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|| Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

 

Dear Jyothishas,Gurus,Elders,

 

Today is Sri Hayagriva Jayanthi.My humble pranams

to all of you on this holy day.May the VEDA

Moorthy,Sri Lakshmi Hayagriva bless all of us with the

great knowledge and wisdom of all the vedas and

vedangas.

 

Attached is the Picture of Sri YOGA Hayagriva who

resides in Thiruvageentha-puram(Tamil Nadu),Place

where Sri Desika has got the darshan of Sri Hayagriva.

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Humble Regards,

 

krithi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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|| Haya Mukha Siddhirastu ||

 

Namaste Krithi,

Thank you for picture gift. May we get direct knowledege from the horses mouth :)

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

Dear Jyothishas,Gurus,Elders,

 

Today is Sri Hayagriva Jayanthi.My humble pranams

to all of you on this holy day.May the VEDA

Moorthy,Sri Lakshmi Hayagriva bless all of us with the

great knowledge and wisdom of all the vedas and

vedangas.

 

 

Attached is the Picture of Sri YOGA Hayagriva who

resides in Thiruvageentha-puram(Tamil Nadu),Place

where Sri Desika has got the darshan of Sri Hayagriva.

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Humble Regards,

 

krithi

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Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam spatikaakritham

Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam upasmahe

 

Dear Krithi

 

Thanks for the picture. I had recently been to an ancient temple in

Chettypunyam near Chennai where I had a wonderful darshan of Yoga

Hayagrivar.

 

SanjayP: Are you aware of any specific planets to indicate Hayagrivar

as Ishta devata? Have you come across any specific combinations?

 

Best wishes

R. Kasthuri Rangan

 

 

Sanjay Prabhakaran wrote:

|| Haya Mukha Siddhirastu ||

 

Namaste Krithi,

Thank you for picture gift. May we get direct knowledege from the

horses mouth :)

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

 

Dear

Jyothishas,Gurus,Elders,

 

Today is Sri Hayagriva Jayanthi.My humble pranams

to all of you on this holy day.May the VEDA

Moorthy,Sri Lakshmi Hayagriva bless all of us with the

great knowledge and wisdom of all the vedas and

vedangas.

 

 

 

 

Attached is the Picture of Sri YOGA Hayagriva who

resides in Thiruvageentha-puram(Tamil Nadu),Place

where Sri Desika has got the darshan of Sri Hayagriva.

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Humble Regards,

 

krithi

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` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Krithi,

Thanks and very well said about Shri Hayagriva.

In our Madhva system,in Udipi Lord Krishna is worshipped by eight Mathadhipathis once every two years.Out of the Ashta Maths, Sode Math is one of them and Shri Vadiraj Swamiji is the founder of this math and follower of Shri Madhvacharya.He worshipped Lord Hayagriva,a form of Lord Vishnu with head of a Horse.Shri Vadiraj Swamiji's worship for Shri Hayagriva was so much that everyday HE appeared in front of Swamiji and ate the Horsegram Naivedyam which was offered to the Lord.

By worshipping Lord Hayagriva,one will get highest from of knowledge. Here is the Mantra :

hy¢Iv m<Ç>

` ïI— ’aE< ` nmae Égvte hy¢Ivay iv:[ve mý< mexa< àJna< àyCD Svaha,

hayagréva mantraù

om çréà hlaum om namo bhagavate hayagréväya viñëave mahyaà medhäà prajnäà prayaccha svähä|

I hope this helps all.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

Krithigaivasan R <krithi_hayagriva wrote:

|| Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||Dear Jyothishas,Gurus,Elders, Today is Sri Hayagriva Jayanthi.My humble pranamsto all of you on this holy day.May the VEDAMoorthy,Sri Lakshmi Hayagriva bless all of us with thegreat knowledge and wisdom of all the vedas andvedangas. Attached is the Picture of Sri YOGA Hayagriva whoresides in Thiruvageentha-puram(Tamil Nadu),Placewhere Sri Desika has got the darshan of Sri Hayagriva.|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Humble Regards,krithi __Send a rakhi to your brother, buy gifts and win attractive prizes. Log on to http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Krithi & Sanjay,

 

A few more slokas in praise of Sri Hayagriva...

 

1)Vidyaamoorthimakhanda chandra valaya

swetaaravindasthitham

hridyaabham sphatikaadri nirmala tanum vidyotamaanam

sriyaa

vaamaankasthitha vallabhaam prathi sadaavyaakhyaantha

maamnaaya vaa-

garthaanaadimapoorusham hayamukham dhyaayaami

hamsaathmakam

 

2) vyaakhyamudraam karasarasijaih pusthakam sankha

chakre

bibhradbhinna sphatika ruchire pundarike nishannah

aamlaana sriramrita vishadairamsubhih plaavayanmaam

aavirbhooyaadanaghamahimaa maanase vaagadheesah.

 

The above two shlokas expressly talk about the

effulgence, the transparency, and the hamsa tattwa of

Sri Hayagriva....which are primarily qualitities of

sattwa guna. Does the combination of Ketu+Mercury

indicate the above qualities? Further, Ketu is

supposed to impede eloquence and Sri Hayagriva is

specifically referred to as " pratilasadvaagdevathaa

mandalo " !

 

Sun, on the other hand, indicates both " head " and "

horse " (he became a horse to win back the affection of

his estranged wife) and is exalted in the " ashwini "

nakshatra. He is synonymous with light, vedas, soul,

sattwa guna, consciousness and pure intelligence. He

is the Hamsa and the original remover of darkness

(Guru).Ofcourse, These qualities are applicable to

both Sri Dakshina Moorthy and Sri Hayagriva.

 

But, there is a fine distinction. Whi Sri Dakshina

Moorthy's preferred mode of communication is pregnant

silence (according to Sanjay ji Sun+Rahu- indicating

inhibited expression- along with a strong Jupiter

constitute Dakshinamoorthy yoga in a chart),I think

Sri Hayagriva signifies " speech " (Vaagadheesah) as

medium of communication. Also keeping in mind that Sri

Hayagriva is Vishnu roopa, I feel Sun + Mercury

combination (nipuna yoga) which bestows a naturally

agile & expressive intellect, is more indicative of

Sri Hayagriva. The term " Viswaatma " (viswaatmaa visada

prabhaa...) also can serve as a pointer to the

frequent occurrence of this yoga in most of the

charts. Association of this combination with 9th

house/Jupiter might highlight a more pervasive

influence of Sri Hayagriva in a chart.

 

Sanjay, i think " aadhaaram " here means the " base " or

" basis " . Also, the phrase " nirmala sphatikaakritim " is

more intended as a description of the Lord as the

manifestation of " pure reflection/consciousness "

rather than as " nirmalam " and " sphatikaakritim " .

Ofcourse, i could be wrong and am willing to be

corrected.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

--- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

wrote:

 

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Namaste Krithi,

>

> Before I comment further on the chart, Let me do a

> small attempt in

> understanding the Shloka you gave,

>

> > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> spatikaakritham

> > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> upasmahe "

>

> Gyaanaanada = Gyana(Knowledge) + Ananda(Happiness)

> Maaya = Creation, maayaM = To the One who creates

> Happiness in

> Knowledge.

> devaM = To the Divine One, (In form of Light)

> NiramalaM = To The Pure/Soft One,

> SphaTika+akritham = To the one in form of Clear

> Crystal.

> AadaraM = To the one who gives Proof/Substratum,

> Sarva Vidyaanam = To all Knowledge,

> Hayagreevam = To Haya(Horse) + GriivaM(Necked) one,

> Upasmahe = I Respectfully Approach/ I Surrender.

>

>

> > Here are my birth details,

> > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid night

> of 7th Aug 1977)

> > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> > Longitude : 79 E 42

> > Latitude : 11 N 6

>

> In Your Chart, Lets first understand the most

> important Yogas,

> All Planets Fall in the Path from Rahu to Ketu,

> Hence the Nodes play

> an important Role.

>

> Hence, The role of nodes till the age of 43 should

> not be

> ignored.Influence of the nodes can make a person

> either very spiritual

> or opposite, Since the nodes try to give extreme

> experience.

>

> To understand further. In your case you have Navamsa

> Lagna in 12th

> from Ak Saturn, Moon in Navamsa of Saturn etc hence

> can give more

> inclination for higher knowledge, penance, hard work

> etc.

>

> Moreover Note that your Kaaraka tithi is Amavasya

> ruled by Rahu. And

> Rahu is in 8th from Navamsa Lagna, Hence even Rahu

> inclined to give

> more higher knowledge.

>

> Now after understanding that the " direction " of

> nodes is more towards

> Higher knowledge, Between the nodes Ketu is more

> kaaraka for higher

> knowledge. Since for Higher knowledge, First we have

> to understand

> that we are Headless(Hence Know nothing).

>

>

> > > > I always felt happy whenever i pray Sri

> Hayagriva and Sri

> > > > Dhakshinamoorthy.But later i got more attached

> with Sri

> > Hayagriva.At

>

>

> When Mercury, Becomes the teacher. Hayagreeva

> devotion maybe possible.

> In Navamsa (The chart for inner abilities,

> achieved thru many

> births), You have Exalted mercury in 9th, Showing

> your higher teachers

> maybe Mercurial form.

>

> Now to see the Divine form Mercury, Look at Mercury

> in Vimsamsa, It's

> conjoined Ketu. I think your D20 Lagna can also be

> Capricorn, Thus the

> Merc+Ketu combination falls in 12th house for

> meditation. 8th and 12th

> house are very important in D20.

>

> Dakshinaamoorthy is Solar form of Guru and Dattereya

> ( Datta + Atri /

> Moon's Gotra) is Lunar Form of Guru. Try to look for

> Sun's influence

> on Guru indicator or Lagna (One tries to seek

> teacher driven by one's

> character).

>

> > > > In my case,ketu is in Revathi which is

> lorded by Mercury.So it

> > > > takes the head of horse to control my rahu.I

> started learning

> > > > astrology immediatly after the commencement of

> my rahu dasa.My

> > Rahu

>

>

> Yes, A very valid observation.

>

>

> > which

> > > > is the nakshatra dispositor of ketu or it may

> be the planet which

> > > > owns the tatwa of the nakshtra pada where ketu

> is..Association

> > always

> > > > has high preference.

>

>

> Maybe, Sanjayji is pointing to association with

> Prithvi tatwa. Since

> Pritvi tatwa is ruled by Mercury. Now If you note

> the Rajju of Revathi

> Nakshatra it falls in Pada(Feet) rajju, ruled by

> Pritvi Tatwa.

>

> I think there is another table also to reckon Tatwa

> based on Nakshatra

> Pada. Hopefully someone will present that.

>

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

> Hare Rama Krishna.

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Krithigaivasan

> Radhakrishnan "

> <krithi_hayagriva> wrote:

> > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> >

> > Dear SanjayP,

> >

> > Namaskarams !

> >

> > Here are my birth details,

> >

> > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> >

> > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid night

> of 7th Aug 1977)

> >

> > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> >

> > Longitude : 79 E 42

> >

> > Latitude : 11 N 6

> >

> >

> > Please let me know your observations.

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > krithi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa ,

> " sanjayprabhakaran "

> > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > Namaste Krithi,

> > > Since you have so much bhakti for Hayagreeva,

> can you please give

> > > your birth details?.

> > > Thank you

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Sanjay P

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Krithigaivasan

> Radhakrishnan "

> > > <krithi_hayagriva> wrote:

> > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskarams !

> > > >

> > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> spatikaakritham

> > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> upasmahe "

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

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||Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

 

Dear SanjayP,

 

Namaskarams !

 

The slokam under discussion is the first sloka

among the collections of 33 slokams of Sri Hayagriva

Stothiram by Sri Desigar.

 

Very well explained about the slokam and i think

the word " AdaraM " means the ROOT/STARTING POINT as Sri

Hayagriva is the starting point or root of all the

vedas.I am not good in understanding sanskrit,just i

wrote what i thought.

 

Regarding your observations on my chart,really very

valid observations and thanks for spending your

valuable time on this.Particularly, the observation

about my karaka thithi and role of rahu in boosting up

my spirituality is simply great and sounds good.

 

> Maybe, Sanjayji is pointing to association with

> Prithvi tatwa. Since

> Pritvi tatwa is ruled by Mercury. Now If you note

> the Rajju of Revathi

> Nakshatra it falls in Pada(Feet) rajju, ruled by

> Pritvi Tatwa.

>

> I think there is another table also to reckon Tatwa

> based on Nakshatra

> Pada. Hopefully someone will present that.

>

 

 

Yes.Sanjayji was telling something about the

placement of ketu in the nakshtra pada which is

assiged to prithivi tatwa.I remember that all the 4

padas of a nakshtra is assigned with a tatwa each.Only

agni,jala,prithivi and vayu tatwas are considered for

this assignment.Akash tatwa is not considered here.I

think the order of assignment differs for odd and even

signs.This is what i remember now.As you said only

someone who knows this should present here.

 

 

Could you please write more about rajju's and

tatwas ?

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Best Regards,

 

krithi

 

--- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

wrote:

 

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Namaste Krithi,

>

> Before I comment further on the chart, Let me do a

> small attempt in

> understanding the Shloka you gave,

>

> > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> spatikaakritham

> > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> upasmahe "

>

> Gyaanaanada = Gyana(Knowledge) + Ananda(Happiness)

> Maaya = Creation, maayaM = To the One who creates

> Happiness in

> Knowledge.

> devaM = To the Divine One, (In form of Light)

> NiramalaM = To The Pure/Soft One,

> SphaTika+akritham = To the one in form of Clear

> Crystal.

> AadaraM = To the one who gives Proof/Substratum,

> Sarva Vidyaanam = To all Knowledge,

> Hayagreevam = To Haya(Horse) + GriivaM(Necked) one,

> Upasmahe = I Respectfully Approach/ I Surrender.

>

>

> > Here are my birth details,

> > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid night

> of 7th Aug 1977)

> > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> > Longitude : 79 E 42

> > Latitude : 11 N 6

>

> In Your Chart, Lets first understand the most

> important Yogas,

> All Planets Fall in the Path from Rahu to Ketu,

> Hence the Nodes play

> an important Role.

>

> Hence, The role of nodes till the age of 43 should

> not be

> ignored.Influence of the nodes can make a person

> either very spiritual

> or opposite, Since the nodes try to give extreme

> experience.

>

> To understand further. In your case you have Navamsa

> Lagna in 12th

> from Ak Saturn, Moon in Navamsa of Saturn etc hence

> can give more

> inclination for higher knowledge, penance, hard work

> etc.

>

> Moreover Note that your Kaaraka tithi is Amavasya

> ruled by Rahu. And

> Rahu is in 8th from Navamsa Lagna, Hence even Rahu

> inclined to give

> more higher knowledge.

>

> Now after understanding that the " direction " of

> nodes is more towards

> Higher knowledge, Between the nodes Ketu is more

> kaaraka for higher

> knowledge. Since for Higher knowledge, First we have

> to understand

> that we are Headless(Hence Know nothing).

>

>

> > > > I always felt happy whenever i pray Sri

> Hayagriva and Sri

> > > > Dhakshinamoorthy.But later i got more attached

> with Sri

> > Hayagriva.At

>

>

> When Mercury, Becomes the teacher. Hayagreeva

> devotion maybe possible.

> In Navamsa (The chart for inner abilities,

> achieved thru many

> births), You have Exalted mercury in 9th, Showing

> your higher teachers

> maybe Mercurial form.

>

> Now to see the Divine form Mercury, Look at Mercury

> in Vimsamsa, It's

> conjoined Ketu. I think your D20 Lagna can also be

> Capricorn, Thus the

> Merc+Ketu combination falls in 12th house for

> meditation. 8th and 12th

> house are very important in D20.

>

> Dakshinaamoorthy is Solar form of Guru and Dattereya

> ( Datta + Atri /

> Moon's Gotra) is Lunar Form of Guru. Try to look for

> Sun's influence

> on Guru indicator or Lagna (One tries to seek

> teacher driven by one's

> character).

>

> > > > In my case,ketu is in Revathi which is

> lorded by Mercury.So it

> > > > takes the head of horse to control my rahu.I

> started learning

> > > > astrology immediatly after the commencement of

> my rahu dasa.My

> > Rahu

>

>

> Yes, A very valid observation.

>

>

> > which

> > > > is the nakshatra dispositor of ketu or it may

> be the planet which

> > > > owns the tatwa of the nakshtra pada where ketu

> is..Association

> > always

> > > > has high preference.

>

>

> Maybe, Sanjayji is pointing to association with

> Prithvi tatwa. Since

> Pritvi tatwa is ruled by Mercury. Now If you note

> the Rajju of Revathi

> Nakshatra it falls in Pada(Feet) rajju, ruled by

> Pritvi Tatwa.

>

> I think there is another table also to reckon Tatwa

> based on Nakshatra

> Pada. Hopefully someone will present that.

>

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

> Hare Rama Krishna.

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Krithigaivasan

> Radhakrishnan "

> <krithi_hayagriva> wrote:

> > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> >

> > Dear SanjayP,

> >

> > Namaskarams !

> >

> > Here are my birth details,

> >

> > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> >

> > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid night

> of 7th Aug 1977)

> >

> > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> >

> > Longitude : 79 E 42

> >

> > Latitude : 11 N 6

> >

> >

> > Please let me know your observations.

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > krithi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa ,

> " sanjayprabhakaran "

> > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > Namaste Krithi,

> > > Since you have so much bhakti for Hayagreeva,

> can you please give

> > > your birth details?.

> > > Thank you

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Sanjay P

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Krithigaivasan

> Radhakrishnan "

> > > <krithi_hayagriva> wrote:

> > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskarams !

> > > >

> > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> spatikaakritham

> > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> upasmahe "

>

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|| Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

 

Dear Lakshmi ji,

 

Namaskarams !

 

Thanks for sharing these slokas.The second slokam

which you wrote is the main slokam of Sri Hayagriva

Stothiram,which praises the form/appereance of Sri

Lakshmi Hayagriva.

 

Coming to the planetory combination for Sri

Hayagriva,all your points are making me to think a

lot.If we see the picture of Sri Dakshinamoorthy and

Sri Hayagriva,there will be one main difference,Sri

Dakshinamoory will be holding FIRE(SUN)in his left

hand which will not be there in Sri Hayagriva's

hand.May be this FIRE in Sri Dakshinamoorthy's hand

shows the involvement of SUN in Sri Dakshinamoorthy's

planetory combination.Since,Sri Dakshinamoorthy is the

form Shiva(SUN) involvement of Sun is very obvious.

 

But Sri Hayagriva is form of Sri Vishnu..as you said

if sun(shiva) is involved,does'nt it show a spark of

Shiva in Sri Hayagriva ?

 

May be gurudev or some other gurus shall guide us

for better understanding.

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Best Regards,

 

krithi

 

 

 

 

 

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Krithi & Sanjay,

>

> A few more slokas in praise of Sri Hayagriva...

>

> 1)Vidyaamoorthimakhanda chandra valaya

> swetaaravindasthitham

> hridyaabham sphatikaadri nirmala tanum vidyotamaanam

> sriyaa

> vaamaankasthitha vallabhaam prathi

> sadaavyaakhyaantha

> maamnaaya vaa-

> garthaanaadimapoorusham hayamukham dhyaayaami

> hamsaathmakam

>

> 2) vyaakhyamudraam karasarasijaih pusthakam sankha

> chakre

> bibhradbhinna sphatika ruchire pundarike nishannah

> aamlaana sriramrita vishadairamsubhih plaavayanmaam

> aavirbhooyaadanaghamahimaa maanase vaagadheesah.

>

> The above two shlokas expressly talk about the

> effulgence, the transparency, and the hamsa tattwa

> of

> Sri Hayagriva....which are primarily qualitities of

> sattwa guna. Does the combination of Ketu+Mercury

> indicate the above qualities? Further, Ketu is

> supposed to impede eloquence and Sri Hayagriva is

> specifically referred to as " pratilasadvaagdevathaa

> mandalo " !

>

> Sun, on the other hand, indicates both " head " and "

> horse " (he became a horse to win back the affection

> of

> his estranged wife) and is exalted in the " ashwini "

> nakshatra. He is synonymous with light, vedas, soul,

> sattwa guna, consciousness and pure intelligence. He

> is the Hamsa and the original remover of darkness

> (Guru).Ofcourse, These qualities are applicable to

> both Sri Dakshina Moorthy and Sri Hayagriva.

>

> But, there is a fine distinction. Whi Sri Dakshina

> Moorthy's preferred mode of communication is

> pregnant

> silence (according to Sanjay ji Sun+Rahu- indicating

> inhibited expression- along with a strong Jupiter

> constitute Dakshinamoorthy yoga in a chart),I think

> Sri Hayagriva signifies " speech " (Vaagadheesah) as

> medium of communication. Also keeping in mind that

> Sri

> Hayagriva is Vishnu roopa, I feel Sun + Mercury

> combination (nipuna yoga) which bestows a naturally

> agile & expressive intellect, is more indicative of

> Sri Hayagriva. The term " Viswaatma " (viswaatmaa

> visada

> prabhaa...) also can serve as a pointer to the

> frequent occurrence of this yoga in most of the

> charts. Association of this combination with 9th

> house/Jupiter might highlight a more pervasive

> influence of Sri Hayagriva in a chart.

>

> Sanjay, i think " aadhaaram " here means the " base " or

> " basis " . Also, the phrase " nirmala sphatikaakritim "

> is

> more intended as a description of the Lord as the

> manifestation of " pure reflection/consciousness "

> rather than as " nirmalam " and " sphatikaakritim " .

> Ofcourse, i could be wrong and am willing to be

> corrected.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

> --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> wrote:

>

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Namaste Krithi,

> >

> > Before I comment further on the chart, Let me do a

> > small attempt in

> > understanding the Shloka you gave,

> >

> > > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> > spatikaakritham

> > > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> > upasmahe "

> >

> > Gyaanaanada = Gyana(Knowledge) + Ananda(Happiness)

> > Maaya = Creation, maayaM = To the One who creates

> > Happiness in

> > Knowledge.

> > devaM = To the Divine One, (In form of Light)

> > NiramalaM = To The Pure/Soft One,

> > SphaTika+akritham = To the one in form of Clear

> > Crystal.

> > AadaraM = To the one who gives Proof/Substratum,

> > Sarva Vidyaanam = To all Knowledge,

> > Hayagreevam = To Haya(Horse) + GriivaM(Necked)

> one,

> > Upasmahe = I Respectfully Approach/ I Surrender.

> >

> >

> > > Here are my birth details,

> > > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> > > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid

> night

> > of 7th Aug 1977)

> > > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> > > Longitude : 79 E 42

> > > Latitude : 11 N 6

> >

> > In Your Chart, Lets first understand the most

> > important Yogas,

> > All Planets Fall in the Path from Rahu to Ketu,

> > Hence the Nodes play

> > an important Role.

> >

> > Hence, The role of nodes till the age of 43 should

> > not be

> > ignored.Influence of the nodes can make a person

> > either very spiritual

> > or opposite, Since the nodes try to give extreme

> > experience.

> >

> > To understand further. In your case you have

> Navamsa

> > Lagna in 12th

> > from Ak Saturn, Moon in Navamsa of Saturn etc

> hence

> > can give more

> > inclination for higher knowledge, penance, hard

> work

> > etc.

> >

> > Moreover Note that your Kaaraka tithi is Amavasya

> > ruled by Rahu. And

> > Rahu is in 8th from Navamsa Lagna, Hence even Rahu

> > inclined to give

> > more higher knowledge.

> >

> > Now after understanding that the " direction " of

> > nodes is more towards

> > Higher knowledge, Between the nodes Ketu is more

> > kaaraka for higher

> > knowledge. Since for Higher knowledge, First we

> have

> > to understand

> > that we are Headless(Hence Know nothing).

> >

> >

> > > > > I always felt happy whenever i pray Sri

> > Hayagriva and Sri

> > > > > Dhakshinamoorthy.But later i got more

> attached

> > with Sri

> > > Hayagriva.At

> >

> >

> > When Mercury, Becomes the teacher. Hayagreeva

> > devotion maybe possible.

> > In Navamsa (The chart for inner abilities,

> > achieved thru many

> > births), You have Exalted mercury in 9th, Showing

> > your higher teachers

> > maybe Mercurial form.

> >

> > Now to see the Divine form Mercury, Look at

> Mercury

> > in Vimsamsa, It's

> > conjoined Ketu. I think your D20 Lagna can also be

> > Capricorn, Thus the

> > Merc+Ketu combination falls in 12th house for

> > meditation. 8th and 12th

> > house are very important in D20.

> >

> > Dakshinaamoorthy is Solar form of Guru and

> Dattereya

> > ( Datta + Atri /

> > Moon's Gotra) is Lunar Form of Guru. Try to look

> for

> > Sun's influence

> > on Guru indicator or Lagna (One tries to seek

> > teacher driven by one's

> > character).

> >

> > > > > In my case,ketu is in Revathi which is

> > lorded by Mercury.So it

> > > > > takes the head of horse to control my rahu.I

> > started learning

> > > > > astrology immediatly after the commencement

> of

> > my rahu dasa.My

> > > Rahu

> >

> >

> > Yes, A very valid observation.

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Krithi ji,

 

I am happy you liked the shlokas. Many thanks to you

for starting this excellent thread.

 

sri Hayagriva also holds sudarshana chakra in his

right hand, and this chakra is made from none other

than Sun and serves the same purpose as the fire in

the hands of Sri Dakshinaamoorthy...that of destrying

ignorance/tamas.

 

If you look at the description of Sri Hayagriva, it

says that the Lord is white in colour and his

constitution is like that of sphatika. now, isn't it

known that Lord Vishnu is blue in colour and it is

Shiva who is supposed to be white in colour (except

his neck). It is again lord shiva who is more

worshipped in the form of sphatikaakriti than vishnu.

ofcourse, all these facts only point to the

" abhedatwa " of Shiva and vishnu. And, Sun himself is

worshipped as trimoortyatmaka, and indicates Guru in

all sects, whether vaishnavite, saivaite or Shaktaite

(Mother is revered as udyadbhaanu sahasraabhaa...and

the begining of Lalitha sahasranaamam starts like the

sun rise).

 

Even in jyotish, using the bhavat bhaavam principle,

Sun lords the 9th house from 9th house. And, even the

zodiacal 9th house is a house of Fire. Of Light.

 

regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

--- Krithigaivasan R <krithi_hayagriva

wrote:

 

> || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

>

> Dear Lakshmi ji,

>

> Namaskarams !

>

> Thanks for sharing these slokas.The second slokam

> which you wrote is the main slokam of Sri Hayagriva

> Stothiram,which praises the form/appereance of Sri

> Lakshmi Hayagriva.

>

> Coming to the planetory combination for Sri

> Hayagriva,all your points are making me to think a

> lot.If we see the picture of Sri Dakshinamoorthy and

> Sri Hayagriva,there will be one main difference,Sri

> Dakshinamoory will be holding FIRE(SUN)in his left

> hand which will not be there in Sri Hayagriva's

> hand.May be this FIRE in Sri Dakshinamoorthy's hand

> shows the involvement of SUN in Sri

> Dakshinamoorthy's

> planetory combination.Since,Sri Dakshinamoorthy is

> the

> form Shiva(SUN) involvement of Sun is very obvious.

>

> But Sri Hayagriva is form of Sri Vishnu..as you

> said

> if sun(shiva) is involved,does'nt it show a spark of

> Shiva in Sri Hayagriva ?

>

> May be gurudev or some other gurus shall guide us

> for better understanding.

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Best Regards,

>

> krithi

>

>

>

>

>

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Krithi & Sanjay,

> >

> > A few more slokas in praise of Sri Hayagriva...

> >

> > 1)Vidyaamoorthimakhanda chandra valaya

> > swetaaravindasthitham

> > hridyaabham sphatikaadri nirmala tanum

> vidyotamaanam

> > sriyaa

> > vaamaankasthitha vallabhaam prathi

> > sadaavyaakhyaantha

> > maamnaaya vaa-

> > garthaanaadimapoorusham hayamukham dhyaayaami

> > hamsaathmakam

> >

> > 2) vyaakhyamudraam karasarasijaih pusthakam sankha

> > chakre

> > bibhradbhinna sphatika ruchire pundarike nishannah

> > aamlaana sriramrita vishadairamsubhih

> plaavayanmaam

> > aavirbhooyaadanaghamahimaa maanase vaagadheesah.

> >

> > The above two shlokas expressly talk about the

> > effulgence, the transparency, and the hamsa tattwa

> > of

> > Sri Hayagriva....which are primarily qualitities

> of

> > sattwa guna. Does the combination of Ketu+Mercury

> > indicate the above qualities? Further, Ketu is

> > supposed to impede eloquence and Sri Hayagriva is

> > specifically referred to as

> " pratilasadvaagdevathaa

> > mandalo " !

> >

> > Sun, on the other hand, indicates both " head " and

> "

> > horse " (he became a horse to win back the

> affection

> > of

> > his estranged wife) and is exalted in the

> " ashwini "

> > nakshatra. He is synonymous with light, vedas,

> soul,

> > sattwa guna, consciousness and pure intelligence.

> He

> > is the Hamsa and the original remover of darkness

> > (Guru).Ofcourse, These qualities are applicable to

> > both Sri Dakshina Moorthy and Sri Hayagriva.

> >

> > But, there is a fine distinction. Whi Sri Dakshina

> > Moorthy's preferred mode of communication is

> > pregnant

> > silence (according to Sanjay ji Sun+Rahu-

> indicating

> > inhibited expression- along with a strong Jupiter

> > constitute Dakshinamoorthy yoga in a chart),I

> think

> > Sri Hayagriva signifies " speech " (Vaagadheesah) as

> > medium of communication. Also keeping in mind that

> > Sri

> > Hayagriva is Vishnu roopa, I feel Sun + Mercury

> > combination (nipuna yoga) which bestows a

> naturally

> > agile & expressive intellect, is more indicative

> of

> > Sri Hayagriva. The term " Viswaatma " (viswaatmaa

> > visada

> > prabhaa...) also can serve as a pointer to the

> > frequent occurrence of this yoga in most of the

> > charts. Association of this combination with 9th

> > house/Jupiter might highlight a more pervasive

> > influence of Sri Hayagriva in a chart.

> >

> > Sanjay, i think " aadhaaram " here means the " base "

> or

> > " basis " . Also, the phrase " nirmala

> sphatikaakritim "

> > is

> > more intended as a description of the Lord as the

> > manifestation of " pure reflection/consciousness "

> > rather than as " nirmalam " and " sphatikaakritim " .

> > Ofcourse, i could be wrong and am willing to be

> > corrected.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> > wrote:

> >

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > Namaste Krithi,

> > >

> > > Before I comment further on the chart, Let me do

> a

> > > small attempt in

> > > understanding the Shloka you gave,

> > >

> > > > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> > > spatikaakritham

> > > > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> > > upasmahe "

> > >

> > > Gyaanaanada = Gyana(Knowledge) +

> Ananda(Happiness)

> > > Maaya = Creation, maayaM = To the One who

> creates

> > > Happiness in

> > > Knowledge.

> > > devaM = To the Divine One, (In form of Light)

> > > NiramalaM = To The Pure/Soft One,

> > > SphaTika+akritham = To the one in form of Clear

> > > Crystal.

> > > AadaraM = To the one who gives Proof/Substratum,

> > > Sarva Vidyaanam = To all Knowledge,

> > > Hayagreevam = To Haya(Horse) + GriivaM(Necked)

> > one,

> > > Upasmahe = I Respectfully Approach/ I Surrender.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Here are my birth details,

> > > > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> > > > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid

> > night

> > > of 7th Aug 1977)

> > > > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> > > > Longitude : 79 E 42

> > > > Latitude : 11 N 6

> > >

> > > In Your Chart, Lets first understand the most

> > > important Yogas,

> > > All Planets Fall in the Path from Rahu to Ketu,

> > > Hence the Nodes play

> > > an important Role.

> > >

> > > Hence, The role of nodes till the age of 43

> should

> > > not be

> > > ignored.Influence of the nodes can make a person

> > > either very spiritual

> > > or opposite, Since the nodes try to give extreme

> > > experience.

> > >

> > > To understand further. In your case you have

> > Navamsa

> > > Lagna in 12th

> > > from Ak Saturn, Moon in Navamsa of Saturn etc

> > hence

> > > can give more

> > > inclination for higher knowledge, penance, hard

> > work

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Sanjay,

 

Though I am no sanskrit expert and have only a

rudimentary knowledge of the divine language (studied

it in my graduation but had little chance to practise

it in the Bank:--)), i thought i'd share my

instinctive understanding of the term " aadhaara "

meaning base, basis, foundation, support etc.

 

The way I look at it, the word " aadhaara " contains two

root words, aa+dhara. " Aa " meaning " entire " &

" end-to-end " , as in aapaadamastakam, aamoolaagram etc

and " dhara " means foundation, earth etc.

 

If " A " is the begining of pranava/creation, I feel

" aa " indicates an extension of the same and refers to

the creation and hence the term " aadhaara " can also

indicate " genesis " or " evolution " .

 

I think i'll stop my guess work here and hope that

Narasimha garu will take pity and come to our rescue

:--))

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

--- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

wrote:

 

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

>

> Namaste Dear Jyotishas,

>

> Can somebody please give the dictionary meaning for

> 'aadaaraM', I am

> also curious to know the root word from which

> 'aadaara' is derived from.

>

> With my little understanding in Sanskrit, When I

> translated 'aadaara'

> to mean proof/Substratum, I was thinking in terms of

> Makara lagna

> person. Who, is guided (9th house/Guru) by

> exaltation sign of Mercury.

> Makara is a very grave sign and keeps looking for

> proof for

> everything. Hence Kali yuga is ruled by Makara sign.

>

> I do agree that aadaara can also mean the Base,

> When I looked into

> dictionaries for 'aadaara' I could not find a proper

> reference, root,

> meaning etc. So I request other members for quote.

>

> Thank you

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " R. Kasthuri Rangan "

> <rkrangan@g...>

> wrote:

> > Sree Guro Paahimaam

> >

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi, Krithi and SanjayP

> >

> > That was brilliant. Aadaram is definitely " the

> base " . Besides the

> points

> > raised by Lakshmi, the Aswini nakshatra link makes

> me feel that Sun +

> > Merc will dominate more and not Merc + Ketu. This

> is going to be an

> > interesting discussion and I don't have the time

> now. Maybe later.

> >

> > Best wishes

> > R. Kasthuri Rangan

> >

> >

> > lakshmi ramesh wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Krithi ji,

> > >

> > > I am happy you liked the shlokas. Many thanks to

> you

> > > for starting this excellent thread.

> > >

> > > sri Hayagriva also holds sudarshana chakra in

> his

> > > right hand, and this chakra is made from none

> other

> > > than Sun and serves the same purpose as the fire

> in

> > > the hands of Sri Dakshinaamoorthy...that of

> destrying

> > > ignorance/tamas.

> > >

> > > If you look at the description of Sri Hayagriva,

> it

> > > says that the Lord is white in colour and his

> > > constitution is like that of sphatika. now,

> isn't it

> > > known that Lord Vishnu is blue in colour and it

> is

> > > Shiva who is supposed to be white in colour

> (except

> > > his neck). It is again lord shiva who is more

> > > worshipped in the form of sphatikaakriti than

> vishnu.

> > > ofcourse, all these facts only point to the

> > > " abhedatwa " of Shiva and vishnu. And, Sun

> himself is

> > > worshipped as trimoortyatmaka, and indicates

> Guru in

> > > all sects, whether vaishnavite, saivaite or

> Shaktaite

> > > (Mother is revered as udyadbhaanu

> sahasraabhaa...and

> > > the begining of Lalitha sahasranaamam starts

> like the

> > > sun rise).

> > >

> > > Even in jyotish, using the bhavat bhaavam

> principle,

> > > Sun lords the 9th house from 9th house. And,

> even the

> > > zodiacal 9th house is a house of Fire. Of Light.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi_hayagriva>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskarams !

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing these slokas.The second

> slokam

> > > > which you wrote is the main slokam of Sri

> Hayagriva

> > > > Stothiram,which praises the form/appereance of

> Sri

> > > > Lakshmi Hayagriva.

> > > >

> > > > Coming to the planetory combination for Sri

> > > > Hayagriva,all your points are making me to

> think a

> > > > lot.If we see the picture of Sri

> Dakshinamoorthy and

> > > > Sri Hayagriva,there will be one main

> difference,Sri

> > > > Dakshinamoory will be holding FIRE(SUN)in his

> left

> > > > hand which will not be there in Sri

> Hayagriva's

> > > > hand.May be this FIRE in Sri Dakshinamoorthy's

> hand

> > > > shows the involvement of SUN in Sri

> > > > Dakshinamoorthy's

> > > > planetory combination.Since,Sri

> Dakshinamoorthy is

> > > > the

> > > > form Shiva(SUN) involvement of Sun is very

> obvious.

> > > >

> > > > But Sri Hayagriva is form of Sri Vishnu..as

> you

> > > > said

> > > > if sun(shiva) is involved,does'nt it show a

> spark of

> > > > Shiva in Sri Hayagriva ?

> > > >

> > > > May be gurudev or some other gurus shall

> guide us

> > > > for better understanding.

> > > >

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > >

> > > > krithi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Krithi & Sanjay,

> > > > >

> > > > > A few more slokas in praise of Sri

> Hayagriva...

> > > > >

> > > > > 1)Vidyaamoorthimakhanda chandra valaya

> > > > > swetaaravindasthitham

> > > > > hridyaabham sphatikaadri nirmala tanum

> > > > vidyotamaanam

> > > > > sriyaa

> > > > > vaamaankasthitha vallabhaam prathi

> > > > > sadaavyaakhyaantha

> > > > > maamnaaya vaa-

> > > > > garthaanaadimapoorusham hayamukham

> dhyaayaami

> > > > > hamsaathmakam

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) vyaakhyamudraam karasarasijaih pusthakam

> sankha

> > > > > chakre

> > > > > bibhradbhinna sphatika ruchire pundarike

> nishannah

> > > > > aamlaana sriramrita vishadairamsubhih

> > > > plaavayanmaam

> > > > > aavirbhooyaadanaghamahimaa maanase

> vaagadheesah.

>

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Jyotishas,

Here is some references from dictionary.

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

aadhaara/AdhAra

-------------------------------

Monier Williams

m. support , prop , stay , substratum

the power of sustaining , or the support given , aid , patronage AV.

xii , 3 , 48 MBh. Sus3r. Veda1ntas. & c.

that which contains (a fluid & c.) , a vessel , receptacle Ya1jn5.

Sus3r. Pan5cat. & c.

a dike , dam Ragh.

a basin round the foot of a tree L.

a reservoir , pond L. (in phil. and Gr.) comprehension , location ,

the sense of the locative case ifc. belonging or relating to

the subject in a sentence (of which qualities & c. are affirmed)

-------------------------------

search `aadhaara' in `Apte Dic'

meanings of " aadhaara "

m.{a-stem}

1.support;

2.(hence) power of sustaining;

3.a receptacle;

4.that which holds or contains;

5.a part (in dramas);

6.a basin round the foot of a tree;

7.a dike;

8.a canal;

9.the sense of the locative case;

10.relation;

11.a ray

-------------------------------

aadhaara is from aa+root dhR

 

search `dhR' in `Apte Dic'

meanings of " dhR " [1]

v.

6.A; [supposed by some to be a passive form of dhR](dhriyate, dhRta)

1.to be or exist;

2.to be maintained or preserved;

3.to resolve upon

meanings of " dhR " [2]

v.

1.P; 10.U; (dharati, usually dhaarayati-te, dhRta, dhaarita)

1.to hold;

2.to hold or bear up;

3.to hold in one's possession;

4.to assume (as a form, disguise & c.);

5.to wear (clothes, ornaments & c.);

6.to hold in check;

7.to fix upon (with dat. or loc.);

8.to suffer;

9.to assign anything to any person;

10.to owe anything to a person (with dat.; rarely gen. of person, 10

only in this sense);

11.to hold;

12.to observe;

13.to cite;

14.to keep (in one's service);

15.to preserve;

16.to seize;

17.to hold out or on;

18.to fix;

19.to intend in mind

 

 

sohamsa , lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Sanjay,

>

> Though I am no sanskrit expert and have only a

> rudimentary knowledge of the divine language (studied

> it in my graduation but had little chance to practise

> it in the Bank:--)), i thought i'd share my

> instinctive understanding of the term " aadhaara "

> meaning base, basis, foundation, support etc.

>

> The way I look at it, the word " aadhaara " contains two

> root words, aa+dhara. " Aa " meaning " entire " &

> " end-to-end " , as in aapaadamastakam, aamoolaagram etc

> and " dhara " means foundation, earth etc.

>

> If " A " is the begining of pranava/creation, I feel

> " aa " indicates an extension of the same and refers to

> the creation and hence the term " aadhaara " can also

> indicate " genesis " or " evolution " .

>

> I think i'll stop my guess work here and hope that

> Narasimha garu will take pity and come to our rescue

> :--))

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

> --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...>

> wrote:

>

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> >

> > Namaste Dear Jyotishas,

> >

> > Can somebody please give the dictionary meaning for

> > 'aadaaraM', I am

> > also curious to know the root word from which

> > 'aadaara' is derived from.

> >

> > With my little understanding in Sanskrit, When I

> > translated 'aadaara'

> > to mean proof/Substratum, I was thinking in terms of

> > Makara lagna

> > person. Who, is guided (9th house/Guru) by

> > exaltation sign of Mercury.

> > Makara is a very grave sign and keeps looking for

> > proof for

> > everything. Hence Kali yuga is ruled by Makara sign.

> >

> > I do agree that aadaara can also mean the Base,

> > When I looked into

> > dictionaries for 'aadaara' I could not find a proper

> > reference, root,

> > meaning etc. So I request other members for quote.

> >

> > Thank you

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , " R. Kasthuri Rangan "

> > <rkrangan@g...>

> > wrote:

> > > Sree Guro Paahimaam

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Lakshmi, Krithi and SanjayP

> > >

> > > That was brilliant. Aadaram is definitely " the

> > base " . Besides the

> > points

> > > raised by Lakshmi, the Aswini nakshatra link makes

> > me feel that Sun +

> > > Merc will dominate more and not Merc + Ketu. This

> > is going to be an

> > > interesting discussion and I don't have the time

> > now. Maybe later.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > > R. Kasthuri Rangan

> > >

> > >

> > > lakshmi ramesh wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Krithi ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am happy you liked the shlokas. Many thanks to

> > you

> > > > for starting this excellent thread.

> > > >

> > > > sri Hayagriva also holds sudarshana chakra in

> > his

> > > > right hand, and this chakra is made from none

> > other

> > > > than Sun and serves the same purpose as the fire

> > in

> > > > the hands of Sri Dakshinaamoorthy...that of

> > destrying

> > > > ignorance/tamas.

> > > >

> > > > If you look at the description of Sri Hayagriva,

> > it

> > > > says that the Lord is white in colour and his

> > > > constitution is like that of sphatika. now,

> > isn't it

> > > > known that Lord Vishnu is blue in colour and it

> > is

> > > > Shiva who is supposed to be white in colour

> > (except

> > > > his neck). It is again lord shiva who is more

> > > > worshipped in the form of sphatikaakriti than

> > vishnu.

> > > > ofcourse, all these facts only point to the

> > > > " abhedatwa " of Shiva and vishnu. And, Sun

> > himself is

> > > > worshipped as trimoortyatmaka, and indicates

> > Guru in

> > > > all sects, whether vaishnavite, saivaite or

> > Shaktaite

> > > > (Mother is revered as udyadbhaanu

> > sahasraabhaa...and

> > > > the begining of Lalitha sahasranaamam starts

> > like the

> > > > sun rise).

> > > >

> > > > Even in jyotish, using the bhavat bhaavam

> > principle,

> > > > Sun lords the 9th house from 9th house. And,

> > even the

> > > > zodiacal 9th house is a house of Fire. Of Light.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi_hayagriva>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskarams !

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for sharing these slokas.The second

> > slokam

> > > > > which you wrote is the main slokam of Sri

> > Hayagriva

> > > > > Stothiram,which praises the form/appereance of

> > Sri

> > > > > Lakshmi Hayagriva.

> > > > >

> > > > > Coming to the planetory combination for Sri

> > > > > Hayagriva,all your points are making me to

> > think a

> > > > > lot.If we see the picture of Sri

> > Dakshinamoorthy and

> > > > > Sri Hayagriva,there will be one main

> > difference,Sri

> > > > > Dakshinamoory will be holding FIRE(SUN)in his

> > left

> > > > > hand which will not be there in Sri

> > Hayagriva's

> > > > > hand.May be this FIRE in Sri Dakshinamoorthy's

> > hand

> > > > > shows the involvement of SUN in Sri

> > > > > Dakshinamoorthy's

> > > > > planetory combination.Since,Sri

> > Dakshinamoorthy is

> > > > > the

> > > > > form Shiva(SUN) involvement of Sun is very

> > obvious.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Sri Hayagriva is form of Sri Vishnu..as

> > you

> > > > > said

> > > > > if sun(shiva) is involved,does'nt it show a

> > spark of

> > > > > Shiva in Sri Hayagriva ?

> > > > >

> > > > > May be gurudev or some other gurus shall

> > guide us

> > > > > for better understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > krithi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Krithi & Sanjay,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A few more slokas in praise of Sri

> > Hayagriva...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1)Vidyaamoorthimakhanda chandra valaya

> > > > > > swetaaravindasthitham

> > > > > > hridyaabham sphatikaadri nirmala tanum

> > > > > vidyotamaanam

> > > > > > sriyaa

> > > > > > vaamaankasthitha vallabhaam prathi

> > > > > > sadaavyaakhyaantha

> > > > > > maamnaaya vaa-

> > > > > > garthaanaadimapoorusham hayamukham

> > dhyaayaami

> > > > > > hamsaathmakam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) vyaakhyamudraam karasarasijaih pusthakam

> > sankha

> > > > > > chakre

> > > > > > bibhradbhinna sphatika ruchire pundarike

> > nishannah

> > > > > > aamlaana sriramrita vishadairamsubhih

> > > > > plaavayanmaam

> > > > > > aavirbhooyaadanaghamahimaa maanase

> > vaagadheesah.

> >

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|| Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

 

Dear Lakshmi ji,

 

Namaskarams !

 

Please don't call me as ji.

 

Excellent Thoughts.But still i am not convinced with the

combination Sun+Mer for Sri Hayagriva.The reason is,although sun is

trimoortyatmaka,when it comes to its devata,it is SHIVA.So i think

the said combination Sun+Mer may indicate Sri Shankara Narayana or

Sri Harihara.So i don't convince with that sun will take part here.

Again,if we speak about sudarshan chakras,all the vishnu avatars has

it..Do you mean to say that all the vishnu avatar's combination

includes sun ?

 

We both are convinced with Mer being part of the combination for

Sri Hayagriva as Sri Hayagriva is roopa of Sri Vishnu.Now the issue

is only whether it is sun or ketu.Let me give my thoughts why i

support for combination with ketu..

 

Ketu is headless.He gets head from some other planet.Same ketu will

indicate Gajapathi with Guru.Same ketu will indicate Goat Faced deity

(i forgot the name) if he is with mars...With saturn he may indicate

sri hanuman(i may be wrong here)...The point is,the final roopams may

be a vishnu or shiva roopam but ketu gains that roopam's head from

the combined planet.

 

If we take sun+mer case,Which planet gets horse head from which

planet ? In my understanding SUN is involved in Shiva roopam's

only..that too in the roopams which does ONLY have human head.

Ex.Shri Dhakshinamoorthy.Again if there are any shiva roopams like

Sri Hanuman,then without ketu we can't justify the change of Head.

 

So,my understanding is,whatever the roopams may be(either shiva or

vishnu) when it comes to change of head then KETU should be involved

in that combination.

 

I may be totally wrong but just i worte what i thought.

 

Really very nice discussion with you lakshmiji.Pls present your

thoughts.I will share my thoughts after 2 days as i will be in travel

for next two days.

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Best Regards,

 

krithi

 

 

 

 

sohamsa , lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Krithi ji,

>

> I am happy you liked the shlokas. Many thanks to you

> for starting this excellent thread.

>

> sri Hayagriva also holds sudarshana chakra in his

> right hand, and this chakra is made from none other

> than Sun and serves the same purpose as the fire in

> the hands of Sri Dakshinaamoorthy...that of destrying

> ignorance/tamas.

>

> If you look at the description of Sri Hayagriva, it

> says that the Lord is white in colour and his

> constitution is like that of sphatika. now, isn't it

> known that Lord Vishnu is blue in colour and it is

> Shiva who is supposed to be white in colour (except

> his neck). It is again lord shiva who is more

> worshipped in the form of sphatikaakriti than vishnu.

> ofcourse, all these facts only point to the

> " abhedatwa " of Shiva and vishnu. And, Sun himself is

> worshipped as trimoortyatmaka, and indicates Guru in

> all sects, whether vaishnavite, saivaite or Shaktaite

> (Mother is revered as udyadbhaanu sahasraabhaa...and

> the begining of Lalitha sahasranaamam starts like the

> sun rise).

>

> Even in jyotish, using the bhavat bhaavam principle,

> Sun lords the 9th house from 9th house. And, even the

> zodiacal 9th house is a house of Fire. Of Light.

>

> regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

> --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi_hayagriva>

> wrote:

>

> > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi ji,

> >

> > Namaskarams !

> >

> > Thanks for sharing these slokas.The second slokam

> > which you wrote is the main slokam of Sri Hayagriva

> > Stothiram,which praises the form/appereance of Sri

> > Lakshmi Hayagriva.

> >

> > Coming to the planetory combination for Sri

> > Hayagriva,all your points are making me to think a

> > lot.If we see the picture of Sri Dakshinamoorthy and

> > Sri Hayagriva,there will be one main difference,Sri

> > Dakshinamoory will be holding FIRE(SUN)in his left

> > hand which will not be there in Sri Hayagriva's

> > hand.May be this FIRE in Sri Dakshinamoorthy's hand

> > shows the involvement of SUN in Sri

> > Dakshinamoorthy's

> > planetory combination.Since,Sri Dakshinamoorthy is

> > the

> > form Shiva(SUN) involvement of Sun is very obvious.

> >

> > But Sri Hayagriva is form of Sri Vishnu..as you

> > said

> > if sun(shiva) is involved,does'nt it show a spark of

> > Shiva in Sri Hayagriva ?

> >

> > May be gurudev or some other gurus shall guide us

> > for better understanding.

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > krithi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Krithi & Sanjay,

> > >

> > > A few more slokas in praise of Sri Hayagriva...

> > >

> > > 1)Vidyaamoorthimakhanda chandra valaya

> > > swetaaravindasthitham

> > > hridyaabham sphatikaadri nirmala tanum

> > vidyotamaanam

> > > sriyaa

> > > vaamaankasthitha vallabhaam prathi

> > > sadaavyaakhyaantha

> > > maamnaaya vaa-

> > > garthaanaadimapoorusham hayamukham dhyaayaami

> > > hamsaathmakam

> > >

> > > 2) vyaakhyamudraam karasarasijaih pusthakam sankha

> > > chakre

> > > bibhradbhinna sphatika ruchire pundarike nishannah

> > > aamlaana sriramrita vishadairamsubhih

> > plaavayanmaam

> > > aavirbhooyaadanaghamahimaa maanase vaagadheesah.

> > >

> > > The above two shlokas expressly talk about the

> > > effulgence, the transparency, and the hamsa tattwa

> > > of

> > > Sri Hayagriva....which are primarily qualitities

> > of

> > > sattwa guna. Does the combination of Ketu+Mercury

> > > indicate the above qualities? Further, Ketu is

> > > supposed to impede eloquence and Sri Hayagriva is

> > > specifically referred to as

> > " pratilasadvaagdevathaa

> > > mandalo " !

> > >

> > > Sun, on the other hand, indicates both " head " and

> > "

> > > horse " (he became a horse to win back the

> > affection

> > > of

> > > his estranged wife) and is exalted in the

> > " ashwini "

> > > nakshatra. He is synonymous with light, vedas,

> > soul,

> > > sattwa guna, consciousness and pure intelligence.

> > He

> > > is the Hamsa and the original remover of darkness

> > > (Guru).Ofcourse, These qualities are applicable to

> > > both Sri Dakshina Moorthy and Sri Hayagriva.

> > >

> > > But, there is a fine distinction. Whi Sri Dakshina

> > > Moorthy's preferred mode of communication is

> > > pregnant

> > > silence (according to Sanjay ji Sun+Rahu-

> > indicating

> > > inhibited expression- along with a strong Jupiter

> > > constitute Dakshinamoorthy yoga in a chart),I

> > think

> > > Sri Hayagriva signifies " speech " (Vaagadheesah) as

> > > medium of communication. Also keeping in mind that

> > > Sri

> > > Hayagriva is Vishnu roopa, I feel Sun + Mercury

> > > combination (nipuna yoga) which bestows a

> > naturally

> > > agile & expressive intellect, is more indicative

> > of

> > > Sri Hayagriva. The term " Viswaatma " (viswaatmaa

> > > visada

> > > prabhaa...) also can serve as a pointer to the

> > > frequent occurrence of this yoga in most of the

> > > charts. Association of this combination with 9th

> > > house/Jupiter might highlight a more pervasive

> > > influence of Sri Hayagriva in a chart.

> > >

> > > Sanjay, i think " aadhaaram " here means the " base "

> > or

> > > " basis " . Also, the phrase " nirmala

> > sphatikaakritim "

> > > is

> > > more intended as a description of the Lord as the

> > > manifestation of " pure reflection/consciousness "

> > > rather than as " nirmalam " and " sphatikaakritim " .

> > > Ofcourse, i could be wrong and am willing to be

> > > corrected.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > Namaste Krithi,

> > > >

> > > > Before I comment further on the chart, Let me do

> > a

> > > > small attempt in

> > > > understanding the Shloka you gave,

> > > >

> > > > > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> > > > spatikaakritham

> > > > > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> > > > upasmahe "

> > > >

> > > > Gyaanaanada = Gyana(Knowledge) +

> > Ananda(Happiness)

> > > > Maaya = Creation, maayaM = To the One who

> > creates

> > > > Happiness in

> > > > Knowledge.

> > > > devaM = To the Divine One, (In form of Light)

> > > > NiramalaM = To The Pure/Soft One,

> > > > SphaTika+akritham = To the one in form of Clear

> > > > Crystal.

> > > > AadaraM = To the one who gives Proof/Substratum,

> > > > Sarva Vidyaanam = To all Knowledge,

> > > > Hayagreevam = To Haya(Horse) + GriivaM(Necked)

> > > one,

> > > > Upasmahe = I Respectfully Approach/ I Surrender.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Here are my birth details,

> > > > > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> > > > > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid

> > > night

> > > > of 7th Aug 1977)

> > > > > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> > > > > Longitude : 79 E 42

> > > > > Latitude : 11 N 6

> > > >

> > > > In Your Chart, Lets first understand the most

> > > > important Yogas,

> > > > All Planets Fall in the Path from Rahu to Ketu,

> > > > Hence the Nodes play

> > > > an important Role.

> > > >

> > > > Hence, The role of nodes till the age of 43

> > should

> > > > not be

> > > > ignored.Influence of the nodes can make a person

> > > > either very spiritual

> > > > or opposite, Since the nodes try to give extreme

> > > > experience.

> > > >

> > > > To understand further. In your case you have

> > > Navamsa

> > > > Lagna in 12th

> > > > from Ak Saturn, Moon in Navamsa of Saturn etc

> > > hence

> > > > can give more

> > > > inclination for higher knowledge, penance, hard

> > > work

> >

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Dear Krithi,

You are correct.ADHAARAM SARVA VIDYAANAAM means the base or the root of all Vidyas,here it is considered as Vedic knowledge.

In Matsyavatara, a Rakshasa called Hayagriva stolen all texts pertaining to Vedas and the knowledge of Brahman and hides under the ocean.Lord Vishnu in the form of Matsya/Fish kills the Demon Hayagriva and recovers Vedas.Hence Lord Vishnu is also called as Lord Hayagriva.

I hope this helps all.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Krithigaivasan R <krithi_hayagriva wrote:

||Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||Dear SanjayP, Namaskarams ! The slokam under discussion is the first slokaamong the collections of 33 slokams of Sri HayagrivaStothiram by Sri Desigar. Very well explained about the slokam and i thinkthe word "AdaraM" means the ROOT/STARTING POINT as SriHayagriva is the starting point or root of all thevedas.I am not good in understanding sanskrit,just iwrote what i thought. Regarding your observations on my chart,really veryvalid observations and thanks for spending yourvaluable time on this.Particularly, the observationabout my karaka thithi and role of rahu in boosting upmy spirituality is simply great and sounds good. > Maybe, Sanjayji is pointing to association with> Prithvi tatwa.

Since> Pritvi tatwa is ruled by Mercury. Now If you note> the Rajju of Revathi> Nakshatra it falls in Pada(Feet) rajju, ruled by> Pritvi Tatwa.> > I think there is another table also to reckon Tatwa> based on Nakshatra> Pada. Hopefully someone will present that.> Yes.Sanjayji was telling something about theplacement of ketu in the nakshtra pada which isassiged to prithivi tatwa.I remember that all the 4padas of a nakshtra is assigned with a tatwa each.Onlyagni,jala,prithivi and vayu tatwas are considered forthis assignment.Akash tatwa is not considered here.Ithink the order of assignment differs for odd and evensigns.This is what i remember now.As you said onlysomeone who knows this should present here. Could you please write more about rajju's andtatwas ?|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Best Regards,krithi---

sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiarwrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Namaste Krithi,> > Before I comment further on the chart, Let me do a> small attempt in> understanding the Shloka you gave,> > > > > "Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam> spatikaakritham> > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam> upasmahe"> > Gyaanaanada = Gyana(Knowledge) + Ananda(Happiness)> Maaya = Creation, maayaM = To the One who creates> Happiness in > Knowledge.> devaM = To the Divine One, (In form of Light)> NiramalaM = To The Pure/Soft One,> SphaTika+akritham = To the one in form of Clear> Crystal.> AadaraM = To the one who gives Proof/Substratum,> Sarva Vidyaanam = To all Knowledge,> Hayagreevam = To Haya(Horse) +

GriivaM(Necked) one,> Upasmahe = I Respectfully Approach/ I Surrender.> > > > Here are my birth details, > > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977 > > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid night> of 7th Aug 1977) > > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.> > Longitude : 79 E 42> > Latitude : 11 N 6> > In Your Chart, Lets first understand the most> important Yogas,> All Planets Fall in the Path from Rahu to Ketu,> Hence the Nodes play> an important Role. > > Hence, The role of nodes till the age of 43 should> not be> ignored.Influence of the nodes can make a person> either very spiritual> or opposite, Since the nodes try to give extreme> experience. > > To understand further. In your case you have Navamsa> Lagna in

12th> from Ak Saturn, Moon in Navamsa of Saturn etc hence> can give more> inclination for higher knowledge, penance, hard work> etc.> > Moreover Note that your Kaaraka tithi is Amavasya> ruled by Rahu. And> Rahu is in 8th from Navamsa Lagna, Hence even Rahu> inclined to give> more higher knowledge. > > Now after understanding that the "direction" of> nodes is more towards> Higher knowledge, Between the nodes Ketu is more> kaaraka for higher> knowledge. Since for Higher knowledge, First we have> to understand> that we are Headless(Hence Know nothing).> > > > > > I always felt happy whenever i pray Sri> Hayagriva and Sri > > > > Dhakshinamoorthy.But later i got more attached> with Sri > > Hayagriva.At > > > When Mercury, Becomes the teacher.

Hayagreeva> devotion maybe possible.> In Navamsa (The chart for inner abilities,> achieved thru many> births), You have Exalted mercury in 9th, Showing> your higher teachers> maybe Mercurial form. > > Now to see the Divine form Mercury, Look at Mercury> in Vimsamsa, It's> conjoined Ketu. I think your D20 Lagna can also be> Capricorn, Thus the> Merc+Ketu combination falls in 12th house for> meditation. 8th and 12th> house are very important in D20.> > Dakshinaamoorthy is Solar form of Guru and Dattereya> ( Datta + Atri /> Moon's Gotra) is Lunar Form of Guru. Try to look for> Sun's influence> on Guru indicator or Lagna (One tries to seek> teacher driven by one's> character).> > > > > In my case,ketu is in Revathi which is> lorded by Mercury.So it > > > > takes the

head of horse to control my rahu.I> started learning > > > > astrology immediatly after the commencement of> my rahu dasa.My > > Rahu > > > Yes, A very valid observation. > > > > which > > > > is the nakshatra dispositor of ketu or it may> be the planet which > > > > owns the tatwa of the nakshtra pada where ketu> is..Association > > always > > > > has high preference.> > > Maybe, Sanjayji is pointing to association with> Prithvi tatwa. Since> Pritvi tatwa is ruled by Mercury. Now If you note> the Rajju of Revathi> Nakshatra it falls in Pada(Feet) rajju, ruled by> Pritvi Tatwa.> > I think there is another table also to reckon Tatwa> based on Nakshatra> Pada. Hopefully someone will present that.> > > Warm Regards>

Sanjay P> > Hare Rama Krishna.> > > > > > sohamsa , "Krithigaivasan> Radhakrishnan"> <krithi_hayagriva> wrote:> > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > > > Dear SanjayP,> > > > Namaskarams !> > > > Here are my birth details,> > > > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977> > > > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid night> of 7th Aug 1977)> > > > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.> > > > Longitude : 79 E 42> > > > Latitude : 11 N 6> > > > > > Please let me know your observations.> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Best

Regards,> > > > krithi> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa ,> "sanjayprabhakaran" > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Namaste Krithi,> > > Since you have so much bhakti for Hayagreeva,> can you please give> > > your birth details?.> > > Thank you> > > Warm Regards> > > Sanjay P> > > > > > sohamsa , "Krithigaivasan> Radhakrishnan"> > > <krithi_hayagriva> wrote:> > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > Namaskarams !> > > > > > > > "Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Ramdas Rao ji & Krithi,

 

Certainly Sri Vishnu rescued the Vedas as Matsyavatara

(undoubtedly Ketu, as told by great Parasara), but

when the Vedas were delivered to Brahma, Narayana took

on the form of Hayagriva. Again in Kanchipuram, when

sage Agastya performed penance for Varada Raja

(Narayana), the Lord again took the form of Hayagriva

before blessing the sage with Lalitha Sahasranaamam &

trishati. Since time immemorial Vidya has been

identified with Light, while avidya has been

unequivocally tagged with darkness.

 

I feel that Sri Hayagriva’s handing over of Vedas to

Brahma is akin to Brahmopadesam. It is specially apt

that it has been performed by his Father. Sage Agastya

is the son of Brahma, hence Narayana as prapitamaha

had given the learned sage the upadesam. I don’t think

Brahmopadesam can be identified with any other planet

than Sun, who is the permanent significator for

Father. And the 5th house (Leo) is always associated

with upadesam.

 

“Even Sri VishNnu puraaNam, details Sun as the Horse

faced one for upadEsam. Hayagreeva avtaaram is for

VedOpadEsam and granting us jnAnam.”

(http://www.parakalamatham.org/articles/mkarticle.shtml)

 

During Ksheera sagara madhanam Narayana took on

various forms simultaneously. It is a tribute to His

divine intelligence and versatility that He was the

koormavatara (Saturn) bearing the burden of the

mountain, Ajita(Sun) toiling along with the devas,

Dhanvantari (Moon) who brought up the amrita. He was

also the Jagan Mohini (Venus), fooling the demons with

His charm. He was the wise Protector (Jupiter) who sat

on top of Meru and urged the devas on. Though it is

the same Vishnu who took upon Himself all these

avataras, the flavour of each avatara is different.

Ketu as Matsyavatara signifies fighting with internal

asuras and searching for Moksha, whereas Sri Hayagriva

stands for all vedic knowledge, rites, sacrifices etc.

 

 

As “aadharam sarva vidyaanaam” He stands for supreme

intelligence, un-blinkered vision and jignyasa, which

are mandatory for mastering all vidya, whether para or

apara.

 

As to whether Sun is symbolic of Vishnu or not, I

refer to Yagnyvalka Rishi, who praised the Sun as

“vedaatrayaatmaka swaamin naraayana jagatpathe” or to

Parasara who emphatically proclaimed”

Vaishnavomsaparassoorya antarjyotirasamplavam” or to

Agni purana’s “taj jyotir bhagavan

vishnurjagajjanmaadi kaaranam”, the fact that all

rulers have vaishnava amsa in them (sun is grahapathi)

and one of the dwadasa aditya is called Vishnu and

leave the rest to you. In Andhra, Surya is referred

to as Surya Narayana and Guruji himself worships

savitri mandala madhya varti very much!

 

These are my views and the statutory warning on all my

mails reads “ofcourse, I could very well be

wrong”!:--))

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

--- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

 

>

> ` ïI ra " veNÔ gué_yae nm>

>

> om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Krithi,

> You are correct.ADHAARAM SARVA VIDYAANAAM means the

> base or the root of all Vidyas,here it is considered

> as Vedic knowledge.

> In Matsyavatara, a Rakshasa called Hayagriva stolen

> all texts pertaining to Vedas and the knowledge of

> Brahman and hides under the ocean.Lord Vishnu in the

> form of Matsya/Fish kills the Demon Hayagriva and

> recovers Vedas.Hence Lord Vishnu is also called as

> Lord Hayagriva.

> I hope this helps all.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> Krithigaivasan R <krithi_hayagriva

> wrote:

> ||Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

>

> Dear SanjayP,

>

> Namaskarams !

>

> The slokam under discussion is the first sloka

> among the collections of 33 slokams of Sri Hayagriva

> Stothiram by Sri Desigar.

>

> Very well explained about the slokam and i think

> the word " AdaraM " means the ROOT/STARTING POINT as

> Sri

> Hayagriva is the starting point or root of all the

> vedas.I am not good in understanding sanskrit,just i

> wrote what i thought.

>

> Regarding your observations on my chart,really

> very

> valid observations and thanks for spending your

> valuable time on this.Particularly, the observation

> about my karaka thithi and role of rahu in boosting

> up

> my spirituality is simply great and sounds good.

>

> > Maybe, Sanjayji is pointing to association with

> > Prithvi tatwa. Since

> > Pritvi tatwa is ruled by Mercury. Now If you note

> > the Rajju of Revathi

> > Nakshatra it falls in Pada(Feet) rajju, ruled by

> > Pritvi Tatwa.

> >

> > I think there is another table also to reckon

> Tatwa

> > based on Nakshatra

> > Pada. Hopefully someone will present that.

> >

>

>

> Yes.Sanjayji was telling something about the

> placement of ketu in the nakshtra pada which is

> assiged to prithivi tatwa.I remember that all the 4

> padas of a nakshtra is assigned with a tatwa

> each.Only

> agni,jala,prithivi and vayu tatwas are considered

> for

> this assignment.Akash tatwa is not considered here.I

> think the order of assignment differs for odd and

> even

> signs.This is what i remember now.As you said only

> someone who knows this should present here.

>

>

> Could you please write more about rajju's and

> tatwas ?

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Best Regards,

>

> krithi

>

> --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> wrote:

>

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Namaste Krithi,

> >

> > Before I comment further on the chart, Let me do a

> > small attempt in

> > understanding the Shloka you gave,

> >

> > > > > " Gnanaa-nanda-mayam devam nirmalam

> > spatikaakritham

> > > > > Aadaram sarva vidyanaam hayagreevam

> > upasmahe "

> >

> > Gyaanaanada = Gyana(Knowledge) + Ananda(Happiness)

> > Maaya = Creation, maayaM = To the One who creates

> > Happiness in

> > Knowledge.

> > devaM = To the Divine One, (In form of Light)

> > NiramalaM = To The Pure/Soft One,

> > SphaTika+akritham = To the one in form of Clear

> > Crystal.

> > AadaraM = To the one who gives Proof/Substratum,

> > Sarva Vidyaanam = To all Knowledge,

> > Hayagreevam = To Haya(Horse) + GriivaM(Necked)

> one,

> > Upasmahe = I Respectfully Approach/ I Surrender.

> >

> >

> > > Here are my birth details,

> > > Date of Birth : 8/8/1977

> > > Time of Birth : 0:27:55 IST(12:27 AM -Mid

> night

> > of 7th Aug 1977)

> > > Place of Birth : Mayuram,Tamil Nadu,India.

> > > Longitude : 79 E 42

> > > Latitude : 11 N 6

> >

> > In Your Chart, Lets first understand the most

> > important Yogas,

> > All Planets Fall in the Path from Rahu to Ketu,

> > Hence the Nodes play

> > an important Role.

> >

> > Hence, The role of nodes till the age of 43 should

> > not be

> > ignored.Influence of the nodes can make a person

> > either very spiritual

> > or opposite, Since the nodes try to give extreme

> > experience.

> >

> > To understand further. In your case you have

> Navamsa

> > Lagna in 12th

> > from Ak Saturn, Moon in Navamsa of Saturn etc

> hence

> > can give more

> > inclination for higher knowledge, penance, hard

> work

> > etc.

> >

> > Moreover Note that your Kaaraka tithi is Amavasya

> > ruled by Rahu. And

> > Rahu is in 8th from Navamsa Lagna, Hence even Rahu

> > inclined to give

> > more higher knowledge.

> >

> > Now after understanding that the " direction " of

> > nodes is more towards

> > Higher knowledge, Between the nodes Ketu is more

> > kaaraka for higher

> > knowledge. Since for Higher knowledge, First we

> have

> > to understand

> > that we are Headless(Hence Know nothing).

> >

> >

> > > > > I always felt happy whenever i pray Sri

> > Hayagriva and Sri

> > > > > Dhakshinamoorthy.But later i got more

> attached

> > with Sri

> > > Hayagriva.At

> >

> >

> > When Mercury, Becomes the teacher. Hayagreeva

> > devotion maybe possible.

> > In Navamsa (The chart for inner abilities,

> > achieved thru many

> > births), You have Exalted mercury in 9th, Showing

> > your higher teachers

> > maybe Mercurial form.

> >

> > Now to see the Divine form Mercury, Look at

> Mercury

> > in Vimsamsa, It's

> > conjoined Ketu. I think your D20 Lagna can also be

> > Capricorn, Thus the

> > Merc+Ketu combination falls in 12th house for

> > meditation. 8th and 12th

> > house are very important in D20.

> >

> > Dakshinaamoorthy is Solar form of Guru and

> Dattereya

> > ( Datta + Atri /

> > Moon's Gotra) is Lunar Form of Guru. Try to look

> for

> > Sun's influence

> > on Guru indicator or Lagna (One tries to seek

> > teacher driven by one's

> > character).

> >

> > > > > In my case,ketu is in Revathi which is

> > lorded by Mercury.So it

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Ramdas Rao ji & Krithi ji,

 

Agastya is the grand son of Brahma. Sorry for the typo.

 

Regards,

Lakshmilakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

Sage Agastya is the son of Brahma, hence Narayana as prapitamaha had given the learned sage the upadesam.

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