Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dear Shri Krishnaji, Pranams. Thanks for your observation. I am also learning a lot from seniors. Thank you. with best regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 12:05 PM Dear Balasubramaniam, In my opinion, retrograde planets could cause some delays but they may not deny. The new chart given by you also has many features indicating the delay: - 7L Mercury and Jupiter are retrograde - Venus is in gandantha - 7L in Navamsha, Mars s debiltated - D9 lagna is in RKA I feel that the native would get married during Moon-Moon-Rahu or Moon-Rahu. Please note that both these planets are exalted in navamsha and occpy navamsha lagna. Regards, Krishna ____________ _________ _________ __ Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Tuesday, 25 August, 2009 3:57:44 PM Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear Shri Gopiji, Pranams. You have given another different angle for the denial of marriage in the case of this native. Madam Smt Neelamji had given exhaustive reasoning for such a situation. Shri Krishnaji and Shri CSRji and others had also seen the deficiency.Regardin g the denial of marriage, I have a hunch if the retrograde planets are contributing their might to such an impasse. In practice we see the retro planets posited in the Kutumba Sathan, Kalathrastan, the 7th lord becomes retrograde, Kalathrakaraka becomes retrograde, the impact will be more.( It is my humble opinion as a beginner in the science). Please see the following chart: DOB: 1/3/1980: POB: Long: 77* N44 and Lat : 11*E 21 TOB: 2.00 AM. The native is of Dhanur Lagna. Sun, MeR and Ketu are in Aquarius. Moon, JuR, MaR and Rahu are in Leo. Venus is in Pisces in Revathy pada4. SaR is in Virgo. In Navamsa, Sun and Venus are in Pisces. Moon and Rahu and the Ascendant are in Taurus. MeR is in Gemini. MaR and JuR are in Cancer. SaR is in Capricorn. Ketu is in Scorpio. Primarily, the birth is on an Lunar Eclipse day. The 7th lord Mercury is retro and combust.Mars( retro) and Jupiter Retro aspects the 7th lord. 9th lord Sun is joined by Ketu. Venus is vargothama in exaltation. But is in Mercury's star Revathy 4th Pada. Venus is being aspected by Retro Saturn and Retro Mars. In Navamsa also Venus is aspected by Retro Saturn. In Navamsa Lagna Rishaba ,Rahu joined Moon. Mercury Retro is in 2nd house. The running Mahadasa is SunMD/Venus AD till 25/2/2010. The native is interested in marriage but it is yet to happen. The planets in Navamsa are curiously placed. But will it confer the marriage to this native? It is a moot point even if the marriage takes place, will it last? The learned may give their opinion. with regards, S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Mon, 24/8/09, gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 > wrote: gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 > Re: Denial of Marriage? Monday, 24 August, 2009, 9:12 PM Dear Balasubramaniam ji, a few more observations on this chart. Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as well,debilitated and in PKY. Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as well. 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in D9. DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with Rahu. I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. Love and regards, gopi. n , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 > wrote: > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded result and he stoutly refused to marry. > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat 11* N 39. > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > with regards > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L Mars in Navamsha. > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer and Libra. > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an interesting twist here.) > > > > Male > > 1710 hours > > 2nd August 1954 > > 78E41; 10N49 > > Zone 5:30 > > DST:0 > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > You wrote: > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and evaluate if > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not the most > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over it. It could > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to identify > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So far, all > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show the > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying to gather > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial marriage > > is one of them. > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical combination. > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, //Rashi in which 7H/7L or venus are > placed should not be in barren rashis, it is said.// you are right. //lagna in virgo should not be a bachelor producing factor.// kanya(virgo)means bachelor,(yet2marry)in that sense i said so and 4example my lagna is also virgo and i am a bachelor at 55yrs.Kanya rasi rising in lagna may not have inclination to marry hence the sages might have called it so.But other things have to support it. .It is not exclusively a bachelor producing factor as you said. //If Lagna nakshatra lord is 12L, how does it deny marriage or if 7L is in nakshatra of 11L, it should rather promote marriage, isn't it?// 12th house/lord is dustana 4lagna and 11thH/L along with3,6,8H/L are suposed to be bad.In that sense only i have taken them here.But 7th and 11th are kama trikonas and hence they may promote marriage as well. Regards, gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Gopi ji, > > Thanks for additional points on the previous chart. > > //Lagna is virgo (bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th > lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as > well// > > I am sorry, this point is not clear. Rashi in which 7H/7L or venus are > placed should not be in barren rashis, it is said. But lagna in virgo should > not be a bachelor producing factor. > If Lagna nakshatra lord is 12L, how does it deny marriage or if 7L is in > nakshatra of 11L, it should rather promote marriage, isn't it? > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2009/8/24 gopi_b927 gopi_b927 > > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaniam ji, > > > > a few more observations on this chart. > > > > Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th > > lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as > > well,debilitated and in PKY. > > > > Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted > > by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as > > well. > > > > 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in > > D9. > > > > DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. > > > > Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. > > > > upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with > > Rahu. > > > > I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > n <%40>, > > Balasubramaniam > > > > Ramachandran balsu46@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > > > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old > > who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded > > result and he stoutly refused to marry. > > > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat > > 11* N 39. > > > > > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with > > Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in > > 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. > > Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is > > conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by > > 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > > > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > > > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai > > Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > > > > > with regards > > > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote: > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ > > > > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > > <%40> > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport > > here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L > > Mars in Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And > > Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn > > has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer > > and Libra. > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of > > charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > > > > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > > > > > > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but > > likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. > > Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary > > retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an > > interesting twist here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Male > > > > > > 1710 hours > > > > > > 2nd August 1954 > > > > > > 78E41; 10N49 > > > > > > Zone 5:30 > > > > > > DST:0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and > > evaluate if > > > > > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not > > the most > > > > > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over > > it. It could > > > > > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to > > identify > > > > > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So > > far, all > > > > > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show > > the > > > > > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying > > to gather > > > > > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > > marriage > > > > > > is one of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > > combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dear Balasubramaniam ji, I have observed in many charts retro planets give troubles in general.The more retro planets the more troubles. 7th lord though retro in U/P/L AND IN 3RD FROM LAGNA CAN NOT DENY MARRIAGE BUT SATURN'S ASP ON 7TH HOUSE DEFINITELY DELAYS. U/L/L HIMSELF IS SATURN AND HENCE THE DELAY. 7TH LORD IN THE NAKSHATRA OF JUPITER,A MARRIAGE MAKER, THE LAGNA AND 4TH LORD IN 9TH ASPG 7TH LORD IN UPAPADA MARRIAGE WILL DEFINITELY TAKES PLACE. Navamsa gives a better clue with gurumangal yoga in 3rd house and 7th lord of Rasi in 2nd house of family aspected and also blessed by saturn YK4D9.7/12th lord with exal 11th lord in the amsa of moon in3rd may give marriage in moon's period.But there can be an element of surprise since jupiter is also the 8th lord of surprises!!... Love and regards, gopi. , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > > Dear Shri Gopiji, > Pranams. You have given another different angle for the denial of marriage in the case of this native. Madam Smt Neelamji had given exhaustive reasoning for such a situation. Shri Krishnaji and Shri CSRji and others had also seen the deficiency.Regarding the denial of marriage, I have a hunch if the retrograde planets are contributing their might to such an impasse. In practice we see the retro planets posited in the Kutumba Sathan, Kalathrastan, the 7th lord becomes retrograde, Kalathrakaraka becomes retrograde, the impact will be more.( It is my humble opinion as a beginner in the science). > Please see the following chart: DOB: 1/3/1980: POB: Long: 77* N44 and Lat : 11*E 21 > TOB: 2.00 AM. > The native is of Dhanur Lagna. Sun, MeR and Ketu are in Aquarius. Moon, JuR, MaR and Rahu are in Leo. Venus is in Pisces in Revathy pada4. SaR is in Virgo. > > In Navamsa, Sun and Venus are in Pisces. Moon and Rahu and the Ascendant are in Taurus. MeR is in Gemini. MaR and JuR are in Cancer. SaR is in Capricorn. Ketu is in Scorpio. > > Primarily, the birth is on an Lunar Eclipse day. The 7th lord Mercury is retro and combust.Mars(retro) and Jupiter Retro aspects the 7th lord. 9th lord Sun is joined by Ketu. Venus is vargothama in exaltation. But is in Mercury's star Revathy 4th Pada. Venus is being aspected by Retro Saturn and Retro Mars. In Navamsa also Venus is aspected by Retro Saturn. In Navamsa Lagna Rishaba ,Rahu joined Moon. Mercury Retro is in 2nd house. > > The running Mahadasa is SunMD/Venus AD till 25/2/2010. > > The native is interested in marriage but it is yet to happen. The planets in Navamsa are curiously placed. But will it confer the marriage to this native? > It is a moot point even if the marriage takes place, will it last? > The learned may give their opinion. > with regards, > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 24/8/09, gopi_b927 gopi_b927 wrote: > > gopi_b927 gopi_b927 > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 24 August, 2009, 9:12 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaniam ji, > > > > a few more observations on this chart. > > > > Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th > > lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as > > well,debilitated and in PKY. > > > > Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted > > by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as > > well. > > > > 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in > > D9. > > > > DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. > > > > Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. > > > > upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with > > Rahu. > > > > I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > n , Balasubramaniam > > Ramachandran balsu46@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > > > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old > > who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded > > result and he stoutly refused to marry. > > > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat > > 11* N 39. > > > > > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with > > Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in > > 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. > > Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is > > conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by > > 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > > > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > > > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai > > Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > > > > > with regards > > > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... > > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport > > here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L > > Mars in Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And > > Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn > > has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer > > and Libra. > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of > > charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > > > > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > > > > > > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but > > likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. > > Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary > > retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an > > interesting twist here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Male > > > > > > 1710 hours > > > > > > 2nd August 1954 > > > > > > 78E41; 10N49 > > > > > > Zone 5:30 > > > > > > DST:0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and > > evaluate if > > > > > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not > > the most > > > > > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over > > it. It could > > > > > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to > > identify > > > > > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So > > far, all > > > > > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show > > the > > > > > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying > > to gather > > > > > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > > marriage > > > > > > is one of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > > combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Dear Shri Gopiji, Pranams. Thank you for the mail. It is seen that the retro planets not only delay the marriages but sometimes they give multiple marriages. Nowadays we see youngsters make impulsive decisions on marriages but finally end up with the breakages of marriage.In some of such cases I had seen only Retro grade planets causing the deficiency. It only tends to come to a conclusion that the retro status of the grahas also tend to give multiple marriages. In several charts the retro planets either posit in the 2nd house or aspect the second house highly afflicting the Kututmbha sthan. Perhaps there may be other combo of planets which give such a situation. In this chart as seniors held the 7th lords have not been weakened and the 2H were also not afflicted. In that way, position clearly shows the delay and not the denial. Thanking you for the mail With best regards S.R.Balasubramaniam --- On Wed, 26/8/09, gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 wrote: gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 Re: Denial of Marriage? Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 7:44 PM Dear Balasubramaniam ji, I have observed in many charts retro planets give troubles in general.The more retro planets the more troubles. 7th lord though retro in U/P/L AND IN 3RD FROM LAGNA CAN NOT DENY MARRIAGE BUT SATURN'S ASP ON 7TH HOUSE DEFINITELY DELAYS. U/L/L HIMSELF IS SATURN AND HENCE THE DELAY. 7TH LORD IN THE NAKSHATRA OF JUPITER,A MARRIAGE MAKER, THE LAGNA AND 4TH LORD IN 9TH ASPG 7TH LORD IN UPAPADA MARRIAGE WILL DEFINITELY TAKES PLACE. Navamsa gives a better clue with gurumangal yoga in 3rd house and 7th lord of Rasi in 2nd house of family aspected and also blessed by saturn YK4D9.7/12th lord with exal 11th lord in the amsa of moon in3rd may give marriage in moon's period.But there can be an element of surprise since jupiter is also the 8th lord of surprises!!. .. Love and regards, gopi. , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 > wrote: > > Dear Shri Gopiji, > Pranams. You have given another different angle for the denial of marriage in the case of this native. Madam Smt Neelamji had given exhaustive reasoning for such a situation. Shri Krishnaji and Shri CSRji and others had also seen the deficiency.Regardin g the denial of marriage, I have a hunch if the retrograde planets are contributing their might to such an impasse. In practice we see the retro planets posited in the Kutumba Sathan, Kalathrastan, the 7th lord becomes retrograde, Kalathrakaraka becomes retrograde, the impact will be more.( It is my humble opinion as a beginner in the science). > Please see the following chart: DOB: 1/3/1980: POB: Long: 77* N44 and Lat : 11*E 21 > TOB: 2.00 AM. > The native is of Dhanur Lagna. Sun, MeR and Ketu are in Aquarius. Moon, JuR, MaR and Rahu are in Leo. Venus is in Pisces in Revathy pada4. SaR is in Virgo. > > In Navamsa, Sun and Venus are in Pisces. Moon and Rahu and the Ascendant are in Taurus. MeR is in Gemini. MaR and JuR are in Cancer. SaR is in Capricorn. Ketu is in Scorpio. > > Primarily, the birth is on an Lunar Eclipse day. The 7th lord Mercury is retro and combust.Mars( retro) and Jupiter Retro aspects the 7th lord.. 9th lord Sun is joined by Ketu. Venus is vargothama in exaltation. But is in Mercury's star Revathy 4th Pada. Venus is being aspected by Retro Saturn and Retro Mars. In Navamsa also Venus is aspected by Retro Saturn. In Navamsa Lagna Rishaba ,Rahu joined Moon. Mercury Retro is in 2nd house. > > The running Mahadasa is SunMD/Venus AD till 25/2/2010. > > The native is interested in marriage but it is yet to happen. The planets in Navamsa are curiously placed. But will it confer the marriage to this native? > It is a moot point even if the marriage takes place, will it last? > The learned may give their opinion. > with regards, > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > --- On Mon, 24/8/09, gopi_b927 gopi_b927@.. . wrote: > > gopi_b927 gopi_b927@.. . > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > Monday, 24 August, 2009, 9:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaniam ji, > > > > a few more observations on this chart. > > > > Lagna is virgo(bachelor) rising in the nakshatra of 12th lord. & the 7th > > lord ofcourse is aflicted by 11th in the nakshatra of 11th lord as > > well,debilitated and in PKY. > > > > Vargottama Mars as 8th lord aswellas U/L/L in a fixed sign is aflicted > > by saturn from another fixed sign.Mars is aflicting Darakarak navamsa as > > well. > > > > 12th lord of Rasi sun in lagna in mutual aspect with saturn in 7th in > > D9. > > > > DK in 12th with varg Mars and ketu in D9. > > > > Both AK AND DK though in mutual asp are aflicted. > > > > upapada in a fixed sign with many influences and 2nd from U/P/L with > > Rahu. > > > > I think the above are all not conducive to marriage. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > n , Balasubramaniam > > Ramachandran balsu46@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear ShriKrishnaji, > > > Pranams. Here is a chart of the native who is 36 years old > > who has not been married. Any amount of persuasion has not yielded > > result and he stoutly refused to marry. > > > DOB: 22/5/1973 : TOB: 2.30PM : POB : SALEM Long 78E10 : Lat > > 11* N 39. > > > > > > The lagna is Virgo. 7th Lord Jup is debilitated in 5th along with > > Moon. Mars 3rd and 8th lord is in 6th. Sun, Sat, Merc , Venus are in > > 9th. LL is combust. All the 4 planets receives aspect of Mars. > > Deibilitated Jupiter also aspects the 9th house. Kalatrakaraka Venus is > > conjunct with 6th lord Sat and 12 th Lord Sun and is being aspected by > > 8th lord Mars. Except Lagna all the planets are between Ketu and Rahu. > > > Is this case also a case of denial of marriage? > > > BTW, the native is a PhD in Therotical Computer and working in Chennai > > Math.. Institute.He is pursuing his post doctoral research. > > > > > > with regards > > > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ ... > > > Re: Denial of Marriage? > > > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > On a quick look, what I notice is that Ketu is playing spoil sport > > here w.r.t marriage. It afflicts 7L Mercury in Rasi. It also afflicts 7L > > Mars in Navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is disposited by Venus, Venus is in Samagama with Moon. And > > Moon is in parivartana with Sun who is aspected by Saturn. Thus, Saturn > > has a good grip on both Venus and Moon. Saturn influences both Cancer > > and Libra. > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be enough evidence for denial Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like some pattern is emerging in our study of a couple of > > charts. Some more such charts could shed more light. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for sharing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, 10 August, 2009 6:56:01 PM > > > > > > Re: Marriage - Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is for you. If this could be of any help to your research. > > > > > > > > > > > > Delay and denial of marriage is being discussed. He is male. Some > > background information for working on the chart. A class one officer of > > Government of India - took voluntary retirement three years ago. Earning > > well now than what he earned during his service. A staunch Hindu but > > likes Christians and Christianity. See the exchange of Moon and Sun. > > Father died and he got employment. Mother died he took voluntary > > retirement. See the Moon and Venus. No marriage so far. (There is an > > interesting twist here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Male > > > > > > 1710 hours > > > > > > 2nd August 1954 > > > > > > 78E41; 10N49 > > > > > > Zone 5:30 > > > > > > DST:0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My intention was to examine similar combination in two charts and > > evaluate if > > > > > > they are giving similar results. If not, in my opinion, that is not > > the most > > > > > > critical combination for the event as other factors could ride over > > it. It could > > > > > > only be a supporting factor. Only with this approach I was able to > > identify > > > > > > clearly the combination for diabetes (for both type-1 and type-2). So > > far, all > > > > > > diabetes charts that I have studied (at least 100 charts so far) show > > the > > > > > > combination that I have listed without a single exception! I am trying > > to gather > > > > > > such a combination for each of the significant events in life, denial > > marriage > > > > > > is one of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that with time, we will be able to spot the most critical > > combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your time and effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This is a very good observation. I have been observing this. A retrograde planet in 2nd house gives multiple marriages. They results would be vary the flavour is very differnt from each other. A person can marry the same girl twice. There is no need he should divorce her and marry once again. This is one kind. I have charts in which the bridegroom marrys a girl in India when the couple move to certain countries, as per the laws prevailing there, he marries again. Here this happens during the dasha of retrograde planets. What I say is not the end. Keep on look at charts, pattern emerges. I married a girl twice within a fortnight. Once I married her according to my choice. Second time I married once again the same girl according to my family customs as per my parents wishes. That is because of a retrograde planet in my second house with seventh lord. >>>>Nowadays we see youngsters make impulsive decisions on marriages but finally end up with the breakages of marriage.In some of such cases I had seen only Retro grade planets causing the deficiency. It only tends to come to a conclusion that the retro status of the grahas also tend to give multiple marriages.>>> C.S. Ravindramani. ============================================================================== Dear Shri Gopiji, Pranams. Thank you for the mail. It is seen that the retro planets not only delay the marriages but sometimes they give multiple marriages. Nowadays we see youngsters make impulsive decisions on marriages but finally end up with the breakages of marriage.In some of such cases I had seen only Retro grade planets causing the deficiency. It only tends to come to a conclusion that the retro status of the grahas also tend to give multiple marriages. In several charts the retro planets either posit in the 2nd house or aspect the second house highly afflicting the Kututmbha sthan. Perhaps there may be other combo of planets which give such a situation. In this chart as seniors held the 7th lords have not been weakened and the 2H were also not afflicted. In that way, position clearly shows the delay and not the denial. Thanking you for the mail > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Certainly. I have also observed this 'repetition' or 'comeback' in charts with a retrograde 7L in 2H. Another variant result, if I may add, is that the native at times goes back to marrying the same person after saying no or remaining in a state of indecisiveness for some period. In the Indian scenario of arranged marriages, often people are over ambitious in the beginning, but go back and agree to an earlier proposal. Regards Neelam 2009/8/27 C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani > > > This is a very good observation. I have been observing this. A retrograde > planet in 2nd house gives multiple marriages. They results would be vary > the flavour is very differnt from each other. A person can marry the same > girl twice. There is no need he should divorce her and marry once again. > This is one kind. I have charts in which the bridegroom marrys a girl in > India when the couple move to certain countries, as per the laws prevailing > there, he marries again. Here this happens during the dasha of retrograde > planets. What I say is not the end. Keep on look at charts, pattern > emerges. > > I married a girl twice within a fortnight. Once I married her according to > my choice. Second time I married once again the same girl according to my > family customs as per my parents wishes. That is because of a retrograde > planet in my second house with seventh lord. > > > >>>>Nowadays we see youngsters make impulsive decisions on marriages but > finally end up with the breakages of marriage.In some of such cases I had > seen only Retro grade planets causing the deficiency. It only tends to come > to a conclusion that the retro status of the grahas also tend to give > multiple marriages.>>> > > C.S. Ravindramani. > > ============================================================================== > > Dear Shri Gopiji, > > Pranams. Thank you for the mail. It is seen that the retro > planets not only delay the marriages but sometimes they give multiple > marriages. Nowadays we see youngsters make impulsive decisions on marriages > but finally end up with the breakages of marriage.In some of such cases I > had seen only Retro grade planets causing the deficiency. It only tends to > come to a conclusion that the retro status of the grahas also tend to give > multiple marriages. In several charts the retro planets either posit in the > 2nd house or aspect the second house highly afflicting the Kututmbha sthan. > Perhaps there may be other combo of planets which give such a situation. > > In this chart as seniors held the 7th lords have not been weakened and the > 2H were also not afflicted. In that way, position clearly shows the delay > and not the denial. > > Thanking you for the mail > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Affliction of the second house is a cause of disturbance in marriage. Most of the multiple marriage combinations in Jataka Tatvam are related to second house. regards, Mouji ________________________________ neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:17:50 AM Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Certainly. I have also observed this 'repetition' or 'comeback' in charts with a retrograde 7L in 2H. Another variant result, if I may add, is that the native at times goes back to marrying the same person after saying no or remaining in a state of indecisiveness for some period. In the Indian scenario of arranged marriages, often people are over ambitious in the beginning, but go back and agree to an earlier proposal. Regards Neelam 2009/8/27 C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > > > This is a very good observation. I have been observing this. A retrograde > planet in 2nd house gives multiple marriages. They results would be vary > the flavour is very differnt from each other. A person can marry the same > girl twice. There is no need he should divorce her and marry once again. > This is one kind. I have charts in which the bridegroom marrys a girl in > India when the couple move to certain countries, as per the laws prevailing > there, he marries again. Here this happens during the dasha of retrograde > planets. What I say is not the end. Keep on look at charts, pattern > emerges. > > I married a girl twice within a fortnight. Once I married her according to > my choice. Second time I married once again the same girl according to my > family customs as per my parents wishes. That is because of a retrograde > planet in my second house with seventh lord. > > > >>>>Nowadays we see youngsters make impulsive decisions on marriages but > finally end up with the breakages of marriage.In some of such cases I had > seen only Retro grade planets causing the deficiency. It only tends to come > to a conclusion that the retro status of the grahas also tend to give > multiple marriages.>> > > > C.S. Ravindramani. > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > > Dear Shri Gopiji, > > Pranams. Thank you for the mail. It is seen that the retro > planets not only delay the marriages but sometimes they give multiple > marriages. Nowadays we see youngsters make impulsive decisions on marriages > but finally end up with the breakages of marriage.In some of such cases I > had seen only Retro grade planets causing the deficiency. It only tends to > come to a conclusion that the retro status of the grahas also tend to give > multiple marriages. In several charts the retro planets either posit in the > 2nd house or aspect the second house highly afflicting the Kututmbha sthan. > Perhaps there may be other combo of planets which give such a situation. > > In this chart as seniors held the 7th lords have not been weakened and the > 2H were also not afflicted. In that way, position clearly shows the delay > and not the denial. > > Thanking you for the mail > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Affliction to 2nd and 12th house tend to create problems in the area of marriage. It is a common knowledge, so far as the retrogression of a plant is concerned, classics clearly say that when Moon is close to Sun it loses its luster and is termed as afflicted or malefic. When a planet very close to the Sun is known as combust and treated as afflicted for certain significations or for certain purposes, due to the close proximity with the Sun since the planet concerned loses its brightness. On the other hand, a planet can be termed as retrograde when they are far away from Sun. Thus logically they are brighter and get strength. If it is not so, retrograde planets cannot be praised by an authority like Mantreshwara, even if the planet is debilitated but being retrograde, the planet is vested with full strength. In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic out rightly. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 >>>>In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic out rightly. >>> Read that " in my opinion, a retrograde planet cannot be termed or treated as malefic. CSR Mani On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramaniwrote: > Affliction to 2nd and 12th house tend to create problems in the area of > marriage. It is a common knowledge, so far as the retrogression of a > plant is concerned, classics clearly say that when Moon is close to Sun it > loses its luster and is termed as afflicted or malefic. When a planet > very close to the Sun is known as combust and treated as afflicted for > certain significations or for certain purposes, due to the close proximity > with the Sun since the planet concerned loses its brightness. > > On the other hand, a planet can be termed as retrograde when they are far > away from Sun. Thus logically they are brighter and get strength. If it > is not so, retrograde planets cannot be praised by an authority like > Mantreshwara, even if the planet is debilitated but being retrograde, the > planet is vested with full strength. > > In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic out > rightly. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Dear friends, This is extremely interesting - Retro planets causing multiple marriages, even if it is for legal reasons to the same girl etc. I have seen 2 separate horoscopes where the 7th house had a retrograde planet. In this first case, Jupiter was Retro in Kumbha and the native had 2 marriages in 2 days to the same girl - one per Hindu custom and one per non-denominational custom to satisfy both sides of the family. Also, note Venus and Sun in Simha (Lagna). In the second case, the Sat is in the 7th in Mesham and is Retro. The first marriage lasted less than a year and in his own words, the marriage was " mistake made in young age " and now he is married again. Here, in the Lagna (Thula), were Venus, Moon and Jup. In both cases, the lagna lords and Venus were in the the first house and aspecting the 7th. And in the second case, since Lagna Lord was Venus, the karaka for marriage, Venus aspected the 7th as Lagna Lord. Finally, I am not sure if this adds to this discussion, but I thought after reading this thread I could follow up with this piece - I realize there was not much said about 7H and more about retro planets in 2H, but could there be more to what I have talked about - i.e. Retro planets in the 7H. Thanks so much. And as always, please pardon me if my doubts are too basic. I am a total novice but very eager to learn. Thanks everybody. Regards, Gautham On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:43 AM, C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramaniwrote: > > > >>>>In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic > out rightly. >>> > > Read that " in my opinion, a retrograde planet cannot be termed or treated > as malefic. > CSR Mani > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, C.S. Ravindramani > <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>>wrote: > > > Affliction to 2nd and 12th house tend to create problems in the area of > > marriage. It is a common knowledge, so far as the retrogression of a > > plant is concerned, classics clearly say that when Moon is close to Sun > it > > loses its luster and is termed as afflicted or malefic. When a planet > > very close to the Sun is known as combust and treated as afflicted for > > certain significations or for certain purposes, due to the close > proximity > > with the Sun since the planet concerned loses its brightness. > > > > On the other hand, a planet can be termed as retrograde when they are far > > away from Sun. Thus logically they are brighter and get strength. If it > > is not so, retrograde planets cannot be praised by an authority like > > Mantreshwara, even if the planet is debilitated but being retrograde, the > > planet is vested with full strength. > > > > In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic > out > > rightly. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Ravindramani, //On the other hand, a planet can be termed as retrograde when they are far away from Sun.// This is not necessarily true. Inferior planets (which orbit around the Sun within the Earth's orbit) Me and Venus can be retrograde and combust. However it is true that superior planets like Mars, Sa, Ju etc cannot be retrograde and combust. So for the inferior planets it is likely that the relative slowing down (velocity) that gives them the strength, while for the superior planets in addition to that velocity factor, what you have mentioned is also true (ie distance from the Sun gives them additional strength). You larger point is well taken and I agree with your assesment that retrograde planets cannot be considered to be malefic, just because of their retrograde motion. Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:31:50 AM Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Affliction to 2nd and 12th house tend to create problems in the area of marriage. It is a common knowledge, so far as the retrogression of a plant is concerned, classics clearly say that when Moon is close to Sun it loses its luster and is termed as afflicted or malefic. When a planet very close to the Sun is known as combust and treated as afflicted for certain significations or for certain purposes, due to the close proximity with the Sun since the planet concerned loses its brightness. On the other hand, a planet can be termed as retrograde when they are far away from Sun. Thus logically they are brighter and get strength. If it is not so, retrograde planets cannot be praised by an authority like Mantreshwara, even if the planet is debilitated but being retrograde, the planet is vested with full strength. In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic out rightly. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Dear Gautham, Retrograde planets do not cause multiple marriages. Please understand the statement made by Shri C.S. Ravindramani, properly and in the right perspective. If that be so, the each year, all these planets are retrograde for around a specific period. Retrograde planets do carry a principle of " repeat actions " as is their specific use in horary astrology. Otherwise, why does a retrograde planet carry " Shakt " awastha. A planet by becoming retrograde does not necessarily become a malefic and that statement of Mr. Ravindramani is true. regards, Mouji ________________________________ Gautham Shankar <gsmkts Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:14:01 PM Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? Dear friends, This is extremely interesting - Retro planets causing multiple marriages, even if it is for legal reasons to the same girl etc. I have seen 2 separate horoscopes where the 7th house had a retrograde planet. In this first case, Jupiter was Retro in Kumbha and the native had 2 marriages in 2 days to the same girl - one per Hindu custom and one per non-denominational custom to satisfy both sides of the family. Also, note Venus and Sun in Simha (Lagna). In the second case, the Sat is in the 7th in Mesham and is Retro. The first marriage lasted less than a year and in his own words, the marriage was " mistake made in young age " and now he is married again. Here, in the Lagna (Thula), were Venus, Moon and Jup. In both cases, the lagna lords and Venus were in the the first house and aspecting the 7th. And in the second case, since Lagna Lord was Venus, the karaka for marriage, Venus aspected the 7th as Lagna Lord. Finally, I am not sure if this adds to this discussion, but I thought after reading this thread I could follow up with this piece - I realize there was not much said about 7H and more about retro planets in 2H, but could there be more to what I have talked about - i.e. Retro planets in the 7H. Thanks so much. And as always, please pardon me if my doubts are too basic. I am a total novice but very eager to learn. Thanks everybody. Regards, Gautham On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:43 AM, C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic > out rightly. >>> > > Read that " in my opinion, a retrograde planet cannot be termed or treated > as malefic. > CSR Mani > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, C.S. Ravindramani > <ravindramani@ gmail.com <ravindramani% 40gmail.com> >wrote: > > > Affliction to 2nd and 12th house tend to create problems in the area of > > marriage. It is a common knowledge, so far as the retrogression of a > > plant is concerned, classics clearly say that when Moon is close to Sun > it > > loses its luster and is termed as afflicted or malefic. When a planet > > very close to the Sun is known as combust and treated as afflicted for > > certain significations or for certain purposes, due to the close > proximity > > with the Sun since the planet concerned loses its brightness. > > > > On the other hand, a planet can be termed as retrograde when they are far > > away from Sun. Thus logically they are brighter and get strength. If it > > is not so, retrograde planets cannot be praised by an authority like > > Mantreshwara, even if the planet is debilitated but being retrograde, the > > planet is vested with full strength. > > > > In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic > out > > rightly. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Dear Manojji, Thank you for your email - I understand better now. I obviously got carried away trying to understand. Again, thanks for explaining. Gautham On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > > Dear Gautham, > > Retrograde planets do not cause multiple marriages. Please understand the > statement made by Shri C.S. Ravindramani, properly and in the right > perspective. > > If that be so, the each year, all these planets are retrograde for around a > specific period. Retrograde planets do carry a principle of " repeat actions " > as is their specific use in horary astrology. Otherwise, why does a > retrograde planet carry " Shakt " awastha. A planet by becoming retrograde > does not necessarily become a malefic and that statement of Mr. Ravindramani > is true. > > regards, > > Mouji > > ________________________________ > Gautham Shankar <gsmkts <gsmkts%40gmail.com>> > <%40> > Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:14:01 PM > Re: Re: Denial of Marriage? > > > Dear friends, > This is extremely interesting - Retro planets causing multiple marriages, > even if it is for legal reasons to the same girl etc. > I have seen 2 separate horoscopes where the 7th house had a retrograde > planet. > > In this first case, Jupiter was Retro in Kumbha and the native had 2 > marriages in 2 days to the same girl - one per Hindu custom and one per > non-denominational custom to satisfy both sides of the family. Also, note > Venus and Sun in Simha (Lagna). > > In the second case, the Sat is in the 7th in Mesham and is Retro. The first > marriage lasted less than a year and in his own words, the marriage was > " mistake made in young age " and now he is married again. Here, in the Lagna > (Thula), were Venus, Moon and Jup. > > In both cases, the lagna lords and Venus were in the the first house and > aspecting the 7th. And in the second case, since Lagna Lord was Venus, the > karaka for marriage, Venus aspected the 7th as Lagna Lord. > > Finally, I am not sure if this adds to this discussion, but I thought after > reading this thread I could follow up with this piece - I realize there was > not much said about 7H and more about retro planets in 2H, but could there > be more to what I have talked about - i.e. Retro planets in the 7H. > > Thanks so much. And as always, please pardon me if my doubts are too basic. > I am a total novice but very eager to learn. Thanks everybody. > Regards, > Gautham > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:43 AM, C.S. Ravindramani > <ravindramani@ gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as > malefic > > out rightly. >>> > > > > Read that " in my opinion, a retrograde planet cannot be termed or treated > > as malefic. > > CSR Mani > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, C.S. Ravindramani > > <ravindramani@ gmail.com <ravindramani% 40gmail.com> >wrote: > > > > > Affliction to 2nd and 12th house tend to create problems in the area of > > > marriage. It is a common knowledge, so far as the retrogression of a > > > plant is concerned, classics clearly say that when Moon is close to Sun > > it > > > loses its luster and is termed as afflicted or malefic. When a planet > > > very close to the Sun is known as combust and treated as afflicted for > > > certain significations or for certain purposes, due to the close > > proximity > > > with the Sun since the planet concerned loses its brightness. > > > > > > On the other hand, a planet can be termed as retrograde when they are > far > > > away from Sun. Thus logically they are brighter and get strength. If it > > > is not so, retrograde planets cannot be praised by an authority like > > > Mantreshwara, even if the planet is debilitated but being retrograde, > the > > > planet is vested with full strength. > > > > > > In my opinion, a retrograde planet can be termed or treated as malefic > > out > > > rightly. > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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