Strength of planet - Rasi vs house position

[Guest guest]

Dear Gurujans & friends

 

I have a query related to stength of planet:

 

In one of the article on strength of planet I have read the following:

 

" House position is more important than sign position. For example. it

is better if jupiter is debilitated in a good house, like the ninth,

than exalted in a bad house, like the eighth. "

 

Does it mean that while analysing Diginity of planets should be given

less weightage than Directional strength (i.e position of the house).

 

Is it applicable while analysing any planet wrt Ascendent, Moon sign,

Sun sign in Rasi chart.

 

What is the logic behind it?

 

Regards

 

Shree narayan

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Shree Narayan,

Namaste

 

If Jupiter is debilitated in the 9th, it shows the quality of your Guru.

For a female chart, possbily of her husband and children.It is not in

marana in the 8th (sthana bala). Exaltation there would mean an innate

knowledge of the occult. All these can be verified or fortified from the

navamsa.

Dik Bala - Directional strength. This would be good in ascertaining in

which part of the world you are best suited to.

 

 

 

> Dear Gurujans & friends

>

> I have a query related to stength of planet:

>

> In one of the article on strength of planet I have read the following:

>

> " House position is more important than sign position. For example. it

> is better if jupiter is debilitated in a good house, like the ninth,

> than exalted in a bad house, like the eighth. "

>

> Does it mean that while analysing Diginity of planets should be given

> less weightage than Directional strength (i.e position of the house).

>

> Is it applicable while analysing any planet wrt Ascendent, Moon sign,

> Sun sign in Rasi chart.

>

> What is the logic behind it?

>

> Regards

>

> Shree narayan

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, <swee@c...> wrote:

 

> If Jupiter is debilitated in the 9th, it shows the quality of your

Guru.

> For a female chart, possbily of her husband and children.It is not in

> marana in the 8th (sthana bala).

 

 

Dear Swee,

 

Pardon my ignorance, but I take it that marana is to be deemed in

light of sthanabala, right? Paradigm shift that, because I'd presumed

marana a somewhat dire digbala kind of thing since it's vis-a-vis the

lagna while sthanabala derived itself vis-a-vis the natural

horoscope... the cretin learns all the while, and thanks for this.

 

Respects,

 

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Rama,

Namaste

 

Dik - means direction. Sthana means the House. Very different, yes?

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

On

Behalf Of ramapriya_d

Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:52 PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house position

 

, <swee@c...> wrote:

 

> If Jupiter is debilitated in the 9th, it shows the quality of your

Guru.

> For a female chart, possbily of her husband and children.It is not in

> marana in the 8th (sthana bala).

 

 

Dear Swee,

 

Pardon my ignorance, but I take it that marana is to be deemed in

light of sthanabala, right? Paradigm shift that, because I'd presumed

marana a somewhat dire digbala kind of thing since it's vis-a-vis the

lagna while sthanabala derived itself vis-a-vis the natural

horoscope... the cretin learns all the while, and thanks for this.

 

Respects,

 

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Ramapriya,

 

Namaste

 

I should really add: Suppose for a Makara lagna, Jupiter is in the 3rd

(sthana), it is at home, so you will not expect him to suffer much there

especially where relationships and friends are concerned. The aspect on the

7th house is his exaltation sign; who knows combined with Mars (friends 2nd

from it and lord of 11th), Sun (friends; 8th Lord) and Mercury (neutral; his

analytical faculty), he might just make it to be a multi tasking

psychoanalyst ;-)

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of ramapriya_d

Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:52 PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house position

 

, <swee@c...> wrote:

 

> If Jupiter is debilitated in the 9th, it shows the quality of your

Guru.

> For a female chart, possbily of her husband and children.It is not in

> marana in the 8th (sthana bala).

 

 

Dear Swee,

 

Pardon my ignorance, but I take it that marana is to be deemed in

light of sthanabala, right? Paradigm shift that, because I'd presumed

marana a somewhat dire digbala kind of thing since it's vis-a-vis the

lagna while sthanabala derived itself vis-a-vis the natural

horoscope... the cretin learns all the while, and thanks for this.

 

Respects,

 

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> Namaste

>

> I should really add: Suppose for a Makara lagna, Jupiter is in the

3rd

> (sthana), it is at home, so you will not expect him to suffer much

there

> especially where relationships and friends are concerned. The

aspect on the

> 7th house is his exaltation sign; who knows combined with Mars

(friends 2nd

> from it and lord of 11th), Sun (friends; 8th Lord) and Mercury

(neutral; his

> analytical faculty), he might just make it to be a multi tasking

> psychoanalyst ;-)

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

 

Dear Swee,

 

I don't remember to have heard anything about how grahas would be in

7th from their marana sthanas. Is there anything about it?

 

On an introspection, I've more or less worked out how and why the

positions for marana for the various planets come from. Moon, Venus,

Saturn and Rahu have marana where they debilitate in the natural

horoscope. Mars, Jupiter and Mercury can be explained too. Sun is

the problem - why the 12th and why not 7th? And why not 12th for

Mercury? Still thinking

 

Respects,

 

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

[Guest guest]

This bouncing of mails is on a daily basis....what a trudge with and

copper-net

 

Swee

 

 

 

Swee Chan [swee]

Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:08 AM

 

RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house position

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Rama,

Namaste

 

And the Sun shines forth. He's so lovely in the first house where he

naturally dominates.........how can but his ego take a knock in the

reclusive 12th? Will his heat not cause him to be a pyromaniac in the 12th

;-) ?? that's the dictum; add Mars' house in there or Mars' aspect where

Sun's big ego excels.

And why not in the 7th? Parasara clearly stated, even he (the ego, Sun) can

weaken at the knees (debilitated in 7th) and lose his empire to Eros'

whims.........which is not the purpose of the natural atma. See, He and no

others can shine like he does as they shrivel (retrograde and combust)

whenever and wherever his Ego desires (natural indicator of the ascendant).

But in the end, if he is in a friend's house in the 12th his exploits may

well collect the accolades he simply enjoys.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of ramapriya_d

Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:22 AM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house position

 

, " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> Namaste

>

> I should really add: Suppose for a Makara lagna, Jupiter is in the

3rd

> (sthana), it is at home, so you will not expect him to suffer much

there

> especially where relationships and friends are concerned. The

aspect on the

> 7th house is his exaltation sign; who knows combined with Mars

(friends 2nd

> from it and lord of 11th), Sun (friends; 8th Lord) and Mercury

(neutral; his

> analytical faculty), he might just make it to be a multi tasking

> psychoanalyst ;-)

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

 

Dear Swee,

 

I don't remember to have heard anything about how grahas would be in

7th from their marana sthanas. Is there anything about it?

 

On an introspection, I've more or less worked out how and why the

positions for marana for the various planets come from. Moon, Venus,

Saturn and Rahu have marana where they debilitate in the natural

horoscope. Mars, Jupiter and Mercury can be explained too. Sun is

the problem - why the 12th and why not 7th? And why not 12th for

Mercury? Still thinking

 

Respects,

 

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Swee

 

From Merriam Webster

 

Pyromania:-an irresistible impulse to start fires

 

 

Am i That??

 

I hope you were not talking about me all the way !!

 

Best wishes

partha

 

 

, " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> This bouncing of mails is on a daily basis....what a trudge with

and

> copper-net

>

> Swee

>

>

>

> Swee Chan [swee@c...]

> Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:08 AM

>

> RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house

position

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Rama,

> Namaste

>

> And the Sun shines forth. He's so lovely in the first house where he

> naturally dominates.........how can but his ego take a knock in the

> reclusive 12th? Will his heat not cause him to be a pyromaniac in

the 12th

> ;-) ?? that's the dictum; add Mars' house in there or Mars' aspect

where

> Sun's big ego excels.

> And why not in the 7th? Parasara clearly stated, even he (the ego,

Sun) can

> weaken at the knees (debilitated in 7th) and lose his empire to

Eros'

> whims.........which is not the purpose of the natural atma. See, He

and no

> others can shine like he does as they shrivel (retrograde and

combust)

> whenever and wherever his Ego desires (natural indicator of the

ascendant).

> But in the end, if he is in a friend's house in the 12th his

exploits may

> well collect the accolades he simply enjoys.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

>

>

>

> [sJC-

Africa ] On

> Behalf Of ramapriya_d

> Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:22 AM

>

> Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house

position

>

> , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Ramapriya,

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> > I should really add: Suppose for a Makara lagna, Jupiter is in

the

> 3rd

> > (sthana), it is at home, so you will not expect him to suffer

much

> there

> > especially where relationships and friends are concerned. The

> aspect on the

> > 7th house is his exaltation sign; who knows combined with Mars

> (friends 2nd

> > from it and lord of 11th), Sun (friends; 8th Lord) and Mercury

> (neutral; his

> > analytical faculty), he might just make it to be a multi tasking

> > psychoanalyst ;-)

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

>

> Dear Swee,

>

> I don't remember to have heard anything about how grahas would be

in

> 7th from their marana sthanas. Is there anything about it?

>

> On an introspection, I've more or less worked out how and why the

> positions for marana for the various planets come from. Moon,

Venus,

> Saturn and Rahu have marana where they debilitate in the natural

> horoscope. Mars, Jupiter and Mercury can be explained too. Sun is

> the problem - why the 12th and why not 7th? And why not 12th for

> Mercury? Still thinking

>

> Respects,

>

> Ramapriya

> ayirpamar@g...

>

 

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

My Dear Partha,

Namaste

 

Talking about Sun in the 12th with Mars in Aries? Not

you at all, is it? More like sadhana

on the sly for you ;-)

The one that causes the fire is most likely to be Mars.

2 out of my children love playing with fire. My second son has Aries lagna and

exalted Mars with Sun and Saturn and Rahu in exchange (5th and 11th), no doubt,

a sadistic pyromaniac from age 2.5 and still plays with matches..........he's

just so intrigued with fires ;-) at 26 and also loves dissecting. But try and convince

him that he should make a good surgeon J

 

 

 

 

In case you are wondering about Mercury, it is highly

combust, with Moon in it…….congenital eczema a few days after birth.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy

Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:23 AM

 

Re: FW: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house position

 

Dear Swee

 

>From Merriam Webster

 

Pyromania:-an irresistible impulse to start fires

 

 

Am i That??

 

I hope you were not talking about me all the way !!

 

Best wishes

partha

 

 

,

" Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> This bouncing of mails is on a daily

basis....what a trudge with

and

> copper-net

>

> Swee

>

>

>

> Swee Chan [swee@c...]

> Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:08 AM

>

> RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet

- Rasi vs house

position

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Rama,

> Namaste

>

> And the Sun shines forth. He's so lovely in the

first house where he

> naturally dominates.........how can but his ego

take a knock in the

> reclusive 12th? Will his heat not cause him to be

a pyromaniac in

the 12th

> ;-) ?? that's the dictum; add Mars' house in

there or Mars' aspect

where

> Sun's big ego excels.

> And why not in the 7th? Parasara clearly stated,

even he (the ego,

Sun) can

> weaken at the knees (debilitated in 7th) and lose

his empire to

Eros'

> whims.........which is not the purpose of the

natural atma. See, He

and no

> others can shine like he does as they shrivel

(retrograde and

combust)

> whenever and wherever his Ego desires (natural

indicator of the

ascendant).

> But in the end, if he is in a friend's house in

the 12th his

exploits may

> well collect the accolades he simply enjoys.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

>

>

>

>

[sJC-

Africa ] On

> Behalf Of ramapriya_d

> Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:22 AM

>

> Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet

- Rasi vs house

position

>

> ,

" Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Ramapriya,

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> > I should really add: Suppose for a Makara

lagna, Jupiter is in

the

> 3rd

> > (sthana), it is at home, so you will not

expect him to suffer

much

> there

> > especially where relationships and friends

are concerned. The

> aspect on the

> > 7th house is his exaltation sign; who knows

combined with Mars

> (friends 2nd

> > from it and lord of 11th), Sun (friends; 8th

Lord) and Mercury

> (neutral; his

> > analytical faculty), he might just make it

to be a multi tasking

> > psychoanalyst ;-)

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

>

> Dear Swee,

>

> I don't remember to have heard anything about how

grahas would be

in

> 7th from their marana sthanas. Is there anything

about it?

>

> On an introspection, I've more or less worked out

how and why the

> positions for marana for the various planets come

from. Moon,

Venus,

> Saturn and Rahu have marana where they debilitate

in the natural

> horoscope. Mars, Jupiter and Mercury can be

explained too. Sun is

> the problem - why the 12th and why not 7th? And

why not 12th for

> Mercury? Still thinking

>

> Respects,

>

> Ramapriya

> ayirpamar@g...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Curiouser and curiouser. Wonder what's in store for our household,

with two Leos with Suns in Cancer

 

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

 

 

, " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> My Dear Partha,

> Namaste

>

> Talking about Sun in the 12th with Mars in Aries? Not you at all,

is it?

> More like sadhana on the sly for you ;-)

> The one that causes the fire is most likely to be Mars. 2 out of

my children

> love playing with fire. My second son has Aries lagna and exalted

Mars with

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Rama,

Namaste

 

Hope they do not become emotional wrecks. Dig deeper than that, won't you?

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of ramapriya_d

Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:16 PM

 

Re: FW: [Jaya Jagannatha] Strength of planet - Rasi vs house

position

 

Curiouser and curiouser. Wonder what's in store for our household,

with two Leos with Suns in Cancer

 

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

 

 

, " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> My Dear Partha,

> Namaste

>

> Talking about Sun in the 12th with Mars in Aries? Not you at all,

is it?

> More like sadhana on the sly for you ;-)

> The one that causes the fire is most likely to be Mars. 2 out of

my children

> love playing with fire. My second son has Aries lagna and exalted

Mars with