Guest guest Posted September 7, 1999 Report Share Posted September 7, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATHDear Richard, Fortunate is the man who is to be guided in the Divine path by his spouse. That is the meaning of Ketu in Upapada. Ketu gives Kulasya Unnatim in Upapada and the family rises. Spouse is very spiritual, especially after 43 years, but can be whimsical and will also have other characteristics seen in Sadhu's. Unless Darapada aspects Upapada, the sexuality will not be the focus of marriage. Best Regards,Sanjay RathSri Jagannath Vedic Center152B Pocket-C, Mayur Vihar Ph-2, Delhi, INDIA 110091.Tel:+91-11-2489531Webpage:1. http://way.to/srath - Richard DiNucci fls ; GJL ; Sanjay Rath Tuesday, September 07, 1999 7:53 AM Re: Upapada Dear Sanjayji, Frank, and all on GL List: I have a continuing interest in Sanjay's explanation of the Upapada. Some time ago, Sanjay explained that the Upapada and its second were actually opposites, with the Upapada being the beginning of married life, and the second being the end of it. I also recall Sanjay's advide that one should look at where Ketu is located relative to the Upapada, since it is a first rate benefic. Sanjay, in addition to Frank's questions, I have another one that's related. If Ketu behaves in this manner (i.e. as a benefic), what is the significance of Ketu when it's placed within the Upapada? I value your assessment. Namaste, Richard - fls GJL ; Sanjay Rath Monday, September 06, 1999 1:24 PM Upapada Namaste Sanjay...( et. all) I Hope this email finds you in good health,,, With regard to upapada ( i.e.Arudha of the 12th house)... if the second house from upapada has malefic aspects or conjunction the native looses wife or renounces the world... With regard to aspects and renunciation - would this ONLY be by Rasi Dristi - or would it include Graha dristi also. Does the aspect indicate the fruition of the renunciation? e.g. if the 2nd house from Upapada is a common sign and Sani ( in a common sign) aspects it ( by rasi dristi) does renunciation come under the Dasa that Sani owns? As above if the second house from Upapada is Movable or Fixed - how does the Rasi Dristi influence this combination with malefic ( Sani , Mangala, etc.) your insight here is of great value. Om Sri Rama Jai Jai Rama Om Pranam, Shanti !Frank+ fschmidt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Dear Saurav and Sanjay Rath, Thank you both for the clarification.Wonder why would Sri C.S Patel ,an authority in his own right,offer this explanation with example charts. Regards, Satish sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji wrote: > > > > > + sri gurave namah + > > Dear Sourav > Very well said and if I may word this differently, ...the dharma of the 12th > house is to remove all debts indicated by the 8th house. > With best wishes & warm regards, > Yours truly > Sanjay Rath > > Webpages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com <http://.org/> > http://.org <http://sjcerc.com/> http://sjcerc.com > Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India > Phone: +91.11.25717162 > - > > > _____ > > Sourav [souravc108] > Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:59 PM > sohamsa > Re: Upapada > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Satish, > > namaskar. This is a well known controversy. However, > UL (which is Arudha of the Upapada) is, in our tradition, taken for 12H > always, irrespective of whether the lagna rasi is odd or even. I will give > two arguments. > > If for even rasi, we select UL for 2nd house, then shouldn't we do that for > all other houses , for e.g. say for Mantra pada, A5, shall we consider 9H > for odd lagna rasi ? but we do not. This is where we get into difficulty. UL > is shows our debts or our compromises (rina) and by the act of > giving/compromising, we strengthen UL. Because marriage is probably the > biggest area of giving or compromising, it is seen from UL. This rina can > only be seen from the 12H and UL is the manifestation of the area where we > are to compromise/give generously in life. UL should also be checked for > donations and all other giving. > > Secondly, Lagna always moves zodiacally. Then according to Parasara, Upapada > is the arudha of the house behind the lagna and that has to be 12H. > > Hope this helps a little. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ===================================================================== ======= > ================= > > > sohamsa , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Upapada,is normally taken from the 12th to > > ascendant,find out where its lord is positioned,and equal no of > > signs,is the UL. > > > > In Mr CS patel's book,the arudha system of prediction,he mentions > > for odd sign of Lagna,instead of 12 th it should be 2nd house.wheras > > for odd sign of Lagna it should be 12th as per standard > > procedure.pls see pg 56. > > > > What is the procedure to be followed. Upa Pada is very important > > for matching apart from other issue. > > > > Will appreciate enlightenment. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Satish-ji, namaskar. You are welcome. If you have enough information in those examples, I suggest that you take Arudha of 12H as UL and study these charts once again to see if our definition of UL is more appropriate. Of course, it may be the case that not enough information is given in those examples. Please try it out. Thanks Sanjay-ji for clarifying. Best wishes, Sourav ======================================================================================================= sohamsa , "R Satish" <rsatish1942 wrote:>> Dear Saurav and Sanjay Rath,> > Thank you both for the clarification.Wonder why would Sri C.S > Patel ,an authority in his own right,offer this explanation with > example charts.> > Regards,> > Satish> > > > > sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" guruji@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > + sri gurave namah +> > > > Dear Sourav> > Very well said and if I may word this differently, ...the dharma > of the 12th> > house is to remove all debts indicated by the 8th house.> > With best wishes & warm regards,> > Yours truly> > Sanjay Rath> > > > Webpages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > <http://.org/>> > http://.org <http://sjcerc.com/> http://sjcerc.com> > Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India> > Phone: +91.11.25717162> > -> > > > > > _____ > > > > Sourav [souravc108@] > > Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:59 PM> > sohamsa > > Re: Upapada> > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Dear Satish,> > > > namaskar. This is a well known > controversy. However,> > UL (which is Arudha of the Upapada) is, in our tradition, taken > for 12H> > always, irrespective of whether the lagna rasi is odd or even. I > will give> > two arguments.> > > > If for even rasi, we select UL for 2nd house, then shouldn't we do > that for> > all other houses , for e.g. say for Mantra pada, A5, shall we > consider 9H> > for odd lagna rasi ? but we do not. This is where we get into > difficulty. UL> > is shows our debts or our compromises (rina) and by the act of> > giving/compromising, we strengthen UL. Because marriage is > probably the> > biggest area of giving or compromising, it is seen from UL. This > rina can> > only be seen from the 12H and UL is the manifestation of the area > where we> > are to compromise/give generously in life. UL should also be > checked for> > donations and all other giving. > > > > Secondly, Lagna always moves zodiacally. Then according to > Parasara, Upapada> > is the arudha of the house behind the lagna and that has to be 12H.> > > > Hope this helps a little.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > > =====================================================================> =======> > =================> > > > > > sohamsa , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > > Upapada,is normally taken from the 12th to > > > ascendant,find out where its lord is positioned,and equal no of > > > signs,is the UL.> > > > > > In Mr CS patel's book,the arudha system of prediction,he > mentions > > > for odd sign of Lagna,instead of 12 th it should be 2nd > house.wheras > > > for odd sign of Lagna it should be 12th as per standard > > > procedure.pls see pg 56.> > > > > > What is the procedure to be followed. Upa Pada is very important > > > for matching apart from other issue.> > > > > > Will appreciate enlightenment.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > >> > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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