Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Nitin and Vishwanadhan, Tapasvi Yoga has to be BOTH in the rashi AND navamsha for it to be activated. If the Tapasvi Yoga is not in the dharmamsa, it has no meaning. She has Ketu in Arudha lagna with other benefics...that can explain her 'perceived image' in the world. Her 9th lord Venus is not good. It is conjoined Ketu and it is common knowledge that Ketu finishes Venus. Secondly, Venus is in Saturn's sign, which according to Prashna Marga is one of the worst placements for Venus. The 5th lord Saturn is in lagna in marana karaka. That explains quite a bit. On the other hand she has the powerful exchnage between AK and Surya, which send off the Sun to a marana karaka position. But what is interesting is that her karakamsha is quite powerful. See that Gajakesari there? It involves the navamsha lagna and the karakamsha and is kendra to both...that wonderful bhagya which has shot to her to such wondrous fame. very strong atmabala...she must have strove very hard to reach the top. What was the chart details that Vishwanadhan has? Best Regards, Sarbani Nitin K [sjc] Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:24 AMsohamsa Subject: Vairagya (Britney Spears)... ||| Aum Krishna Guru |||Dear Viswanadham Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. It would have been helpful if you had shared birth details here. More below...Firstly, the chart details you have are slightly different than what I have: December 2, 19811:30:00 (6:00 West)89 W 3034 N 48Virgo (Kanya) RisingMeena (Pisces) Navamsa rising... this is a chart of a highly spiritual person irrespective of what is "perceived" by the audience -- the UL, amongst others. Look at the Tapaswi Yog (Shani+Ketu+Venus) complete in a trinal position both the Rashi as well as the Dasamsa. You mentioned an exchange (parivartna) of grahas in the Kendras. With this chart, whilst there is an exchange, it is between the Mithuna Bhava (3rd House) and the Vyaya Bhava (12th House). Robert Koch the chart at length at the SJC West Coast '05 Conference. Best wishes, Nitin.|| Namah Shivaaya ||>>>>>>>>>>>>Britney_SpearsNatal Chart December 2, 1981Time: 1:30:00Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 89 W 30' 00", 34 N 48' 00" Altitude: 0.00 metersLunar Yr-Mo: Durmati - MargasiraTithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (80.49% left)Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (34.11% left)Yoga: Dhruva (Ke) (35.78% left)Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (60.97% left)Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Pi)Mahakala Hora: Saturn (5 min sign: Cn)Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Jupiter)Sunrise: 6:47:48 (December 1)Sunset: 16:45:32 (December 1)Janma Ghatis: 46.7584Ayanamsa: 23-36-00.48Sidereal Time: 6:16:14Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi NavamsaLagna 9 Vi 47' 49.38" UPha 4 Vi PiSun - PiK 16 Sc 26' 37.41" Anu 4 Sc ScMoon - MK 18 Cp 47' 07.35" Srav 3 Cp GeMars - AK 29 Le 41' 08.44" UPha 1 Le SgMercury - PK 11 Sc 50' 05.52" Anu 3 Sc LiJupiter - GK 7 Li 25' 08.84" Swat 1 Li SgVenus - DK 1 Cp 30' 51.27" USha 2 Cp CpSaturn - BK 25 Vi 40' 36.91" Chit 1 Vi LeRahu - AmK 1 Cn 09' 23.25" Puna 4 Cn CnKetu 1 Cp 09' 23.25" USha 2 Cp CpMaandi 0 Ge 09' 27.24" Mrig 3 Ge LiGulika 16 Ta 54' 46.79" Rohi 3 Ta Ge<<<<<<<<<<<<--Viswanadham <vishwanathamsohamsa Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 21:01:30 -0800>-->Hare Rama Krishna>>Dear Friends, Namaskar>>One example i can think, is of Britney Spears:>She has Sun in the 12th from Karakamsa (Mars is her AK).>>She portrays herself as very spiritual, yet 'delivery' of her dances do not>indicate so!>>Mars & Sun are in kendras and in mutual exchange in her Rasi chart. (Please>refer to astrodatabank site for birth details).>>regards>viswanadham>>>On 12/2/05, Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 wrote:>>>> *|| Hare Rama Krishna ||*>>>> Dear Agatha,>>>> namaskar. I agree.>>>> Best Wishes,>>>> Sourav>>>> ==================================>> sohamsa , agatha christie <agathachristie22>>> wrote:>> >>> > || Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaaya ||>> >>> > Dear Nitin,>> >>> > ""12th from Ak is the natural desires of the soul" [Perhaps Sanjay P was>> trying to communicate something else?] ">> >>> > I think he was trying to say (atleast thats how I understood it, after>> reading his entire email & Visti's email) is :>> >>> > "From this I understand that, the planet in 12th from Karakamsa or lord>> of that sign, indicates the soul's inclination to a quality represented by>> that Diety & hence the Worship of that Diety. If this is afflicted then it>> could give rise to the corresponding bad/evil deeds. ">> >>> > And,>> >>> > "So the quality represented by the Diety is the important point here,>> thats how we can co-relate it with cultures/people who do not puja etc.">> >>> > Which I think is what you also said as below,>> >>> > "Yes -- the qualities of nature / elements carry a universal message>> irrespective of religion / religious beliefs. This will be applicable for>> even those who do not follow some form of ritual such as Puja / prayer">> >>> > I hope others also reply.>> >>> > Thanks.>> >>> > Regards,>> > Sonali>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Nitin K sjc@j... wrote:>> > ||| Om Namo Naaraayanayaa |||>> >>> > Dear Sonali and List Members, Namaskaar.>> >>> > I do not agree with the below:>> > "12th from Ak is the natural desires of the soul">> > [Perhaps Sanjay P was trying to communicate something else?]>> >>> > The desire of the chara Atmakaraka is seen from the 7th from itself in>> the Navamsa (D9).>> >>> > For example, one of the reasons that people having Rahu as the Chara>> Atmakaraka are considered highly spiritual is because in the Navamsa,>> Mokshakaraka Ketu will always be opposite the Kaarakamsa...>> >>> > The "Jivan Muktamsa" as we read is roughly translated as that which>> frees the life force...>> >>> > Yes -- the qualities of nature / elements carry a universal message>> irrespective of religion / religious beliefs. This will be applicable for>> even those who do not follow some form of ritual such as Puja / prayer(s).>> > [Again, this does not imply that such people are not spiritual or>> believe in divinity.]>> >>> > Hope that some of this helps.>> >>> > Best wishes,>> > Nitin.>> >>> > || Namah Shivaaya || ______________Sent via the WebMail system at justnitin.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 ||| Aum Krishna Guru ||| Dear Sarbani and list members, Namaskaar. Yes -- Robert Prabhu took Shani's (Saturn's) aspect to Shukra (Venus) and Ketu in the Navamsa to complete the Tapaswi yog. Shani and Shukra have rashi drishti to each other in the Dharmamsa. She has indeed worked and stirved hard to reach where she is. Jaimini also states that if Rahi were in the 12th or the 7th from the Arudha Lagna, the person is very spiritual. This is seen in this chart. Vishwanadhan did not provide any other chart details here. Best wishes, Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || -- " Sarbani Sarkar " <sarbani sohamsa Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:31:40 +0530 >-- >Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > >Dear Nitin and Vishwanadhan, > >Tapasvi Yoga has to be BOTH in the rashi AND navamsha for it to be >activated. If the Tapasvi Yoga is not in the dharmamsa, it has no meaning. >She has Ketu in Arudha lagna with other benefics...that can explain her >'perceived image' in the world. Her 9th lord Venus is not good. It is >conjoined Ketu and it is common knowledge that Ketu finishes Venus. >Secondly, Venus is in Saturn's sign, which according to Prashna Marga is one >of the worst placements for Venus. The 5th lord Saturn is in lagna in marana >karaka. That explains quite a bit. > >On the other hand she has the powerful exchnage between AK and Surya, which >send off the Sun to a marana karaka position. But what is interesting is >that her karakamsha is quite powerful. See that Gajakesari there? It >involves the navamsha lagna and the karakamsha and is kendra to both...that >wonderful bhagya which has shot to her to such wondrous fame. very strong >atmabala...she must have strove very hard to reach the top. > >What was the chart details that Vishwanadhan has? > >Best Regards, > >Sarbani > > > > > _____ > >Nitin K [sjc] >Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:24 AM >sohamsa > Vairagya (Britney Spears)... > > >||| Aum Krishna Guru ||| > >Dear Viswanadham Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > >It would have been helpful if you had shared birth details here. More >below... > > > >Firstly, the chart details you have are slightly different than what I have: > > >December 2, 1981 >1:30:00 (6:00 West) >89 W 30 >34 N 48 > >Virgo (Kanya) Rising >Meena (Pisces) Navamsa rising > >... this is a chart of a highly spiritual person irrespective of what is > " perceived " by the audience -- the UL, amongst others. > >Look at the Tapaswi Yog (Shani+Ketu+Venus) complete in a trinal position >both the Rashi as well as the Dasamsa. > >You mentioned an exchange (parivartna) of grahas in the Kendras. With this >chart, whilst there is an exchange, it is between the Mithuna Bhava (3rd >House) and the Vyaya Bhava (12th House). > >Robert Koch the chart at length at the SJC West Coast '05 Conference. > >Best wishes, >Nitin. > >|| Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >Britney_Spears > >Natal Chart > > December 2, 1981 >Time: 1:30:00 >Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) >Place: 89 W 30' 00 " , 34 N 48' 00 " > >Altitude: 0.00 meters > >Lunar Yr-Mo: Durmati - Margasira >Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (80.49% left) >Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma) >Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (34.11% left) >Yoga: Dhruva (Ke) (35.78% left) >Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (60.97% left) >Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Pi) >Mahakala Hora: Saturn (5 min sign: Cn) >Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Jupiter) > >Sunrise: 6:47:48 (December 1) >Sunset: 16:45:32 (December 1) >Janma Ghatis: 46.7584 > >Ayanamsa: 23-36-00.48 >Sidereal Time: 6:16:14 > >Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > >Lagna 9 Vi 47' 49.38 " UPha 4 Vi Pi >Sun - PiK 16 Sc 26' 37.41 " Anu 4 Sc Sc >Moon - MK 18 Cp 47' 07.35 " Srav 3 Cp Ge >Mars - AK 29 Le 41' 08.44 " UPha 1 Le Sg >Mercury - PK 11 Sc 50' 05.52 " Anu 3 Sc Li >Jupiter - GK 7 Li 25' 08.84 " Swat 1 Li Sg >Venus - DK 1 Cp 30' 51.27 " USha 2 Cp Cp >Saturn - BK 25 Vi 40' 36.91 " Chit 1 Vi Le >Rahu - AmK 1 Cn 09' 23.25 " Puna 4 Cn Cn >Ketu 1 Cp 09' 23.25 " USha 2 Cp Cp >Maandi 0 Ge 09' 27.24 " Mrig 3 Ge Li >Gulika 16 Ta 54' 46.79 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge > > > > ><<<<<<<<<<<< > > >-- >Viswanadham <vishwanatham >sohamsa > Fri, 2 Dec 2005 21:01:30 -0800 > >>-- > >>Hare Rama Krishna >> >>Dear Friends, Namaskar >> >>One example i can think, is of Britney Spears: >>She has Sun in the 12th from Karakamsa (Mars is her AK). >> >>She portrays herself as very spiritual, yet 'delivery' of her dances do not >>indicate so! >> >>Mars & Sun are in kendras and in mutual exchange in her Rasi chart. (Please >>refer to astrodatabank site for birth details). >> >>regards >>viswanadham >> >> >>On 12/2/05, Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 wrote: >>> >>> *|| Hare Rama Krishna ||* >>> >>> Dear Agatha, >>> >>> namaskar. I agree. >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> Sourav >>> >>> ================================== >>> sohamsa , agatha christie <agathachristie22> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > || Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaaya || >>> > >>> > Dear Nitin, >>> > >>> > " " 12th from Ak is the natural desires of the soul " [Perhaps Sanjay P >was >>> trying to communicate something else?] " >>> > >>> > I think he was trying to say (atleast thats how I understood it, after >>> reading his entire email & Visti's email) is : >>> > >>> > " From this I understand that, the planet in 12th from Karakamsa or lord >>> of that sign, indicates the soul's inclination to a quality represented >by >>> that Diety & hence the Worship of that Diety. If this is afflicted then >it >>> could give rise to the corresponding bad/evil deeds. " >>> > >>> > And, >>> > >>> > " So the quality represented by the Diety is the important point here, >>> thats how we can co-relate it with cultures/people who do not puja etc. " >>> > >>> > Which I think is what you also said as below, >>> > >>> > " Yes -- the qualities of nature / elements carry a universal message >>> irrespective of religion / religious beliefs. This will be applicable for >>> even those who do not follow some form of ritual such as Puja / prayer " >>> > >>> > I hope others also reply. >>> > >>> > Thanks. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Sonali >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Nitin K sjc@j... wrote: >>> > ||| Om Namo Naaraayanayaa ||| >>> > >>> > Dear Sonali and List Members, Namaskaar. >>> > >>> > I do not agree with the below: >>> > " 12th from Ak is the natural desires of the soul " >>> > [Perhaps Sanjay P was trying to communicate something else?] >>> > >>> > The desire of the chara Atmakaraka is seen from the 7th from itself in >>> the Navamsa (D9). >>> > >>> > For example, one of the reasons that people having Rahu as the Chara >>> Atmakaraka are considered highly spiritual is because in the Navamsa, >>> Mokshakaraka Ketu will always be opposite the Kaarakamsa... >>> > >>> > The " Jivan Muktamsa " as we read is roughly translated as that which >>> frees the life force... >>> > >>> > Yes -- the qualities of nature / elements carry a universal message >>> irrespective of religion / religious beliefs. This will be applicable for >>> even those who do not follow some form of ritual such as Puja / >prayer(s). >>> > [Again, this does not imply that such people are not spiritual or >>> believe in divinity.] >>> > >>> > Hope that some of this helps. >>> > >>> > Best wishes, >>> > Nitin. >>> > >>> > || Namah Shivaaya || ______________ Sent via the WebMail system at justnitin.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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