RE: Ratna Dana Vidhi: Gomeda to leper, Yellow Sapp to Brahmin

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Richard,

Namaste

 

This is what I extracted from the Purana (and NOT from Zambia - <BIG GRIN>)

which is published in the Jyotish Digest.

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ekÄśītitamo'dhÄyaḥ (Chapter 81)

 

Saturn’s yantra is in the figure of a person with black powder and worship is

with black sandalwood, flowers, pieces of black cloth and charities are, iron,

oil cakes, sesame, a black cow and a Blue Sapphire.

Saturn is inimical in Ar, Cn, Le, Sc, Sg.

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O Sun’s son, O glorious One.

O son of ChÄyÄ, O You very mighty One,

O you with the downward look,

O Çani, be pleased by means of these presents.

 

The procedure of worship is the same in the case of RÄhu, though the circular

yantra should be that of Sun., and gifts to a brÄhmaëa (purohit) are gold,

gomedha, mustard, sesame seeds, black beans, a buffalo and a goat.)

In Ketu, the procedure of worship is the same as in Çani, though gifts should

be seven kinds of grains and gold.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

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[vedic astrology] Ratna Dana Vidhi: Gomeda to leper, Yellow Sapp to

Brahmin

 

>

> Without skirting the issue here, so what about the modern writings

from Mani

> Mala? Who is the author? Any luck yet?

 

---Dear Swee. I have a copy of Mani Mala. The Author/compiler of Mani

Mala is S.M. Tagore published in 1879.

 

According to information I gleaned, the favorite of Rahu is a leper,

and anyone giving Gomeda to a leper he or she pleases Lord Rahu. That's

my information. And it works.

 

Lets not get confused about " karma " - we have a predominince of either

happiness (caused by previous good karma), or we have predomenence of

unhappiness (caused by bad karma). No one can take karma from another

because everyone is living their own karma at all times. If I give

Gomeda to a leper, the favorite of Rahu, and my life gets better, than

every bit of this is also my karma. One cannot improve their karma

without their having the karma to do so.

 

And why the predjudice against lepers? That's no way to please Rahu.

That's bigotry against the less fortunate. (*like the joke about a big

black dude who walks into a bar with a parrot sitting on his shoulder;

the bartender looks up and says, " Hey, pretty cool! Where did you get

that? " To which the parrot replies, " Zambia! " ).

 

If everyone gave gems according to Ratna arpana vidhi, to associated

planetary favorite recepients, then the world would be a better place.

The main problem in that actually most people have no faith in the

Graha Devas personally nor in yajna nor ratna-dana. So pity the

faithless.

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

>

> Love,

> Swee

>

>

> Namaste

> Gaurav jain

> In a message dated 2/21/2006 12:00:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> rsbj66 writes:

>

> Dear Swee,

>

> Namaste!!! It is more than just a gomeda to a leper. The exact

process

> of " pleasing " Rahu (which can only happen when our karma permits) is

as

> follows (note...there is some interesting info AFTER the mantras):

>

> Propitiation of Rahu (Saturday)

>

> CHARITY: Donate a hessonite or another fine orange gem, a coconut,

old

> coins or coal to a leper on Saturday.

>

> FASTING: On the first Saturday of the waxing moon, especially during

> major or minor Rahu periods.

>

> MANTRA: To be chanted on Saturday, two hours after sunset,

especially

> during major or minor Rahu periods:

>

> Rahva-astottara-shata-nama-vali

>

> (The 108 names of Rahu)

>

> Om rahave namah

> Om saumhikeyaya namah

> Om vidhuntudaya namah

> Om surashatrave namah

> Om tamase namah

> Om phanine namah

> Om gargyaynapa namah

> Om surapye namah

> Om nibajimutasamkashaya namah

> Om caturbhujava namah

> Om khangakhetaka-dharine namah

> Om varadayakahastakaya namah

> Om shulayudhaya namah

> Om megha-varnaya namah

> Om krishna-dhvajapatakavate namah

> Om dakshinashamukharathaya namah

> Om tikshnadamshtakarallakaya namah

> Om shupokarasansthaya namah

> Om gomedha-bharana-priyaya namah

> Om mashapriyaya namah

> Om kashyaparshinandanaya namah

> Om bhujageshvaraya namah

> Om ulkapatayitre namah

> Om shuline namah

> Om nidhipaya namah

> Om krishna-sarpa-raje namah

> Om vishajvalavrita ' asyaya addhashariraya namah

> Om shatravapradaya namah

> Om ravindubhikaraya namah

> Om chaya-svarupine namah

> Om kathinangakaya namah

> Om dvishacchatracchedakaya namah

> Om karallasyaya namah

> Om bhayamkaraya namah

> Om krura-karmane namah

> Om tamo-rupaya namah

> Om shyam-atmane namah

> Om nila-lohitaya namah

> Om kiritine namah

> Om nilavasanaya namah

> Om sanisamntavartmagaya namah

> Om candala-varnaya namah

> Om ashvyriksa-bhavaya namah

> Om mesha-bhavaya namah

> Om shanivat-phaladaya namah

> Om shuraya namah

> Om apasavyagataye namah

> Om uparagakagaya namah

> Om soma-surya-cchavivimardakaya namah

> Om nila-pushpa-viharaya namah

> Om graha-shreshthaya namah

> Om ashtama-grahaya namah

> Om kabamdhamatradehaya namah

> Om yatudhanakulodbhavaya namah

> Om govinda-vara-patraya namah

> Om deva-jati-pravishtakaya namah

> Om kruraya namah

> Om gharaya namah

> Om shanir-mitraya namah

> Om shukra-mitraya namah

> Om agocaraya namah

> Om mani ganga-snanadatre' namah

> Om svagrihe' pravaladhyadaya namah

> Om sad-grihe'anyabaladhrite' namah

> Om caturthe matri-nashakaya namah

> Om candrayukte candalajati sihmajanmane rajyadatre namah

> Om mahakayaya namah

> Om janma-kartre' namah

> Om vidhuripave' namah

> Om madakajnanadaya namah

> Om janmakanyarajyadatre' namah

> Om janmahanidaya namah

> Om navame pitrihantre' namah

> Om pancame' shokadayakaya namah

> Om dhyune' kalatrahantre' namah

> Om saptame kalahapradaya namah

> Om shashthe' vittadatre' namah

> Om caturthe' vairadayaka namah

> Om navame' papadatre' namah

> Om dashame shokadayakaya namah

> Om adau yashah pradatre' namah

> Om ante vairapradayakaya namah

> Om kalatmane' namah

> Om gocaracaraya namah

> Om ghane' kakutpradaya namah

> Om pancame' ghishanashringadaya namah

> Om svarbhanave' namah

> Om baline' namah

> Om maha-saukhya-pradayine' namah

> Om chandra-vairine namah

> Om shashvataya namah

> Om surashatrave' namah

> Om papagrahaya namah

> Om shambhavaya namah

> Om pujyakaya namah

> Om patirapuranaya namah

> Om paithinasakulodbhavaya bhakta-rakshaya namah

> Om rahu-murtaye' namah

> Om sarva-bhishta-phala-pradaya namah

> Om dirghaya namah

> Om krishnaya namah

> Om atanave' namah

> Om vishnu-netraraye' namah

> Om devaya namah

> Om danavaya namah.

> Rahu seed mantra: Om bhram bhrim bhraum sah rahave namah.

>

> RESULT: The planetary deity Rahu is pleased granting victory over

> enemies, favour from the King or government, and reduction in

diseases

> caused by Rahu.

>

> I not only in doing this kind of yajna or graha-shanta,

but I

> advise Royalty, heads of state, Bank Presidents, and VVIPs to do it

> also.

>

> In case of pleasing Jupiter the gem would be Yellow Sapphire or

topaz

> to be given to a brahmin on Guruvar at late afternoon during Shukla

> paksha, along with all the other items and mantras listed for Guru.

 

>

> And for pleasing Rahu it is giving a Gomeda to a leper as described

> above. Another example is to please Mars one gives a red coral to a

> Sannyasi, to please Saturn a blue sapphire and black cow given to a

> " poor young man " on Shanivar, etc.

>

> I have seen these different graha yajnas performed for many

different

> planets, and always with obvious results. In fact, the last time I

> helped arrange one such yajna was for a lady in America who was in

Rahu

> Dasha and had Rahu debilitated in the 8th house. I advised the Rahu

> Yajna or Ratna arpana to please Rahu. She already had a fine Gomeda

> weighing 7 carats, but she couldn't find a leper to give it to in

the

> USA. So I told her to send the gem to me, and I would arrange it.

> According I got the gomeda, and with a desire to participate in the

> Rahu ratna arpana myself, I had it set in silver and put with a

silver

> chain. I was ready, but, alas, in Bangkok, Thailand you cannot find

a

> single leper. So I sent the gem set with chain by hand to a friend

in

> Mumbai. This friend also had Rahu in the 8th and also wanted to

> participate in the Rahu Yajna by actually finding a leper and giving

> them the gem set pendant over their necks on a chain. This person

> waited until Shukla Paksha Shanivar and then went and gave the Rahu

> ratna talisman to a real leper, and said, Om ram rahave namah! "

They

> took a picture of when giving to the leper. The whole thing took

about

> 4 months to complete (from when the Gomeda was sent to me until it

got

> given to a leper).

>

> Result: For my little part I played in pleasing Rahu by

participating

> in this ratna dana I was rewarded with a real Valampuri Lakshmi

Conch

> that I had been seeking for 30 years, and I got it without even

asking

> or knowing within ONE WEEK of the Rahu Ratna Dana. Now, it didn't

take

> away my karma, no one can take away your karma, if we change our

karma,

> that is also our karma. So it was ripe for me to please Rahu, and

the

> result was sudden and surprising, including other signs of increased

> good fortune too, and for all concerned.

>

> We all know that " ratna-dana-vidhi " has suggested donating gems to

> please Grahadevas. And it was in Graha Gochar Jyotish that I could

find

> the further details of complete yajna-japa-recepient, which are

> different for each planet.

>

> For complete information on Ratna Dana, please see this page of my

1995

> book:

> http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/Appendage/Appendage.html

>

> Note: I transliterated the 108 slokas for each planet, although I

> didn't use diacritical fonts, that would be better still.

>

> Best rgds,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects , " Swee Chan " <swee@> wrote:

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Richard and Arjun,

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> >

> >

> > I do not to donating a gomeda to a leper. Do you? What's

he

> going

> > to do? Take away your bad karma on your behalf when he himself is

> riddled

> > with disease?

> >

> > We need to be more realistic here. The Puranas do not to

> such

> > remedies. Instead, they do suggest dakshina to a Brahmana/Purohit.

> This is

> > so that we hope the Brahmana/Purohit can take away some of our bad

> karma.

> > This can be done in one of several ways: When transits are averse

or

> just

> > before the person dies/or during a shraddha.

> >

> > My suggestion is that, gifts (of gems and other items) have to be

> new and

> > not your cast offs.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regarding the slokas sent by Richard (embedded below), these are

my

> initial

> > thoughts:

> >

> >

> >

> > The language is not ancient Sanskrit where there was less tendency

of

> using

> > synonyms there (an opinion after reading tomes of it; but am no

> expert!!)

> >

> > The slokas are more modern phenomenon to use words like " Avaneya " .

It

> is

> > interesting to note that midway in the first line of shloka 81

the

> author

> > has forgotten that he is writing for Viguna graha Dharanaa.

Certainly

> not

> > something the ancients would do! I venture a guess that this

comes

> from

> > Jaina source of astrological texts which are of a much later

origin.

> Gaurav,

> > what do you think?

> >

> >

> >

> > But there does not appear to be any variance about the ratnas that

> need to

> > be worn from that of Narada Purana as long as we relate the Ratnas

> which are

> > recommended for Dana as they relate to the grahas.

> >

> >

> >

> > What is in variance is in the matter of those that need to be

worn.

> >

> >

> >

> > A careful look indicates that the shlokas are describing Viguna -

> meaning

> > that when the grahas are inimical - for example, Jupiter is

malefic

> > (functional malefic), the recommendation is to wear Pearl. For

Cancer

> lagna

> > Jupiter will be malefic being the 6th moolatrikona lord, and here

> > strengthening Moon will certainly make sense as Jupiter is going

to

> create

> > health problems and also since Moon does not own any bad house.

More

> so if

> > Jupiter is occupying the 8th House!

> >

> >

> >

> > In the 3rd sloka, the author appears to have changed the basis on

> which he's

> > written the first two shlokas.

> >

> >

> >

> > For the meaning to be clear, one must also get the shlokas, that

> indicate

> > what is Viguna. I assume that it must be given the book. Much

would

> depend

> > on which position of a graha or its rasi is called as Viguna.

> >

> >

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of

panditarjun2004

> > Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:28 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Translation of slokas from Mani

Mala

> on

> > Planetary G...

> >

> >

> >

> > namaste richard ji

> >

> >

> >

> > the simple rule of anukul/pratikul remedies are clear like this.

> >

> >

> >

> > retain or wear the objects of a beneficial planet.

> >

> > donate or throw in water the objects of a malefic planet.

> >

> >

> >

> > in lalkitab system of remedies, this is what is followed

precisely.

> >

> >

> >

> > after years of research through lalkitab remedies, i found stones

> >

> > would work positively only if those planets are beneficial to the

> >

> > native in a chart. when the planets are malefic, since natives

> >

> > cannot afford donating precious stones, they can donate objects

> >

> > related to those malefic planets. this is where lalkitab comes

> >

> > handy.

> >

> >

> >

> > i do not agree with gauravji's observation that if you wear a

pearn

> >

> > for moon, besides moon, jupiter would also be benefited and at the

 

> >

> > same time mars gets debilitated. in my knowledge stones have

> >

> > scientific properties and their single objective is to

> >

> > receive/absorb the cosmic energies of the respective planets.

> >

> > simply put, if you wear a stone for a particular planet, if that

> >

> > planet is a benefic the native gets positive results, and if that

> >

> > planet is malefic, the native gets negative results.

> >

> >

> >

> > because of these ambivalence in stone recommendations, i recommend

 

> >

> > rudraksha as several puranas attribute lords to each rudaksha and

> >

> > also attribute what benefits the wearer gets. no anukul, no

> >

> > pratikul. also it has no negative affects.

> >

> >

> >

> > with best wishes

> >

> > arjun

> >

> > --- In vedic astrology , " Richard Shaw-Brown II "

> >

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Sriman,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The translations of Mani Mala by Tagore - Verses 79-81 are

> >

> > correct. I have uploaded the

> >

> > > original Sanskrit texts to the PHOTOS section of this group for

> >

> > anyone to check.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Verses 80-81 make no sense. Therefore it appears that Mani Mala

is

> >

> > an imperfect source

> >

> > > of gem knowledge. And it should not be followed as is.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > One thing interesting is that books on Indian gemology, like

Mani

> >

> > Mala, they only talk

> >

> > > about adverse planets. And they never mention what to do for

> >

> > Anukul planets (which is

> >

> > > obviously to wear the gem for the Anukul graha, viz., Anukula-

> >

> > vad)!??

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Point is that for Pratikul Graha we DONATE the gem

(ratna-arpana),

> >

> > and for Anukul Graha

> >

> > > we WEAR the gem. Based on the philosophy that gems strengthen

> >

> > their plant when worn,

> >

> > > and reduce their planet when donated. One is accepting, other is

 

> >

> > giving away.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Best rgds,

> >

> > > Richard

> >

> > >

> >

> > > vedic astrology , yobrevol@ wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Namaste Richard Ji,

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > So they are actually correct. Please understand that my

> >

> > reservations were

> >

> > > > not personal towards you in nature, rather towards the stated

> >

> > translation. I am

> >

> > > > in agreement with you with the sloka 79 as I also come from

> >

> > Anukul school of

> >

> > > > thought as taught by my guru.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > I am just trying to figure out why would mani mala say what it

 

> >

> > states in

> >

> > > > sloka 80+...have you read another version of mani mala

> >

> > translated by another

> >

> > > > author...?

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > To think that we should wear Blue sapphire for adverse moon is

 

> >

> > beyond my

> >

> > > > limited understanding, specially when we make a blunt general

> >

> > statement like

> >

> > > > that...I mean moon is neither exalted nor debilitated in

saturn

> >

> > signs, and then

> >

> > > > the author of mani mala further suggests wearing a pearl for

> >

> > adverse

> >

> > > > Jupiter...where jupiter gets exalted, so their is

inconsistency

> >

> > here...

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Having said that, may be Guru Ji and other learned will throw

> >

> > some light...

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Namaste

> >

> > > > Gaurav Jain

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > In a message dated 2/20/2006 3:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard

> >

> > Time,

> >

> > > > rsbj66@ writes:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Dear Sriman,

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Namaste!!! I am not suggesting anything, these are three

slokas

> >

> > taken from

> >

> > > > Mani Mala

> >

> > > > written by SM Tagore published in 1879. I'm just putting

these

> >

> > slokas out

> >

> > > > for comment.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > I personally agree with the first sloka 79. When Sun is

adverse

> >

> > one should

> >

> > > > DONATE a ruby,

> >

> > > > for adverse Moon one should donate a pearl, as in Ratna-dana-

> >

> > vidhi

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > And when these planets are beneficial (anukul) then one

should

> >

> > WEAR the

> >

> > > > associated gem,

> >

> > > > as if Sun is anukul in the chart then Ruby can be worn, as in

 

> >

> > ratna-dharana.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Gem should be WORN for good planet / gem should be DONATED

for

> >

> > bad planet.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > I personally disagree with slokas 80-81. But as they are from

 

> >

> > the famous

> >

> > > > Mani Mali so I

> >

> > > > have put them for your interest.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Best regards,

> >

> > > > Richard

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > vedic astrology , yobrevol@ wrote:

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Namaste richard ji,

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > If I am reading it correctly , what you are suggesting via

> >

> > these slokas is

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > that we should give away diamond to propitiate venus, and

at

> >

> > the same time

> >

> > > > wear

> >

> > > > > diamond when venus is adverse? and that we wear blue

> >

> > sapphire to nullify

> >

> > > > > adverse effects of moon?....lets not forget that jupiter

> >

> > exalts in

> >

> > > > cancer, so

> >

> > > > > how in the right mind can we suggest wearing pearl to

" ward

> >

> > off " the

> >

> > > > adverse

> >

> > > > > effects of jupiter...?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > are you sure about the authenticity of the translations?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Also, to the learned, where can I get a copy of Mani mala?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Namaste

> >

> > > > > Gaurav Jain

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > In a message dated 2/20/2006 2:50:03 P.M. Eastern Standard

> >

> > Time,

> >

> > > > > rsbj66@ writes:

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Translation 79: Ill Stars and how to propitiate them by

> >

> > bestowal (dana)

> >

> > > > > of gems:

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > When the Sun is hostile (donate) a pure ruby; when the

Moon,

> >

> > a good

> >

> > > > > pearl; when Mangala, a good coral; when Budha, a good

> >

> > emerald; when

> >

> > > > > Brihaspati, a good yellow sapphire; when Shukra, the

> >

> > diamond; when

> >

> > > > > Shani, a good blue sapphire; when Rahu, the gomeda; and

when

> >

> > Ketu, a

> >

> > > > > good cat's eye, should be donated

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> > > > > Translation 80-81: Ill Stars and how to ward them off by

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> > wearing

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> > > > > (dharan) of gems:

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> > > > > If the Sun is adverse, (wear) the cat's eye; if the Moon,

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> > the blue

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> > > > > sapphire; if Mangala, the ruby; if Budha, the ruby too; if

 

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> > Vrihaspati,

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> > > > > the pearl; if Shukra, the diamond; if Shani, the great

blue

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> > sapphire;

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> > > > > if Rahu, the gomeda, and if Ketu, the emerald, should be

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