[Jagannath] various questions pertaining to spiritual life

November 30, 1999

OM KRISHNA GURU OMDear Zavisa & Gauranga,

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Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:44 PM

[Jagannath] Re: various questions pertaining to spiritual life

> "gauranga das" <gaurang- wrote: > original article:varahamihira/?start=572> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > > Dear Zavisa,> > > > Pranaams.> > > > I'm not sure that it'v completely authentic to use the parallep> between N.th house and N.th divisional chart. In fact as pep Parashara> he links the D-9 to the 7th (wife), the D-7 to the 5th (children), and> the D-20 to the 9th (dharma). So I would be rather cautious with> relatiing the divisional charts freely to any fields of life unless I> have a shastric reference for this. Karakamsha and houses therefrom are> specific things listed by Jaimini Mahrishi. But this is specific. I> wouldn't expand this priciple so freely os rather wouldn't generalize> it so much. In th Rashi chart we would see guru from the 9th, and> Diksha from the 5th. Or maybe we refer to the Drik Dasha of D-9, D-20.> But unless pecifically stated, it's not obvious to link the Guru to one> planet and expect to find him in the Vimshottari Dasha of that planet.> > Rath: The gains from a particular house are seen from the 11th from it. Thus, the fruits of marriage (7th) is seen from the 5th house which is the 11th from the 7th house. This principle has been (generally) used in the divisions in the first cycle D1 to D12. Thus, the 9th house is Dharma and the gain from Dharma is that the wife is pious. this has been clearly explained in the srimad Bhagavat Gita. Thus, the 7th (Wife) is the 11th from the 9th house and the navamsa is seen for the fruits (Physical plane relates to fruits) from Dharma and wife is generally called Dharma-patni seen from the D9 chart. Similarly, children are the fruits from marriage and are seen in the D7 chart.

A natural question is what about Drekkana? I shall wait for others to try and answer this.

> Thing is that I have followed this principle of linking narayana dashas> within divisional charts with corresponding rasi houses lords and> theirs levels of divisions, beyond 12th,24th etc. I think its explained> in introduction to COVA, or somewhere.> > Sanjay specificaly in some list said to look for a guru from BK.> SOmethink like "everybody has a father and few a guru". Diksa is seen> from Drig dasa and AL. As AL refers to name and drig dasa to taking> spiritual direction in life. Its from COVA. However I feel that it> might be possible to see this through Vimsottari also. Rath: Through Vimsottari or astottari or any other dasa this can be seen when you have reached that level of using these Udu Dasa. Till then use the more accurate and easy to grasp Drig dasa.> Regarding this :"In fact as pep Parashara he links the D-9 to the 7th> (wife), the D-7 to the 5th (children), and the D-20 to the 9th> (dharma)."> > Wife is a result from a father(in his time definitely) so is seen in> D-9. And children cannot come without a relationship with a women(note> that children jump every three(copulation 3rd house) signs from 5th or> 9th house there). D-20 would be like 8th house. I know that spiritual> principles are usually seen through 9th house but lets see my example> with 8th house. I've got Saturn in Pushya as a ruler of 2nd(food) and> 3rd(strengths and weaknesses) in conjunction with Mars in Aslesha(great> enemies). Saturn GK, Mars MK. 2nd and 4rt refer to childhood. When I> was 6 to 9 I stopped(sat) eating meat(mars) just because I could not> tolerate seiing those animals eaten.(now I think this is because it> happens in 12th from AL and refers to things you reject-violence sat> and mars). My whole family was against it, yet I continued with it to> this day. Do not have to tell you how I felt sometimes(as it happenes> in Cancer). Yet it was definitely spiritual decision as it was based> partially on a yoga book of Maheshwarananda as my aunt was practicing> yoga under him so I could get these different books at a time). So> saturn there(in 8th in Pushya -his naksatra) was good for spirituality,> yet mars caused troubles, and since this happenes in 12th from AL(and> varnada lagna is in 9th) it brought me somewhat of a bad name in> family-only from that -otherwise they liked me). So 8th house can mean> dharma also(ahimsa in this case because 12th from AL). Only if somebody> could explain me this other way around would I rethink this.> > ZRath: No, do not stretch the 11th house principle to the D12 and D3 charts. The eighth was the seed for the begining of Religion. If you read any book on Anthropology you will see how the religion evolved from the LOOKING AFTER THE DEAD..CALLED SHRADDHA IN INDIA.

> > If you are to establish a rael contact with a guru then it has to be> a lively relationship for your whole life. This relationship must be> eternal from both sides. If it breaks from either side, it can't be> called a proper guru-shishya relationship.> > > > Well I really do feel that ST is quite a qualified soul and as far as I> am concerned we'll see. :-)Rath: Whoever said that the Guru is for ONLY one life? From where did this definition come? There are many instances in India where a native goes to a Sadhu and is told that he has been waiting for him for a long time. Any person who gives knowledge is a Guru and in that sence is acting on behalf of Krishna. This can be a wife, a freind, a child etc. thus, we are constantly learning from our experiences and in that sence every being both living and non-living who/which is a source of knowledge is a Guru. So let us say OM KRISHNA GURU.

Om Tat SatBest WishesSanjay Rath