Vilagna (RE: question regarding dictum)

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sanjay

P, Namaskar

Btw i

didn’t mention, as you know in the past i was assuming that vilagna referred to

‘vighatika lagna’.

 

Then

later when reading Parasara’s chapter on longevity, i saw the term; ‘hora-vi-lagna’

used. Hence i began believing that this was a term to differentiate all

vishesha lagnas. But when you look closer at this is says; “lagnahoraavilagnaabhya.mâ€.

This could also mean ‘lagnahora’ and ‘vilagna’.

Later in

the chapter on Rajya yoga, Parasara makes no use of the word ‘vi’ when

referring to the bhava, hora and ghatika lagna.

 

With

time i realized, when cross-checking dictums across classics, that i would run

into the word; vilagna vs lagna for the same dictum. Here Guruji came to the

rescue;

He once

showed me a small paragraph he wrote about vi-lagna in particular. Here he

mentioned that the word; ‘vi’ refers to an object moving towards a target, like

an arrow, or like the Sun moving towards Sunset. So any lagna which does not

follow this philosophy and is merely circular and just repeats itself, is not

considered as vi-lagna.

Based on

this i consider the word ‘vilagna’ as a reference to lagna, lagnapada and

atmakaraka, or any lagna point which is used as reference depending on the subject.

This however also excludes the vishesha lagnas.

 

I’m sure

Guruji would like to keep on to this for a future release, but i thought it was

relevant.

Best

wishes,

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen

20 August 2005 15:17

sohamsa

RE: question

regarding dictum

 

 

 

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sanjay

P, Namaskar

I’m far

from being the best in this area, but isn’t something missing in the translation

of the word; “vilagnat-aste�

Vilagnat

means we should refer from the vilagna, whilst aste (danta ‘s’) , is asta or

setting/seventh house.

If this is

some grammar or sandhi rule that i’m missing, then please excuse me.

Best

wishes,

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Prabhakaran

19 August 2005 20:50

sohamsa

Re: question

regarding dictum

 

 

|| Om

Gurave Namah ||

Namaste Jyotishas,

Vaidyanatha Dixitar in Jataka parijata Chapter 1 says this

 

sabhAnurindhuH shashijashcaturthe guruH sute bhUmisutaH kutumbe |

bhR^iguH sapatne ravijaH kalatre vilagnataste viphalA bhavanti || 72||

 

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sabhÄnurindhuḥ

śaśijaścaturthe guruḥ

sute bhūmisutaḥ

kutumbe |

bhṛguḥ sapatne ravijaḥ kalatre

vilagnataste viphalÄ bhavanti || 72||

 

Mercury in 4th, Jupiter in 5th, Mars in 2nd, Venus in 7th, Saturn in 7th

Becomes Viphala.

Here it's interesting to note that Only Benefics in their Kaaraka Bhava becomes

Viphala (Fruitless)

 

Another Point to note is word 'Vilagna' is used, Narasimhaji once in a

conversation said that ViLagna can mean all special lagnas, As the prefic Vi is

to indicate speciality.So, this will give another important clue about using

special lagna.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

 

On 8/19/05, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote:

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna

||

 

Namaste Bipin Ji & Partha Ji,

 

 

 

 

 

In Bipins' case, parivartana could be the

cause. However, I would like to hear more about wealth and education

issues that Bipin (can you forward me your chart) has experienced ,

specially in his guru MD.

 

 

 

 

 

While I have requested the source form

the person I first heard the dictum, I can understand the exception of own

houses.

 

 

 

 

 

The underlying basis of my thoughts is

the fact that being a saumya planet, guru is the giver, naturally it likes to

give away everything it has to everyone. therefore, jupitarian aspects are

always benefical than its house. Opposite seems to be true for saturn.

 

 

 

 

 

Just wanted to test waters..case in

point:- my chart has jupiter exalted in 2nd, and I am(myself) virtually

penniless and about to start Guru MD.

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

Gaurav Jain

 

 

 

*tat

savitur varenyam*

 

 

 

 

 

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