Synthetic gem is a contadiction in terms

[Guest guest]

Namaskaar Sri SweeThank you for pointing out the Puranas. Can you give me the reference of the same too? The glass or paste as we call it, must have been prevalent but not the synthetics that match many qualities of the gemstones.

Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 3/7/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote:

 

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau

sharanam prapadye. "

" Namo

gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

Dear Bharat – Anuj,

Namaste

 

However, my concern was against one particular

statement - " Synthetic

gemstones have no effects " . The effect is

there, but we do not have any

reference to understand their effects. Puranas

couldn't have written about

not using synthetics as they weren't being produced

that time. When Sastra

know-how is missing, we tend to infer based on

physical, chemical, and other

properties or we can experiment.]

 

You are wrong in your statement. Please refer to the

Puranas again. They clearly state that genuine ones confer the blessings as

stated and fake ones made from glass, copper etc., do not. Imagine how long ago

these statements were made, and the sages already knew that man-made - lab

grown gems can be "grown" with copper and the "seed"

crystal. Wow!

Except for a natural crystal in the diamond to

install, for emeralds, even the off cuts are to be discarded.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam

prapadye. "

" Namo

gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

 

Nag Publishers, pg 45 onwards (BTW, did

you get in touch with them?)

GP:

Ch 68 sloka 44 and 45 Experts prepare

imitations (diamonds) by using metals, pushparaga, gomedhaka, vaidurya,

spathika and different types of glass (can be natural glass/obsidian in this

case and cz’s included).

 

Ch 71 sloka 19 – off cuts of any gem

(other than the emerald – corrected) should never be worn or bought by

those who wish for welfare.

 

Ch 72 sloka 14. actually, suprious

sapphires are glass, marble (except for copper coloured), karavira and spatika.

 

Ch 73 sloka 9 suprious gems such as

girikaca (an 8 sides crystal/lack of brilliance as compared to Vaidurya), glass

crystals (lead crystal or obsidian) and shisupala – what’s this?

(lighter in s. gravity to Vaidurya).

 

In the chapter on the description of

Rubies, it also states that their influence is NOT

ON PAR of a certain crystalline variety from

Kuruvindaja, but from Ravana Ganga – Sri Lanka, those are better or can

be considered as better – with crystalline rays.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology

Tuesday, March 07, 2006

12:14 PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re:

" Synthetic gem " is a contadiction in terms

 

 

Namaskaar Sri Swee

 

Thank you for pointing out the Puranas. Can you give me the reference of the

same too?

 

The glass or paste as we call it, must have been prevalent but not the

synthetics that match many qualities of the gemstones.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 3/7/06, Swee Chan

<swee wrote:

 

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam prapadye. "

" Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

Dear Bharat – Anuj,

Namaste

 

 

 

However, my concern was

against one particular statement - " Synthetic

gemstones have no

effects " . The effect is there, but we do not have any

reference to understand

their effects. Puranas couldn't have written about

not using synthetics as

they weren't being produced that time. When Sastra

know-how is missing, we

tend to infer based on physical, chemical, and other

 

 

properties or we can

experiment.]

 

You are wrong in your

statement. Please refer to the Puranas again. They clearly state that genuine

ones confer the blessings as stated and fake ones made from glass, copper etc.,

do not. Imagine how long ago these statements were made, and the sages already

knew that man-made - lab grown gems can be " grown " with copper and

the " seed " crystal. Wow!

Except for a natural

crystal in the diamond to install, for emeralds, even the off cuts are to be

discarded.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaskaar Sri SweeGaruda Purana is the only one evading me so far. I am going to go to Chandi Chowk again. When are you expected to come to Delhi?Thanks and RegardsBharat

On 3/7/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote:

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam

prapadye. "

 

" Namo

gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

 

Nag Publishers, pg 45 onwards (BTW, did

you get in touch with them?)

GP:

Ch 68 sloka 44 and 45 Experts prepare

imitations (diamonds) by using metals, pushparaga, gomedhaka, vaidurya,

spathika and different types of glass (can be natural glass/obsidian in this

case and cz's included).

 

Ch 71 sloka 19 – off cuts of any gem

(other than the emerald – corrected) should never be worn or bought by

those who wish for welfare.

 

Ch 72 sloka 14. actually, suprious

sapphires are glass, marble (except for copper coloured), karavira and spatika.

 

Ch 73 sloka 9 suprious gems such as

girikaca (an 8 sides crystal/lack of brilliance as compared to Vaidurya), glass

crystals (lead crystal or obsidian) and shisupala – what's this?

(lighter in s. gravity to Vaidurya).

 

In the chapter on the description of

Rubies, it also states that their influence is NOT

ON PAR of a certain crystalline variety from

Kuruvindaja, but from Ravana Ganga – Sri Lanka, those are better or can

be considered as better – with crystalline rays.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology

Tuesday, March 07, 2006

12:14 PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re:

" Synthetic gem " is a contadiction in terms

 

 

Namaskaar Sri Swee

 

Thank you for pointing out the Puranas. Can you give me the reference of the

same too?

 

The glass or paste as we call it, must have been prevalent but not the

synthetics that match many qualities of the gemstones.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 3/7/06, Swee Chan

<swee wrote:

 

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam prapadye. "

" Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

Dear Bharat – Anuj,

Namaste

 

 

 

However, my concern was

against one particular statement - " Synthetic

gemstones have no

effects " . The effect is there, but we do not have any

reference to understand

their effects. Puranas couldn't have written about

not using synthetics as

they weren't being produced that time. When Sastra

know-how is missing, we

tend to infer based on physical, chemical, and other

 

 

properties or we can

experiment.]

 

You are wrong in your

statement. Please refer to the Puranas again. They clearly state that genuine

ones confer the blessings as stated and fake ones made from glass, copper etc.,

do not. Imagine how long ago these statements were made, and the sages already

knew that man-made - lab grown gems can be " grown " with copper and

the " seed " crystal. Wow!

Except for a natural

crystal in the diamond to install, for emeralds, even the off cuts are to be

discarded.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

SPONSORED

LINKS

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic astrology

 

 

 

Astrology chart

 

 

 

Astrology software

 

 

 

 

 

Spiritual disciplines

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

!

GROUPS LINKS

 

 

 

Visit your group "

"

on the web.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam

prapadye. "

" Namo

gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

 

Dear Bharat,

Namaste

 

Perhaps you can wait until 6th April

on the day of my arrival? I might be meeting up with my brother as well – then Chandi

Chowk and then Vrindavan on the same day.

 

Thanks.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:19

PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re:

" Synthetic gem " is a contadiction in terms

 

 

Namaskaar Sri Swee

 

Garuda Purana is the only one evading me so far. I am going to go to Chandi

Chowk again. When are you expected to come to Delhi?

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 3/7/06, Swee Chan

<swee wrote:

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau

sharanam

prapadye. "

" Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

 

Nag Publishers, pg 45 onwards (BTW, did you get in touch with

them?)

GP:

Ch 68 sloka 44 and 45 Experts prepare imitations (diamonds)

by using metals, pushparaga, gomedhaka, vaidurya, spathika and different types

of glass (can be natural glass/obsidian in this case and cz's included).

 

Ch 71 sloka 19 – off cuts of any gem (other than the emerald

– corrected) should never be worn or bought by those who wish for welfare.

 

Ch 72 sloka 14. actually, suprious sapphires are glass,

marble (except for copper coloured), karavira and spatika.

 

Ch 73 sloka 9 suprious gems such as girikaca (an 8 sides

crystal/lack of brilliance as compared to Vaidurya), glass crystals (lead

crystal or obsidian) and shisupala – what's this? (lighter in s. gravity to

Vaidurya).

 

In the chapter on the description of Rubies, it also states

that their influence is NOT ON

PAR of a certain crystalline variety from Kuruvindaja, but from Ravana Ganga – Sri Lanka,

those are better or can be considered as better – with crystalline rays.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu

Astrology

Tuesday, March 07, 2006

12:14 PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re:

" Synthetic gem " is a contadiction in terms

 

 

 

 

Namaskaar Sri Swee

 

Thank you for pointing out the Puranas. Can you give me the reference of the

same too?

 

The glass or paste as we call it, must have been prevalent but not the

synthetics that match many qualities of the gemstones.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On

3/7/06, Swee Chan <swee

wrote:

 

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam prapadye. "

" Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

Dear Bharat – Anuj,

Namaste

 

 

 

However, my concern was

against one particular statement - " Synthetic

gemstones have no

effects " . The effect is there, but we do not have any

reference to understand

their effects. Puranas couldn't have written about

not using synthetics as

they weren't being produced that time. When Sastra

know-how is missing, we

tend to infer based on physical, chemical, and other

 

 

properties or we can

experiment.]

 

You are wrong in your

statement. Please refer to the Puranas again. They clearly state that genuine

ones confer the blessings as stated and fake ones made from glass, copper etc.,

do not. Imagine how long ago these statements were made, and the sages already

knew that man-made - lab grown gems can be " grown " with copper and

the " seed " crystal. Wow!

Except for a natural

crystal in the diamond to install, for emeralds, even the off cuts are to be

discarded.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaskaar Sri SweeI await your arrival in Delhi. Do give me a call at 9811309941 upon reaching Delhi. I am hoping for a visit to Chandni Chowk to pick up some Puranas. Thanks and RegardsAnuj (Bharat)

On 3/7/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote:

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam

prapadye. "

 

" Namo

gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

 

Dear Bharat,

Namaste

 

Perhaps you can wait until 6th April

on the day of my arrival? I might be meeting up with my brother as well – then Chandi

Chowk and then Vrindavan on the same day.

 

Thanks.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:19

PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re:

" Synthetic gem " is a contadiction in terms

 

 

Namaskaar Sri Swee

 

Garuda Purana is the only one evading me so far. I am going to go to Chandi

Chowk again. When are you expected to come to Delhi?

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 3/7/06, Swee Chan

<swee wrote:

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau

sharanam

prapadye. "

 

" Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

 

Nag Publishers, pg 45 onwards (BTW, did you get in touch with

them?)

GP:

Ch 68 sloka 44 and 45 Experts prepare imitations (diamonds)

by using metals, pushparaga, gomedhaka, vaidurya, spathika and different types

of glass (can be natural glass/obsidian in this case and cz's included).

 

Ch 71 sloka 19 – off cuts of any gem (other than the emerald

– corrected) should never be worn or bought by those who wish for welfare.

 

Ch 72 sloka 14. actually, suprious sapphires are glass,

marble (except for copper coloured), karavira and spatika.

 

Ch 73 sloka 9 suprious gems such as girikaca (an 8 sides

crystal/lack of brilliance as compared to Vaidurya), glass crystals (lead

crystal or obsidian) and shisupala – what's this? (lighter in s. gravity to

Vaidurya).

 

In the chapter on the description of Rubies, it also states

that their influence is NOT ON

PAR of a certain crystalline variety from Kuruvindaja, but from Ravana Ganga – Sri Lanka,

those are better or can be considered as better – with crystalline rays.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu

Astrology

Tuesday, March 07, 2006

12:14 PM

 

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re:

" Synthetic gem " is a contadiction in terms

 

 

 

 

Namaskaar Sri Swee

 

Thank you for pointing out the Puranas. Can you give me the reference of the

same too?

 

The glass or paste as we call it, must have been prevalent but not the

synthetics that match many qualities of the gemstones.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On

3/7/06, Swee Chan <swee

wrote:

 

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam prapadye. "

" Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

Dear Bharat – Anuj,

Namaste

 

 

 

However, my concern was

against one particular statement - " Synthetic

gemstones have no

effects " . The effect is there, but we do not have any

reference to understand

their effects. Puranas couldn't have written about

not using synthetics as

they weren't being produced that time. When Sastra

know-how is missing, we

tend to infer based on physical, chemical, and other

 

 

properties or we can

experiment.]

 

You are wrong in your

statement. Please refer to the Puranas again. They clearly state that genuine

ones confer the blessings as stated and fake ones made from glass, copper etc.,

do not. Imagine how long ago these statements were made, and the sages already

knew that man-made - lab grown gems can be " grown " with copper and

the " seed " crystal. Wow!

Except for a natural

crystal in the diamond to install, for emeralds, even the off cuts are to be

discarded.

 

Love,

Swee