[Jaya Jagannath] [Jagannath] Lord Chaitanya's birth data

May 1, 2000

Om Krishnaaya Namah

Hello,

Bear in mind what Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita has to

say on this matter:

" simha-rasi, simha-lagna, ucca graha-gana

sad-varga, asta-varga, sarva sulaksana "

" According to the Jyotir-veda, or Vedic astronomy,

when the figure of the lion appears both in the zodiac

and the time of birth [lagna], this indicates a very

high conjunction of planets, an area under the

influence of sad-varga and asta-varga, which are

all-auspicious moments. " (Adi 13:90)

Raghu Das (Goravani) givces Sri Chaitanya's birth data

as:

02/27/1486, at 16:39:00

Mayapur India

88 E 8 22 N 27

Standard Time Hours from Greenwich: -5.50

Hare Krishna,

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May 2, 2000

Dear Purushottama,

I am looking for Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's chart in what Sri Achyuta has

written. That alone can I consider as most authentic. I am unable to decode

the numbers at present. Cannot agree to the conjunction of the Lagna Lord

Sun with Rahu...No way. It is very hard to accept.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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Pursottam Dabasia <pursottam_dabasia

Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:18 AM

Re: [Jaya Jagannath] Re: [Jagannath] Re: Lord Chaitanya's birth

data

> Om Krishnaaya Namah

>

> Hello,

>

> Bear in mind what Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita has to

> say on this matter:

>

> " simha-rasi, simha-lagna, ucca graha-gana

> sad-varga, asta-varga, sarva sulaksana "

>

> " According to the Jyotir-veda, or Vedic astronomy,

> when the figure of the lion appears both in the zodiac

> and the time of birth [lagna], this indicates a very

> high conjunction of planets, an area under the

> influence of sad-varga and asta-varga, which are

> all-auspicious moments. " (Adi 13:90)

>

> Raghu Das (Goravani) givces Sri Chaitanya's birth data

> as:

>

> 02/27/1486, at 16:39:00

> Mayapur India

> 88 E 8 22 N 27

> Standard Time Hours from Greenwich: -5.50

>

> Hare Krishna,

>

> Pursottam

>

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May 2, 2000

Dear Gauranga

We have to approach this with an open mind. Moon in Lagna for Simha Lagna is

not good as the Moon is badly eclipsed and the Rahu has also taken oven the

Lagna Lord Sun. I have a strong feeling that the Virgo should be more

accurate.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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Zavisa Nikac <zavisa.nikac

Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:30 AM

[Jaya Jagannath] Re: [Jagannath] Re: Lord Chaitanya's birth data

> At 1. 5. 2000 16:23:00, you wrote:

> >JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> >Dear Zavisa,

> >

> >Namaste.

> >

>

> Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

>

> I have thought of doing research on this chart so have taken back Sri

Chaitanya Mangala I

> borrowed one mataji to read, and thought of researching for dates from

other books, but its not

> so easy. If you have some dates on files from Sri Krishna Chaitanya's life

perhaps you could

> post them, years at least, so we can all discuss. Otherwise till 7 in the

morning tomorrow I

> have to retranslate(correct the translation that was translated by one

mataji, and I don't have

> an english original-imagine that) of Vyasa puja report from Puri

Maharaja's Vyasa Puja that has

> to go for a immediate lecture, and I haven't even started, so I'll try to

limit myself to a few

> points without taking dasha's into consideration(which is a must of

course) and will try to get

> on the life of Sri Krishna Chaitanya tommorow provided I have time.

>

> Basically, I have never reseearched his chart. Just did remember that

there was a discussion

> over Sri Krishna Chaitanya's chart on jyotish list, and KN Rao and Das

Goravani gave Leo

> Lagna Chart(Gaura Simha), that is also in Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita

published by Srila

> Prabhupada(taken from Bhaktivinoda Thakura's writings), and I heard it was

> traditionally accepted in Bengal so I kind of automatically accepted it.

But I guess I canot

> stand behind it without my own astro logic.

>

> Anyway, I myself couldn't accept Libra Lagna for a fact that Atmakaraka

Jupiter is in 3rd house

> in 6th from AL. I mean his main way of preaching was Harinam Sankirtan

that revolves on Maha-

> mantra. I don't believe in Jupiter in 3rd, place where he would lose all

bala to do anything,

> and its also a Maraka Sthana for Jupiter, and from AL its also not good

for preaching. When AK

> is not favourable to Raja yogas things are so difficult to materialise.

And Sri Chaitanya is

> most known maha-vadanyaya avatara. Jupiter rules compassion. You have to

have something to be

> able to give, so Jupiter should be strongly disposed for a preacher and

preaching. Look at

> Srila Prabhupada's chart(not that Srila Prabhupada is the name he is most

famous for, not Swami

> Maharaja - his sannyasa name). In his chart he has Jup in 5th from AL

together with Ketu and

> Sun. Perfect combination for a preacher, and for a NAME(AL) as a preacher,

and as it is put in

> every book that Srila Prabhupada means he to whom other masters pay their

obeisances-that's one

> of the meaning of the word propagated by ISKCON and so he is mostly known

through this name).

> So basic point is that Sri Krishna Chaitanya should have strongly disposed

Jupiter in Rasi

> chart for a preacher. And from UL it must be possible to see that his

first wife Srimati

> Laksmipriya left her body out of a snakebite of separation from Sri

Gauranga(there should be

> influence of Sun and Rahu on 3rd or 8th from UL). In the minds of people

he is a hidden Krishna

> avatara which can be seen from Leo lagna, from chandra lagna as gurudeva

pointed out.

>

> However I must say that I did never analyse Leo lagna chart but did rather

think Libra is not

> likiable so it must be the other one, Leo lagna. But we also have to see

Virgo Lagna and also

> Sagittarius lagna, both of which would give him Hamsamahapurusha yoga with

Atmakarak involved.

> And life events should all match from AL and dashas, and I do not have the

time right now to

> even start doing this. Maybe later, or tommorowmaybe. After Sanjay pointed

out that he is also

> not satisfied with Leo lagna, only then did I first time gave a closer

look at it and I must

> say that I do not agree to the fact that Jup would be in 8th from AL, and

some other

> combinations from AL did not impress me. Cannot write on them right now.

Generally AL did not

> impress me.

>

> Zavisa

>

> p.s. Also you should be able to explain his looks. He was 2 meter 20 tall,

and had a golden

> complexion. That is one of the main things for correcting the navamsa

lagna. Can somebody teach

> me which planets are tall and show a tall person. Jupiter maybe. I am 1

meter 96 and I should

> know that, but I do not. It would help me also to be satisfied with my

navamsa lagna. Zoran,

> can you maybe explain?

>

> >> Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

> >>

> >> This is not the chart. Moon should be in lagna with ketu

> >showing hidden avatara of Krishna. I

> >> will search through the archives when I find time. Jupiter in

> >5th in his own sign Sagittarius

> >> gave him an ability to won over others in debates, and be

> >called Nimai pandita.

> >>

> >> thanks anyway,

> >>

> >> Zavisa

> >

> >Rasi chart may be argued upon, but for me Navamsha is very

> >descripitve of Lord Caitanya. As per PC Jyotish Navamsha Lagna is

> >Libra, with Jupiter, Moon and Mercury. Jupiter is Atmakaraka, so

> >again it points to someone who has incarnated not for

> >self-realization, but for preaching. The thwlfth from Karakamsha

> >is Virgo, unaspected, and and it,s lord is in Lagnamsha together

> >with Moon and Jupiter. This shows Him to be the source of all

> >incarnations, and non-different from Kroshna. According to what

> >we have learned form Sanjayji on Navamsha, this signification

> >must be more important than Rasi Lagna position. Plus, they are

> >in Libra, the sign of Venus, which shows Radharani, that He

> >appeared with the complexion and sentiments of Sri Radha.

> >Gurudeva has explained that Jupiter or Mercury with Venus

> >signifies Lord Caitanya. So you couldn't even pick a better

> >Lagnamsha for Him.

> >Then, 7th from Lagnamsha contains Mars in own house and Sun

> >exalted. He accepted His first wife in Sun's Mahadasha, and the

> >second one in Moon's Mahadasha, which is the lord of the 2nd from

> >Upapada. the position of Ketu together with Moon and in the 8th

> >from Aries in Navamsha would show renunciation on the 2nd wife.

> >

> >Now taking your point about the debates, Saturn in the 2nd in

> >Scorpio could show debatges, especially in logic (Mars). And Sun

> >with Rahu in A2 may show the same. He became a renowned logician

> >in Sun's Mahadasha.

> >But Jnati Karaka Venus woudl show that His real concern was

> >Krishna-bhakti, especially in Radha's mood, and He would talk

> >exclusively on this topic with His intimate associates (Venus in

> >the 7th).

> >

> >S I'm not convinced to convert to Leo Lagna.

> >

> >But let Gurudeva say His opinion.

> >

> >Yours, Gauranga das

> >

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May 2, 2000

Dear Gauranga,

Jaya Jagannath

In this Vesha Sri Mahaprabhu has lived like a Sanyasi and Pravrajya Yoga and

renunciation is what He taught. This should give the navamsa lagna

associating with the 12th from Karakamsa. This gives the possibility of any

dual sign in the navamsa lagna.

His knowledge of sanskrit was sheer perfection and His explanation of the

Srimad bhagavatam was penultimate. Thus Devaguru Brihaspati is likely to be

in trines.

Taking both together, Gemini Navamsa is likely in Virgo Lagna. Do consider

this as well.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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Gauranga Das <gauranga

Monday, May 01, 2000 7:53 PM

[Jaya Jagannath] Re: [Jagannath] Re: Lord Chaitanya's birth data

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Zavisa,

>

> Namaste.

>

> > Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

> >

> > This is not the chart. Moon should be in lagna with ketu

> showing hidden avatara of Krishna. I

> > will search through the archives when I find time. Jupiter in

> 5th in his own sign Sagittarius

> > gave him an ability to won over others in debates, and be

> called Nimai pandita.

> >

> > thanks anyway,

> >

> > Zavisa

>

> Rasi chart may be argued upon, but for me Navamsha is very

> descripitve of Lord Caitanya. As per PC Jyotish Navamsha Lagna is

> Libra, with Jupiter, Moon and Mercury. Jupiter is Atmakaraka, so

> again it points to someone who has incarnated not for

> self-realization, but for preaching. The thwlfth from Karakamsha

> is Virgo, unaspected, and and it,s lord is in Lagnamsha together

> with Moon and Jupiter. This shows Him to be the source of all

> incarnations, and non-different from Kroshna. According to what

> we have learned form Sanjayji on Navamsha, this signification

> must be more important than Rasi Lagna position. Plus, they are

> in Libra, the sign of Venus, which shows Radharani, that He

> appeared with the complexion and sentiments of Sri Radha.

> Gurudeva has explained that Jupiter or Mercury with Venus

> signifies Lord Caitanya. So you couldn't even pick a better

> Lagnamsha for Him.

> Then, 7th from Lagnamsha contains Mars in own house and Sun

> exalted. He accepted His first wife in Sun's Mahadasha, and the

> second one in Moon's Mahadasha, which is the lord of the 2nd from

> Upapada. the position of Ketu together with Moon and in the 8th

> from Aries in Navamsha would show renunciation on the 2nd wife.

>

> Now taking your point about the debates, Saturn in the 2nd in

> Scorpio could show debatges, especially in logic (Mars). And Sun

> with Rahu in A2 may show the same. He became a renowned logician

> in Sun's Mahadasha.

> But Jnati Karaka Venus woudl show that His real concern was

> Krishna-bhakti, especially in Radha's mood, and He would talk

> exclusively on this topic with His intimate associates (Venus in

> the 7th).

>

> S I'm not convinced to convert to Leo Lagna.

>

> But let Gurudeva say His opinion.

>

> Yours, Gauranga das

>

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May 3, 2000

At 3. 5. 2000 0:33:00, you wrote:

>Dear Gauranga,

>Jaya Jagannath

>

>In this Vesha Sri Mahaprabhu has lived like a Sanyasi and Pravrajya Yoga and

>renunciation is what He taught. This should give the navamsa lagna

>associating with the 12th from Karakamsa. This gives the possibility of any

>dual sign in the navamsa lagna.

>

>His knowledge of sanskrit was sheer perfection and His explanation of the

>Srimad bhagavatam was penultimate. Thus Devaguru Brihaspati is likely to be

>in trines.

>

>Taking both together, Gemini Navamsa is likely in Virgo Lagna. Do consider

>this as well.

>Best Wishes

>Sanjay Rath

>

Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

I do not have the time right now to discuss Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's chart in

details through

his life. Its too much of a task. But you mentioned Gemini Navamsa for a lagna,

and dual signs,

but isn't Jup in 6th from it? Are you maybe speaking of movable signs and cancer

lagna. And can

you explain on his looks regarding to his height?

yours sisya,

Zavisa

>-

>Gauranga Das <gauranga

><varahamihira >

>Monday, May 01, 2000 7:53 PM

>[Jaya Jagannath] Re: [Jagannath] Re: Lord Chaitanya's birth data

>

>> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>>

>> Dear Zavisa,

>>

>> Namaste.

>>

>> > Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

>> >

>> > This is not the chart. Moon should be in lagna with ketu

>> showing hidden avatara of Krishna. I

>> > will search through the archives when I find time. Jupiter in

>> 5th in his own sign Sagittarius

>> > gave him an ability to won over others in debates, and be

>> called Nimai pandita.

>> >

>> > thanks anyway,

>> >

>> > Zavisa

>>

>> Rasi chart may be argued upon, but for me Navamsha is very

>> descripitve of Lord Caitanya. As per PC Jyotish Navamsha Lagna is

>> Libra, with Jupiter, Moon and Mercury. Jupiter is Atmakaraka, so

>> again it points to someone who has incarnated not for

>> self-realization, but for preaching. The thwlfth from Karakamsha

>> is Virgo, unaspected, and and it,s lord is in Lagnamsha together

>> with Moon and Jupiter. This shows Him to be the source of all

>> incarnations, and non-different from Kroshna. According to what

>> we have learned form Sanjayji on Navamsha, this signification

>> must be more important than Rasi Lagna position. Plus, they are

>> in Libra, the sign of Venus, which shows Radharani, that He

>> appeared with the complexion and sentiments of Sri Radha.

>> Gurudeva has explained that Jupiter or Mercury with Venus

>> signifies Lord Caitanya. So you couldn't even pick a better

>> Lagnamsha for Him.

>> Then, 7th from Lagnamsha contains Mars in own house and Sun

>> exalted. He accepted His first wife in Sun's Mahadasha, and the

>> second one in Moon's Mahadasha, which is the lord of the 2nd from

>> Upapada. the position of Ketu together with Moon and in the 8th

>> from Aries in Navamsha would show renunciation on the 2nd wife.

>>

>> Now taking your point about the debates, Saturn in the 2nd in

>> Scorpio could show debatges, especially in logic (Mars). And Sun

>> with Rahu in A2 may show the same. He became a renowned logician

>> in Sun's Mahadasha.

>> But Jnati Karaka Venus woudl show that His real concern was

>> Krishna-bhakti, especially in Radha's mood, and He would talk

>> exclusively on this topic with His intimate associates (Venus in

>> the 7th).

>>

>> S I'm not convinced to convert to Leo Lagna.

>>

>> But let Gurudeva say His opinion.

>>

>> Yours, Gauranga das

>>

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May 3, 2000

Dear Zavisa,

I thought Jupiter was in Sagittarius. Pl check and confirm.

Also Jup maybe in trines to Gemini Navamsa..Please check on this or Just

repost the Rasi & Navamsa.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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Zavisa Nikac <zavisa.nikac

Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:25 AM

Re: Re: [Jaya Jagannath] Re: [Jagannath] Re: Lord Chaitanya's birth

data

> At 3. 5. 2000 0:33:00, you wrote:

> >Dear Gauranga,

> >Jaya Jagannath

> >

> >In this Vesha Sri Mahaprabhu has lived like a Sanyasi and Pravrajya Yoga

and

> >renunciation is what He taught. This should give the navamsa lagna

> >associating with the 12th from Karakamsa. This gives the possibility of

any

> >dual sign in the navamsa lagna.

> >

> >His knowledge of sanskrit was sheer perfection and His explanation of the

> >Srimad bhagavatam was penultimate. Thus Devaguru Brihaspati is likely to

be

> >in trines.

> >

> >Taking both together, Gemini Navamsa is likely in Virgo Lagna. Do

consider

> >this as well.

> >Best Wishes

> >Sanjay Rath

> >

>

> Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

>

> I do not have the time right now to discuss Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's

chart in details through

> his life. Its too much of a task. But you mentioned Gemini Navamsa for a

lagna, and dual signs,

> but isn't Jup in 6th from it? Are you maybe speaking of movable signs and

cancer lagna. And can

> you explain on his looks regarding to his height?

>

> yours sisya,

>

> Zavisa

>

> >-

> >Gauranga Das <gauranga

> ><varahamihira >

> >Monday, May 01, 2000 7:53 PM

> >[Jaya Jagannath] Re: [Jagannath] Re: Lord Chaitanya's birth data

> >

> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >>

> >> Dear Zavisa,

> >>

> >> Namaste.

> >>

> >> > Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

> >> >

> >> > This is not the chart. Moon should be in lagna with ketu

> >> showing hidden avatara of Krishna. I

> >> > will search through the archives when I find time. Jupiter in

> >> 5th in his own sign Sagittarius

> >> > gave him an ability to won over others in debates, and be

> >> called Nimai pandita.

> >> >

> >> > thanks anyway,

> >> >

> >> > Zavisa

> >>

> >> Rasi chart may be argued upon, but for me Navamsha is very

> >> descripitve of Lord Caitanya. As per PC Jyotish Navamsha Lagna is

> >> Libra, with Jupiter, Moon and Mercury. Jupiter is Atmakaraka, so

> >> again it points to someone who has incarnated not for

> >> self-realization, but for preaching. The thwlfth from Karakamsha

> >> is Virgo, unaspected, and and it,s lord is in Lagnamsha together

> >> with Moon and Jupiter. This shows Him to be the source of all

> >> incarnations, and non-different from Kroshna. According to what

> >> we have learned form Sanjayji on Navamsha, this signification

> >> must be more important than Rasi Lagna position. Plus, they are

> >> in Libra, the sign of Venus, which shows Radharani, that He

> >> appeared with the complexion and sentiments of Sri Radha.

> >> Gurudeva has explained that Jupiter or Mercury with Venus

> >> signifies Lord Caitanya. So you couldn't even pick a better

> >> Lagnamsha for Him.

> >> Then, 7th from Lagnamsha contains Mars in own house and Sun

> >> exalted. He accepted His first wife in Sun's Mahadasha, and the

> >> second one in Moon's Mahadasha, which is the lord of the 2nd from

> >> Upapada. the position of Ketu together with Moon and in the 8th

> >> from Aries in Navamsha would show renunciation on the 2nd wife.

> >>

> >> Now taking your point about the debates, Saturn in the 2nd in

> >> Scorpio could show debatges, especially in logic (Mars). And Sun

> >> with Rahu in A2 may show the same. He became a renowned logician

> >> in Sun's Mahadasha.

> >> But Jnati Karaka Venus woudl show that His real concern was

> >> Krishna-bhakti, especially in Radha's mood, and He would talk

> >> exclusively on this topic with His intimate associates (Venus in

> >> the 7th).

> >>

> >> S I'm not convinced to convert to Leo Lagna.

> >>

> >> But let Gurudeva say His opinion.

> >>

> >> Yours, Gauranga das

> >>

>

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