Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 ||HARE RMA KRSHNA|| Taking 22:04, may 20 1980,delhi as birth data he is in mars dasha. May be it is the teriible curse of jupiter in 9th house,presently running moola dasha of Rahu with sookshma of rahu from 27 feb 2009 to march 20-2009 and of saturn from march 20-2009 to april 12-2009. 9th house also rules courts . May be. with regards , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Namaste Members > > > While surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > 13tyh May 1980 > New Delhi > 10:04 PM > > > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Namaste. I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running MA MA dasa.Regards Yogeshwari.R.rajarshi14 <rajarshi14 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM[Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Namaste Members While surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. 13tyh May 1980 New Delhi 10:04 PM If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events. -Regards Rajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Dear Yogi I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. It is as follows. 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong information initially. March 13, 1980Time: 10:04:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" New Delhi, IndiaAltitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - PhalgunaTithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left)Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left)Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left)Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left)Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg)Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) Sunrise: 6:37:11 amSunset: 6:24:39 pmJanma Ghatis: 38.6174 Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to change to Rahu/Mars. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11 wrote: Yogi R <upapada11Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM Namaste. I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running MA MA dasa.Regards Yogeshwari.R. rajarshi14 <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM[Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Namaste MembersWhile surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart.13tyh May 1980New Delhi10:04 PMIf this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events.-RegardsRajarshi Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| Dear Rajarshi, As a student I think the following may be indicative of the problem: Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and the pain involved may be severe. A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal allegations as well as badhaka effects. his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. with regards , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Dear Yogi > > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > It is as follows. > > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong information initially. > > Date: March 13, 1980 > Time: 10:04:00 pm > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > New Delhi, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to change to Rahu/Mars. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11 wrote: > > > Yogi R <upapada11 > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > Namaste. > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running MA MA dasa. > > Regards > Yogeshwari.R. > > > > > > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > > Namaste Members > > While surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > 13tyh May 1980 > New Delhi > 10:04 PM > > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Namaste Vikasji Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Merc AD is on indeed. He has a severe curse of mercury and a heavy load of badhaks in 11th. Also 11 being relatives too. Currentlty shani is in transit in the same sign and the nodal axis is on his AL. Moon is digbali from lagna, so his mother is supporting him. Fifth from lagna is supporters which has sun ketu and mercury. This may indicate, fanatical supporter (ketu) as well as young people (mercury). Mangal being retro and in badhaka can indicate long drwan battles. Also sixth lord jup retro in 11th, can be a victim of abhichara as well. However, rahu being there can indicate acquiring lots of wealth at soem point. During the time of elections, he will be under shani/merc/moon. Moon is favourable. He may win. Once shani is out of leo, into virgo, i think he will rise politically.Also jup AD will start. This jup is also in 9th house from lagna in d10. Also that will be 3rd house from AL, may cause him to fight back. But 11th house needs lots of remedies.-Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 31/3/09, vikas <vikasjeer wrote: vikas <vikasjeerRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 12:17 AM ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||Dear Rajarshi ji,lagna lord in 7th house may require application of dwi-saptati dasha instead of regular vimsottari dasha . that means he is running saturn mahadasha- mercury antara and mercury is 9th lord.- rest may be hidden in Narayan dasha.with regards, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> Namaste> > In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court cases.> > But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand why in moon AD.> > Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I cant find a jyotish reason from his chart.> > Please shed some more light on this.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, vikas <vikasjeer@. ..> wrote:> > > vikas <vikasjeer@. ..>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM> > > > > > > ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||> Dear Rajarshi,> As a student I think the following may be indicative of the problem:> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis.> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and the pain involved may be severe.> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal allegations as well as badhaka effects.> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the reason for his fundamentalist image thus created.> with regards> > , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Yogi> > > > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > > > It is as follows.> > > > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong information initially. > > > > March 13, 1980> > Time: 10:04:00 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"> > New Delhi, India> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left)> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left)> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left)> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg)> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38> > > > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to change to Rahu/Mars.> > > > -Regards> > Rajarshi> > > > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > > > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..>> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > > > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running MA MA dasa.> > > > Regards > > Yogeshwari.R.> > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in>> > > > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > > > > > > > Namaste Members> > > > While surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart.> > > > 13tyh May 1980> > New Delhi> > 10:04 PM> > > > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events.> > > > -Regards> > Rajarshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Namaste,Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is closely conjunct 6L Jupiter.If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun.Many planets are weak in this chart:- Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi- Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and hence they are also weak- Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama)Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him.Regards,Krishna--- On Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM Namaste In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court cases. But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand why in moon AD. Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. Please shed some more light on this. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 30/3/09, vikas <vikasjeer > wrote: vikas <vikasjeer >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun GandhiMonday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||Dear Rajarshi,As a student I think the following may be indicative of the problem:Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis.his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and the pain involved may be severe.A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal allegations as well as badhaka effects.his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the reason for his fundamentalist image thus created.with regards@ . com, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Yogi> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > It is as follows.> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong information initially. > > March 13, 1980> Time: 10:04:00 pm> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"> New Delhi, India> Altitude: 0.00 meters> Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna> Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left)> Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)> Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left)> Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left)> Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left)> Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)> Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg)> Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> Sunrise: 6:37:11 am> Sunset: 6:24:39 pm> Janma Ghatis: 38.6174> Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13> Sidereal Time: 9:08:38> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to change to Rahu/Mars.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@. ..> wrote:> > > Yogi R <upapada11@. ..>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM> > > > > > > > > Namaste. > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running MA MA dasa.> > Regards > Yogeshwari.R.> > > > > > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in>> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM> [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > > > Namaste Members> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart.> > 13tyh May 1980> New Delhi> 10:04 PM> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Namaste Visti Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. But, will not the dwisaptati dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord being in 7th? How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar.Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu showing the current predicament. Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make that situation horrible for one.Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different story but these are the accusations.The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga).Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the utmost minimal problems with this.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: Namaste,Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is closely conjunct 6L Jupiter.If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun.Many planets are weak in this chart:- Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi- Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and hence they are also weak- Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama)Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him.Regards,Krishna--- On Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun GandhiMonday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM Namaste In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court cases. But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand why in moon AD. Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. Please shed some more light on this. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 30/3/09, vikas <vikasjeer > wrote: vikas <vikasjeer >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun GandhiMonday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||Dear Rajarshi,As a student I think the following may be indicative of the problem:Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis.his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and the pain involved may be severe.A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal allegations as well as badhaka effects.his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the reason for his fundamentalist image thus created.with regards, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Yogi> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > It is as follows.> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong information initially. > > March 13, 1980> Time: 10:04:00 pm> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"> New Delhi, India> Altitude: 0.00 meters> Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna> Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left)> Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)> Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left)> Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left)> Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left)> Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)> Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg)> Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> Sunrise: 6:37:11 am> Sunset: 6:24:39 pm> Janma Ghatis: 38.6174> Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13> Sidereal Time: 9:08:38> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to change to Rahu/Mars.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@. ..> wrote:> > > Yogi R <upapada11@. ..>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM> > > > > > > > > Namaste. > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running MA MA dasa.> > Regards > Yogeshwari.R.> > > > > > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in>> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM> [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > > > Namaste Members> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart.> > 13tyh May 1980> New Delhi> 10:04 PM> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for all life events. To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his opportunities in any upcoming elections. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Namaste Visti  Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas.  But, will not the dwisaptati dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord being in 7th?  How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna?  -Regards  Rajarshi   The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu showing the current predicament. Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make that situation horrible for one. Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different story but these are the accusations. The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the utmost minimal problems with this. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: Namaste, Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. Many planets are weak in this chart: - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and hence they are also weak - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. Regards, Krishna --- On Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM Namaste  In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court cases.  But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand why in moon AD.  Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I cant find a jyotish reason from his chart.  Please shed some more light on this.  -Regards  Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Mon, 30/3/09, vikas <vikasjeer (AT) (DOT) com> wrote: vikas <vikasjeer (AT) (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| Dear Rajarshi, As a student I think the following may be indicative of the problem: Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and the pain involved may be severe. A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal allegations as well as badhaka effects. his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. with regards , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Yogi >  > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. >  > It is as follows. >  > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong information initially. >  > Date:         March 13, 1980 > Time:         10:04:00 pm > Time Zone:    5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place:        77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" >               New Delhi, India > Altitude:     0.00 meters > Lunar Yr-Mo:  Siddarthi - Phalguna > Tithi:        Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > Nakshatra:    Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > Yoga:         Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > Karana:       Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > Hora Lord:    Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > Kaala Lord:   Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > Sunrise:      6:37:11 am > Sunset:       6:24:39 pm > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > Ayanamsa:     23-34-46.13 > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to change to Rahu/Mars. >  > -Regards >  Rajarshi > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@. ...> wrote: > > > Yogi R <upapada11@. ...> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > > > > > > > > Namaste. >  I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running MA MA dasa. > > Regards > Yogeshwari.R. > > > > > > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > > Namaste Members > > While surfing the internet I found a blog which mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > 13tyh May 1980 > New Delhi > 10:04 PM > > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't figure out why this sudden events. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| Respected guru visti, Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. indebted to you as always. with endless regards vikas , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > all life events. > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > Hope this helps. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > being in 7th? > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > /* > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > */ > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti/* wrote: > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > showing the current predicament. > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > >> Namaste, > >> > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > >> > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > >> > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > >> > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > >> hence they are also weak > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > >> > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Krishna > >> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>/* > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > >> > >> Namaste > >> > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > >> cases. > >> > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > >> why in moon AD. > >> > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > >> > >> Please shed some more light on this. > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> /* > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> */ > >> > >> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer >/* wrote: > >> > >> > >> vikas <vikasjeer > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > >> > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > >> Dear Rajarshi, > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > >> the problem: > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > >> the pain involved may be severe. > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > >> with regards > >> > >> > >> <http://in.mc85.mail./mc/compose?to=%40>, > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > >> > > >> > Dear Yogi > >> > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > >> > > >> > It is as follows. > >> > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > >> information initially. > >> > > >> > March 13, 1980 > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > >> > New Delhi, India > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > >> > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > >> > > >> > -Regards > >> > Rajarshi > >> > > >> > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > >> > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Namaste. > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > >> MA MA dasa. > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > >> > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Namaste Members > >> > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > >> > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > >> > New Delhi > >> > 10:04 PM > >> > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > >> figure out why this sudden events. > >> > > >> > -Regards > >> > Rajarshi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > >> http://messenger. / invite/ > >> <http://messenger./invite/> > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------ > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Om Gurave Namah, Dear Visti, I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well. Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous. Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna), who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment. Regards Goonatilak --- In , " vikas " <vikasjeer wrote: > > ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > Respected guru visti, > Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. > when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? > another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. > > indebted to you as always. > > with endless regards > vikas > , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events. > > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > > Hope this helps. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti@ > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th? > > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > > > -Regards > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > > showing the current predicament. > > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > > >> Namaste, > > >> > > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > > >> > > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > > >> > > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > > >> > > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > > >> hence they are also weak > > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > > >> > > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Krishna > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>/* > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > > >> > > >> Namaste > > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > > >> cases. > > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > > >> why in moon AD. > > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this. > > >> > > >> -Regards > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer >/* wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> vikas <vikasjeer > > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > > >> > > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > > >> Dear Rajarshi, > > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > > >> the problem: > > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > > >> the pain involved may be severe. > > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > > >> with regards > > >> > > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85.mail./mc/compose?to=%40>, > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Yogi > > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > >> > > > >> > It is as follows. > > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > > >> information initially. > > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980 > > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > >> > New Delhi, India > > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > >> > > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > >> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> > > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste. > > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > > >> MA MA dasa. > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste Members > > >> > > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > >> > > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > > >> > New Delhi > > >> > 10:04 PM > > >> > > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > > >> figure out why this sudden events. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Dear Vistiji and all,Namaskar to you,Here we are considering 13-03-1980 22:04 Hrs delhi right ? then why should we take VD from Lagna? As moon is in kendra and 2nd and 8th from it has lot of planets so moon lagna is stronger than the lagna so we should consider VD from moon.secondly is retro of saturn in 9th from moon making him a beliver of Dharma ?Does rahu in 2nd from AL send him to prision ?Retro sat a yogakaraka for tula lagna having good astakavarga scores in 10th and 11th from it will makes him a mass leader who is a hardliner?and finally his AL and UL both falling in cancer will makes him unmarried for long?please answer my queries.regardsprotimesh--- On Tue, 3/31/09, premgoona <premgoona wrote:premgoona <premgoonaRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:26 PM Om Gurave Namah, Dear Visti, I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well. Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous. Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna) , who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment. Regards Goonatilak --- In , "vikas" <vikasjeer@. ..> wrote: > > ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > Respected guru visti, > Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. > when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? > another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. > > indebted to you as always. > > with endless regards > vikas > , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events. > > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > > Hope this helps. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda. com > > @: visti@ > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th? > > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > > > -Regards > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > > showing the current predicament. > > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > > >> Namaste, > > >> > > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > > >> > > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > > >> > > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > > >> > > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > > >> hence they are also weak > > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > > >> > > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Krishna > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14@ . co.in>/* > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > > >> > > >> Namaste > > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > > >> cases. > > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > > >> why in moon AD. > > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this. > > >> > > >> -Regards > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer>/* wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> vikas <vikasjeer > > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > > >> > > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > > >> Dear Rajarshi, > > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > > >> the problem: > > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > > >> the pain involved may be severe. > > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > > >> with regards > > >> > > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>, > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Yogi > > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > >> > > > >> > It is as follows. > > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > > >> information initially. > > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980 > > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > >> > New Delhi, India > > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > >> > > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > >> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com> > > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste. > > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > > >> MA MA dasa. > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste Members > > >> > > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > >> > > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > > >> > New Delhi > > >> > 10:04 PM > > >> > > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > > >> figure out why this sudden events. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Protimesh, Namaskar. Out of Jupiter, Mercury and the Nakshatra lords, Lagna is aspected by all whilst Moon is only associated with Jupiter and the nakshatresha, hence Lagna becomes stronger. His personal beliefs reg. dharma and Guru are seen from the ninth house from Navamsa Lagna. If Pisces Navamsa is correct then Ketu should make him a blind follower of dharma. I've not heard of Rahu in 2nd from AL sending one to prison. Astakavarga can show who is supporting a leader, but not that he is a leader. Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka joined shows Rajyasambandha Yoga and this being with Rahu indicates political Raja. With lord of Navamsa Lagna joined Karakamsa this confirms birth in a royal family and ascension to powerful positions. The nature of his beliefs is seen from the Bhratrikaraka which is Moon in a Saturnian sign and having passed Krishna Ekadashi (quite harsh like a strict mother). The Graha Arudha of Lagnesh-Venus is also in Capricorn confirming how people see his actions. The Yuti of AL & UL does not make him unmarried as neither are strongly associated with Saturn besides the placement of the lord in Capricorn. Instead with Venus in Digbala from AL I am sure he has a good following of ladies around him. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Protimesh Gupta skrev: Dear Vistiji and all, Namaskar to you, Here we are considering 13-03-1980 22:04 Hrs delhi right ? then why should we take VD from Lagna? As moon is in kendra and 2nd and 8th from it has lot of planets so moon lagna is stronger than the lagna so we should consider VD from moon. secondly is retro of saturn in 9th from moon making him a beliver of Dharma ? Does rahu in 2nd from AL send him to prision ? Retro sat a yogakaraka for tula lagna having good astakavarga scores in 10th and 11th from it will makes him a mass leader who is a hardliner? and finally his AL and UL both falling in cancer will makes him unmarried for long? please answer my queries. regards protimesh --- On Tue, 3/31/09, premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:26 PM Om Gurave Namah, Dear Visti, I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well. Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous. Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna) , who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment. Regards Goonatilak --- In @ . com, "vikas" <vikasjeer@. ..> wrote: > > ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > Respected guru visti, > Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. > when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? > another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. > > indebted to you as always. > > with endless regards > vikas > @ . com, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events. > > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > > Hope this helps. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda. com > > @: visti@ > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th? > > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > > > -Regards > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > @ . com > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > > showing the current predicament. > > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > > >> Namaste, > > >> > > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > > >> > > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > > >> > > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > > >> > > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > > >> hence they are also weak > > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > > >> > > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Krishna > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14@ . co.in>/* > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > > >> > > >> Namaste > > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > > >> cases. > > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > > >> why in moon AD. > > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this. > > >> > > >> -Regards > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer@ . com>/* wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> vikas <vikasjeer > > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > > >> > > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > > >> Dear Rajarshi, > > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > > >> the problem: > > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > > >> the pain involved may be severe. > > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > > >> with regards > > >> > > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>, > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Yogi > > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > >> > > > >> > It is as follows. > > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > > >> information initially. > > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980 > > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > >> > New Delhi, India > > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > >> > > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > >> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com> > > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste. > > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > > >> MA MA dasa. > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste Members > > >> > > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > >> > > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > > >> > New Delhi > > >> > 10:04 PM > > >> > > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > > >> figure out why this sudden events. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Vikas, Namaskar. Vimshottari Dasa always works very well with public figures because the Devata is Brhaspati and will always be in conformity with the principles of society, and especially the one calculated from the Moon matches best the trends of the public. Yet, if Tara dasa is applicable then vimshottari will be quite difficult to read. Vimshottari from the Moon may not match the personal experience of the native if the Lagna is stronger. The exceptions to check to find the stronger is given in the book 'Udu Dasa' by Sanjay Rath. One thing that the Vimshottari from Moon lacks in his chart is how this entire thing got activated during election time, and also how this is really some political motive of another competing party. - Saturn is causing Vipareet Raja Yoga as its the Yogakaraka in the twelfth house, and as its also well placed from the AL it shows demeaning the opponents is the theme of the day. Venus Antaradasa is in dusthana from the Mahadasa (bad experience) and is joined the Shatrupada (a6-enemy rises). To confirm the Atma-bandhana Venus is Paraspara Karaka to Moon in the Rasi. Note it was the same Antaradasa of the Moon in the 'other vimshottari' and both Venus and Moon associate with the 12th from Karakamsa showing that this is really the anger of the Ishta Devata which is manifesting. Now see how the Antaradasa-Venus in Navamsa is in sixth from Lagna (enemies and torment arising) and in third from Karakamsa (on account of troubling others - possibly a lady). Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti vikas skrev: ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| Respected guru visti, Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. indebted to you as always. with endless regards vikas , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > all life events. > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > Hope this helps. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > being in 7th? > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > /* > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > */ > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti/* wrote: > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > showing the current predicament. > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > >> Namaste, > >> > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > >> > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > >> > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > >> > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > >> hence they are also weak > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > >> > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Krishna > >> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>/* > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > >> > >> Namaste > >> > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > >> cases. > >> > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > >> why in moon AD. > >> > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > >> > >> Please shed some more light on this. > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> /* > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> */ > >> > >> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer (AT) (DOT) com>/* wrote: > >> > >> > >> vikas <vikasjeer > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > >> > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > >> Dear Rajarshi, > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > >> the problem: > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > >> the pain involved may be severe. > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > >> with regards > >> > >> > >> <http://in.mc85.mail./mc/compose?to=%40>, > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > >> > > >> > Dear Yogi > >> > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > >> > > >> > It is as follows. > >> > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > >> information initially. > >> > > >> > March 13, 1980 > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > >> > New Delhi, India > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > >> > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > >> > > >> > -Regards > >> > Rajarshi > >> > > >> > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > >> > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Namaste. > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > >> MA MA dasa. > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > >> > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Namaste Members > >> > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > >> > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > >> > New Delhi > >> > 10:04 PM > >> > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > >> figure out why this sudden events. > >> > > >> > -Regards > >> > Rajarshi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > >> http://messenger. / invite/ > >> <http://messenger./invite/> > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > >> now. > >> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger./invite/> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- > >> Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > >> Messenger. > >> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_1/*http://in.messenger./?wm=n/> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------- > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! > > <http://in.rd./tagline_cricket_1/*http://beta.cricket.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Dear vistiji,thank you clarifications. I had one more query in this regard.As you said the astakavarga scores only shows who is supporting a leader . So you mean there is no correlation between the astakavarga scores of 10th and 11th from saturn regarding politicial career of a person? or you mean to say the if a person is having good scores in 10th and 11th from saturn then the people represented by the rashi or planets in it will support the person in politics?regards protimesh--- On Fri, 4/3/09, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 12:23 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Protimesh, Namaskar. Out of Jupiter, Mercury and the Nakshatra lords, Lagna is aspected by all whilst Moon is only associated with Jupiter and the nakshatresha, hence Lagna becomes stronger. His personal beliefs reg. dharma and Guru are seen from the ninth house from Navamsa Lagna. If Pisces Navamsa is correct then Ketu should make him a blind follower of dharma. I've not heard of Rahu in 2nd from AL sending one to prison. Astakavarga can show who is supporting a leader, but not that he is a leader. Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka joined shows Rajyasambandha Yoga and this being with Rahu indicates political Raja. With lord of Navamsa Lagna joined Karakamsa this confirms birth in a royal family and ascension to powerful positions. The nature of his beliefs is seen from the Bhratrikaraka which is Moon in a Saturnian sign and having passed Krishna Ekadashi (quite harsh like a strict mother). The Graha Arudha of Lagnesh-Venus is also in Capricorn confirming how people see his actions. The Yuti of AL & UL does not make him unmarried as neither are strongly associated with Saturn besides the placement of the lord in Capricorn. Instead with Venus in Digbala from AL I am sure he has a good following of ladies around him. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Protimesh Gupta skrev: Dear Vistiji and all, Namaskar to you, Here we are considering 13-03-1980 22:04 Hrs delhi right ? then why should we take VD from Lagna? As moon is in kendra and 2nd and 8th from it has lot of planets so moon lagna is stronger than the lagna so we should consider VD from moon. secondly is retro of saturn in 9th from moon making him a beliver of Dharma ? Does rahu in 2nd from AL send him to prision ? Retro sat a yogakaraka for tula lagna having good astakavarga scores in 10th and 11th from it will makes him a mass leader who is a hardliner? and finally his AL and UL both falling in cancer will makes him unmarried for long? please answer my queries.. regards protimesh --- On Tue, 3/31/09, premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:26 PM Om Gurave Namah, Dear Visti, I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well. Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous. Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna) , who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment. Regards Goonatilak --- In @ . com, "vikas" <vikasjeer@. ..> wrote: > > ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > Respected guru visti, > Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. > when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? > another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. > > indebted to you as always. > > with endless regards > vikas > @ . com, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events. > > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i..e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > > Hope this helps. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda. com > > @: visti@ > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th? > > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > > > -Regards > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > @ . com > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > > showing the current predicament. > > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > > >> Namaste, > > >> > > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > > >> > > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > > >> > > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > > >> > > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > > >> hence they are also weak > > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > > >> > > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Krishna > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14@ . co.in>/* > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > > >> > > >> Namaste > > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > > >> cases. > > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > > >> why in moon AD. > > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this. > > >> > > >> -Regards > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer@ . com>/* wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> vikas <vikasjeer > > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > > >> > > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > > >> Dear Rajarshi, > > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > > >> the problem: > > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > > >> the pain involved may be severe. > > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > > >> with regards > > >> > > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>, > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Yogi > > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > >> > > > >> > It is as follows. > > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > > >> information initially. > > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980 > > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > >> > New Delhi, India > > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > >> > > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > >> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com> > > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste. > > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > > >> MA MA dasa. > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste Members > > >> > > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > >> > > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > > >> > New Delhi > > >> > 10:04 PM > > >> > > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > > >> figure out why this sudden events. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Namaskar Visti I have a few doubts on your following mail. If Pisces Navamsa is correct then Ketu should make him a blind follower of dharma. What exactly does the ninth house ins navamsa vs ninth house in rasi show? Is the ninth house in navamsa a mroe sure test of dharma? Also, ketu there may show a mystical attitude to dharma? How is this different from the amsa in d60 where the ninth lord of rasi sits? I had hread you lecture on the d60 where you mentioned this shows the nature of a persons dharma. The nature of his beliefs is seen from the Bhratrikaraka which is Moon in a Saturnian sign and having passed Krishna Ekadashi (quite harsh like a strict mother). Does BK always show the nature of once beliefs? Or the kind of knowledge he/she is getting? I did not understand the difference. Thank you for all your efforts in explaning. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Fri, 3/4/09, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Friday, 3 April, 2009, 12:23 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Protimesh, Namaskar.Out of Jupiter, Mercury and the Nakshatra lords, Lagna is aspected by all whilst Moon is only associated with Jupiter and the nakshatresha, hence Lagna becomes stronger.His personal beliefs reg. dharma and Guru are seen from the ninth house from Navamsa Lagna. If Pisces Navamsa is correct then Ketu should make him a blind follower of dharma.I've not heard of Rahu in 2nd from AL sending one to prison. Astakavarga can show who is supporting a leader, but not that he is a leader. Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka joined shows Rajyasambandha Yoga and this being with Rahu indicates political Raja. With lord of Navamsa Lagna joined Karakamsa this confirms birth in a royal family and ascension to powerful positions. The nature of his beliefs is seen from the Bhratrikaraka which is Moon in a Saturnian sign and having passed Krishna Ekadashi (quite harsh like a strict mother).The Graha Arudha of Lagnesh-Venus is also in Capricorn confirming how people see his actions.The Yuti of AL & UL does not make him unmarried as neither are strongly associated with Saturn besides the placement of the lord in Capricorn. Instead with Venus in Digbala from AL I am sure he has a good following of ladies around him.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Protimesh Gupta skrev: Dear Vistiji and all,Namaskar to you,Here we are considering 13-03-1980 22:04 Hrs delhi right ? then why should we take VD from Lagna? As moon is in kendra and 2nd and 8th from it has lot of planets so moon lagna is stronger than the lagna so we should consider VD from moon.secondly is retro of saturn in 9th from moon making him a beliver of Dharma ?Does rahu in 2nd from AL send him to prision ?Retro sat a yogakaraka for tula lagna having good astakavarga scores in 10th and 11th from it will makes him a mass leader who is a hardliner?and finally his AL and UL both falling in cancer will makes him unmarried for long?please answer my queries.regardsprotimesh--- On Tue, 3/31/09, premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun GandhiTuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:26 PM Om Gurave Namah,Dear Visti,I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well.Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous.Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna) , who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment.RegardsGoonatilak---In , "vikas" <vikasjeer@. ..> wrote:>> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||> Respected guru visti,> Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer.> when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events?> another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this.> > indebted to you as always.> > with endless regards> vikas> , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:> >> > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events.> > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it.> > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas.> > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections.> > Hope this helps.> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)> > www: http://srigaruda. com> > @: visti@> > > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > >> > > Namaste Visti> > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas.> > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th?> > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna?> > > > > > -Regards> > > Rajarshi> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > /*> > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*> > > */> > >> > >> > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote:> > >> > >> > > Visti Larsen <visti@>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > > > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM> > >> > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£> > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar.> > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the> > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his> > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the> > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu> > > showing the current predicament.> > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship,> > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience> > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and> > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an> > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make> > > that situation horrible for one.> > >> > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on> > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and> > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the> > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction> > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging> > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different> > > story but these are the accusations.> > >> > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house> > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga).> > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the> > > utmost minimal problems with this.> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev:> > >> Namaste,> > >>> > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is> > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter.> > >>> > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi> > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun.> > >>> > >> Many planets are weak in this chart:> > >>> > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi> > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and> > >> hence they are also weak> > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama)> > >>> > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him.> > >>> > >> Regards,> > >> Krishna> > >>> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14@ . co.in>/*> > >> wrote:> > >>> > >>> > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ . co.in>> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM> > >>> > >> Namaste> > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so> > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court> > >> cases.> > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did> > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he> > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand> > >> why in moon AD.> > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I> > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart.> > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this.> > >> > > >> -Regards> > >> Rajarshi> > >>> > >> /*> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*> > >> */> > >>> > >>> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer>/* wrote:> > >>> > >>> > >> vikas <vikasjeer >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM> > >>> > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||> > >> Dear Rajarshi,> > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of> > >> the problem:> > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis.> > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and> > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde> > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved> > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and> > >> the pain involved may be severe.> > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal> > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects.> > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter> > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been> > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion> > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the> > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created.> > >> with regards> > >>> > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>,> > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> > >> >> > >> > Dear Yogi> > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day.> > >> > > > >> > It is as follows.> > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong> > >> information initially.> > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980> > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm> > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"> > >> > New Delhi, India> > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna> > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left)> > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)> > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left)> > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left)> > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left)> > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)> > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg)> > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am> > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm> > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174> > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13> > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38> > >> >> > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to> > >> change to Rahu/Mars.> > >> > > > >> > -Regards> > >> > Rajarshi> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > >> >> > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> wrote:> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..>> > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>> > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Namaste.> > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing> > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running> > >> MA MA dasa.> > >> >> > >> > Regards> > >> > Yogeshwari.R.> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in>> > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM> > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Namaste Members> > >> >> > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which> > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart.> > >> >> > >> > 13tyh May 1980> > >> > New Delhi> > >> > 10:04 PM> > >> >> > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't> > >> figure out why this sudden events.> > >> >> > >> > -Regards> > >> > Rajarshi> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > >> http://messenger. / invite/> > >> <http://messenger. / invite/>> > >> >> > >>> > >>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them> > >> now.> > >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: //messenger. / invite/>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > >> Connect with friends all over the world.. Get India> > >> Messenger.> > >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_1/*http: //in.messenger. / ?wm=n/>> > >>> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! > > > <http://in.rd. / tagline_cricket_ 1/*http:/ /beta.cricket. >> > >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Protimesh, Namaskar. Please read this article where i speak on Astakavarga: http://www.srigaruda.com/visti/index.php/articles/48-divisional-interpretation Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Protimesh Gupta skrev: Dear vistiji, thank you clarifications. I had one more query in this regard. As you said the astakavarga scores only shows who is supporting a leader . So you mean there is no correlation between the astakavarga scores of 10th and 11th from saturn regarding politicial career of a person? or you mean to say the if a person is having good scores in 10th and 11th from saturn then the people represented by the rashi or planets in it will support the person in politics? regards protimesh --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Friday, April 3, 2009, 12:23 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Protimesh, Namaskar. Out of Jupiter, Mercury and the Nakshatra lords, Lagna is aspected by all whilst Moon is only associated with Jupiter and the nakshatresha, hence Lagna becomes stronger. His personal beliefs reg. dharma and Guru are seen from the ninth house from Navamsa Lagna. If Pisces Navamsa is correct then Ketu should make him a blind follower of dharma. I've not heard of Rahu in 2nd from AL sending one to prison. Astakavarga can show who is supporting a leader, but not that he is a leader. Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka joined shows Rajyasambandha Yoga and this being with Rahu indicates political Raja. With lord of Navamsa Lagna joined Karakamsa this confirms birth in a royal family and ascension to powerful positions. The nature of his beliefs is seen from the Bhratrikaraka which is Moon in a Saturnian sign and having passed Krishna Ekadashi (quite harsh like a strict mother). The Graha Arudha of Lagnesh-Venus is also in Capricorn confirming how people see his actions. The Yuti of AL & UL does not make him unmarried as neither are strongly associated with Saturn besides the placement of the lord in Capricorn. Instead with Venus in Digbala from AL I am sure he has a good following of ladies around him. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Protimesh Gupta skrev: Dear Vistiji and all, Namaskar to you, Here we are considering 13-03-1980 22:04 Hrs delhi right ? then why should we take VD from Lagna? As moon is in kendra and 2nd and 8th from it has lot of planets so moon lagna is stronger than the lagna so we should consider VD from moon. secondly is retro of saturn in 9th from moon making him a beliver of Dharma ? Does rahu in 2nd from AL send him to prision ? Retro sat a yogakaraka for tula lagna having good astakavarga scores in 10th and 11th from it will makes him a mass leader who is a hardliner? and finally his AL and UL both falling in cancer will makes him unmarried for long? please answer my queries.. regards protimesh --- On Tue, 3/31/09, premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:26 PM Om Gurave Namah, Dear Visti, I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well. Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous. Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna) , who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment. Regards Goonatilak --- In @ . com, "vikas" <vikasjeer@. ...> wrote: > > ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > Respected guru visti, > Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. > when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? > another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. > > indebted to you as always. > > with endless regards > vikas > @ . com, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events. > > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i..e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > > Hope this helps. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda. com > > @: visti@ > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th? > > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > > > -Regards > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > @ . com > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > > showing the current predicament. > > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > > >> Namaste, > > >> > > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > > >> > > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > > >> > > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > > >> > > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > > >> hence they are also weak > > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > > >> > > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Krishna > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14@ . co.in>/* > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > > >> > > >> Namaste > > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > > >> cases. > > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > > >> why in moon AD. > > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this. > > >> > > >> -Regards > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer@ . com>/* wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> vikas <vikasjeer (AT) (DOT) com> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > > >> > > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > > >> Dear Rajarshi, > > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > > >> the problem: > > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > > >> the pain involved may be severe. > > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > > >> with regards > > >> > > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>, > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Yogi > > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > >> > > > >> > It is as follows. > > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > > >> information initially. > > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980 > > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > >> > New Delhi, India > > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > >> > > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > >> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com> > > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste. > > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > > >> MA MA dasa. > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste Members > > >> > > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > >> > > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > > >> > New Delhi > > >> > 10:04 PM > > >> > > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > > >> figure out why this sudden events. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. Ninth house in Navamsa shows your attitude towards Guru and any advise given by the same. As i said, Ketu makes one a blind follower of the Guru. Some people reject the Dharma they must do, so when we analyse the ninth lord from Lagna in Shastyamsa, we are also considering this. BK is ones guiding principles. Based on these principles one seeks a Guru (or not). Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Namaskar Visti  I have a few doubts on your following mail.  If Pisces Navamsa is correct then Ketu should make him a blind follower of dharma.  What exactly does the ninth house ins navamsa vs ninth house in rasi show? Is the ninth house in navamsa a mroe sure test of dharma? Also, ketu there may show a mystical attitude to dharma?  How is this different from the amsa in d60 where the ninth lord of rasi sits? I had hread you lecture on the d60 where you mentioned this shows the nature of a persons dharma.  The nature of his beliefs is seen from the Bhratrikaraka which is Moon in a Saturnian sign and having passed Krishna Ekadashi (quite harsh like a strict mother).  Does BK always show the nature of once beliefs? Or the kind of knowledge he/she is getting? I did not understand the difference.   Thank you for all your efforts in explaning.  -Regards  Rajarshi  The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Fri, 3/4/09, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Friday, 3 April, 2009, 12:23 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Protimesh, Namaskar. Out of Jupiter, Mercury and the Nakshatra lords, Lagna is aspected by all whilst Moon is only associated with Jupiter and the nakshatresha, hence Lagna becomes stronger. His personal beliefs reg. dharma and Guru are seen from the ninth house from Navamsa Lagna. If Pisces Navamsa is correct then Ketu should make him a blind follower of dharma. I've not heard of Rahu in 2nd from AL sending one to prison. Astakavarga can show who is supporting a leader, but not that he is a leader. Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka joined shows Rajyasambandha Yoga and this being with Rahu indicates political Raja. With lord of Navamsa Lagna joined Karakamsa this confirms birth in a royal family and ascension to powerful positions. The nature of his beliefs is seen from the Bhratrikaraka which is Moon in a Saturnian sign and having passed Krishna Ekadashi (quite harsh like a strict mother). The Graha Arudha of Lagnesh-Venus is also in Capricorn confirming how people see his actions. The Yuti of AL & UL does not make him unmarried as neither are strongly associated with Saturn besides the placement of the lord in Capricorn. Instead with Venus in Digbala from AL I am sure he has a good following of ladies around him. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Protimesh Gupta skrev: Dear Vistiji and all, Namaskar to you, Here we are considering 13-03-1980 22:04 Hrs delhi right ? then why should we take VD from Lagna? As moon is in kendra and 2nd and 8th from it has lot of planets so moon lagna is stronger than the lagna so we should consider VD from moon. secondly is retro of saturn in 9th from moon making him a beliver of Dharma ? Does rahu in 2nd from AL send him to prision ? Retro sat a yogakaraka for tula lagna having good astakavarga scores in 10th and 11th from it will makes him a mass leader who is a hardliner? and finally his AL and UL both falling in cancer will makes him unmarried for long? please answer my queries. regards protimesh --- On Tue, 3/31/09, premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: premgoona <premgoona (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:26 PM Om Gurave Namah, Dear Visti, I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well. Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous. Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna) , who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment. Regards Goonatilak --- In @ . com, "vikas" <vikasjeer@. ...> wrote: > > ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > Respected guru visti, > Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer. > when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events? > another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this. > > indebted to you as always. > > with endless regards > vikas > @ . com, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events. > > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it. > > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas. > > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections. > > Hope this helps. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > www: http://srigaruda. com > > @: visti@ > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > > Namaste Visti > > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas. > > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th? > > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna? > > > > > > -Regards > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > > @ . com > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM > > > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ > > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar. > > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the > > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his > > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the > > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu > > > showing the current predicament. > > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship, > > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience > > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and > > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an > > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make > > > that situation horrible for one. > > > > > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on > > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and > > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the > > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction > > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging > > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different > > > story but these are the accusations. > > > > > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house > > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga). > > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the > > > utmost minimal problems with this. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev: > > >> Namaste, > > >> > > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is > > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter. > > >> > > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi > > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun. > > >> > > >> Many planets are weak in this chart: > > >> > > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi > > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and > > >> hence they are also weak > > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama) > > >> > > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Krishna > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14@ . co.in>/* > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM > > >> > > >> Namaste > > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so > > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court > > >> cases. > > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did > > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he > > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand > > >> why in moon AD. > > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I > > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart. > > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this. > > >> > > >> -Regards > > >> Rajarshi > > >> > > >> /* > > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > >> */ > > >> > > >> > > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer@ . com>/* wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> vikas <vikasjeer (AT) (DOT) com> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM > > >> > > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| > > >> Dear Rajarshi, > > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of > > >> the problem: > > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis. > > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and > > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde > > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved > > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and > > >> the pain involved may be severe. > > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal > > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects. > > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter > > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been > > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion > > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the > > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created. > > >> with regards > > >> > > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>, > > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Yogi > > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day. > > >> > > > >> > It is as follows. > > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong > > >> information initially. > > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980 > > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm > > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > >> > New Delhi, India > > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna > > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left) > > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left) > > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left) > > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left) > > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) > > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) > > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am > > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm > > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174 > > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13 > > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38 > > >> > > > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to > > >> change to Rahu/Mars. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > >> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> > > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com> > > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste. > > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing > > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running > > >> MA MA dasa. > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Yogeshwari.R. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in> > > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM > > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Namaste Members > > >> > > > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which > > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart. > > >> > > > >> > 13tyh May 1980 > > >> > New Delhi > > >> > 10:04 PM > > >> > > > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't > > >> figure out why this sudden events. > > >> > > > >> > -Regards > > >> > Rajarshi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 jai shree krishna i would like to know whether varun gandhi will become prime minister of india in future and now whether bjp will win and advaniji becomes prime minster.--- On Tue, 3/31/09, premgoona <premgoona wrote: premgoona <premgoonaRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:26 PM Om Gurave Namah,Dear Visti,I too like to give my observation for your kindly comments. In this case , this event is explainable from Dwisaptati Sama Dasa as well.Saturn MD is running up to Nov 2011 while Ad is of Mecury. Saturn is in 12H Virgo , 8th from AK and AD load (Me).10th from A7. 3rd from AL. Aspected by Rahu. So Saturn MD is dangerous.Mercury depositor of Saturn placed 8th from AL. As far as AD is concerned , it is placed in 6th from MD. So the Karaka Mars placed in 8th from moon. If we put a glance at Jagannath Deshkana D3 for Karma , Mecury is in vergottam Dreshkana Aquarius(Lagna) , who is 8th load as well. It all shows speech, riots and imprisonment.RegardsGoonatilak---In , "vikas" <vikasjeer@. ..> wrote:>> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||> Respected guru visti,> Thanks for clearing concepts,I understand that taking vimsottari dasha from moon- he is in moon antra as as a result moon being lord of AL and exalted in D9 gave him fame.this was the original question side stepped in my answer.> when we take vimsottari dasha from lagna- he is in saturn- venus- how do we correlate this with the presnt set of events?> another query is regarding the points to be considered when to apply vimsottari from lagna as a special case like this.> > indebted to you as always.> > with endless regards> vikas> , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:> >> > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > The conditional Udu Dasas are Dasas for specific usage, i.e. they > > revolve around a specific desire of the individual. They are very > > accurate but that will not deter me from applying the Vimshottari Dasa > > or variations of the same to see the overall experiences. In his chart > > the Lagna-Vimshottari is most appropriate and should be consulted for > > all life events.> > > > To see intent we have to consider whether the specific accusations are > > 1) actions that the person would find acceptable, i.e. would he like to > > encourage violence, anger, etc. and 2) Whether he actually did it.> > To see 1) we see the nature of the Lagnesh and AK with the grahas in > > question, here Mars and Rahu... do they like these grahas.> > To see 2) see whether these grahas are placed in or lord the 3rd, 6th or > > 11th from Arudha Lagna. Here Arudha Lagna acts as if in Capricorn and > > Mars lords the 11th therefrom which speaks of initial intent to > > encourage 'excitement' in the people. But he never expected the final > > outcome to be that which we see as the grahas are in 8th from AL. These > > obstruct the sixth from AL and can prove detrimental towards his > > opportunities in any upcoming elections.> > Hope this helps.> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)> > www: http://srigaruda. com> > @: visti@> > > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > >> > > Namaste Visti> > > > > > Thank yuo very much for explaining the point. Indeed most of us forget > > > to check the MD when using vimsottari or udu dasas.> > > > > > But, will not the /dwisaptati/ dasa be applicable here? Lagna lord > > > being in 7th?> > > > > > How to understand his actual intentions? From the paka lagna?> > > > > > -Regards> > > Rajarshi> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > /*> > > *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*> > > */> > >> > >> > > --- On *Tue, 31/3/09, Visti Larsen /<visti@>/* wrote:> > >> > >> > > Visti Larsen <visti@>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > > > > > Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:08 PM> > >> > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£> > > Dear Rajarshi and others, Namaskar.> > > Keep in mind the scennario. He has become more popular with the> > > accusation, but the situation is to his detriment. Moon lords his> > > tenth house and Arudha Lagna giving fame, but this is the> > > Antaradasa and falls in the sixth house from the Mahadasa Rahu> > > showing the current predicament.> > > Principle: Even if the antaradasa is in a good yoga, lordship,> > > etc. if badly placed from the Mahadasa one will experience> > > positive events in a scenario which is highly uncomfortable and> > > even devastating. .. never ignore the Mahadasa as even if an> > > Antaradasa offers you a new position or job, the Mahadasa can make> > > that situation horrible for one.> > >> > > Rasi dristi of Rahu on the Arudha Lagna (or in this case on> > > seventh from AL as its stronger) can bring bad name and> > > accusations. The nature of the accusation is seen from the> > > placement of Rahu. Here the reason is on account of Rahus junction> > > with Mars (stirring up anger, riots) and Jupiter (encouraging> > > intolerance towards others). His actual intention is a different> > > story but these are the accusations.> > >> > > The jail threat is coming from Moon being in the twelfth house> > > from the Atmakaraka (bandhana yoga).> > > Moon is exalted in the Navamsa and I think he will suffer the> > > utmost minimal problems with this.> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama skrev:> > >> Namaste,> > >>> > >> Moon is disposited by Saturn who is aspected by Rahu. Rahu is> > >> closely conjunct 6L Jupiter.> > >>> > >> If one looks at it from Jaimini angle, 6L Jup and Rahu have Rasi> > >> drishti on Moon from badhaka sthana, in parivartana with Badhaka Sun.> > >>> > >> Many planets are weak in this chart:> > >>> > >> - Sun and Saturn are in Rasi Sandhi> > >> - Dispositors of Moon, Jupiter and Mars are in Rasi Sandhi and> > >> hence they are also weak> > >> - Mercury has a low Shadbala and hence weak (though vargottama)> > >>> > >> Who will save him? It appears that only LL Venus can save him.> > >>> > >> Regards,> > >> Krishna> > >>> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, rajarshi nandy /<rajarshi14@ . co.in>/*> > >> wrote:> > >>> > >>> > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ . co.in>> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 11:00 PM> > >>> > >> Namaste> > >> > > >> In the chart mars in 2nd lord retrograde in badhaksthana, so> > >> he is in trouble due to his speech.Also mars could mean court> > >> cases.> > >> > > >> But applying vimsottari, what I don't understand is why did> > >> he fall in trouble in moon AD. Moon is digbali. NO doubt he> > >> has some horrible curses and badhaks, but i dont understand> > >> why in moon AD.> > >> > > >> Also he seems to have become famous and popular suddenly. I> > >> cant find a jyotish reason from his chart.> > >> > > >> Please shed some more light on this.> > >> > > >> -Regards> > >> Rajarshi> > >>> > >> /*> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*> > >> */> > >>> > >>> > >> --- On *Mon, 30/3/09, vikas /<vikasjeer>/* wrote:> > >>> > >>> > >> vikas <vikasjeer >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> > > >> Monday, 30 March, 2009, 3:49 PM> > >>> > >> ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA||> > >> Dear Rajarshi,> > >> As a student I think the following may be indicative of> > >> the problem:> > >> Even with this data see the curses along 5-11 axis.> > >> his narayan dasha changed to leo from 14-march 2009 and> > >> leo is occupied by rahu-mars and jupiter- all retrograde> > >> indicating a terrible curse very difficult to be relieved> > >> of.six planets including the atmakaraka are involved and> > >> the pain involved may be severe.> > >> A dasha with rahu usually brings about criminal> > >> allegations as well as badhaka effects.> > >> his moon sign is being transited by rahu and deb jupiter> > >> in 7th from AL- may be thats the reason he has been> > >> blocked by a scandal arising out of anti religion> > >> statements and AL being transited by ketu may be the> > >> reason for his fundamentalist image thus created.> > >> with regards> > >>> > >> > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>,> > >> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> > >> >> > >> > Dear Yogi> > >> > > > >> > I am extremely sorry. I made a mistake in his birth day.> > >> > > > >> > It is as follows.> > >> > > > >> > 13th MARCH 1980, not May. Sorry for teh wrong> > >> information initially.> > >> > > > >> > March 13, 1980> > >> > Time: 10:04:00 pm> > >> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > >> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"> > >> > New Delhi, India> > >> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - Phalguna> > >> > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.75% left)> > >> > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)> > >> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (52.06% left)> > >> > Yoga: Siva (Me) (79.44% left)> > >> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.50% left)> > >> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)> > >> > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sg)> > >> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > >> > Sunrise: 6:37:11 am> > >> > Sunset: 6:24:39 pm> > >> > Janma Ghatis: 38.6174> > >> > Ayanamsa: 23-34-46.13> > >> > Sidereal Time: 9:08:38> > >> >> > >> > As per this, he is under Rahu/Moon. Soon it is going to> > >> change to Rahu/Mars.> > >> > > > >> > -Regards> > >> > Rajarshi> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > >> >> > >> > --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Yogi R <upapada11@ ..> wrote:> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Yogi R <upapada11@ ..>> > >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> > > > >> <http://in.mc85. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=% 40. com>> > >> > Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:51 PM> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Namaste.> > >> > I am using Jagannath hora soft ware in it is showing> > >> Moon Dasa got over in 06 -12- 2008. Now he is running> > >> MA MA dasa.> > >> >> > >> > Regards> > >> > Yogeshwari.R.> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ . co.in>> > >> > > > >> > Monday, March 30, 2009 9:30:46 AM> > >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Varun Gandhi> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Namaste Members> > >> >> > >> > While surfing the internet I found a blog which> > >> mentions Varun Gandhi's birth chart.> > >> >> > >> > 13tyh May 1980> > >> > New Delhi> > >> > 10:04 PM> > >> >> > >> > If this chart is correct, he is under moon AD, can't> > >> figure out why this sudden events.> > >> >> > >> > -Regards> > >> > Rajarshi> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > >> http://messenger. / invite/> > >> <http://messenger. / invite/>> > >> >> > >>> > >>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them> > >> now.> > >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: //messenger. / invite/>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > >> Connect with friends all over the world. Get India> > >> Messenger.> > >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_1/*http: //in.messenger. / ?wm=n/>> > >>> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! > > > <http://in.rd. / tagline_cricket_ 1/*http:/ /beta.cricket. >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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