Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Dear Sanjay, I concur. I had a quick lookup through Panchanga Tantra and found nothing to contradict what you've cited, which confirms that I'd got it wrong all along. Sorry for making you go on a spin on this ) Respects, Ramapriya ayirpamar On 7/19/05, sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: || Gurave Namah ||Namaste Ramapriya,Please refer Prashna Marga translated by Dr. BV Raman. In Volume 1, Page 152.Dr BV Raman Says " There are 248 vakyas (Vakyas are astronomical formula given in terse sanskrit sutras) for the Moon giving its anamolies which enable one to find the geocentric longitude of the Moon at sunrise on any day. These are called lunar Vakyas. These Vakyas or formulae are very much in use even today in certain parts of Kerala for the determination of the position of the Moon, Nakshatra and tithi on any particular day. The difference (as alluded to in stanza 3 and 7) between 2 consecutive vakyas gives the orbital velocity of that particular planet at sunset..... " This also proves that the tithi changes at the same instant at all places on earth (Since it's now independant of the location on surface of earth). And therefore tithi is Global measure of time. Tithi is hence like Global mean time in Jyotish. Unlike lagna which indicates time past since sunrise/sunset at given location.(This I am writting for another question arising in Vedic-Astrology). Warm RegardsSAnjay PHari Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Jai SriRama Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Venkatesh, Vaakya here means Mathemetical formula. All mathemetical formulas can mean Vaakya. This statement particularly talks about 248 Mathematics formulas to get the correct Geocentric positions of moon from the observed positions. I do not have these exact ancient formulaes. Nowadays there are enough softwares and modern mathematical formulas easily available to get exact geocentric positions easily. Please Note that When a body is exactly overhead the geocentic corrections are not needed. So for Latitudes, Longitudes, and times when body is not exactly overhead the Corrections are needed. I think there is some confusion between Vaakya(statement) or Vaag(word/speach). Warm regards Sanjay P Hari Om Tat Sat jyotisa , " ksvssvk " <ksvssvk> wrote: > JAI SRIRAM > Dear Sanjay P > Do you have that Vakya sutras.Please check the > planetry positions by this Vakya and other ayanamsas like drik,lahiri > etc and tell me which is perfect?I am sure vakya and drik has > a lot of differences in planetry positions especially fast moving > planet mercury and slow moving planet saturn.Dr Raman has his own > ayanamsa then do you know why he refers this Vakya calculations? > > For sunrise definition have you noticed by this Vakya siddantha,i > checked for my birth details it supports Shri Narashima's view that > option (A) in Jhora center of sun's disk. > > Most importantly based on this Vakya saturn transist and other plantes > transists like jupiter,rahu and ketu celebrated in all the Lord Shiva > temples in Tamilnadu. > > Thanks, > S.Venkatesh > jyotisa , " sanjayprabhakaran " > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > || Gurave Namah || > > Namaste Ramapriya, > > Please refer Prashna Marga translated by Dr. BV Raman. > > In Volume 1, Page 152. > > Dr BV Raman Says > > " There are 248 vakyas (Vakyas are astronomical formula given in > > terse sanskrit sutras) for the Moon giving its anamolies which > > enable one to find the geocentric longitude of the Moon at sunrise > > on any day. These are called lunar Vakyas. These Vakyas or formulae > > are very much in use even today in certain parts of Kerala for the > > determination of the position of the Moon, Nakshatra and tithi on > > any particular day. The difference (as alluded to in stanza 3 and 7) > > between 2 consecutive vakyas gives the orbital velocity of that > > particular planet at sunset..... " > > > > This also proves that the tithi changes at the same instant at all > > places on earth (Since it's now independant of the location on > > surface of earth). And therefore tithi is Global measure of time. > > Tithi is hence like Global mean time in Jyotish. Unlike lagna which > > indicates time past since sunrise/sunset at given location.(This I > > am writting for another question arising in Vedic-Astrology). > > > > Warm Regards > > SAnjay P > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotisa , " Guru Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| > > > Go ahead Ramapriya and become the next Rishi after Vishwamitra to > > define the > > > skies and start another Jyotish system > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > * * * > > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > jyotisa [jyotisa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > Ramapriya D > > > Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:24 AM > > > jyotisa > > > Re: JH settings > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Sanjay... I was actually expecting you to have a go over > > the sunrise > > > setting not being at the center of the disk ) > > > > > > Though there are good known reasons for choosing geocentric, why > > not topo? > > > And are you aware of any classical reference that gives a > > particular point > > > in the sky that's regarded as the commencement of Aswini? > > > > > > Respects, > > > > > > Ramapriya > > > ayirpamar@g... > > > > > > On 7/16/05, Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| > > > Dear Ramapriya > > > Change the first option to " Geocentric " ...pleaseeee > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > * * * > > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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