Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 And, Rahu & Ketu are in Leo again in D-20 of the dream chart, 8th house this time! Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Lakshmi garu, Namaste, My comments below, You are very correct in interpreting that this dream is a signal to go ahead and create, because in the dream chart Moon is Vrishabha, in the dream asc (9th house from ascending sign), in Rohini nakshatra, and Brahma /Prajapathi is the ruler. And moon is the putrakaraka, indicating creation again! Ketu in Kanya can symbolize Ganesha and Moon in a prithvi tattwa rasi, aspected by Venus from scorpio indicates the turmeric turning into paste. Mother has indeed blessed you with the power to create, so you must go ahead and make a Ganesha, a profound and monumental work, as a tribute to Mother. Perhaps it is another indication also of hitherto-dry gynana moistened with devotion, so that the body of your work can please both the gynaanis and the bhaktas. I would also interpret it as ascension of kundalini to swadhistana chakra from Mooladhara. {Vishnu:} What can I say? You stole my words right off my mouth! Ketu(Ganesha) is in Hasta-the fist(s), indicating gain/ control (of object). Does this indicate siddhi of mantra? I recall my deeksha guru initiating me first with Ganesha mantra and telling me " You should gain siddhi of this mantra in a year! " . I don't know if she meant, I will or I should. Yes, it is just past a year! As a matter of coincidence she closed her right fist to indicate " gain siddhi " ! Another interesting point, I received initiation on sankashta chaturthi(Krishna Chaturthi) and the dream we are discussing also occured on sankashta chaturthi! I think I did not use the appropriate word while describing turmeric changing to paste. A more appropraite word is " viscous fluid " . I think it means that knowledge(jupiter/ heap of turmeric) in silver plate( exalted Moon) is now ready to flow! Since Rohini nakshatra also represents a red "cow" or Surabhi, and is ruled by Moon, I am sure you have received the grace of your Deeksha guru, the "Kaama dhenu", because Moon is transiting very close to Jupiter (your natal BK) in your D-20. {Vishnu:} Yes, it certainly appears that my deeksha guru is happy(exalted moon)! Did I tell you that in sankalpa I add the words " guru kataaksha sidhyartham " In your navamsa, I see that the navamsa lagna(Ketu) lord and karakamsa lagna lord (Jup) have conjoined (Ganesha) in the 9th from karakamsa. Ketu being the 12th lord from karakamsa can also indicate Ganapati being the Ishta / dharmadevata / Guru devata, though you worship Pratyangira devi (lion-faced, if I am not mistaken!). {Vishnu:}Yes, you are right I adore The Mother in her fierce form(Pratyangira(especially), Kaalika and Ugra Chandi). However, it is not that I don't worship Ganesha. He is the first I invoke after my bath every morning since my upanayana(1991). warm regards, Vishnu -- Om Akhanda mandalaakaaramvyaptam yena charaa charamtatpadam darsita yena tasmai sri gurave namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Vishnu, I am very happy to know that Mother Karunamayi (Vijayeshwari devi) had blessed you with Ganesha mantra as deeksha mantra, for that in itself ensures siddhi! She, ofcourse, certainly knew which Deity would respond to you soonest, because i honestly think that the term " ishta " is mutual and applies both ways, and the fact that Rohini is the " ishta " of Moon further reinforces it. The term " viscous fluid " implies an intermediate state, and might require further effort on your part before it flows. If the term implies turmeric water, then I feel that some kind of " shudhi " ...internal because of Moon's involvement...is being indicated, before siddhi can be attained. But the goal is within sight, and Ganesha is very much looking at you, so do keep up the sadhana. Did I tell you that in sankalpa I add the > words " guru kataaksha > sidhyartham " Vishnu, please also add " Parameshwari preethyartham " to your sankalpam, and ask for nothing else. Because She knows. > {Vishnu:}Yes, you are right I adore The Mother in > her fierce > form(Pratyangira(especially), Kaalika and Ugra > Chandi). And, your Guru is such a peaceful Lady:--))May She always be with you. Affly, Lakshmi Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Naaraayan, Nice meeting you too at the conference. Details below Vishnu Birth Chart May 13, 1972Time: 7:42:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " Hyderabad, India Vishnu_Ganapati_dream_chart_3 October 20, 2005Time: 5:10:00 amTime Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 89 W 24' 04 " , 43 N 04' 23 " Madison, Wisconsin, USA Altitude: 863.00 meters warm regards, Vishnu On 10/26/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa wrote: OM hriim namasivayaNamaste Vishnu,Could you please post your birth details.Thanks NarayanPS: It was nice meeting you at the Boston Conference .sohamsa , Vishnu Jandhyala <jvishnu@g...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Lakshmi garu,> > Namaste,> > My comments below,> > > > > You are very correct in interpreting that this dream> > is a signal to go ahead and create, because in the> > dream chart Moon is Vrishabha, in the dream asc (9th> > house from ascending sign), in Rohini nakshatra, and > > Brahma /Prajapathi is the ruler. And moon is the> > putrakaraka, indicating creation again! Ketu in Kanya> > can symbolize Ganesha and Moon in a prithvi tattwa> > rasi, aspected by Venus from scorpio indicates the > > turmeric turning into paste. Mother has indeed blessed> > you with the power to create, so you must go ahead and> > make a Ganesha, a profound and monumental work, as a> > tribute to Mother. Perhaps it is another indication > > also of hitherto-dry gynana moistened with devotion,> > so that the body of your work can please both the> > gynaanis and the bhaktas. I would also interpret it as> > ascension of kundalini to swadhistana chakra from > > Mooladhara.> > > {Vishnu:} What can I say? You stole my words right off my mouth!> > Ketu(Ganesha) is in Hasta-the fist(s), indicating gain/ control (of object).> > Does this indicate siddhi of mantra? I recall my deeksha guru initiating me> first with Ganesha mantra and telling me " You should gain siddhi of this> mantra in a year! " . I don't know if she meant, I will or I should. Yes, it> is just past a year! As a matter of coincidence she closed her right fist to> indicate " gain siddhi " !> > Another interesting point, I received initiation on sankashta > chaturthi(Krishna Chaturthi) and the dream we are discussing also occured on> sankashta chaturthi!> > I think I did not use the appropriate word while describing turmeric> changing to paste. A more appropraite word is " viscous fluid " . I think it> means that knowledge(jupiter/ heap of turmeric) in silver plate( exalted> Moon) is now ready to flow!> > Since Rohini nakshatra also represents a red " cow " or> > Surabhi, and is ruled by Moon, I am sure you have > > received the grace of your Deeksha guru, the " Kaama> > dhenu " , because Moon is transiting very close to> > Jupiter (your natal BK) in your D-20.> > > {Vishnu:} Yes, it certainly appears that my deeksha guru is happy (exalted> moon)! Did I tell you that in sankalpa I add the words " guru kataaksha> sidhyartham " > > In your navamsa, I see that the navamsa lagna(Ketu)> > lord and karakamsa lagna lord (Jup) have conjoined > > (Ganesha) in the 9th from karakamsa. Ketu being the> > 12th lord from karakamsa can also indicate Ganapati> > being the Ishta / dharmadevata / Guru devata, though> > you worship Pratyangira devi (lion-faced, if I am not > > mistaken!).> > > {Vishnu:}Yes, you are right I adore The Mother in her fierce> form(Pratyangira(especially), Kaalika and Ugra Chandi). However, it is not> that I don't worship Ganesha. He is the first I invoke after my bath every> morning since my upanayana(1991).> > warm regards,> > Vishnu> > > > --> Om Akhanda mandalaakaaram> vyaptam yena charaa charam > tatpadam darsita yena> tasmai sri gurave namah> *tat savitur varenyam* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Vishnu, Ganesha is your Ishta Devata, I this is very auspicious. You Ak is Sun, 12th Sc in D9 has two lords MArs being conjoined Ak cannot take to Ishta. So it's Ketu the other lord conjoined Jupiter!. So it is Gajavakra. Lord Ganesha is lord of numbers so you will do good in Jyotish Studies or find some important secret in Jyotish soon I would say. In the dream chart, Without aspect of Sun or Moon on Dream lagna the possibity of dream having any revelation of future is not possible. The luminaries show the truth in the dream, without truth dream cannot have possibility of indicating the future. So, here instead of lagna, lets assume that Moon in 9th will have impact. As the 9th the Ruling house for Dream. Vishnu_Ganapati_dream Natal Chart October 20, 2005 Time: 5:10:00 am Sunrise: 7:21:00 am (October 19) Sunset: 6:03:26 pm (October 19) the night duration is about is about 13h24m and there is 2:11 more left for sunrise. So in about 2 months (1.9month) approximately this dreams results should be visible. Warm Regards Sanjay P On 10/26/05, Vishnu Jandhyala <jvishnu wrote: || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Naaraayan, Nice meeting you too at the conference. Details below Vishnu Birth Chart May 13, 1972Time: 7:42:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " Hyderabad, India Vishnu_Ganapati_dream_chart_3 October 20, 2005Time: 5:10:00 amTime Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 89 W 24' 04 " , 43 N 04' 23 " Madison, Wisconsin, USA Altitude: 863.00 meters warm regards, Vishnu On 10/26/05, naaraayana_iyer < jaimini.upadesa wrote: OM hriim namasivaya Namaste Vishnu,Could you please post your birth details.Thanks NarayanPS: It was nice meeting you at the Boston Conference .sohamsa , Vishnu Jandhyala <jvishnu@g...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Lakshmi garu,> > Namaste,> > My comments below,> > > > > You are very correct in interpreting that this dream> > is a signal to go ahead and create, because in the> > dream chart Moon is Vrishabha, in the dream asc (9th> > house from ascending sign), in Rohini nakshatra, and > > Brahma /Prajapathi is the ruler. And moon is the> > putrakaraka, indicating creation again! Ketu in Kanya> > can symbolize Ganesha and Moon in a prithvi tattwa> > rasi, aspected by Venus from scorpio indicates the > > turmeric turning into paste. Mother has indeed blessed> > you with the power to create, so you must go ahead and> > make a Ganesha, a profound and monumental work, as a> > tribute to Mother. Perhaps it is another indication > > also of hitherto-dry gynana moistened with devotion,> > so that the body of your work can please both the> > gynaanis and the bhaktas. I would also interpret it as> > ascension of kundalini to swadhistana chakra from > > Mooladhara.> > > {Vishnu:} What can I say? You stole my words right off my mouth!> > Ketu(Ganesha) is in Hasta-the fist(s), indicating gain/ control (of object).> > Does this indicate siddhi of mantra? I recall my deeksha guru initiating me> first with Ganesha mantra and telling me " You should gain siddhi of this> mantra in a year! " . I don't know if she meant, I will or I should. Yes, it> is just past a year! As a matter of coincidence she closed her right fist to> indicate " gain siddhi " !> > Another interesting point, I received initiation on sankashta > chaturthi(Krishna Chaturthi) and the dream we are discussing also occured on> sankashta chaturthi!> > I think I did not use the appropriate word while describing turmeric> changing to paste. A more appropraite word is " viscous fluid " . I think it> means that knowledge(jupiter/ heap of turmeric) in silver plate( exalted> Moon) is now ready to flow!> > Since Rohini nakshatra also represents a red " cow " or> > Surabhi, and is ruled by Moon, I am sure you have > > received the grace of your Deeksha guru, the " Kaama> > dhenu " , because Moon is transiting very close to> > Jupiter (your natal BK) in your D-20.> > > {Vishnu:} Yes, it certainly appears that my deeksha guru is happy (exalted> moon)! Did I tell you that in sankalpa I add the words " guru kataaksha> sidhyartham " > > In your navamsa, I see that the navamsa lagna(Ketu)> > lord and karakamsa lagna lord (Jup) have conjoined > > (Ganesha) in the 9th from karakamsa. Ketu being the> > 12th lord from karakamsa can also indicate Ganapati> > being the Ishta / dharmadevata / Guru devata, though> > you worship Pratyangira devi (lion-faced, if I am not > > mistaken!).> > > {Vishnu:}Yes, you are right I adore The Mother in her fierce> form(Pratyangira(especially), Kaalika and Ugra Chandi). However, it is not> that I don't worship Ganesha. He is the first I invoke after my bath every> morning since my upanayana(1991).> > warm regards,> > Vishnu> > > > --> Om Akhanda mandalaakaaram> vyaptam yena charaa charam > tatpadam darsita yena> tasmai sri gurave namah> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste Sanjay, This mail of yours to Vishnu, has risen a doubt in me. I always believed my Ishta was Ganesha, because, in Rashi, Sc is 12Th from AK. Ketu is with Jup and Mars alone, so Ketu becomes lord of Sc. I carried this to the D9. Did I do wrong? In D9, Mars is alone and Ketu is with AK.(My AK is vargottam). We discussed this in Lakshmi's house in 2002. It was concluded then, that I had my Ishta with my AK. So now I am a little confused. Please enlighten me. Regards, Rema --- Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Vishnu, > > Ganesha is your Ishta Devata, I this is very > auspicious. > You Ak is Sun, 12th Sc in D9 has two lords MArs > being conjoined Ak cannot > take to Ishta. So it's Ketu the other lord conjoined > Jupiter!. > So it is Gajavakra. > Lord Ganesha is lord of numbers so you will do good > in Jyotish Studies or > find some important secret in Jyotish soon I would > say. > > In the dream chart, Without aspect of Sun or Moon on > Dream lagna the > possibity of dream having any revelation of future > is not possible. The > luminaries show the truth in the dream, without > truth dream cannot have > possibility of indicating the future. > So, here instead of lagna, lets assume that Moon in > 9th will have impact. As > the 9th the Ruling house for Dream. > > Vishnu_Ganapati_dream > > Natal Chart > > October 20, 2005 > Time: 5:10:00 am > Sunrise: 7:21:00 am (October 19) > Sunset: 6:03:26 pm (October 19) > > the night duration is about is about 13h24m and > there is 2:11 more left for > sunrise. So in about 2 months (1.9month) > approximately this dreams results > should be visible. > > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > > > > On 10/26/05, Vishnu Jandhyala <jvishnu > wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Namaste Naaraayan, > > Nice meeting you too at the conference. Details > below > > > > Vishnu Birth Chart > > > > May 13, 1972 > > Time: 7:42:00 pm > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " > > Hyderabad, India > > > > Vishnu_Ganapati_dream_chart_3 > > > > October 20, 2005 > > Time: 5:10:00 am > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 89 W 24' 04 " , 43 N 04' 23 " > > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > > Altitude: 863.00 meters > > > > warm regards, > > > > Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > On 10/26/05, naaraayana_iyer > <jaimini.upadesa wrote: > > > > > OM hriim namasivaya > > > > > > Namaste Vishnu, > > > > > > Could you please post your birth details. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Narayan > > > PS: It was nice meeting you at the Boston > Conference . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Vishnu > Jandhyala <jvishnu@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Lakshmi garu, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > My comments below, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are very correct in interpreting that > this dream > > > > > is a signal to go ahead and create, because > in the > > > > > dream chart Moon is Vrishabha, in the dream > asc (9th > > > > > house from ascending sign), in Rohini > nakshatra, and > > > > > Brahma /Prajapathi is the ruler. And moon is > the > > > > > putrakaraka, indicating creation again! Ketu > in Kanya > > > > > can symbolize Ganesha and Moon in a prithvi > tattwa > > > > > rasi, aspected by Venus from scorpio > indicates the > > > > > turmeric turning into paste. Mother has > indeed blessed > > > > > you with the power to create, so you must go > ahead and > > > > > make a Ganesha, a profound and monumental > work, as a > > > > > tribute to Mother. Perhaps it is another > indication > > > > > also of hitherto-dry gynana moistened with > devotion, > > > > > so that the body of your work can please > both the > > > > > gynaanis and the bhaktas. I would also > interpret it as > > > > > ascension of kundalini to swadhistana chakra > from > > > > > Mooladhara. > > > > > > > > > > > > {Vishnu:} What can I say? You stole my words > right off my mouth! > > > > > > > > Ketu(Ganesha) is in Hasta-the fist(s), > indicating gain/ control > > > (of object). > > > > > > > > Does this indicate siddhi of mantra? I recall > my deeksha guru > > > initiating me > > > > first with Ganesha mantra and telling me " You > should gain siddhi > > > of this > > > > mantra in a year! " . I don't know if she meant, > I will or I should. > > > Yes, it > > > > is just past a year! As a matter of > coincidence she closed her > > > right fist to > > > > indicate " gain siddhi " ! > > > > > > > > Another interesting point, I received > initiation on sankashta > > > > chaturthi(Krishna Chaturthi) and the dream we > are discussing also > > > occured on > > > > sankashta chaturthi! > > > > > > > > I think I did not use the appropriate word > while describing > > > turmeric > > > > changing to paste. A more appropraite word is > " viscous fluid " . I > > > think it > > > > means that knowledge(jupiter/ heap of > turmeric) in silver plate( > > > exalted > > > > Moon) is now ready to flow! > > > > > > > > Since Rohini nakshatra also represents a red > " cow " or > > > > > Surabhi, and is ruled by Moon, I am sure you > have > > > > > received the grace of your Deeksha guru, the > " Kaama > > > > > dhenu " , because Moon is transiting very > close to > > > > > Jupiter (your natal BK) in your D-20. > > > > > > > > > > > > {Vishnu:} Yes, it certainly appears that my > deeksha guru is happy > > > (exalted > === message truncated === Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Sanjay, Namaste, " The luminaries show the truth in the dream, without truth dream cannot have possibility of indicating the future. " I disagree with your statement/ observation. Lagna is truth/ satya peetha! Lagna doesn't need Sun, Moon or any other graha/ planet to hold a candle to validate its truthfulness! Truth is truth, irrespective of a point of reference! If I may add, it probably is one of the reasons why most seers haven't been able to describe " Lagna " . warm regards, Vishnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Vishnu, " The luminaries show the truth in the dream, without truth dream cannot have possibility of indicating the future. " I disagree with your statement/ observation. Lagna is truth/ satya peetha! Lagna doesn't need Sun, Moon or any other graha/ planet to hold a candle to validate its truthfulness! Truth is truth, irrespective of a point of reference! Just as that statement I agree with you, Yes Truth does change. Truth Pure good etc. But such general statements are ambigous. The Dream is Untrue (You can now say that even this life is untrue!), So to clarify, This dream is different from sleep world and living world. Not all dreams are clairvoyant is my point. To differentiate between dreams which have potency to have some clairvoyance. You can have to have some parameters. What I said is from What I have learnt, Sun and Moon are day and Night makers so this have something to with it could be clue I think of. Of course you can disagree. Warm Regards Sanjay P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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