Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Venkatesh, I think Karaka Yoga is similar to " yoga " between Sun and moon, but instead of them, the calculation is based upon the longitudes of AK and AmK. I am totally blank about the significance of this yoga. Regards, Lakshmi --- B Lakshmi Ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Venkatesh, > > Here is what Narasimha garu has to say about Karaka > tithi...taken from > his mail on Kundalini Awakening. > > " As you correctly suspected, Atma karaka is very > important. It is thru > the individual soul that one's consciousness > perceives the universal soul. > > While Sun and Moon show the universal soul and the > mind, I was taught > that atma karaka (AK) and amatya karaka (AmK) show > the individual soul > and the individual consciousness. Just as you find a > tithi from the > longitudes of Sun and Moon, you can find a " karaka > tithi " from the > longitudes of AK and AmK. Just as the normal tithi > physically shows > the phase of Moon and how much of Sun's light Moon > is reflecting, this > karaka tithi shows the phase of individual > consciousness and > how much of the light held by the soul is reflected > by the consciousness. > > As per tradition, this karaka tithi is supposed to > be important for > the native's spirituality. It throws light into the > purpose of > creation of the person. Its lord controls the > spiritual well-being of > the person. > > In the charts of most of the mystics, you will find > an association > between the lord of the karaka tithi and the 8th > house in D-20 or > atleast navamsa. " > > I have no idea what Karaka yoga is supposed to be. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > jyotisa , Venkatesh S > <ksvssvk> wrote: > > JAI SRIRAM > > Dear Members, > > > > What is the > significant > > role of karaka tithi and karaka yoga which in the > > version Jh7.03? > > > > Thanks, > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| Dear Lakshmi Sent another mail on this. How about checking this for the charts of Vivekananda and others. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * jyotisa [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi RameshSunday, July 17, 2005 5:01 PMjyotisa Subject: Re: Jh7.03 Om Gurave NamahNamaste Venkatesh,Here is what Narasimha garu has to say about Karaka tithi...taken fromhis mail on Kundalini Awakening."As you correctly suspected, Atma karaka is very important. It is thruthe individual soul that one's consciousness perceives the universal soul.While Sun and Moon show the universal soul and the mind, I was taughtthat atma karaka (AK) and amatya karaka (AmK) show the individual souland the individual consciousness. Just as you find a tithi from thelongitudes of Sun and Moon, you can find a "karaka tithi" from thelongitudes of AK and AmK. Just as the normal tithi physically showsthe phase of Moon and how much of Sun's light Moon is reflecting, thiskaraka tithi shows the phase of individual consciousness andhow much of the light held by the soul is reflected by the consciousness.As per tradition, this karaka tithi is supposed to be important forthe native's spirituality. It throws light into the purpose ofcreation of the person. Its lord controls the spiritual well-being ofthe person.In the charts of most of the mystics, you will find an associationbetween the lord of the karaka tithi and the 8th house in D-20 oratleast navamsa."I have no idea what Karaka yoga is supposed to be.Regards,Lakshmijyotisa , Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:> JAI SRIRAM> Dear Members,> > What is the significant> role of karaka tithi and karaka yoga which in the> version Jh7.03?> > Thanks,> S.Venkatesh> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sanjay ji, I checked up your chart too and found that jupiter, your AmK, is the lord of karaka tithi and is associated with 8th house in D-20, so your route to spirituality is through your profession as teacher. I went through Narasimha's chart too and his karaka tithi lord (Jupiter again) is associated with 8th house both in navamsa and vimsamsa. Jupiter is Narasimha garu's putrakaraka, so can it be said that his spiritual aspirations will fructify with the advent of a sishya of the stature of Swami Vivekananda? Or am i totally wrong in my analysis? I request your clarifications. Regards, Lakshmi --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Guruji, > > Thanks for your clarification and yes, I did read > your > article on amatya karaka and liked it and learnt > from > it immensely. > > Similar to raja sambandha yoga, extending the same > logic to AK & BK, can one check for guru sambandha > yoga? > > This might be really relevant in charts like that of > Vivekananda where Karaka Tithi is lorded by BK > (saturn), and indeed it is indeed Sri Ramakrishna, > who > is mainly responsible for the native's social > elevation > and spiritual emancipation. Interestingly in Sri > Ramakrishna's chart, Karaka tithi is ruled by Putra > Karaka (vivekananda)...Saturn again! In Ramana > Maharshi's chart Jupiter lords the karaka tithi and > he > is pitri karaka. No wonder the call of > Arunachaleshwara had been irresistible for Sri > Ramana > who is considered to be an incarnation of Skandha! I > will check some more spiritual charts too and report > back... though i have the sneaking suspicion that > you have done all this exercise before and yet > wanted > me to go through it so that we all can learn:--)) > > As Narasimha garu had stated, the lord of Karaka > Tithi > does invariably have some kind of association with > the > 8th house in vimsamsa...though not always in > navamsa. > But in the few charts I have verified, Saturn has > always been associated with the 8th house in D-20! > > Thanks & regards, > Lakshmi > > > > --- Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: > > > > > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| > > Dear Lakshmi > > Did you read my article on amatyakaraka? Raja > > sambandha yoga is the > > relationship between the amatyakaraka and the > > atmakaraka. The tithi is used > > in Jyotish for all relationships as it is the > ruler > > of Jala tatwa. So the > > lord of the tithi between the AK and AmK will show > > when this raja sambandha > > yoga should occur. That is some more research I am > > doing and Narasimha put > > it in the software for our experimentation. > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , > > +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > jyotisa > > [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of > > lakshmi ramesh > > Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:32 PM > > jyotisa > > Re: Re: Jh7.03 > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Venkatesh, > > > > I think Karaka Yoga is similar to " yoga " between > Sun > > and moon, but instead of them, the calculation is > > based upon the longitudes of AK and AmK. > > > > I am totally blank about the significance of this > > yoga. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > --- B Lakshmi Ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh > > wrote: > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh, > > > > > > Here is what Narasimha garu has to say about > > Karaka > > > tithi...taken from > > > his mail on Kundalini Awakening. > > > > > > " As you correctly suspected, Atma karaka is very > > > important. It is thru > > > the individual soul that one's consciousness > > > perceives the universal soul. > > > > > > While Sun and Moon show the universal soul and > the > > > mind, I was taught > > > that atma karaka (AK) and amatya karaka (AmK) > show > > > the individual soul > > > and the individual consciousness. Just as you > find > > a > > > tithi from the > > > longitudes of Sun and Moon, you can find a > " karaka > > > tithi " from the > > > longitudes of AK and AmK. Just as the normal > tithi > > > physically shows > > > the phase of Moon and how much of Sun's light > Moon > > > is reflecting, this > > > karaka tithi shows the phase of individual > > > consciousness and > > > how much of the light held by the soul is > > reflected > > > by the consciousness. > > > > > > As per tradition, this karaka tithi is supposed > to > > > be important for > > > the native's spirituality. It throws light into > > the > > > purpose of > > > creation of the person. Its lord controls the > > > spiritual well-being of > > > the person. > > > > > > In the charts of most of the mystics, you will > > find > > > an association > > > between the lord of the karaka tithi and the 8th > > > house in D-20 or > > > atleast navamsa. " > > > > > > I have no idea what Karaka yoga is supposed to > be. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotisa , Venkatesh S > > > <ksvssvk> wrote: > > > > JAI SRIRAM > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What is the > > > significant > > > > role of karaka tithi and karaka yoga which in > > the > > > > version Jh7.03? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| Dear Lakshmi You should get hold of my lecture on Amatyakaraka and Darakaraka from SJC-Serbia. What I taught is not in those papers and far more deeper inclding the carakaraka themselves. The spiritual levels or what we refer to as manifestation of spirituality in our lives is done at the three levels of the AK, AmK and BK. See how vivekananda rose because of BK or Guru while I am more of a karma yogi kind or trying to be one by being a teacher of a vedanga as AmK Jupier lords the karaka tithi. In Narasimha's case Jupiter is also the lord of Karaka tithi...does this show knowledge of Jyotish from a previous existance that Narasimha and I carry into this birth? After all what is Karaka tithi? Is it not linking the Atma which continues from one existance into another...let me have your view of say a few more charts and these together. Once again, you cannot even imagine what I talked of in those two lectures ...just get those tapes from Zoran. I just decided to let go with the mantra - om hamsa krom samba-shiva-gurave namah..and my soul opened up to what I had learnt without inhibition or fear or any blocking...just let go as many would say. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * jyotisa [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of lakshmi rameshTuesday, July 19, 2005 6:31 PMjyotisa Subject: RE: Re: Jh7.03 Om Gurave NamahDear Sanjay ji,I checked up your chart too and found that jupiter,your AmK, is the lord of karaka tithi and isassociated with 8th house in D-20, so your route tospirituality is through your profession as teacher.I went through Narasimha's chart too and his karakatithi lord (Jupiter again) is associated with 8thhouse both in navamsa and vimsamsa. Jupiter isNarasimha garu's putrakaraka, so can it be said thathis spiritual aspirations will fructify with theadvent of a sishya of the stature of SwamiVivekananda? Or am i totally wrong in my analysis? I request yourclarifications.Regards,Lakshmi--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Guruji,> > Thanks for your clarification and yes, I did read> your> article on amatya karaka and liked it and learnt> from> it immensely. > > Similar to raja sambandha yoga, extending the same> logic to AK & BK, can one check for guru sambandha> yoga? > > This might be really relevant in charts like that of> Vivekananda where Karaka Tithi is lorded by BK> (saturn), and indeed it is indeed Sri Ramakrishna,> who> is mainly responsible for the native's social> elevation > and spiritual emancipation. Interestingly in Sri> Ramakrishna's chart, Karaka tithi is ruled by Putra> Karaka (vivekananda)...Saturn again! In Ramana> Maharshi's chart Jupiter lords the karaka tithi and> he> is pitri karaka. No wonder the call of> Arunachaleshwara had been irresistible for Sri> Ramana> who is considered to be an incarnation of Skandha! I> will check some more spiritual charts too and report> back... though i have the sneaking suspicion that> you have done all this exercise before and yet> wanted> me to go through it so that we all can learn:--))> > As Narasimha garu had stated, the lord of Karaka> Tithi> does invariably have some kind of association with> the> 8th house in vimsamsa...though not always in> navamsa.> But in the few charts I have verified, Saturn has> always been associated with the 8th house in D-20!> > Thanks & regards,> Lakshmi> > > > --- Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:> > > > > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya|> > Dear Lakshmi> > Did you read my article on amatyakaraka? Raja> > sambandha yoga is the> > relationship between the amatyakaraka and the> > atmakaraka. The tithi is used> > in Jyotish for all relationships as it is the> ruler> > of Jala tatwa. So the> > lord of the tithi between the AK and AmK will show> > when this raja sambandha> > yoga should occur. That is some more research I am> > doing and Narasimha put> > it in the software for our experimentation.> > With best wishes and warm regards,> > Sanjay Rath> > * * *> > Sri Jagannath CenterR> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India> > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> ,> > +91-11-25717162> > * * *> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > jyotisa > > [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of> > lakshmi ramesh> > Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:32 PM> > jyotisa > > Re: Re: Jh7.03> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,> > > > I think Karaka Yoga is similar to "yoga" between> Sun> > and moon, but instead of them, the calculation is> > based upon the longitudes of AK and AmK.> > > > I am totally blank about the significance of this> > yoga.> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > > > --- B Lakshmi Ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> > wrote:> > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,> > > > > > Here is what Narasimha garu has to say about> > Karaka> > > tithi...taken from> > > his mail on Kundalini Awakening.> > > > > > "As you correctly suspected, Atma karaka is very> > > important. It is thru> > > the individual soul that one's consciousness> > > perceives the universal soul.> > > > > > While Sun and Moon show the universal soul and> the> > > mind, I was taught> > > that atma karaka (AK) and amatya karaka (AmK)> show> > > the individual soul> > > and the individual consciousness. Just as you> find> > a> > > tithi from the> > > longitudes of Sun and Moon, you can find a> "karaka> > > tithi" from the> > > longitudes of AK and AmK. Just as the normal> tithi> > > physically shows> > > the phase of Moon and how much of Sun's light> Moon> > > is reflecting, this> > > karaka tithi shows the phase of individual> > > consciousness and> > > how much of the light held by the soul is> > reflected> > > by the consciousness.> > > > > > As per tradition, this karaka tithi is supposed> to> > > be important for> > > the native's spirituality. It throws light into> > the> > > purpose of> > > creation of the person. Its lord controls the> > > spiritual well-being of> > > the person.> > > > > > In the charts of most of the mystics, you will> > find> > > an association> > > between the lord of the karaka tithi and the 8th> > > house in D-20 or> > > atleast navamsa."> > > > > > I have no idea what Karaka yoga is supposed to> be.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotisa , Venkatesh S> > > <ksvssvk> wrote:> > > > JAI SRIRAM> > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > What is the> > > significant> > > > role of karaka tithi and karaka yoga which in> > the> > > > version Jh7.03?> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > S.Venkatesh> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === __Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Guruji, My respects to you and the guru parampara on this auspicious day of Guru Poornima. Guruji, from the way you have described, I think your presentation must have been really an amazing and beautiful outpouring and I can't wait to hear it. I am sure Zoran will have the CDs ready in no time and I will be one of the first persons to get them. Yes, from Jupiter's association with karaka tithi, it definitely follows that you, Narasimha and Partha all have a long attachment to jyotish, which must have spanned several life times. I have Mars, my AK lording my actual tithi and karaka tithi too. He appears to be my janma vighati graha as well. It looks as though I have brought in a lot of fire and energy from my previous existences! There seems to be no escaping my AK! Regards, Lakshmi --- Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| > Dear Lakshmi > You should get hold of my lecture on Amatyakaraka > and Darakaraka from > SJC-Serbia. What I taught is not in those papers and > far more deeper > inclding the carakaraka themselves. The spiritual > levels or what we refer to > as manifestation of spirituality in our lives is > done at the three levels of > the AK, AmK and BK. See how vivekananda rose because > of BK or Guru while I > am more of a karma yogi kind or trying to be one by > being a teacher of a > vedanga as AmK Jupier lords the karaka tithi. > In Narasimha's case Jupiter is also the lord of > Karaka tithi...does this > show knowledge of Jyotish from a previous existance > that Narasimha and I > carry into this birth? After all what is Karaka > tithi? Is it not linking the > Atma which continues from one existance into > another...let me have your view > of say a few more charts and these together. > > Once again, you cannot even imagine what I talked of > in those two lectures > ...just get those tapes from Zoran. I just decided > to let go with the mantra > - > om hamsa krom samba-shiva-gurave namah..and my soul > opened up to what I had > learnt without inhibition or fear or any > blocking...just let go as many > would say. > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , > +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > > _____ > > jyotisa > [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of > lakshmi ramesh > Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:31 PM > jyotisa > RE: Re: Jh7.03 > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > I checked up your chart too and found that jupiter, > your AmK, is the lord of karaka tithi and is > associated with 8th house in D-20, so your route to > spirituality is through your profession as teacher. > > I went through Narasimha's chart too and his karaka > tithi lord (Jupiter again) is associated with 8th > house both in navamsa and vimsamsa. Jupiter is > Narasimha garu's putrakaraka, so can it be said that > his spiritual aspirations will fructify with the > advent of a sishya of the stature of Swami > Vivekananda? > > Or am i totally wrong in my analysis? I request your > clarifications. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh > wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Guruji, > > > > Thanks for your clarification and yes, I did read > > your > > article on amatya karaka and liked it and learnt > > from > > it immensely. > > > > Similar to raja sambandha yoga, extending the same > > logic to AK & BK, can one check for guru sambandha > > yoga? > > > > This might be really relevant in charts like that > of > > Vivekananda where Karaka Tithi is lorded by BK > > (saturn), and indeed it is indeed Sri Ramakrishna, > > who > > is mainly responsible for the native's social > > elevation > > and spiritual emancipation. Interestingly in Sri > > Ramakrishna's chart, Karaka tithi is ruled by > Putra > > Karaka (vivekananda)...Saturn again! In Ramana > > Maharshi's chart Jupiter lords the karaka tithi > and > > he > > is pitri karaka. No wonder the call of > > Arunachaleshwara had been irresistible for Sri > > Ramana > > who is considered to be an incarnation of Skandha! > I > > will check some more spiritual charts too and > report > > back... though i have the sneaking suspicion > that > > you have done all this exercise before and yet > > wanted > > me to go through it so that we all can learn:--)) > > > > As Narasimha garu had stated, the lord of Karaka > > Tithi > > does invariably have some kind of association with > > the > > 8th house in vimsamsa...though not always in > > navamsa. > > But in the few charts I have verified, Saturn has > > always been associated with the 8th house in D-20! > > > > Thanks & regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > --- Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| > > > Dear Lakshmi > > > Did you read my article on amatyakaraka? Raja > > > sambandha yoga is the > > > relationship between the amatyakaraka and the > > > atmakaraka. The tithi is used > > > in Jyotish for all relationships as it is the > > ruler > > > of Jala tatwa. So the > > > lord of the tithi between the AK and AmK will > show > > > when this raja sambandha > > > yoga should occur. That is some more research I > am > > > doing and Narasimha put > > > it in the software for our experimentation. > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > * * * > > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , > > > +91-11-25717162 > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > jyotisa > > > [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:32 PM > > > jyotisa > > > Re: Re: Jh7.03 > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh, > > > > > > I think Karaka Yoga is similar to " yoga " between > > Sun > > > and moon, but instead of them, the calculation > is > > > based upon the longitudes of AK and AmK. > > > > > > I am totally blank about the significance of > this > > > yoga. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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