Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Sanjay Ji, Pranams Happy Guru Pournima. On the discussion so far we had on Karaka Tithi, i have a doubt. Please clear my doubt. While AK & Amk together give a Raja Sambandha yoga, they being together in one rasi, within 12 degrees, gives the karaka tithi ruler as Rahu. Is this to be taken as total darkeness or the small spark of atma shining brightly in the totality of darkness that Rahu represents. Also, what if this Rahu happens to be BK in the chart and is being replaced by Sun (MK)? (i'm talking about my chart, and completing 45 by next January ) Many thanks & kind regards Suryaviswanadham jyotisa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@c...> wrote: > Dear Sanjay, > > Pranaams and happy Guru Pournima! Thank you so much for all the knowledge you have given me and will give! > > I was looking at Karaka Tithi. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Swami Vivekananda both had Krishna Saptami tithi ruled by Saturn. > > Dr. B.V. Raman, you, my father and I all have Sukla Panchami tithi ruled by Jupiter (I am glad I share the tithi not just with you, but with all my three gurus!). Prof. P.S. Sastri has Krishna Trayodasi tithi ruled by Jupiter. > > However, is this significant? What kind of conclusions can we draw just based on tithi and lord? Shouldn't we see how the planet ruling the tithi is placed in various vargas? I know good astrologers whose Karaka tithi is ruled by Venus or Moon or Sun or Rahu. > > What about the role of Kalachakra? Can we check the planets influencing the Karaka tithi in Kalachakra? If we do, should we prepare the Kalachakra with the nakshatra of Sun in east or that of AK or that of lagna or that of AmK? > > Also, can we pray to the Nitya form of the Divine Mother corresponding to the Karaka tithi? For example, you and I have Sukla Panchami. So can we worship Mother Vahni Vasini (one who lives in Fire and purifies things) who is associated with Panchami tithi? > > The way I look at it is that AK shows soul and AmK is shows consciousness (you taught that AK was the higher abstraction of mind). Just as normal tithi shows the phase of Moon and how much light of Sun is reflected by Moon, I think that karaka tithi shows the phase of higher consciousness and how much of soul's light is reflected by it. > > One last question: You taught me planetary tithis by using the angles between Sun and various planets (not just Moon). How about using the angle between AK and BK and finding bhatri karaka tithi? What is its purpose? I see that people like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Vivekananda, Ramana Maharshi you and I, who found brilliant gurus who made their lives meaningful, have the tithi lorded by either AK himself or by BK. What does it mean? > > I am leaving all the lists to give a final push to the TP book. So I will be totally off from the lists from Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. If you dig the sunrise verse of Varahamihira by then, we can discuss it after Janmashtami. > > Can you cc the reply to pvr@c...? > > Your grateful sishya, > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| Dear Vishwanadham Rahu is good for Rajayoga With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * jyotisa [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of vishwanathamThursday, July 21, 2005 3:05 PMjyotisa Subject: Karaka Tithi Questions to Sanjay Hare Rama KrishnaDear Sanjay Ji, PranamsHappy Guru Pournima.On the discussion so far we had on Karaka Tithi, i have a doubt. Please clear my doubt.While AK & Amk together give a Raja Sambandha yoga, they being together in one rasi, within 12 degrees, gives the karaka tithi ruler as Rahu.Is this to be taken as total darkeness or the small spark of atma shining brightly in the totality of darkness that Rahu represents.Also, what if this Rahu happens to be BK in the chart and is being replaced by Sun (MK)? (i'm talking about my chart, and completing 45 by next January ) Many thanks & kind regardsSuryaviswanadhamjyotisa , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:> Dear Sanjay,> > Pranaams and happy Guru Pournima! Thank you so much for all the knowledge you have given me and will give!> > I was looking at Karaka Tithi. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Swami Vivekananda both had Krishna Saptami tithi ruled by Saturn.> > Dr. B.V. Raman, you, my father and I all have Sukla Panchami tithi ruled by Jupiter (I am glad I share the tithi not just with you, but with all my three gurus!). Prof. P.S. Sastri has Krishna Trayodasi tithi ruled by Jupiter.> > However, is this significant? What kind of conclusions can we draw just based on tithi and lord? Shouldn't we see how the planet ruling the tithi is placed in various vargas? I know good astrologers whose Karaka tithi is ruled by Venus or Moon or Sun or Rahu.> > What about the role of Kalachakra? Can we check the planets influencing the Karaka tithi in Kalachakra? If we do, should we prepare the Kalachakra with the nakshatra of Sun in east or that of AK or that of lagna or that of AmK?> > Also, can we pray to the Nitya form of the Divine Mother corresponding to the Karaka tithi? For example, you and I have Sukla Panchami. So can we worship Mother Vahni Vasini (one who lives in Fire and purifies things) who is associated with Panchami tithi?> > The way I look at it is that AK shows soul and AmK is shows consciousness (you taught that AK was the higher abstraction of mind). Just as normal tithi shows the phase of Moon and how much light of Sun is reflected by Moon, I think that karaka tithi shows the phase of higher consciousness and how much of soul's light is reflected by it.> > One last question: You taught me planetary tithis by using the angles between Sun and various planets (not just Moon). How about using the angle between AK and BK and finding bhatri karaka tithi? What is its purpose? I see that people like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Vivekananda, Ramana Maharshi you and I, who found brilliant gurus who made their lives meaningful, have the tithi lorded by either AK himself or by BK. What does it mean?> > I am leaving all the lists to give a final push to the TP book. So I will be totally off from the lists from Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. If you dig the sunrise verse of Varahamihira by then, we can discuss it after Janmashtami.> > Can you cc the reply to pvr@c...?> > Your grateful sishya,> Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Sanjay Ji, Pranams Thanks for our reply. There is more to my query, which was not clear from my last mail. When Amk, reaches ( like when Moon is chasing the Sun and the story of dwadasa adityas) Ak, close enough, Amk replaces AK and the result is a karma yogi. Is my understading correct. Then the karaka tithi ruler will be Rahu. In case of Amavasya, it results in creation and hence Rahu's role as the ruler of Amavasya tithi. In the present case of Karaka tithi ruler, it is again paving for material benefits, as per your reply. i seek your kind clarification on the 'karma yogi', resulting from chara AK replacement, which happens to be on Karaka tithi of Amavasya. Is it to be treated as a Raja Yoga? Many thanks & regards Viswanadham On 7/21/05, Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| > Dear Vishwanadham > Rahu is good for Rajayoga > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath Center® > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > ________________________________ > jyotisa [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of > vishwanatham > Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:05 PM > jyotisa > Karaka Tithi Questions to Sanjay > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Sanjay Ji, Pranams > > Happy Guru Pournima. > > On the discussion so far we had on Karaka Tithi, i have a doubt. > Please clear my doubt. > > While AK & Amk together give a Raja Sambandha yoga, they being > together in one rasi, within 12 degrees, gives the karaka tithi ruler > as Rahu. > > Is this to be taken as total darkeness or the small spark of atma > shining brightly in the totality of darkness that Rahu represents. > > Also, what if this Rahu happens to be BK in the chart and is being > replaced by Sun (MK)? (i'm talking about my chart, and completing 45 > by next January ) > > Many thanks & kind regards > > Suryaviswanadham > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Hare RAma Krishna Namaste Viswanadham and Guruji, My understanding is given below, > In case of Amavasya, it results in creation and hence Rahu's role as > the ruler of Amavasya tithi. > > In the present case of Karaka tithi ruler, it is again paving for > material benefits, as per your reply. Sanjay P: Rahu need not indicate just material benefits. If you do so then Ketu would indicate the other extreme. But, Ketu rules no tithi. So no thithi will be conducive to spirituality?. In Vedic astrology there is no seperate ruler for two opposites. Both opposites are ruled by the same diety or indicator. But different dieties can control each other. As an example there is House for Dharma, 9th. There is no house for Adharma. When 9th gets afflicted we get Adharma. Another example, Sun has two wife, Sanjana(Light maker) and Chaaya (Shadow). So Both Light and Shadow are from same source the Surya devata. It's upto the observer(moon) now to see the difference. Now, When Rahu was created at the same time Ketu was created. Thus Rahu's other side Ketu spirituality is also create. So Rahu ruled tithi can show extreme spirituality also. > i seek your kind clarification on the 'karma yogi', resulting from > chara AK replacement, which happens to be on Karaka tithi of Amavasya. > Is it to be treated as a Raja Yoga? Sanjay P : This is a good question. I would take the replace tithi to see what changes in Life the replaced tithi lord indicates and predict the same at the time of replacement. I would like other views. Warm Regards Sanjay P > > Many thanks & regards > Viswanadham > > > > > On 7/21/05, Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya| > > Dear Vishwanadham > > Rahu is good for Rajayoga > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > ________________________________ > > jyotisa [jyotisa ] On Behalf Of > > vishwanatham > > Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:05 PM > > jyotisa > > Karaka Tithi Questions to Sanjay > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Sanjay Ji, Pranams > > > > Happy Guru Pournima. > > > > On the discussion so far we had on Karaka Tithi, i have a doubt. > > Please clear my doubt. > > > > While AK & Amk together give a Raja Sambandha yoga, they being > > together in one rasi, within 12 degrees, gives the karaka tithi ruler > > as Rahu. > > > > Is this to be taken as total darkeness or the small spark of atma > > shining brightly in the totality of darkness that Rahu represents. > > > > Also, what if this Rahu happens to be BK in the chart and is being > > replaced by Sun (MK)? (i'm talking about my chart, and completing 45 > > by next January ) > > > > Many thanks & kind regards > > > > Suryaviswanadham > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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