Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions

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Namaste Sri VistiCan you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out the same. If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

Thanks and RegardsBharat (Anuj)On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

 

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in

it?

 

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make

Pisces more prominent.

 

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious

in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for

benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an

excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna

definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

 

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but

jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house

from lagna.

 

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth

house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no

doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of

Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the

person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in

circles.

 

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious

house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries

lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is

also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely

necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

 

sushmagupta51 wrote:

 

 

 

 

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem

stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative

lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription

of Blue sapphire :

 

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However

Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a

Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also

Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

sapphire still recommended?

 

 

2. Strengthening

9th Lord:

 

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

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Namaste Visti,In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you. In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately. I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind? My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter. I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.Thanks and RegardsAnujOn 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <

visti wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and

then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first

gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and

learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies

again.

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst

I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in

the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some

traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaste Sri Visti

 

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the

strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that

the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish

digest pointing out the same.

 

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested

for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not

suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to

comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

 

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

 

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written

in

it?

 

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make

Pisces more prominent.

 

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious

in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for

benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an

excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna

definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

 

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious

in

dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but

jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house

from lagna.

 

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the

ninth

house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no

doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of

Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the

person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in

circles.

 

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

inauspicious

house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries

lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is

also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely

necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.

com

 

 

 

sushmagupta51 wrote:

 

 

 

 

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem

stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative

lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription

of Blue sapphire :

 

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However

Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a

Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also

Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

sapphire still recommended?

 

 

2. Strengthening

9th Lord:

 

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

 

I cannot find time in my busy schedule (I am still traveling) to listen to

Visti's talk on gemstones, so I only have the following to say:

 

A Deity finds its abode in a perfect gem and this can be confirmed in Garuda

Purana - so the statement that one cannot do wear the gemstone of AK or AmK

bears no weight.

 

The wearing of a Blue Sapphire or a Ruby requires one to be pure. Those that are

not - the fallen in us who drink cola, tea, coffee and those who are not ready

..............

The diamond is worn according to one's varna in men but NOT for women.

 

The white sapphire Visti is wearing is for his 12th lord. Though a natural

benefic, it's function according to his chart is to bring about losses and can

place more importance to other matters depending on where the 7th.

 

If you recall our discussion on Red Beryl/Rubellite or Pink/Red Tourmaline, I

had a query from an accupuncturist during Guru Gita last Thursday and I told her

that it is because she is still suffering from so much anger in her and her

inability to forgive her ex for all the sexual abuse/rape. She was taken aback

and concurred with my snap analysis.

 

Sorry for the dash

 

love,

 

Swee

 

 

On Tuesday, December 12, 2006, at 10:50AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology wrote:

>Namaste Visti,

>

>In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so

>Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

>

>In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in

>5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house).

>Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or

>Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

>

>I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the

>Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can

>you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

>

>My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord,

>should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now,

>when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries

>lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to

>Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

>

>I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

>

>Thanks and Regards

>Anuj

>

>

>

>

>On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>>

>>

>> ??? ??? ??????

>>

>> Dear Bharat, Namaskar

>> One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

>> placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

>> Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and

>> then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i

>> spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.

>> Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

>> somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

>> Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst

>> I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the

>> actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling,

>> but lets see.

>> Yours sincerely,

>> --

>> Visti Larsen

>> email: visti

>> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

>>

>>

>> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>>

>> Namaste Sri Visti

>>

>> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength

>> of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone

>> represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out

>> the same.

>>

>> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for

>> Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me

>> and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the

>> same and share his thoughts too.

>>

>> Thanks and Regards

>> Bharat (Anuj)

>>

>>

>>

>> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti>

>> wrote:

>>

>>

>> ??? ??? ??????

>>

>> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

>> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

>> normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>>

>> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

>>

>> *o Pratama prasna*

>> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

>> thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

>> sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces

>> more prominent.

>>

>> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

>> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in

>> a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics.

>> For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet

>> Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't....

>> unless the person travels abroad.

>>

>> This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

>> dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

>> twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy

>> from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

>>

>> *o Tritiiya prasna

>> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house.

>> If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a

>> yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In

>> fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't

>> start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

>>

>> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house,

>> and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna,

>> Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth

>> lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to

>> avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

>>

>> Yours sincerely,

>> --

>> Visti Larsen

>> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti

>> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

>> <http://srigaruda.com>

>>

>>

>> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>>

>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>

>> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>>

>> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of

>> all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a

>> lot of doubts.

>>

>> I have a couple of Qns:

>> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>>

>> You mention for :

>> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

>> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

>>

>> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is

>> also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>>

>> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like

>> 6H or 8H.

>> e.g. - Taurus asc ? Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

>> sapphire still recommended?

>>

>> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>>

>> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

>> malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

>> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

>> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>>

>> Let me know when you get a moment.

>>

>> Warm regards,

>> Pranav

>>

>>

>>

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>>

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>>

>

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हरे राम कृष्ण॥

Dear Swee, Namaskar

When you do find the time out from your schedule i would appreciate

your scholarly comments.

 

My learning of gemstones and their prescription is slightly

different from yours. This, I believe, is highlighted quite clearly in

the past discussions of former President PV Narasimha Rao's chart where

he was advised to wear a Red Coral.

 

Now, for a Virgo Lagna the wearing of Red Coral (on right hand

middle finger) would seem quite wrong, if we follow the strict logic

that dusthana lords are evil. But, this is where these strict steps

have proved to be wrong as he rose to power in the appropriate dasa.

 

As for nature of gemstones, I was taught that a Yellow Diamond is

still ruled by Venus but its lusture give an element of a Guru-Shukra

yoga.

Similarly a White Sapphire (unlike a blue sapphire) is still ruled by

Jupiter, but carries a qualities of Venus as well... i.e. a Guru-Shukra

yoga.

 

For your research i can say that my finances were much much worse

when i wore the citrine and also the heliodore. I spent my entire

savings during that time on traveling and jyotish. This stabilized with

the wearing of the Heliodore.

Now with the wearing of the White Sapphire i have a very comfortable

position financially since late summer. Much better than the previous

periods.

 

The words regarding 'the devata in the gem' carry much weight and i

will send a separate message on this list to Anuj regarding this.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

 

Swee Chan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

 

I cannot find time in my busy schedule (I am still traveling) to listen

to Visti's talk on gemstones, so I only have the following to say:

 

A Deity finds its abode in a perfect gem and this can be confirmed in

Garuda Purana - so the statement that one cannot do wear the gemstone

of AK or AmK bears no weight.

 

The wearing of a Blue Sapphire or a Ruby requires one to be pure. Those

that are not - the fallen in us who drink cola, tea, coffee and those

who are not ready ............ .

The diamond is worn according to one's varna in men but NOT for women.

 

The white sapphire Visti is wearing is for his 12th lord. Though a

natural benefic, it's function according to his chart is to bring about

losses and can place more importance to other matters depending on

where the 7th.

 

If you recall our discussion on Red Beryl/Rubellite or Pink/Red

Tourmaline, I had a query from an accupuncturist during Guru Gita last

Thursday and I told her that it is because she is still suffering from

so much anger in her and her inability to forgive her ex for all the

sexual abuse/rape. She was taken aback and concurred with my snap

analysis.

 

Sorry for the dash

 

love,

 

Swee

 

On Tuesday, December 12, 2006, at 10:50AM, "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology@ gmail.com>

wrote:

>Namaste Visti,

>

>In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of

trikona, so

>Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

>

>In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna.

Jupiter is in

>5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th

house).

>Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire

or

>Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

>

>I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to

strengthen the

>Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha

itself. Can

>you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

>

>My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of

Lagna lord,

>should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No.

Now,

>when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn

for Aries

>lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as

well as to

>Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

>

>I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

>

>Thanks and Regards

>Anuj

>

>

>

>

>On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com> wrote:

>>

>>

>> ??? ??? ??????

>>

>> Dear Bharat, Namaskar

>> One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and

Rahu is

>> placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the

eighth.

>> Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow

Citrine and

>> then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my

first gemstone i

>> spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and

learning Jyotish.

>> Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and

was left

>> somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal

studies again.

>> Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces)

and whilst

>> I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some

flaws in the

>> actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some

traveling,

>> but lets see.

>> Yours sincerely,

>> --

>> Visti Larsen

>> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com

>> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

>>

>>

>> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>>

>> Namaste Sri Visti

>>

>> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise

the strength

>> of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that

the gemstone

>> represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest

pointing out

>> the same.

>>

>> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was

suggested for

>> Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does

not suit me

>> and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to

comment upon the

>> same and share his thoughts too.

>>

>> Thanks and Regards

>> Bharat (Anuj)

>>

>>

>>

>> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>

>> wrote:

>>

>>

>> ??? ??? ??????

>>

>> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

>> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the

mantra is

>> normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>>

>> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had

written in it?

>>

>> *o Pratama prasna*

>> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more

prominent, and

>> thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own

sign in

>> sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and

make Pisces

>> more prominent.

>>

>> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

>> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very

auspicious in

>> a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so

for benefics.

>> For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an

excellent Vipareet

>> Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely

isn't....

>> unless the person travels abroad.

>>

>> This follows the general principle that malefics are

auspicious in

>> dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That

way Mars in

>> twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga,

but jealousy

>> from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house

from lagna.

>>

>> *o Tritiiya prasna

>> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the

ninth house.

>> If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then

no doubt a

>> yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of

Jupiter. In

>> fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person

simply won't

>> start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

>>

>> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

inauspicious house,

>> and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for

Aries lagna,

>> Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is

also ninth

>> lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely

necessary to

>> avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

>>

>> Yours sincerely,

>> --

>> Visti Larsen

>> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

>> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

>> <http://srigaruda. com>

>>

>>

>> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>>

>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>

>> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>>

>> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones,

First of

>> all I will like to thank you for doing the informative

lecture. It cleared a

>> lot of doubts.

>>

>> I have a couple of Qns:

>> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>>

>> You mention for :

>> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

>> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue

sapphire.

>>

>> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover

it is

>> also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>>

>> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house

like

>> 6H or 8H.

>> e.g. - Taurus asc ? Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra,

Is Blue

>> sapphire still recommended?

>>

>> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>>

>> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns

one of the

>> malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

>> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

>> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>>

>> Let me know when you get a moment.

>>

>> Warm regards,

>> Pranav

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Dear Anuj, Namaskar

When i first wore a gem for Jupiter i fell sick within a week. To test

this i would sometimes take of the gem for a few weeks and then wear it

again for a week to see the effects only to confirm that i fell sick

again. This was a citrine at the time.

 

This happened to the extent that i gave up on wearing the gem and

wanted to give it back. At this juncture Sanjayji told me to keep the

gem in milk overnight. The next morning we then sat down and recited

the Brhaspati Gayatri whilst keeping the gem in the left hand and

covering it with the right (prasna marga).

 

The result was that i barely fell sick ever again whilst wearing the

gemstone. I learnt alot of jyotish and my trips back and forth through

conferences began. Since then i realized that the gemstone ALSO depends

on the devata who will sit in it, and a gemstone without a devata will

be like a house without any other occupant than the thoughts and

feelings of the one who previously handled the gemstone. Well.... i

fell sick with that.

 

Since then i always wear the gemstone on the day of the devata after

reciting mantras for that devata, thus imbibing the gemstone with some

auspicious 'bimba'. Has anybody written any articles on how to do this,

and do you always make sure to practice this yourself?

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaste Visti,

 

In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona,

so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

 

In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is

in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th

house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow

Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

 

I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen

the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha

itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

 

My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna

lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells -

No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting

Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to

Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on

this matter.

 

I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

 

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and

then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first

gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and

learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies

again.

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst

I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in

the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some

traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.

com

 

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaste Sri Visti

 

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the

strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that

the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish

digest pointing out the same.

 

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested

for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not

suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to

comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

 

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had

written

in

it?

 

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make

Pisces more prominent.

 

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious

in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for

benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an

excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna

definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

 

This follows the general principle that malefics are

auspicious

in

dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but

jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house

from lagna.

 

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the

ninth

house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no

doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of

Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the

person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in

circles.

 

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

inauspicious

house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries

lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is

also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely

necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

 

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.

com

 

 

sushmagupta51 wrote:

 

 

 

 

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

 

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on

Gem

stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative

lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

 

I have a couple of Qns:

1.       Prescription

of Blue sapphire :

 

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

 

a.       However

Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a

Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended? 

 

b.       Also

Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

sapphire still recommended? 

 

 

2.       Strengthening

9th Lord:

 

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries   Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

        Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

 

Let me know when you get a moment.

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

 

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Dear & Respected Visti Ji , Swee Ji, Anuj Ji and Gurujans.

I have been interestingly reading all the threads related to Gem Stones and their effects. Especially for Jupiter. In one of the threads and also in book from one of our sohamasa guru and lecture from Guru Sarrajit Poddar, I read that if RAHU is in 9th house then one should wear Yellow Sapphire or its substiture like yellow citrine or topaz in right hand's ring finger. This should be worn in Gold. My question is

1) Is this the general rule which is applicable to all the sigs and lagna. In my case I have Leo Lagna and I have Saturn in 8th house ( Pis) and Rahu in 9th ( Aries) , Sat is my UL and DK also and Rahu is 2nd from UL. As u all know Sat in 8th is not at all good and Rahu in 9th and 2nd from UL is again bad and it had bought me lot of problems in my personnel life and I have been going thru lot of issue. Now although I have been wearing this ring since beginning of this year, it has not bought any good effects or relief to me. I have Sun + Venu in my 5th house and Mer in 4th and Mars in 2nd from Lagna with Jupiter in 12th house.

Also I am wearing Durga Locket around my neck

Am I doing something wrong or have I missed something. I remember at time of wearing on thrusday I had recited Vishnu Mantra.

All the help on this will be very helpful. Prior to wearing Topaz or citrine I was weaing Ruby in my ring finger.It will go long way in which can be a divine help to overcome the issues.

 

Thanks

Vipin

 

 

Vipin Wadhawan

E-mail : vipinshash

 

 

 

"Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrologysohamsa To: , "Swee Chan" <swee, , sohamsa Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questionsTue, 12 Dec 2006 14:10:05 +0530

 

 

 

Namaste Visti,In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you. In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately. I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind? My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter. I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.Thanks and RegardsAnuj

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Bharat, NamaskarOne of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling, but lets see.Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaste Sri VistiCan you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out the same. If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too. Thanks and RegardsBharat (Anuj)

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pranav, NamaskarI'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

o Pratama prasnaThe wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

o Dvitiiya prasnaWhen a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

o Tritiiya prasnaThere could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com sushmagupta51 wrote:

 

 

 

 

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire : You mention for :- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H. e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,Pranav

 

 

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Dear Vipin,

Namaste

 

Comments below:

 

Respected Visti Ji , Swee Ji, Anuj Ji and Gurujans.

I have been interestingly reading all the threads related to Gem Stones and

their effects. Especially for Jupiter. In one of the threads and also in book

from one of our sohamasa guru and lecture from Guru Sarrajit Poddar, I read that

if RAHU is in 9th house then one should wear Yellow Sapphire or its substiture

like yellow citrine or topaz in right hand's ring finger. This should be worn in

Gold.

 

SWEE: In that case why bother to learn the exaltation Sign of any graha or its

mitra Signs? In the case when Rahu is in Taurus, I would rather recommend a

Yellow Diamond which serves the purpose for both Venus and Jupiter, the two

great natural benefics. This is suitable especially for a gentleman belonging to

the Kshatria varna. Else, I would stay put with a white Diamond. As for yellow

Topaz, it is non existent.

 

My question is:

><P>1) Is this the general rule which is applicable to all the sigs and lagna.

In my case I have Leo Lagna and I have Saturn in 8th house ( Pis) and Rahu in

9th ( Aries) , Sat is my UL and DK also and Rahu is 2nd from UL. As u all know

Sat in 8th is not at all good and Rahu in 9th and 2nd from UL is again bad and

it had bought me lot of problems in my personnel life and I have been going thru

lot of issue. Now although I have been wearing this ring since beginning of this

year, it has not bought any good effects or relief to me. I have Sun + Venu in

my 5th house and Mer in 4th and Mars in 2nd from Lagna with Jupiter in 12th

house.

 

SWEE: Yes, in your case. But why not the Ruby if it is the spiritual path is

paving your way? In my personal opinion, a Yellow Sapphire is over rated. It is

not the cure all. After why, why would the scriptures state that the Green

Diamond is Vishnu's abode? Isn't HE more encompassing than Brihaspati?

 

</P>

><P>Also I am wearing Durga Locket around my neck</P>

><P>Am I doing something wrong or have I missed something. I remember at time of

wearing on thrusday I had recited Vishnu Mantra.

 

SWEE: Nothing wrong with this at all. Durga locket is the correct one for

attracting wealth. Wealth comes in many forms, especially of knowledge and who

better than Her to appease in the form of a kavach? The locket requires you to

" recharge " it at least once every 3 years with all the proper rites. Durga Ma

ahs her own mantras for you to eulogise, her own kavacha mantras etc.

 

love,

 

Swee

 

 

<P>All the help on this will be very helpful. Prior to wearing Topaz or citrine

I was weaing Ruby in my ring finger.It will go long way in which can be a divine

help to overcome the issues.</P>

 

><P>Namaste Visti,<BR><BR>In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a

lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you. <BR><BR>In my

case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house

aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house). Though I have many

gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems

start almost immediately. <BR><BR>I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it

is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart

from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

<BR><BR>My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna

lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now,

when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries

lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing

>this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have

to say on this matter. <BR><BR>I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too.

Hope he isn't busy.<BR><BR>Thanks and Regards<BR>Anuj<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>

><DIV><SPAN class= " gmail_quote " >On 12/9/06, <B class= " gmail_sendername " >Visti

Larsen</B> & lt; <A

href= " visti " >visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <WBR>com</A> & gt; wrote:</SPAN>

><BLOCKQUOTE class= " gmail_quote " >

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><DIV>

><DIV>

><DIV>

><P><BR></P>

><DIV><SPAN class= " q " ><SPAN>????????? ?????????

??????????????????</SPAN><BR></SPAN>

><P>Dear Bharat, Namaskar<BR>One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio

Lagna and Rahu is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the

eighth.<BR>Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine

and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i

spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning

Jyotish.<BR>Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was

left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies

again.<BR>Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and

whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the

actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling, but

lets see.<BR>Yours sincerely, </P><SPAN class= " q " ><SPAN>-- <BR>Visti

Larsen<BR>email: <A

href= " visti " >visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <WBR>com</A><BR>For

consultations and articles visit: <A href= " http://srigaruda.com/ " !

>http:!

/!

> /srigaruda.<WBR>com </A></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN class= " e " id= " q_10f68593b3461349_5 " ><BR><BR>Bharat Hindu Astrology

wrote:

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cite= " http://mid7c78a1c70612090806l5312d12k1e8ab2a1e471160d (AT) mail (DOT) gmail.com " >

><DIV>

><DIV>

><DIV>

><P>Namaste Sri Visti<BR><BR>Can you cite some experiences where you have tried

to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas

that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest

pointing out the same. <BR><BR>If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow

Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire

just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to

comment upon the same and share his thoughts too. <BR><BR>Thanks and

Regards<BR>Bharat (Anuj)<BR><BR><BR><BR></P>

><DIV><SPAN>On 12/9/06, <B>Visti Larsen</B> & lt;<A

href= " visti " >visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com</A> & gt; wrote: </SPAN>

><BLOCKQUOTE>

><DIV>

><DIV>

><DIV>

><DIV>

><P><BR></P>

><DIV><SPAN>????????? ????????? ??????????????????</SPAN><BR>

><P>Dear Pranav, Namaskar<BR>I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures.

Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|<BR></P>

><P>I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in

it?<BR></P>

><P><B>o Pratama prasna</B><BR>The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make

Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for

Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus,

and make Pisces more prominent.<BR></P>

><P><B>o Dvitiiya prasna</B><BR>When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can

become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This

is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an

excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna

definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.<BR></P>

><P>This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth

for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may

remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.<BR></P>

><P><B>o Tritiiya prasna<BR></B>There could be various reasons to advise a

gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or

aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the

position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the

person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in

circles.<BR></P>

><P>Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house,

and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter

in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such

cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil

(rahu, saturn, etc).<BR></P>

><P>Yours sincerely, </P><SPAN>-- <BR>Visti Larsen<BR>email: <A

href= " visti " >visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com</A><BR>For consultations

and articles visit: <A href= " http://srigaruda.com/ " >http://srigaruda. com

</A></SPAN></DIV><SPAN><BR><BR>sushmagupta51 wrote:

><BLOCKQUOTE

cite= " http://mid20061208205446.51686.qmail (AT) web60919 (DOT) mail. " >

><DIV>

><DIV>

><DIV>

><DIV>!Om Gurveh Namah!</DIV>

><DIV> & nbsp;</DIV>

><DIV><SPAN>Dear Visti ji, Namaskar! </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN>I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First

of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a

lot of doubts. </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN>I have a couple of Qns: </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>1.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><B><SPAN>Prescription of Blue sapphire</SPAN></B><SPAN> :

<BR><BR>You mention for :<BR>- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

<BR>- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

</SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>a.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn,

moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended? & nbsp;

</SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>b.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad

house like 6H or 8H. <BR>e.g. - Taurus asc ??? Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H)

in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended? & nbsp;<BR><BR></SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>2.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><B><SPAN>Strengthening 9th Lord</SPAN></B><SPAN>:<BR><BR>Is

it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic

houses - 3,6,8,11,12?<BR>e.g. - Aries & nbsp; & nbsp; Asc Ju lords (9,12)

houses<BR> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9)

houses </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN>Let me know when you get a moment. </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV><SPAN>Warm regards,<BR>Pranav </SPAN></DIV>

><DIV> </DIV>

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Let me write what I understood from your reply below. Although we say that in case Rahu is in 9th house we should wear 'Yellow Sapphire' in ring finger to take care of negative effects which rahu in 9th house bring, but it may not be true. Wearing yellow saphire just becuase Rahu is in 9th house will not bring any good or positive effects.

If this is true then why in someof our threads also we are saying to wear yellow saphire for rahu in 9th house?

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Vipin

 

 

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Swee Chan <sweechansohamsa To: sohamsa Subject: RE: Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questionsWed, 13 Dec 2006 16:04:14 -0800

 

 

 

Jaya JagannathaDear Vipin,NamasteComments below:Respected Visti Ji , Swee Ji, Anuj Ji and Gurujans.I have been interestingly reading all the threads related to Gem Stones and their effects. Especially for Jupiter. In one of the threads and also in book from one of our sohamasa guru and lecture from Guru Sarrajit Poddar, I read that if RAHU is in 9th house then one should wear Yellow Sapphire or its substiture like yellow citrine or topaz in right hand's ring finger. This should be worn in Gold. SWEE: In that case why bother to learn the exaltation Sign of any graha or its mitra Signs? In the case when Rahu is in Taurus, I would rather recommend a Yellow Diamond which serves the purpose for both Venus and Jupiter, the two great natural benefics. This is suitable especially for a gentleman belonging to the Kshatria varna. Else, I would stay put with a white Diamond. As for yellow Topaz, it is non existent.My question is:><P>1) Is this the general rule which is applicable to all the sigs and lagna. In my case I have Leo Lagna and I have Saturn in 8th house ( Pis) and Rahu in 9th ( Aries) , Sat is my UL and DK also and Rahu is 2nd from UL. As u all know Sat in 8th is not at all good and Rahu in 9th and 2nd from UL is again bad and it had bought me lot of problems in my personnel life and I have been going thru lot of issue. Now although I have been wearing this ring since beginning of this year, it has not bought any good effects or relief to me. I have Sun + Venu in my 5th house and Mer in 4th and Mars in 2nd from Lagna with Jupiter in 12th house. SWEE: Yes, in your case. But why not the Ruby if it is the spiritual path is paving your way? In my personal opinion, a Yellow Sapphire is over rated. It is not the cure all. After why, why would the scriptures state that the Green Diamond is Vishnu's abode? Isn't HE more encompassing than Brihaspati?</P>><P>Also I am wearing Durga Locket around my neck</P>><P>Am I doing something wrong or have I missed something. I remember at time of wearing on thrusday I had recited Vishnu Mantra.SWEE: Nothing wrong with this at all. Durga locket is the correct one for attracting wealth. Wealth comes in many forms, especially of knowledge and who better than Her to appease in the form of a kavach? The locket requires you to "recharge" it at least once every 3 years with all the proper rites. Durga Ma ahs her own mantras for you to eulogise, her own kavacha mantras etc.love,Swee<P>All the help on this will be very helpful. Prior to wearing Topaz or citrine I was weaing Ruby in my ring finger.It will go long way in which can be a divine help to overcome the issues.</P>><P>Namaste Visti,<BR><BR>In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you. <BR><BR>In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately. <BR><BR>I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind? <BR><BR>My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing >this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter. <BR><BR>I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.<BR><BR>Thanks and Regards<BR>Anuj<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 12/9/06, <B class="gmail_sendername">Visti Larsen</B> & lt; <A href="visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <WBR>com</A> & gt; wrote:</SPAN>><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote">><DIV style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255);">><DIV>><DIV>><DIV>><P><BR></P>><DIV><SPAN class="q"><SPAN>????????? ????????? ??????????????????</SPAN><BR></SPAN>><P>Dear Bharat, Namaskar<BR>One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.<BR>Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.<BR>Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.<BR>Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling, but lets see.<BR>Yours sincerely, </P><SPAN class="q"><SPAN>-- <BR>Visti Larsen<BR>email: <A href="visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <WBR>com</A><BR>For consultations and articles visit: <A href="http://srigaruda.com/"!>http:!/!> /srigaruda.<WBR>com </A></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN class="e" id="q_10f68593b3461349_5"><BR><BR>Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:><BLOCKQUOTE cite="http://mid7c78a1c70612090806l5312d12k1e8ab2a1e471160d.com">><DIV>><DIV>><DIV>><P>Namaste Sri Visti<BR><BR>Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out the same. <BR><BR>If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too. <BR><BR>Thanks and Regards<BR>Bharat (Anuj)<BR><BR><BR><BR></P>><DIV><SPAN>On 12/9/06, <B>Visti Larsen</B> & lt;<A href="visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com</A> & gt; wrote: </SPAN>><BLOCKQUOTE>><DIV>><DIV>><DIV>><DIV>><P><BR></P>><DIV><SPAN>????????? ????????? ??????????????????</SPAN><BR>><P>Dear Pranav, Namaskar<BR>I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|<BR></P>><P>I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?<BR></P>><P><B>o Pratama prasna</B><BR>The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.<BR></P>><P><B>o Dvitiiya prasna</B><BR>When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.<BR></P>><P>This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.<BR></P>><P><B>o Tritiiya prasna<BR></B>There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.<BR></P>><P>Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).<BR></P>><P>Yours sincerely, </P><SPAN>-- <BR>Visti Larsen<BR>email: <A href="visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com</A><BR>For consultations and articles visit: <A href="http://srigaruda.com/">http://srigaruda. com </A></SPAN></DIV><SPAN><BR><BR>sushmagupta51 wrote:><BLOCKQUOTE cite="http://mid20061208205446.51686.qmail (AT) web60919 (DOT) mail.">><DIV>><DIV>><DIV>><DIV>!Om Gurveh Namah!</DIV>><DIV> & nbsp;</DIV>><DIV><SPAN>Dear Visti ji, Namaskar! </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN>I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts. </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN>I have a couple of Qns: </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>1.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><B><SPAN>Prescription of Blue sapphire</SPAN></B><SPAN> : <BR><BR>You mention for :<BR>- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR <BR>- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire. </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>a.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended? & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>b.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H. <BR>e.g. - Taurus asc ??? Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended? & nbsp;<BR><BR></SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN><SPAN>2.<SPAN> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><B><SPAN>Strengthening 9th Lord</SPAN></B><SPAN>:<BR><BR>Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?<BR>e.g. - Aries & nbsp; & nbsp; Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses<BR> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN>Let me know when you get a moment. </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN> & nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>><DIV><SPAN>Warm regards,<BR>Pranav </SPAN></DIV>><DIV> </DIV>><DIV> & nbsp;</DIV>><P></P>Cheap Talk? <A href="http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd./evt=39663/*http://voice.">Check out</A> Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. </DIV><SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN></DIV><SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN></DIV>><P></P></DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: white;"></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>><P></P></DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: white;"></SPAN>>><BR></div></div></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear="all"><hr> <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2752??PS=47575" target="_top">All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.? 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