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Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses owned

by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

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Dear Oliver

I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine has

the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems at

some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors need

to be addressed also....

best wishes

M

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Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Marg,

 

I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Marg <margie9

 

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Oliver

I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine has

the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems at

some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors need

to be addressed also....

best wishes

M

-

Oliver Fallon

 

Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses owned

by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

 

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Dear Krishnamurthy ji, Marg, Oliver,

 

Mars in lagna in gemini also aspects moon in 8H. It is in degree conjunction

with venus who is also 12L. Mars disposits a debilitated saturn who also

aspecting it. Moon and mars dashas can be trying periods for gemini

ascendant if they are not well placed. Mars aspects both 4H/8H and moon

besides 7H, LL mercury retrograde with Rahu. There could be some problem in

learning/some neuro muscular disorder as the child has undergone 10 years of

8H moon having mulriple afflictions.

Krishnamurthy ji, please correct me if I am wrong, but I get jupiter

retrograde in 10H and he has just started mars dasha.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

2009/6/7 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

 

>

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ________________________________

> Marg <margie9 <margie9%40talktalk.net>>

> <%40>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

>

>

> Dear Oliver

> I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in

> Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be

> health problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of

> mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to

> over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and

> is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to

> poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due

> to emotional exhaustion.

> I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few

> with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus

> combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of

> confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular

> problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course

> other factors need to be addressed also....

> best wishes

> M

> -

> Oliver Fallon

>

> Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

> exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its

> effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

> owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

>

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Hi Krisnamurthy

Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini........allergies

can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars in Mercury

sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your client's case two

malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically debilitating. Is

there no benefic aspect on the asc?

 

Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it

would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

best wishes

M

 

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Marg,

 

I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

________________________________

Marg <margie9

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Dear Oliver

I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

best wishes

M

-

Oliver Fallon

Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

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Dear Marg,

 

Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the 4th.

As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the energies of

the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya dosha.

 

Thanks for the details of the other case.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Marg <margie9

 

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Krisnamurthy

Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini...... ..allergies

can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars in Mercury

sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your client's case two

malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically debilitating. Is

there no benefic aspect on the asc?

 

Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it

would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

best wishes

M

 

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

 

Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Marg,

 

I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

 

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Oliver

I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine has

the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems at

some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors need

to be addressed also....

best wishes

M

-

Oliver Fallon

 

Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses owned

by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

 

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Dear Krishna,

 

Where is Moon and what is the condition of her in the chart?

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

On 6/7/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

> Dear Marg,

>

> I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

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Dear Marg,

Thank you very much for your reply.

I hadn't considered the medical aspect w hich you point out and as you say:

 

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus....

 

this is not unlikely as the boy has not been vaccinated against mumps so he is

indeed in such danger.

 

But what are the more general consequences of this combination?

The sadbala of Venus is stronger than I have ever seen in a chart.

Surely this will have an effect?

 

I am also curious about the effect on the 12th house being ruled by a benefic.

Oliver

 

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Dear Oliver

> I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

> I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

> best wishes

> M

> -

> Oliver Fallon

>

> Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its

effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Raavindramani,

 

Moon is in Libra - Swati nakshatra

 

 

Sorry, I can not share the birth details as I have no permission to do so.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

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Ravindramani CS <ravindramani

 

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 9:55:52 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

Where is Moon and what is the condition of her in the chart?

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

On 6/7/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote:

> Dear Marg,

>

> I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Krishnamurthy

Shame there are no benefics to help out with the condition, but if any benefics

are in kendra or trikona these are supposed to help overcome?

best wishes

M

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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:44 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Marg,

 

Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the

4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the

energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya

dosha.

 

Thanks for the details of the other case.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

________________________________

Marg <margie9

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Hi Krisnamurthy

Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars

in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your

client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically

debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

 

Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it would

be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

best wishes

M

 

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Dear Marg,

 

I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Dear Oliver

I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

best wishes

M

-

Oliver Fallon

Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

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In the chart originally under discussion:

 

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

 

the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections.

If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of Venus

in this chart?

I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread.

With thanks,

Oliver

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

wrote:

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the

4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the

energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya

dosha.

>

> Thanks for the details of the other case.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Marg <margie9

>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Krisnamurthy

> Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars

in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your

client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically

debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

>

> Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it

would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

> best wishes

> M

>

> -

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

>

> Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

> Dear Oliver

> I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

> I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

> best wishes

> M

> -

> Oliver Fallon

>

> Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

>

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Dear Marg,

 

Though Jupiter is in Kendra, it has Kendradhipatya dosha and closely conjunct

Saturn. I am not sure how much it could help. Moon is in Libra (5th), but moving

towards its deep debilitation point and also disposits Rahu.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

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Monday, 8 June, 2009 1:20:44 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishnamurthy

Shame there are no benefics to help out with the condition, but if any benefics

are in kendra or trikona these are supposed to help overcome?

best wishes

M

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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:44 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Marg,

 

Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the 4th.

As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the energies of

the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya dosha.

 

Thanks for the details of the other case.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

 

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Hi Krisnamurthy

Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini...... ..allergies

can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars in Mercury

sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your client's case two

malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically debilitating. Is

there no benefic aspect on the asc?

 

Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it would

be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

best wishes

M

 

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

 

Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Marg,

 

I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

 

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Oliver

I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine has

the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems at

some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors need

to be addressed also....

best wishes

M

-

Oliver Fallon

 

Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses owned

by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

 

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Dear Krishna

It's the same with my sample for the epilepsy, though Ju is with Moon in kendra

there is too much malefic aspect, though I suppose she gets some remedies which

help her deal with the epilepsy so that she can live a near normal life.

best wishes

M

 

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Monday, June 08, 2009 12:18 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Marg,

 

Though Jupiter is in Kendra, it has Kendradhipatya dosha and closely conjunct

Saturn. I am not sure how much it could help. Moon is in Libra (5th), but moving

towards its deep debilitation point and also disposits Rahu.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

________________________________

Marg <margie9

Monday, 8 June, 2009 1:20:44 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Dear Krishnamurthy

Shame there are no benefics to help out with the condition, but if any

benefics are in kendra or trikona these are supposed to help overcome?

best wishes

M

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:44 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Dear Marg,

 

Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the

4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the

energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya

dosha.

 

Thanks for the details of the other case.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Hi Krisnamurthy

Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars

in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your

client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically

debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

 

Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it would

be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

best wishes

M

 

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Dear Marg,

 

I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Dear Oliver

I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

best wishes

M

-

Oliver Fallon

Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

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Dear Oliver:

 

I am not sure if anyone else has already responded to this, but here is my

response to your question.

 

Please see my comments below.

 

David Hawthorne

 

 

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna.

 

I DISAGREE THAT MARS IS A MALEFIC FOR GEMINI.

 

THE MOOLTRIKONA SIGN FOR MARS IS ARIES, WHICH FALLS IN THE FAVORABLE

ELEVENTH HOUSE, THUS RENDERING MARS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR GEMINI.

 

(CASE IN POINT: MARS, RULING INCOME, FOR BILL GATES, A GEMINI).

 

If it is exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this

mitigate its effects?

 

THE MOOLTRIKONA SIGN FOR VENUS IS LIBRA, WHICH FALLS IN THE FIFTH HOUSE FOR

GEMINI; SO VENUS, TOO, IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR GEMINI.

 

THE CLOSE CONJUNCTION OF MARS AND VENUS BRINGS PASSION, CREATIVITY,

EDUCATION, INVESTMENTS, CHILDREN, INCOME, AND FRIENDSHIPS.

 

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

 

CONSIDER LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY...

 

YES, VENUS AND MARS ARE CONJUNCT, AND THEY ARE TWO FAVORABLE PLANETS FOR

GEMINI, SO THERE IS NO ADVERSE EFFECTS.

 

HOWEVER, BOTH VENUS AND MARS ARE IN OLD AGE STATE (PAST 25 DEGREES), AND ARE

CONSIDERED WEAK.

 

THEY ARE ALSO BOTH OUTSIDE OF THE 5-DEGREE ORB OF INFLUENCE OF ANY OTHER

PLANETS, SUCH AS THE FIFTH ASPECT OF KETU, AND THE THIRD ASPECT OF SATURN.

 

SO THERE ARE NO NEGATIVE INFLUENCES ON MARS AND VENUS.

 

IT IS SAFE TO STRENGTHEN VENUS AND MARS WITH A DIAMOND AND RED CORAL.

 

HOWEVER, THESE ARE NOT THE WEAKEST PLANETS IN THE CHART.

 

SATURN, RULING THE NINTH HOUSE OF GURU AND FATHER IS DEBILITATED, AND MOON,

RULING MOTHER, WEALTH, AND CONTINUATION OF FAMILY LIFE IS BADLY PLACED IN

THE EIGHTH HOUSE.

 

SO IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO STRENGTHEN SATURN AND MOON IN THE CHART, WITH A

BLUE SAPPHIRE AND PEARL.

 

MERCURY AND JUPITER ARE ALSO WEAK IN INFANT STATE.

 

 

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

THE WELL PLACED JUPITER IN THE TENTH HOUSE SUPPORTS TEACHING, CONSULTING,

LAW, RELIGION, AND ADVISORY ROLES.

 

SATURN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE INDICATES INCOME THROUGH SERVICE, HARD WORK,

AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING.

 

VENUS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES GOOD APPEARANCE, AND BRINGS WIFE, CHILDREN,

AND EDUCATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR THE FINE, HEALING, AND

PERFORMING ARTS.

 

MARS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES COURAGE, LOGIC, PROPERTY, ATHLETIC AND

EXECUTIVE ABILITY, AND BRINGS CLOSE CONNECTION WITH FATHER, GURU, AND

RELIGION.

 

I HOPE THESE POINTS ARE HELPFUL.

 

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON PLANETARY REMEDIES, PLEASE SEND A PRIVATE EMAIL TO

ME AT: DAVID

 

DAVID HAWTHORNE

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

 

 

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Hi David

myself and Krishnamurthy replied to this but not in as much depth as your good

self, but the poster hasn't yet replied. Nice analysis on your part, and much

more comprehensive than those already given

best wishes

M

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Monday, June 08, 2009 6:16 PM

RE: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Oliver:

 

I am not sure if anyone else has already responded to this, but here is my

response to your question.

 

Please see my comments below.

 

David Hawthorne

 

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna.

 

I DISAGREE THAT MARS IS A MALEFIC FOR GEMINI.

 

THE MOOLTRIKONA SIGN FOR MARS IS ARIES, WHICH FALLS IN THE FAVORABLE

ELEVENTH HOUSE, THUS RENDERING MARS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR GEMINI.

 

(CASE IN POINT: MARS, RULING INCOME, FOR BILL GATES, A GEMINI).

 

If it is exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this

mitigate its effects?

 

THE MOOLTRIKONA SIGN FOR VENUS IS LIBRA, WHICH FALLS IN THE FIFTH HOUSE FOR

GEMINI; SO VENUS, TOO, IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR GEMINI.

 

THE CLOSE CONJUNCTION OF MARS AND VENUS BRINGS PASSION, CREATIVITY,

EDUCATION, INVESTMENTS, CHILDREN, INCOME, AND FRIENDSHIPS.

 

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

 

CONSIDER LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY...

 

YES, VENUS AND MARS ARE CONJUNCT, AND THEY ARE TWO FAVORABLE PLANETS FOR

GEMINI, SO THERE IS NO ADVERSE EFFECTS.

 

HOWEVER, BOTH VENUS AND MARS ARE IN OLD AGE STATE (PAST 25 DEGREES), AND ARE

CONSIDERED WEAK.

 

THEY ARE ALSO BOTH OUTSIDE OF THE 5-DEGREE ORB OF INFLUENCE OF ANY OTHER

PLANETS, SUCH AS THE FIFTH ASPECT OF KETU, AND THE THIRD ASPECT OF SATURN.

 

SO THERE ARE NO NEGATIVE INFLUENCES ON MARS AND VENUS.

 

IT IS SAFE TO STRENGTHEN VENUS AND MARS WITH A DIAMOND AND RED CORAL.

 

HOWEVER, THESE ARE NOT THE WEAKEST PLANETS IN THE CHART.

 

SATURN, RULING THE NINTH HOUSE OF GURU AND FATHER IS DEBILITATED, AND MOON,

RULING MOTHER, WEALTH, AND CONTINUATION OF FAMILY LIFE IS BADLY PLACED IN

THE EIGHTH HOUSE.

 

SO IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO STRENGTHEN SATURN AND MOON IN THE CHART, WITH A

BLUE SAPPHIRE AND PEARL.

 

MERCURY AND JUPITER ARE ALSO WEAK IN INFANT STATE.

 

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

THE WELL PLACED JUPITER IN THE TENTH HOUSE SUPPORTS TEACHING, CONSULTING,

LAW, RELIGION, AND ADVISORY ROLES.

 

SATURN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE INDICATES INCOME THROUGH SERVICE, HARD WORK,

AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING.

 

VENUS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES GOOD APPEARANCE, AND BRINGS WIFE, CHILDREN,

AND EDUCATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR THE FINE, HEALING, AND

PERFORMING ARTS.

 

MARS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES COURAGE, LOGIC, PROPERTY, ATHLETIC AND

EXECUTIVE ABILITY, AND BRINGS CLOSE CONNECTION WITH FATHER, GURU, AND

RELIGION.

 

I HOPE THESE POINTS ARE HELPFUL.

 

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON PLANETARY REMEDIES, PLEASE SEND A PRIVATE EMAIL TO

ME AT: DAVID

 

DAVID HAWTHORNE

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

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Dear Oliver,

 

Very interesting thread which I just noticed. Thanks! Few questions if you can

provide answers:

What grade (in school) is Felix in?

How is his performance in school?

What is his most favourite food item or dish?

 

Thanks in advance :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Oliver Fallon " <opfallon wrote:

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

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Thank you, dear M.....

 

Always nice to hear from you.

 

David

 

 

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Marg

Monday, June 08, 2009 4:48 PM

 

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

Hi David

myself and Krishnamurthy replied to this but not in as much depth as your

good self, but the poster hasn't yet replied. Nice analysis on your part,

and much more comprehensive than those already given

best wishes

M

-

David Hawthorne

Monday, June 08, 2009 6:16 PM

RE: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Oliver:

 

I am not sure if anyone else has already responded to this, but here is my

response to your question.

 

Please see my comments below.

 

David Hawthorne

 

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna.

 

I DISAGREE THAT MARS IS A MALEFIC FOR GEMINI.

 

THE MOOLTRIKONA SIGN FOR MARS IS ARIES, WHICH FALLS IN THE FAVORABLE

ELEVENTH HOUSE, THUS RENDERING MARS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR GEMINI.

 

(CASE IN POINT: MARS, RULING INCOME, FOR BILL GATES, A GEMINI).

 

If it is exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this

mitigate its effects?

 

THE MOOLTRIKONA SIGN FOR VENUS IS LIBRA, WHICH FALLS IN THE FIFTH HOUSE

FOR

GEMINI; SO VENUS, TOO, IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR GEMINI.

 

THE CLOSE CONJUNCTION OF MARS AND VENUS BRINGS PASSION, CREATIVITY,

EDUCATION, INVESTMENTS, CHILDREN, INCOME, AND FRIENDSHIPS.

 

Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

 

CONSIDER LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY...

 

YES, VENUS AND MARS ARE CONJUNCT, AND THEY ARE TWO FAVORABLE PLANETS FOR

GEMINI, SO THERE IS NO ADVERSE EFFECTS.

 

HOWEVER, BOTH VENUS AND MARS ARE IN OLD AGE STATE (PAST 25 DEGREES), AND

ARE

CONSIDERED WEAK.

 

THEY ARE ALSO BOTH OUTSIDE OF THE 5-DEGREE ORB OF INFLUENCE OF ANY OTHER

PLANETS, SUCH AS THE FIFTH ASPECT OF KETU, AND THE THIRD ASPECT OF SATURN.

 

SO THERE ARE NO NEGATIVE INFLUENCES ON MARS AND VENUS.

 

IT IS SAFE TO STRENGTHEN VENUS AND MARS WITH A DIAMOND AND RED CORAL.

 

HOWEVER, THESE ARE NOT THE WEAKEST PLANETS IN THE CHART.

 

SATURN, RULING THE NINTH HOUSE OF GURU AND FATHER IS DEBILITATED, AND

MOON,

RULING MOTHER, WEALTH, AND CONTINUATION OF FAMILY LIFE IS BADLY PLACED IN

THE EIGHTH HOUSE.

 

SO IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO STRENGTHEN SATURN AND MOON IN THE CHART, WITH A

BLUE SAPPHIRE AND PEARL.

 

MERCURY AND JUPITER ARE ALSO WEAK IN INFANT STATE.

 

Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

 

THE WELL PLACED JUPITER IN THE TENTH HOUSE SUPPORTS TEACHING, CONSULTING,

LAW, RELIGION, AND ADVISORY ROLES.

 

SATURN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE INDICATES INCOME THROUGH SERVICE, HARD WORK,

AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING.

 

VENUS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES GOOD APPEARANCE, AND BRINGS WIFE, CHILDREN,

AND EDUCATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR THE FINE, HEALING,

AND

PERFORMING ARTS.

 

MARS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES COURAGE, LOGIC, PROPERTY, ATHLETIC AND

EXECUTIVE ABILITY, AND BRINGS CLOSE CONNECTION WITH FATHER, GURU, AND

RELIGION.

 

I HOPE THESE POINTS ARE HELPFUL.

 

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON PLANETARY REMEDIES, PLEASE SEND A PRIVATE EMAIL TO

ME AT: DAVID

 

DAVID HAWTHORNE

 

I am thinking of a specific chart:

 

Name: Felix

Place of birth: London UK

Time: 01.32am

07 August 1998

 

With thanks for your help,

Oliver

 

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Dear Neelam ji,

 

I was not talking about the chart Oliver has given. I was talking about one more

case I came across.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

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Sunday, 7 June, 2009 3:15:05 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishnamurthy ji, Marg, Oliver,

 

Mars in lagna in gemini also aspects moon in 8H. It is in degree conjunction

with venus who is also 12L. Mars disposits a debilitated saturn who also

aspecting it. Moon and mars dashas can be trying periods for gemini

ascendant if they are not well placed. Mars aspects both 4H/8H and moon

besides 7H, LL mercury retrograde with Rahu. There could be some problem in

learning/some neuro muscular disorder as the child has undergone 10 years of

8H moon having mulriple afflictions.

Krishnamurthy ji, please correct me if I am wrong, but I get jupiter

retrograde in 10H and he has just started mars dasha.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

2009/6/7 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ >

 

>

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net <margie9%40talktalk .net>>

> <% 40. com>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

>

>

> Dear Oliver

> I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in

> Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be

> health problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of

> mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to

> over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and

> is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to

> poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due

> to emotional exhaustion.

> I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few

> with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus

> combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of

> confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular

> problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course

> other factors need to be addressed also....

> best wishes

> M

> -

> Oliver Fallon

>

> Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

> exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its

> effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

> owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

>

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Dear Oliver,

 

Let me answer your specific question: What is the effect of Venus in this chart?

 

1. Venus (12L) conjunct with Mars (6L) causing vipareeta Rajayoga. This is good

for the material plane

 

2. However, as Mars is 6L of obstacles and diseases, Venus gets afflicated by

Mars. This might create some health issues like:

 

- problem with left eye or feet, or

- stomach/kidney/pancreas related problems

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Oliver Fallon <opfallon

 

Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

 

 

 

 

In the chart originally under discussion:

 

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

 

the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections.

If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of Venus

in this chart?

I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread.

With thanks,

Oliver

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@

....> wrote:

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the

4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the

energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya

dosha.

>

> Thanks for the details of the other case.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Marg <margie9 >

>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Krisnamurthy

> Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars

in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your

client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically

debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

>

> Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it

would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

> best wishes

> M

>

> -

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

>

> Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

> Dear Oliver

> I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

> I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

> best wishes

> M

> -

> Oliver Fallon

>

> Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

>

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Dear Mr Oliver Fallon

 

Gemini is an airy sign.

Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5.

Occupant is stronger.  Mars and Venus in Asc.

Hence 6th and Asc are connected.

Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn.

Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu.

Jupiter will contribute to mucus.

Lungs are signified by Mercury.  Airy sign will get connected to Lungs, since

air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs.

Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of 5th.

 

Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting.  Native should take

homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments.

 

Homoepathy should help.

 

Rgds

MK Viswanath

 

 

 

________________________________

Oliver Fallon <opfallon

 

Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

 

 

 

 

 

In the chart originally under discussion:

 

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

 

the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections.

If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of Venus

in this chart?

I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread.

With thanks,

Oliver

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@

....> wrote:

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the

4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the

energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya

dosha.

>

> Thanks for the details of the other case.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Marg <margie9 >

>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Krisnamurthy

> Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars

in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your

client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically

debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

>

> Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can

cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra

aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with

Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with

Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat

dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it would

be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

> best wishes

> M

>

> -

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

>

> Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

> Dear Marg,

>

> I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent

health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related

issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out

the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end

soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct

Saturn.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

>

> Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

>

> Dear Oliver

> I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini

asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health

problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

> I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with

the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with

mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness

and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

> best wishes

> M

> -

> Oliver Fallon

>

> Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly

conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

>

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Saturn holds the 8th house of chronic diseases and his nature as such it is

of longer spells.

 

CSR Mani

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Viswas <astrologervishy_nairwrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Mr Oliver Fallon

>

> Gemini is an airy sign.

> Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5.

> Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc.

> Hence 6th and Asc are connected.

> Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn.

> Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu.

> Jupiter will contribute to mucus.

> Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs,

> since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs.

> Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of 5th.

>

> Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take

> homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments.

>

> Homoepathy should help.

>

> Rgds

> MK Viswanath

>

>

> ________________________________

> Oliver Fallon <opfallon <opfallon%40>>

> <%40>

> Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

>

> In the chart originally under discussion:

>

> > Name: Felix

> > Place of birth: London UK

> > Time: 01.32am

> > 07 August 1998

>

> the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections.

> If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of

> Venus in this chart?

> I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread.

> With thanks,

> Oliver

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Marg,

> >

> > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from

> the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of

> the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has

> kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Thanks for the details of the other case.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Marg <margie9 >

> >

> > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Krisnamurthy

> > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

> ..allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with

> Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in

> your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be

> terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

> >

> > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic

> aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn

> in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in

> fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in

> seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during

> Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I

> estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

> > best wishes

> > M

> >

> > -

> > Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> >

> > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

> >

> > Dear Marg,

> >

> > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

> >

> > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

> >

> > Dear Oliver

> > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in

> Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be

> health problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of

> mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to

> over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and

> is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to

> poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due

> to emotional exhaustion.

> > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few

> with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus

> combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of

> confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular

> problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course

> other factors need to be addressed also....

> > best wishes

> > M

> > -

> > Oliver Fallon

> >

> > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

> >

> > Dear Jyotishis,

> >

> > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

> exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its

> effects?

> > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th

> houses owned by these planets?

> > Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

> >

> > I am thinking of a specific chart:

> >

> > Name: Felix

> > Place of birth: London UK

> > Time: 01.32am

> > 07 August 1998

> >

> > With thanks for your help,

> > Oliver

> >

> >

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Agreed, but Saturn's position helps.

 

Viswanath

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Ravindramani CS <ravindramani

 

Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:41:37 PM

Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Saturn holds the 8th house of chronic diseases and his nature as such it is

of longer spells.

 

CSR Mani

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT)

co.in>wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Mr Oliver Fallon

>

> Gemini is an airy sign.

> Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5.

> Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc.

> Hence 6th and Asc are connected.

> Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn.

> Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu.

> Jupiter will contribute to mucus.

> Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs,

> since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs.

> Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of 5th.

>

> Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take

> homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments.

>

> Homoepathy should help.

>

> Rgds

> MK Viswanath

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Oliver Fallon <opfallon <opfallon%40. com>>

> <% 40. com>

> Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM

> Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

>

> In the chart originally under discussion:

>

> > Name: Felix

> > Place of birth: London UK

> > Time: 01.32am

> > 07 August 1998

>

> the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections.

> If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of

> Venus in this chart?

> I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread.

> With thanks,

> Oliver

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Marg,

> >

> > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from

> the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of

> the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has

> kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Thanks for the details of the other case.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Marg <margie9 >

> >

> > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Krisnamurthy

> > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

> ..allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with

> Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in

> your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be

> terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

> >

> > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic

> aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn

> in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in

> fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in

> seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during

> Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I

> estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

> > best wishes

> > M

> >

> > -

> > Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> >

> > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

> >

> > Dear Marg,

> >

> > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

> >

> > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

> >

> > Dear Oliver

> > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in

> Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be

> health problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of

> mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to

> over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and

> is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to

> poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due

> to emotional exhaustion.

> > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few

> with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus

> combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of

> confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular

> problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course

> other factors need to be addressed also....

> > best wishes

> > M

> > -

> > Oliver Fallon

> >

> > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> lagna

> >

> > Dear Jyotishis,

> >

> > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

> exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its

> effects?

> > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th

> houses owned by these planets?

> > Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

> >

> > I am thinking of a specific chart:

> >

> > Name: Felix

> > Place of birth: London UK

> > Time: 01.32am

> > 07 August 1998

> >

> > With thanks for your help,

> > Oliver

> >

> >

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Dear Viswanath,

 

11th is the 6th from 6th. Saturn's position certainly indicates the

recovery in a slow phase.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_nairwrote:

 

>

>

> Agreed, but Saturn's position helps.

>

> Viswanath

>

> ________________________________

> Ravindramani CS <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>>

> <%40>

> Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:41:37 PM

> Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

>

> Saturn holds the 8th house of chronic diseases and his nature as such it is

> of longer spells.

>

> CSR Mani

>

> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT)

> co.in>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr Oliver Fallon

> >

> > Gemini is an airy sign.

> > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5.

> > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc.

> > Hence 6th and Asc are connected.

> > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn.

> > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu.

> > Jupiter will contribute to mucus.

> > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs,

> > since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs.

> > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of

> 5th.

> >

> > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take

> > homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments.

> >

> > Homoepathy should help.

> >

> > Rgds

> > MK Viswanath

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Oliver Fallon <opfallon <opfallon%40. com>>

> > <% 40. com>

>

> > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna

> > lagna

> >

> > In the chart originally under discussion:

> >

> > > Name: Felix

> > > Place of birth: London UK

> > > Time: 01.32am

> > > 07 August 1998

> >

> > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest

> infections.

> > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of

> > Venus in this chart?

> > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread.

> > With thanks,

> > Oliver

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Marg,

> > >

> > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from

> > the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of

> > the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has

> > kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the details of the other case.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Marg <margie9 >

> > >

> > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

> > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> > Mithuna lagna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Krisnamurthy

> > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

> > ..allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that

> with

> > Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in

> > your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be

> > terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

> > >

> > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic

> > aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and

> Saturn

> > in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in

> > fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in

> > seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits

> during

> > Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I

> > estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

> > > best wishes

> > > M

> > >

> > > -

> > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > >

> > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

> > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> > Mithuna lagna

> > >

> > > Dear Marg,

> > >

> > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> > frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> > skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> > definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> > Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> > Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

> > >

> > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> > Mithuna lagna

> > >

> > > Dear Oliver

> > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in

> > Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would

> be

> > health problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of

> > mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to

> > over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus

> and

> > is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due

> to

> > poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help

> due

> > to emotional exhaustion.

> > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a

> few

> > with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus

> > combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of

> > confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular

> > problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course

> > other factors need to be addressed also....

> > > best wishes

> > > M

> > > -

> > > Oliver Fallon

> > >

> > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> > lagna

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotishis,

> > >

> > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

> > exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate

> its

> > effects?

> > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th

> > houses owned by these planets?

> > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

> > >

> > > I am thinking of a specific chart:

> > >

> > > Name: Felix

> > > Place of birth: London UK

> > > Time: 01.32am

> > > 07 August 1998

> > >

> > > With thanks for your help,

> > > Oliver

> > >

> > >

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Dear Olive

You are welcome. I have just stayed with the two planets in lagna as these

seemed to be your priority......the effect of Mars on Venus is the op as

mentioned, the effect of Mars on 12th house affairs shows a need to spend on

health matters i.e Mars L6 health, Venus L12 expenditure....however it also

shows debts (6th house affairs) connected to expenditure, so debts will arise

due to need for spending on health

Although Venus is high in shad bala this will not alter the spending need,

though I would say that the strength of Venus in shadbala makes the child more

sensual/sexual than if it were weak in strength, and also gives a stronger sense

of artistic capacity, though I am not saying he is a talented artist you

understand?

best wishes

M

-

Oliver Fallon

Sunday, June 07, 2009 7:32 PM

Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Marg,

Thank you very much for your reply.

I hadn't considered the medical aspect w hich you point out and as you say:

 

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus....

 

this is not unlikely as the boy has not been vaccinated against mumps so he is

indeed in such danger.

 

But what are the more general consequences of this combination?

The sadbala of Venus is stronger than I have ever seen in a chart.

Surely this will have an effect?

 

I am also curious about the effect on the 12th house being ruled by a benefic.

Oliver

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Dear Oliver

> I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in

Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be

health problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine

has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel

their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very

nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of

her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional

exhaustion.

> I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few

with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining

with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give

shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems

at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors

need to be addressed also....

> best wishes

> M

> -

> Oliver Fallon

>

> Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its

effects?

> Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses

owned by these planets?

> Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

>

> I am thinking of a specific chart:

>

> Name: Felix

> Place of birth: London UK

> Time: 01.32am

> 07 August 1998

>

> With thanks for your help,

> Oliver

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Mr. Mani

 

6th from 6th concept may be wrong.  It is used only in Vedic as per bhavat

bhavam.

But 11th signifies recovery.  Saturn is slow and nagging.

 

Rgds

Viswanath

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Ravindramani CS <ravindramani

 

Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:48:08 PM

Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Viswanath,

 

11th is the 6th from 6th. Saturn's position certainly indicates the

recovery in a slow phase.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT)

co.in>wrote:

 

>

>

> Agreed, but Saturn's position helps.

>

> Viswanath

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ gmail.com <ravindramani% 40gmail.com> >

> <% 40. com>

> Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:41:37 PM

> Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna lagna

>

> Saturn holds the 8th house of chronic diseases and his nature as such it is

> of longer spells.

>

> CSR Mani

>

> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT)

> co.in>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr Oliver Fallon

> >

> > Gemini is an airy sign.

> > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5.

> > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc.

> > Hence 6th and Asc are connected.

> > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn.

> > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu.

> > Jupiter will contribute to mucus.

> > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs,

> > since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs.

> > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of

> 5th.

> >

> > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take

> > homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments.

> >

> > Homoepathy should help.

> >

> > Rgds

> > MK Viswanath

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Oliver Fallon <opfallon <opfallon%40. com>>

> > <% 40. com>

>

> > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM

> > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> Mithuna

> > lagna

> >

> > In the chart originally under discussion:

> >

> > > Name: Felix

> > > Place of birth: London UK

> > > Time: 01.32am

> > > 07 August 1998

> >

> > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest

> infections.

> > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of

> > Venus in this chart?

> > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread.

> > With thanks,

> > Oliver

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Marg,

> > >

> > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from

> > the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of

> > the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has

> > kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the details of the other case.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Marg <margie9 >

> > >

> > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM

> > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> > Mithuna lagna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Krisnamurthy

> > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini......

> > ..allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that

> with

> > Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in

> > your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be

> > terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc?

> > >

> > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic

> > aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and

> Saturn

> > in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in

> > fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in

> > seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits

> during

> > Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I

> > estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising.

> > > best wishes

> > > M

> > >

> > > -

> > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > >

> > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM

> > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> > Mithuna lagna

> > >

> > > Dear Marg,

> > >

> > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has

> > frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some

> > skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna

> > definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the

> > Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars.

> > Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

> > >

> > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM

> > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in

> > Mithuna lagna

> > >

> > > Dear Oliver

> > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in

> > Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would

> be

> > health problems standing in the way of their progress in life.

> > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of

> > mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to

> > over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus

> and

> > is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due

> to

> > poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help

> due

> > to emotional exhaustion.

> > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a

> few

> > with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus

> > combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of

> > confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12.

> > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular

> > problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course

> > other factors need to be addressed also....

> > > best wishes

> > > M

> > > -

> > > Oliver Fallon

> > >

> > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM

> > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna

> > lagna

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotishis,

> > >

> > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is

> > exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate

> its

> > effects?

> > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th

> > houses owned by these planets?

> > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career?

> > >

> > > I am thinking of a specific chart:

> > >

> > > Name: Felix

> > > Place of birth: London UK

> > > Time: 01.32am

> > > 07 August 1998

> > >

> > > With thanks for your help,

> > > Oliver

> > >

> > >

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