[Jaya Jagannath] Moola Dasa Sub-periods

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Dear Sat Siri Kaur,

 

The following is excerpted for Guru-deva's lesson.

Introduction

 

Lagna Kendradi Graha Dasa, also known as the Moola Dasa

(Refer: Saravali of Kalyan Verma), is one of the very

important dasa systems of Vedic astrology. 'Lagna' means

the ascendant, 'Kendra' means the quadrants/Cadent houses

and 'Adi ' means the " the others " which includes Panapara

(Succeedent signs 2nd, 5th, 8th & 11th) and Apoklimas

(Precedent signs 3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th). This dasa is vital

in that it gives the results of the past life Karma that

every individual has to face in the form of suffering or

blessing, depending on the Karma.

As the name suggests the dasa begins from the Lagna or any

other Kendra, whichever is stronger and has planet(s)

disposited in them, and is succeeded by the other Kendra's

(having planet(s) in it) according to their strengths.

After completing the periods of the planets in the

quadrants, the dasa shifts to the planets in the four signs

in the Panapara and then to the Apoklimas.

However, the following rules apply in deciding which sets

of houses - the Panapara or Apoklimas succeed the initial

dasa of the planets in the quadrants.

1. If the Lagna is an odd sign, the dasa of the planets

in the Panapara( 2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th ) follow the dasa of

the Kendra's.

2. If the Lagna is an even sign, the dasa of the

planets in the Apoklimas (Precedent signs 3rd, 6th, 9th &

12th) follow the dasa of the Kendra's.

3. If Saturn is in the Lagna, then irrespective of

whether the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in

the Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets

in the Panapara (2nd, 5th, 8th & 11th).

4. If Ketu is in Lagna, then irrespective of whether

the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in the

Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets in

the Apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th).

 

Sequence of the Dasa

 

In determining the sequence of the dasa of the planets,

their relative strengths are to be studied as per standard

rules.

a.. Among the four signs being considered (i.e. of the

Kendra, Panapara or Apoklimas), the strongest is the one

associated with the Atmakaraka. If the Atmakaraka is not so

placed, then the sign with the larger number of planets is

stronger. (The strength of a Rasi is determined on the basis

of principles explained later under " Sources of strength " )

b.. If only one planet is placed in the sign, then it

shall give its dasa. If more than one planet is placed in

the sign, then the planet with the highest longitude shall

have the first dasa, followed by the planet with the next

higher longitude and so on.

Period of the Dasa

 

Count the number of signs from there to its Moolatrikona

sign and subtract the number arrived at by 1. This period

is to be subtracted from the number of Vimsottari Dasa years

assigned to the planet. The net result arrived at indicates

the number of years of Moola Dasa/Lagna Kendradi Graha Dasa

assigned to the planet.

1.. Rider 1:Add one year to the final sum if the said

planet is exalted and subtract one if the planet is in

debilitation.

2.. Rider2: For the purposes of this Dasa, the count for

Rahu & Ketu shall be reckoned to Aquarius and Scorpio

respectively as is done in Narayana Dasa.

 

In case the number of years to be subtracted and the number

of years under the Vimsottari scheme are the same wherein

the final figure would be zero, then take the full cycle of

years under the Vimsottari dasa as the number of Moola dasa

years of the said planet in the first cycle. Similarly,

calculate the dasa years for the other planets in all the

Kendra's, Panapara and Apoklimas. After, having completed

the exercise for all the nine planets, the balance years

remaining from the first cycle (Param Ayus of man is for 120

years - so it is 120 minus the total Moola dasa years of all

nine planets in the first cycle) for each of the planet

works in the same order during the second cycle.

 

[Note: The degrees of Rahu and Ketu are taken as they are

and not from the reverse as is the usual case in determining

their degrees].

 

For example: Take a case where the Lagna is Gemini and

Venus, Mars and Rahu are disposited in it, where Venus being

the Atmakaraka is the strongest followed by Mars and Rahu.

The Moola Dasa will begin from Gemini (as it is the

strongest) and from Venus in particular as it is the

strongest. Count the number of signs from Gemini to Libra

(the Moolatrikona sign of Venus) - it is 5. As stated

above, it will be 5-1 = 4 and 20 years (Sukra Mahadasa

period) minus 4 = 16 years. The first dasa will be that of

Venus for 16

years followed by Mars and then by Rahu (being lesser in

degrees).

 

In case of Rahu, the Moolatrikona sign will be Aquarius

while for Ketu, it will be Scorpio. [Lesson: In Phalita

Dasa Rahu's debility will be in Sagittarius and in Ayur

Dasa, its debility will be in Scorpio, while the reverse

i.e., Gemini and Taurus, will be true in the case of Ketu].

 

End Excerpt.

 

Yours in Vrinda-devi's seva, Kusha devi dasi

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Dear Narasimha and Kusha devi dasi,

 

Thank you for the explanations!

Sincerely,

Sat Siri Kaur

 

Vrinda wrote:

 

> Dear Sat Siri Kaur,

>

> The following is excerpted for Guru-deva's lesson.

> Introduction

>

> Lagna Kendradi Graha Dasa, also known as the Moola Dasa

> (Refer: Saravali of Kalyan Verma), is one of the very

> important dasa systems of Vedic astrology. 'Lagna' means

> the ascendant, 'Kendra' means the quadrants/Cadent houses

> and 'Adi ' means the " the others " which includes Panapara

> (Succeedent signs 2nd, 5th, 8th & 11th) and Apoklimas

> (Precedent signs 3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th). This dasa is vital

> in that it gives the results of the past life Karma that

> every individual has to face in the form of suffering or

> blessing, depending on the Karma.

> As the name suggests the dasa begins from the Lagna or any

> other Kendra, whichever is stronger and has planet(s)

> disposited in them, and is succeeded by the other Kendra's

> (having planet(s) in it) according to their strengths.

> After completing the periods of the planets in the

> quadrants, the dasa shifts to the planets in the four signs

> in the Panapara and then to the Apoklimas.

> However, the following rules apply in deciding which sets

> of houses - the Panapara or Apoklimas succeed the initial

> dasa of the planets in the quadrants.

> 1. If the Lagna is an odd sign, the dasa of the planets

> in the Panapara( 2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th ) follow the dasa of

> the Kendra's.

> 2. If the Lagna is an even sign, the dasa of the

> planets in the Apoklimas (Precedent signs 3rd, 6th, 9th &

> 12th) follow the dasa of the Kendra's.

> 3. If Saturn is in the Lagna, then irrespective of

> whether the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in

> the Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets

> in the Panapara (2nd, 5th, 8th & 11th).

> 4. If Ketu is in Lagna, then irrespective of whether

> the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in the

> Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets in

> the Apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th).

>

> Sequence of the Dasa

>

> In determining the sequence of the dasa of the planets,

> their relative strengths are to be studied as per standard

> rules.

> a.. Among the four signs being considered (i.e. of the

> Kendra, Panapara or Apoklimas), the strongest is the one

> associated with the Atmakaraka. If the Atmakaraka is not so

> placed, then the sign with the larger number of planets is

> stronger. (The strength of a Rasi is determined on the basis

> of principles explained later under " Sources of strength " )

> b.. If only one planet is placed in the sign, then it

> shall give its dasa. If more than one planet is placed in

> the sign, then the planet with the highest longitude shall

> have the first dasa, followed by the planet with the next

> higher longitude and so on.

> Period of the Dasa

>

> Count the number of signs from there to its Moolatrikona

> sign and subtract the number arrived at by 1. This period

> is to be subtracted from the number of Vimsottari Dasa years

> assigned to the planet. The net result arrived at indicates

> the number of years of Moola Dasa/Lagna Kendradi Graha Dasa

> assigned to the planet.

> 1.. Rider 1:Add one year to the final sum if the said

> planet is exalted and subtract one if the planet is in

> debilitation.

> 2.. Rider2: For the purposes of this Dasa, the count for

> Rahu & Ketu shall be reckoned to Aquarius and Scorpio

> respectively as is done in Narayana Dasa.

>

> In case the number of years to be subtracted and the number

> of years under the Vimsottari scheme are the same wherein

> the final figure would be zero, then take the full cycle of

> years under the Vimsottari dasa as the number of Moola dasa

> years of the said planet in the first cycle. Similarly,

> calculate the dasa years for the other planets in all the

> Kendra's, Panapara and Apoklimas. After, having completed

> the exercise for all the nine planets, the balance years

> remaining from the first cycle (Param Ayus of man is for 120

> years - so it is 120 minus the total Moola dasa years of all

> nine planets in the first cycle) for each of the planet

> works in the same order during the second cycle.

>

> [Note: The degrees of Rahu and Ketu are taken as they are

> and not from the reverse as is the usual case in determining

> their degrees].

>

> For example: Take a case where the Lagna is Gemini and

> Venus, Mars and Rahu are disposited in it, where Venus being

> the Atmakaraka is the strongest followed by Mars and Rahu.

> The Moola Dasa will begin from Gemini (as it is the

> strongest) and from Venus in particular as it is the

> strongest. Count the number of signs from Gemini to Libra

> (the Moolatrikona sign of Venus) - it is 5. As stated

> above, it will be 5-1 = 4 and 20 years (Sukra Mahadasa

> period) minus 4 = 16 years. The first dasa will be that of

> Venus for 16

> years followed by Mars and then by Rahu (being lesser in

> degrees).

>

> In case of Rahu, the Moolatrikona sign will be Aquarius

> while for Ketu, it will be Scorpio. [Lesson: In Phalita

> Dasa Rahu's debility will be in Sagittarius and in Ayur

> Dasa, its debility will be in Scorpio, while the reverse

> i.e., Gemini and Taurus, will be true in the case of Ketu].

>

> End Excerpt.

>

> Yours in Vrinda-devi's seva, Kusha devi dasi

>

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Thank you so very much for this clear outline! I certainly appreciate it.

 

Phyl

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<Vrinda

<varahamihira >

Tuesday, May 09, 2000 2:22 PM

Re: [Jaya Jagannath] Moola Dasa Sub-periods

 

 

> Dear Sat Siri Kaur,

>

> The following is excerpted for Guru-deva's lesson.

> Introduction

>

> Lagna Kendradi Graha Dasa, also known as the Moola Dasa

> (Refer: Saravali of Kalyan Verma), is one of the very

> important dasa systems of Vedic astrology. 'Lagna' means

> the ascendant, 'Kendra' means the quadrants/Cadent houses

> and 'Adi ' means the " the others " which includes Panapara

> (Succeedent signs 2nd, 5th, 8th & 11th) and Apoklimas

> (Precedent signs 3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th). This dasa is vital

> in that it gives the results of the past life Karma that

> every individual has to face in the form of suffering or

> blessing, depending on the Karma.

> As the name suggests the dasa begins from the Lagna or any

> other Kendra, whichever is stronger and has planet(s)

> disposited in them, and is succeeded by the other Kendra's

> (having planet(s) in it) according to their strengths.

> After completing the periods of the planets in the

> quadrants, the dasa shifts to the planets in the four signs

> in the Panapara and then to the Apoklimas.

> However, the following rules apply in deciding which sets

> of houses - the Panapara or Apoklimas succeed the initial

> dasa of the planets in the quadrants.

> 1. If the Lagna is an odd sign, the dasa of the planets

> in the Panapara( 2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th ) follow the dasa of

> the Kendra's.

> 2. If the Lagna is an even sign, the dasa of the

> planets in the Apoklimas (Precedent signs 3rd, 6th, 9th &

> 12th) follow the dasa of the Kendra's.

> 3. If Saturn is in the Lagna, then irrespective of

> whether the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in

> the Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets

> in the Panapara (2nd, 5th, 8th & 11th).

> 4. If Ketu is in Lagna, then irrespective of whether

> the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in the

> Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets in

> the Apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th).

>

> Sequence of the Dasa

>

> In determining the sequence of the dasa of the planets,

> their relative strengths are to be studied as per standard

> rules.

> a.. Among the four signs being considered (i.e. of the

> Kendra, Panapara or Apoklimas), the strongest is the one

> associated with the Atmakaraka. If the Atmakaraka is not so

> placed, then the sign with the larger number of planets is

> stronger. (The strength of a Rasi is determined on the basis

> of principles explained later under " Sources of strength " )

> b.. If only one planet is placed in the sign, then it

> shall give its dasa. If more than one planet is placed in

> the sign, then the planet with the highest longitude shall

> have the first dasa, followed by the planet with the next

> higher longitude and so on.

> Period of the Dasa

>

> Count the number of signs from there to its Moolatrikona

> sign and subtract the number arrived at by 1. This period

> is to be subtracted from the number of Vimsottari Dasa years

> assigned to the planet. The net result arrived at indicates

> the number of years of Moola Dasa/Lagna Kendradi Graha Dasa

> assigned to the planet.

> 1.. Rider 1:Add one year to the final sum if the said

> planet is exalted and subtract one if the planet is in

> debilitation.

> 2.. Rider2: For the purposes of this Dasa, the count for

> Rahu & Ketu shall be reckoned to Aquarius and Scorpio

> respectively as is done in Narayana Dasa.

>

> In case the number of years to be subtracted and the number

> of years under the Vimsottari scheme are the same wherein

> the final figure would be zero, then take the full cycle of

> years under the Vimsottari dasa as the number of Moola dasa

> years of the said planet in the first cycle. Similarly,

> calculate the dasa years for the other planets in all the

> Kendra's, Panapara and Apoklimas. After, having completed

> the exercise for all the nine planets, the balance years

> remaining from the first cycle (Param Ayus of man is for 120

> years - so it is 120 minus the total Moola dasa years of all

> nine planets in the first cycle) for each of the planet

> works in the same order during the second cycle.

>

> [Note: The degrees of Rahu and Ketu are taken as they are

> and not from the reverse as is the usual case in determining

> their degrees].

>

> For example: Take a case where the Lagna is Gemini and

> Venus, Mars and Rahu are disposited in it, where Venus being

> the Atmakaraka is the strongest followed by Mars and Rahu.

> The Moola Dasa will begin from Gemini (as it is the

> strongest) and from Venus in particular as it is the

> strongest. Count the number of signs from Gemini to Libra

> (the Moolatrikona sign of Venus) - it is 5. As stated

> above, it will be 5-1 = 4 and 20 years (Sukra Mahadasa

> period) minus 4 = 16 years. The first dasa will be that of

> Venus for 16

> years followed by Mars and then by Rahu (being lesser in

> degrees).

>

> In case of Rahu, the Moolatrikona sign will be Aquarius

> while for Ketu, it will be Scorpio. [Lesson: In Phalita

> Dasa Rahu's debility will be in Sagittarius and in Ayur

> Dasa, its debility will be in Scorpio, while the reverse

> i.e., Gemini and Taurus, will be true in the case of Ketu].

>

> End Excerpt.

>

> Yours in Vrinda-devi's seva, Kusha devi dasi

>

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varahamihira , Vrinda@a... wrote:

> Dear Sat Siri Kaur,

>

> The following is excerpted for Guru-deva's lesson.

> Introduction

>

> However, the following rules apply in deciding which sets

> of houses - the Panapara or Apoklimas succeed the initial

> dasa of the planets in the quadrants.

> 1. If the Lagna is an odd sign, the dasa of the planets

> in the Panapara( 2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th ) follow the dasa of

> the Kendra's.

> 2. If the Lagna is an even sign, the dasa of the

> planets in the Apoklimas (Precedent signs 3rd, 6th, 9th &

> 12th) follow the dasa of the Kendra's.

> 3. If Saturn is in the Lagna, then irrespective of

> whether the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in

> the Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets

> in the Panapara (2nd, 5th, 8th & 11th).

> 4. If Ketu is in Lagna, then irrespective of whether

> the Lagna is odd or even, the dasa of the planets in the

> Kendra signs will be followed by the dasa of the planets in

> the Apoklimas (3rd, 6th, 9th & 12th).

 

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namastae!

 

I have a couple of questions regarding the info.

given above. They pertain to the planetary positions I have in my

chart.

 

My lagna is an even sign , Virgo with both Saturn as well as

Ketu along with a few other planets in it. In this case which rule

applies there..? which planet gets preference in determining the daSa

of the planets. Saturn or ketu ? How do we determine ? If atmakaaraka

is also placed in the same sign along with Saturn and Ketu does that

planet has any say in it ?

And also could some one please give the exact pronunciation and

meaning of the words " panapara " and " apoklima " .If I know atleast how

they are pronounced exactly, I could look them up myself in Sanskrit

dictionary..

 

with advance thanks ,

 

and regards,

 

 

suprabha

 

 

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> Sequence of the Dasa

>

> In determining the sequence of the dasa of the planets,

> their relative strengths are to be studied as per standard

> rules.

> a.. Among the four signs being considered (i.e. of the

> Kendra, Panapara or Apoklimas), the strongest is the one

> associated with the Atmakaraka. If the Atmakaraka is not so

> placed, then the sign with the larger number of planets is

> stronger. (The strength of a Rasi is determined on the basis

> of principles explained later under " Sources of strength " )

> b.. If only one planet is placed in the sign, then it

> shall give its dasa. If more than one planet is placed in

> the sign, then the planet with the highest longitude shall

> have the first dasa, followed by the planet with the next

> higher longitude and so on.

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In a message dated 5/9/00 9:49:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, saarada

writes:

 

<< And also could some one please give the exact pronunciation and

meaning of the words " panapara " and " apoklima " .If I know atleast how

they are pronounced exactly, I could look them up myself in Sanskrit

dictionary..

 

with advance thanks ,

>>

Panaphara-Succedant houses 2,5,8,11

Apoklima- Cadent houses 3,6,9,and 12

 

Don' know proper pronounciation, sorry.

 

In Jagannath Seva, Kusha devi dasi