Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Dear All, Thank you very much for your full replies. I will try to answer your further questions below in the order in which they were put: First David Hawthorne: >THE CLOSE CONJUNCTION OF MARS AND VENUS BRINGS PASSION, CREATIVITY, EDUCATION, INVESTMENTS, CHILDREN, INCOME, AND FRIENDSHIPS. The boy is indeed very creative, intelligent and is of so pleasant a nature (he has no malice in him at all) that he is well liked by all. Passion will show later in life, as will investments, children and income. He is receiving a good education in a private school and is also receiving the benefit of deeply cultured parents in spite of the fact of them being separated and being short of money. >THE WELL PLACED JUPITER IN THE TENTH HOUSE SUPPORTS TEACHING, CONSULTING, LAW, RELIGION, AND ADVISORY ROLES. >SATURN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE INDICATES INCOME THROUGH SERVICE, HARD WORK, AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING. >VENUS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES GOOD APPEARANCE, AND BRINGS WIFE, CHILDREN, AND EDUCATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR THE FINE, HEALING, AND PERFORMING ARTS. He is of very attractive appearance and already at a young age shows appreciation for the arts. >MARS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES COURAGE, LOGIC, PROPERTY, ATHLETIC AND EXECUTIVE ABILITY, AND BRINGS CLOSE CONNECTION WITH FATHER, GURU, AND RELIGION. There is a close connection with the father and with his teachers (he is beloved of them all) and he recieves a good spiritual/religious education. he appears to be courageous and is a logical thinker. He is likely to develop athleticism later, perhaps during Mars dasha which I calculate to begin in January 2010. ............. Neelam wrote: Mars in lagna in gemini also aspects moon in 8H. It is in degree conjunction with venus who is also 12L. Mars disposits a debilitated saturn who also aspecting it. Moon and mars dashas can be trying periods for gemini ascendant if they are not well placed. Mars aspects both 4H/8H and moon besides 7H, LL mercury retrograde with Rahu. There could be some problem in learning/some neuro muscular disorder as the child has undergone 10 years of 8H moon having mulriple afflictions. Reply: I think Mars dasha starts Jan 2010. The only problem with learning is mild dislexia. There is poor handwriting, spelling and physical coordination. There do not appear to be any significant neuro-muscular disorders. He is however very sensitive and feeling in nature. ................... Rohiniranjan asked: What grade (in school) is Felix in? How is his performance in school? What is his most favourite food item or dish? Reply: He is in grade 6 (usual for age 10, I don't know how the English system equates to other systems). As noted above there are problems with spelling and handwriting. He is however very good indeed at literary appreciation and composition and at art. He is able to appreciate an understand almost any subject but at this stage does not have the application to do well. He enjoys acting. his favourite food items are pasta with pesto sauce, rice with humous, pizza, sausages. .............. Krishna wrote: Let me answer your specific question: What is the effect of Venus in this chart? 1. Venus (12L) conjunct with Mars (6L) causing vipareeta Rajayoga. This is good for the material plane 2. However, as Mars is 6L of obstacles and diseases, Venus gets afflicated by Mars. This might create some health issues like: - problem with left eye or feet, or - stomach/kidney/ pancreas related problems Reply: He is still a boy so it is too early to see the material effect of Vipareeta Rajayoga of 6L and 12L. Again there are no problems yet with eyes, feet or internal organs. ................... MK Viswanath wrote: > Gemini is an airy sign. > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5. > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc. > Hence 6th and Asc are connected. > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn. > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu. > Jupiter will contribute to mucus. > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs, since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs. > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of 5th. > > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments. > > Homoepathy should help. > Reply: He is taking homeopathic remedies. Thank you all once again for your most generous responses, Oliver > > ________________________________ > Oliver Fallon <opfallon > > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > > > In the chart originally under discussion: > > > Name: Felix > > Place of birth: London UK > > Time: 01.32am > > 07 August 1998 > > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections. > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of Venus in this chart? > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread. > With thanks, > Oliver > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya dosha. > > > > Thanks for the details of the other case. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Marg <margie9@ > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Krisnamurthy > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini...... ...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc? > > > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising. > > best wishes > > M > > > > - > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Oliver > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health problems standing in the way of their progress in life. > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional exhaustion. > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12. > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors need to be addressed also.... > > best wishes > > M > > - > > Oliver Fallon > > > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects? > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses owned by these planets? > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career? > > > > I am thinking of a specific chart: > > > > Name: Felix > > Place of birth: London UK > > Time: 01.32am > > 07 August 1998 > > > > With thanks for your help, > > Oliver > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Dear Oliver Apologies for missing the 'r' off the end of your name in my last mail. I would like to add that the reason the boy is dyslexic is due to sixth lord aspect on second lord, this always happens in charts where the person has dyslexia and reading difficulty. best wishes M - Oliver Fallon Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:15 AM Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna Dear All, Thank you very much for your full replies. I will try to answer your further questions below in the order in which they were put: First David Hawthorne: >THE CLOSE CONJUNCTION OF MARS AND VENUS BRINGS PASSION, CREATIVITY, EDUCATION, INVESTMENTS, CHILDREN, INCOME, AND FRIENDSHIPS. The boy is indeed very creative, intelligent and is of so pleasant a nature (he has no malice in him at all) that he is well liked by all. Passion will show later in life, as will investments, children and income. He is receiving a good education in a private school and is also receiving the benefit of deeply cultured parents in spite of the fact of them being separated and being short of money. >THE WELL PLACED JUPITER IN THE TENTH HOUSE SUPPORTS TEACHING, CONSULTING, LAW, RELIGION, AND ADVISORY ROLES. >SATURN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE INDICATES INCOME THROUGH SERVICE, HARD WORK, AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING. >VENUS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES GOOD APPEARANCE, AND BRINGS WIFE, CHILDREN, AND EDUCATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR THE FINE, HEALING, AND PERFORMING ARTS. He is of very attractive appearance and already at a young age shows appreciation for the arts. >MARS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES COURAGE, LOGIC, PROPERTY, ATHLETIC AND EXECUTIVE ABILITY, AND BRINGS CLOSE CONNECTION WITH FATHER, GURU, AND RELIGION. There is a close connection with the father and with his teachers (he is beloved of them all) and he recieves a good spiritual/religious education. he appears to be courageous and is a logical thinker. He is likely to develop athleticism later, perhaps during Mars dasha which I calculate to begin in January 2010. ............ Neelam wrote: Mars in lagna in gemini also aspects moon in 8H. It is in degree conjunction with venus who is also 12L. Mars disposits a debilitated saturn who also aspecting it. Moon and mars dashas can be trying periods for gemini ascendant if they are not well placed. Mars aspects both 4H/8H and moon besides 7H, LL mercury retrograde with Rahu. There could be some problem in learning/some neuro muscular disorder as the child has undergone 10 years of 8H moon having mulriple afflictions. Reply: I think Mars dasha starts Jan 2010. The only problem with learning is mild dislexia. There is poor handwriting, spelling and physical coordination. There do not appear to be any significant neuro-muscular disorders. He is however very sensitive and feeling in nature. .................. Rohiniranjan asked: What grade (in school) is Felix in? How is his performance in school? What is his most favourite food item or dish? Reply: He is in grade 6 (usual for age 10, I don't know how the English system equates to other systems). As noted above there are problems with spelling and handwriting. He is however very good indeed at literary appreciation and composition and at art. He is able to appreciate an understand almost any subject but at this stage does not have the application to do well. He enjoys acting. his favourite food items are pasta with pesto sauce, rice with humous, pizza, sausages. ............. Krishna wrote: Let me answer your specific question: What is the effect of Venus in this chart? 1. Venus (12L) conjunct with Mars (6L) causing vipareeta Rajayoga. This is good for the material plane 2. However, as Mars is 6L of obstacles and diseases, Venus gets afflicated by Mars. This might create some health issues like: - problem with left eye or feet, or - stomach/kidney/ pancreas related problems Reply: He is still a boy so it is too early to see the material effect of Vipareeta Rajayoga of 6L and 12L. Again there are no problems yet with eyes, feet or internal organs. .................. MK Viswanath wrote: > Gemini is an airy sign. > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5. > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc. > Hence 6th and Asc are connected. > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn. > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu. > Jupiter will contribute to mucus. > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs, since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs. > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of 5th. > > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments. > > Homoepathy should help. > Reply: He is taking homeopathic remedies. Thank you all once again for your most generous responses, Oliver > > ________________________________ > Oliver Fallon <opfallon > > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > > > In the chart originally under discussion: > > > Name: Felix > > Place of birth: London UK > > Time: 01.32am > > 07 August 1998 > > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections. > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of Venus in this chart? > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread. > With thanks, > Oliver > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya dosha. > > > > Thanks for the details of the other case. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Marg <margie9@ > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Krisnamurthy > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini...... ...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc? > > > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising. > > best wishes > > M > > > > - > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Oliver > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health problems standing in the way of their progress in life. > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional exhaustion. > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12. > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors need to be addressed also.... > > best wishes > > M > > - > > Oliver Fallon > > > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects? > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses owned by these planets? > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career? > > > > I am thinking of a specific chart: > > > > Name: Felix > > Place of birth: London UK > > Time: 01.32am > > 07 August 1998 > > > > With thanks for your help, > > Oliver > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Dear Krishnamurthy ji, My mistake! Thanks for clarifying. Regards Neelam 2009/6/9 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > I was not talking about the chart Oliver has given. I was talking about one > more case I came across. > > Regards, > Krishna > > ________________________________ > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 <neelamgupta07%40gmail.com>> > <%40> > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 3:15:05 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna > lagna > > Dear Krishnamurthy ji, Marg, Oliver, > > Mars in lagna in gemini also aspects moon in 8H. It is in degree > conjunction > with venus who is also 12L. Mars disposits a debilitated saturn who also > aspecting it. Moon and mars dashas can be trying periods for gemini > ascendant if they are not well placed. Mars aspects both 4H/8H and moon > besides 7H, LL mercury retrograde with Rahu. There could be some problem in > learning/some neuro muscular disorder as the child has undergone 10 years > of > 8H moon having mulriple afflictions. > Krishnamurthy ji, please correct me if I am wrong, but I get jupiter > retrograde in 10H and he has just started mars dasha. > > Regards > Neelam > > 2009/6/7 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > > > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has > > frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some > > skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna > > definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the > > Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. > > Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net <margie9%40talktalk .net>> > > <% 40. com> > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > Mithuna > > lagna > > > > > > Dear Oliver > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in > > Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would > be > > health problems standing in the way of their progress in life. > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of > > mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to > > over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus > and > > is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due > to > > poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help > due > > to emotional exhaustion. > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few > > with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus > > combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of > > confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12. > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular > > problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course > > other factors need to be addressed also.... > > best wishes > > M > > - > > Oliver Fallon > > > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna > > lagna > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is > > exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate > its > > effects? > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th > houses > > owned by these planets? > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career? > > > > I am thinking of a specific chart: > > > > Name: Felix > > Place of birth: London UK > > Time: 01.32am > > 07 August 1998 > > > > With thanks for your help, > > Oliver > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Dear Oliver, Of course, whatever I have mentioned might have not manifested as on date. It will take appropriate dasha, bhuktis and transits for manifestation. The upcoming Mars MD should be watched. Regards, Krishna ________________________________ Oliver Fallon <opfallon Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 2:45:27 PM Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna Dear All, Thank you very much for your full replies. I will try to answer your further questions below in the order in which they were put: First David Hawthorne: >THE CLOSE CONJUNCTION OF MARS AND VENUS BRINGS PASSION, CREATIVITY, EDUCATION, INVESTMENTS, CHILDREN, INCOME, AND FRIENDSHIPS. The boy is indeed very creative, intelligent and is of so pleasant a nature (he has no malice in him at all) that he is well liked by all. Passion will show later in life, as will investments, children and income. He is receiving a good education in a private school and is also receiving the benefit of deeply cultured parents in spite of the fact of them being separated and being short of money. >THE WELL PLACED JUPITER IN THE TENTH HOUSE SUPPORTS TEACHING, CONSULTING, LAW, RELIGION, AND ADVISORY ROLES. >SATURN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE INDICATES INCOME THROUGH SERVICE, HARD WORK, AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING. >VENUS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES GOOD APPEARANCE, AND BRINGS WIFE, CHILDREN, AND EDUCATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR THE FINE, HEALING, AND PERFORMING ARTS. He is of very attractive appearance and already at a young age shows appreciation for the arts. >MARS IN THE FIRST HOUSE GIVES COURAGE, LOGIC, PROPERTY, ATHLETIC AND EXECUTIVE ABILITY, AND BRINGS CLOSE CONNECTION WITH FATHER, GURU, AND RELIGION. There is a close connection with the father and with his teachers (he is beloved of them all) and he recieves a good spiritual/religious education. he appears to be courageous and is a logical thinker. He is likely to develop athleticism later, perhaps during Mars dasha which I calculate to begin in January 2010. ............. Neelam wrote: Mars in lagna in gemini also aspects moon in 8H. It is in degree conjunction with venus who is also 12L. Mars disposits a debilitated saturn who also aspecting it. Moon and mars dashas can be trying periods for gemini ascendant if they are not well placed. Mars aspects both 4H/8H and moon besides 7H, LL mercury retrograde with Rahu. There could be some problem in learning/some neuro muscular disorder as the child has undergone 10 years of 8H moon having mulriple afflictions. Reply: I think Mars dasha starts Jan 2010. The only problem with learning is mild dislexia. There is poor handwriting, spelling and physical coordination. There do not appear to be any significant neuro-muscular disorders. He is however very sensitive and feeling in nature. ............. ...... Rohiniranjan asked: What grade (in school) is Felix in? How is his performance in school? What is his most favourite food item or dish? Reply: He is in grade 6 (usual for age 10, I don't know how the English system equates to other systems). As noted above there are problems with spelling and handwriting. He is however very good indeed at literary appreciation and composition and at art. He is able to appreciate an understand almost any subject but at this stage does not have the application to do well. He enjoys acting. his favourite food items are pasta with pesto sauce, rice with humous, pizza, sausages. ............. . Krishna wrote: Let me answer your specific question: What is the effect of Venus in this chart? 1. Venus (12L) conjunct with Mars (6L) causing vipareeta Rajayoga. This is good for the material plane 2. However, as Mars is 6L of obstacles and diseases, Venus gets afflicated by Mars. This might create some health issues like: - problem with left eye or feet, or - stomach/kidney/ pancreas related problems Reply: He is still a boy so it is too early to see the material effect of Vipareeta Rajayoga of 6L and 12L. Again there are no problems yet with eyes, feet or internal organs. ............. ...... MK Viswanath wrote: > Gemini is an airy sign. > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5. > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc. > Hence 6th and Asc are connected. > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn. > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu. > Jupiter will contribute to mucus. > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs, since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs. > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of 5th. > > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments. > > Homoepathy should help. > Reply: He is taking homeopathic remedies. Thank you all once again for your most generous responses, Oliver > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Oliver Fallon <opfallon@.. .> > > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > > > In the chart originally under discussion: > > > Name: Felix > > Place of birth: London UK > > Time: 01.32am > > 07 August 1998 > > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest infections. > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect of Venus in this chart? > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate thread. > With thanks, > Oliver > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects from the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some of the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has kendradhipatya dosha. > > > > Thanks for the details of the other case. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Marg <margie9@ > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Krisnamurthy > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini...... ...allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that with Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though in your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc? > > > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and Saturn in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits during Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising. > > best wishes > > M > > > > - > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. Some skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in the Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by Mars. Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Oliver > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars in Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would be health problems standing in the way of their progress in life. > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client of mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try to over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus and is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown due to poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed help due to emotional exhaustion. > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a few with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12. > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of course other factors need to be addressed also.... > > best wishes > > M > > - > > Oliver Fallon > > > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate its effects? > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th houses owned by these planets? > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career? > > > > I am thinking of a specific chart: > > > > Name: Felix > > Place of birth: London UK > > Time: 01.32am > > 07 August 1998 > > > > With thanks for your help, > > Oliver > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 The 6th house is diseases. 6th from 6th, the 11th house, as per bhavat bhavam, should possess the element of disease. The 11th house acts as disease to disease and enemies to enemies. Saturn in 11th and aspects lagna. Indication is chronic diseases. 11th house is recovery. As per the nature of Saturn, there is chronic disease, and recovery in a snail's pace. c.s.r. mani On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_nairwrote: > > > Mr. Mani > > 6th from 6th concept may be wrong. It is used only in Vedic as per bhavat > bhavam. > But 11th signifies recovery. Saturn is slow and nagging. > > Rgds > Viswanath > > ________________________________ > Ravindramani CS <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>> > <%40> > Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:48:08 PM > Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > Mithuna lagna > > Dear Viswanath, > > 11th is the 6th from 6th. Saturn's position certainly indicates the > recovery in a slow phase. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) > co.in>wrote: > > > > > > > Agreed, but Saturn's position helps. > > > > Viswanath > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ gmail.com <ravindramani% > 40gmail.com> > > > > <% 40. com> > > Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:41:37 PM > > Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > Mithuna lagna > > > > Saturn holds the 8th house of chronic diseases and his nature as such it > is > > of longer spells. > > > > CSR Mani > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) > > co.in>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Oliver Fallon > > > > > > Gemini is an airy sign. > > > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5. > > > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc. > > > Hence 6th and Asc are connected. > > > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn. > > > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu. > > > Jupiter will contribute to mucus. > > > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to Lungs, > > > since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs. > > > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord of > > 5th. > > > > > > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should take > > > homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments. > > > > > > Homoepathy should help. > > > > > > Rgds > > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Oliver Fallon <opfallon <opfallon%40. com>> > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > Mithuna > > > lagna > > > > > > In the chart originally under discussion: > > > > > > > Name: Felix > > > > Place of birth: London UK > > > > Time: 01.32am > > > > 07 August 1998 > > > > > > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest > > infections. > > > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect > of > > > Venus in this chart? > > > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate > thread. > > > With thanks, > > > Oliver > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > > > > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects > from > > > the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider some > of > > > the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has > > > kendradhipatya dosha. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the details of the other case. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Marg <margie9 > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Krisnamurthy > > > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna Gemini...... > > > ..allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect that > > with > > > Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, though > in > > > your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must be > > > terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc? > > > > > > > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic > > > aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and > > Saturn > > > in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was in > > > fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn in > > > seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits > > during > > > Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but I > > > estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus rising. > > > > best wishes > > > > M > > > > > > > > - > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > > > > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > > > > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too has > > > frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. > Some > > > skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in lagna > > > definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in > the > > > Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by > Mars. > > > Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> > > > > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > Dear Oliver > > > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with Mars > in > > > Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it would > > be > > > health problems standing in the way of their progress in life. > > > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a client > of > > > mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who try > to > > > over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease lupus > > and > > > is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown > due > > to > > > poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed > help > > due > > > to emotional exhaustion. > > > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have a > > few > > > with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus > > > combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of > > > confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12. > > > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular > > > problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of > course > > > other factors need to be addressed also.... > > > > best wishes > > > > M > > > > - > > > > Oliver Fallon > > > > > > > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM > > > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > Mithuna > > > lagna > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > > > > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it is > > > exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this mitigate > > its > > > effects? > > > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th > > > houses owned by these planets? > > > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career? > > > > > > > > I am thinking of a specific chart: > > > > > > > > Name: Felix > > > > Place of birth: London UK > > > > Time: 01.32am > > > > 07 August 1998 > > > > > > > > With thanks for your help, > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Dear Oliver, Thanks for your feedback about the child. Yes, Mars dasha starts in Jan 2010 as per Lahiri Ayanamsha. As per Sri Yukteshwar's Ayanamsha, Mars MD starts on 16 June 2009. Kindly do keep us posted about further developments in his life. I feel he IS a special child and could become a great artist or thinker/writer. Regards Neelam 2009/6/10 Ravindramani CS <ravindramani > > > The 6th house is diseases. 6th from 6th, the 11th house, as per bhavat > bhavam, should possess the element of disease. The 11th house acts as > disease to disease and enemies to enemies. > > Saturn in 11th and aspects lagna. Indication is chronic diseases. 11th > house is recovery. As per the nature of Saturn, there is chronic disease, > and recovery in a snail's pace. > > c.s.r. mani > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_nair<astrologervishy_nair%40.co.in> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr. Mani > > > > 6th from 6th concept may be wrong. It is used only in Vedic as per bhavat > > bhavam. > > But 11th signifies recovery. Saturn is slow and nagging. > > > > Rgds > > Viswanath > > > > ________________________________ > > Ravindramani CS <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com><ravindramani% > 40gmail.com>> > > > <%40><% > 40> > > Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:48:08 PM > > Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > Mithuna lagna > > > > Dear Viswanath, > > > > 11th is the 6th from 6th. Saturn's position certainly indicates the > > recovery in a slow phase. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) > > co.in>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, but Saturn's position helps. > > > > > > Viswanath > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ gmail.com <ravindramani% > > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:41:37 PM > > > Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > Saturn holds the 8th house of chronic diseases and his nature as such > it > > is > > > of longer spells. > > > > > > CSR Mani > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) > > > co.in>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Oliver Fallon > > > > > > > > Gemini is an airy sign. > > > > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5. > > > > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc. > > > > Hence 6th and Asc are connected. > > > > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn. > > > > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu. > > > > Jupiter will contribute to mucus. > > > > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to > Lungs, > > > > since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs. > > > > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord > of > > > 5th. > > > > > > > > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should > take > > > > homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments. > > > > > > > > Homoepathy should help. > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Oliver Fallon <opfallon <opfallon%40. com>> > > > > <% 40. > com> > > > > > > > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > Mithuna > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > In the chart originally under discussion: > > > > > > > > > Name: Felix > > > > > Place of birth: London UK > > > > > Time: 01.32am > > > > > 07 August 1998 > > > > > > > > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest > > > infections. > > > > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect > > of > > > > Venus in this chart? > > > > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate > > thread. > > > > With thanks, > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > > > > > > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects > > from > > > > the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider > some > > of > > > > the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has > > > > kendradhipatya dosha. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the details of the other case. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Marg <margie9 > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM > > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Krisnamurthy > > > > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna > Gemini...... > > > > ..allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect > that > > > with > > > > Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, > though > > in > > > > your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must > be > > > > terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc? > > > > > > > > > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic > > > > aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and > > > Saturn > > > > in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was > in > > > > fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn > in > > > > seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits > > > during > > > > Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but > I > > > > estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus > rising. > > > > > best wishes > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM > > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > > > > > > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too > has > > > > frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. > > Some > > > > skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in > lagna > > > > definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in > > the > > > > Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by > > Mars. > > > > Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM > > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > Dear Oliver > > > > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with > Mars > > in > > > > Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it > would > > > be > > > > health problems standing in the way of their progress in life. > > > > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a > client > > of > > > > mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who > try > > to > > > > over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease > lupus > > > and > > > > is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown > > due > > > to > > > > poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed > > help > > > due > > > > to emotional exhaustion. > > > > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have > a > > > few > > > > with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus > > > > combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of > > > > confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12. > > > > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular > > > > problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of > > course > > > > other factors need to be addressed also.... > > > > > best wishes > > > > > M > > > > > - > > > > > Oliver Fallon > > > > > > > > > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM > > > > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > Mithuna > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > > > > > > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it > is > > > > exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this > mitigate > > > its > > > > effects? > > > > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th > > > > houses owned by these planets? > > > > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career? > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking of a specific chart: > > > > > > > > > > Name: Felix > > > > > Place of birth: London UK > > > > > Time: 01.32am > > > > > 07 August 1998 > > > > > > > > > > With thanks for your help, > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread. I will keep you informed of any developments. Oliver , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Oliver, > > Thanks for your feedback about the child. > Yes, Mars dasha starts in Jan 2010 as per Lahiri Ayanamsha. > As per Sri Yukteshwar's Ayanamsha, Mars MD starts on 16 June 2009. > > Kindly do keep us posted about further developments in his life. > I feel he IS a special child and could become a great artist or > thinker/writer. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/6/10 Ravindramani CS <ravindramani > > > > > > > The 6th house is diseases. 6th from 6th, the 11th house, as per bhavat > > bhavam, should possess the element of disease. The 11th house acts as > > disease to disease and enemies to enemies. > > > > Saturn in 11th and aspects lagna. Indication is chronic diseases. 11th > > house is recovery. As per the nature of Saturn, there is chronic disease, > > and recovery in a snail's pace. > > > > c.s.r. mani > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_nair<astrologervishy_nair%40.co.in> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Mani > > > > > > 6th from 6th concept may be wrong. It is used only in Vedic as per bhavat > > > bhavam. > > > But 11th signifies recovery. Saturn is slow and nagging. > > > > > > Rgds > > > Viswanath > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Ravindramani CS <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com><ravindramani% > > 40gmail.com>> > > > > > <%40><% > > 40> > > > Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:48:08 PM > > > Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > Dear Viswanath, > > > > > > 11th is the 6th from 6th. Saturn's position certainly indicates the > > > recovery in a slow phase. > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) > > > co.in>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, but Saturn's position helps. > > > > > > > > Viswanath > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ gmail.com <ravindramani% > > > 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 12:41:37 PM > > > > Re: Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > Saturn holds the 8th house of chronic diseases and his nature as such > > it > > > is > > > > of longer spells. > > > > > > > > CSR Mani > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) > > > > co.in>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Oliver Fallon > > > > > > > > > > Gemini is an airy sign. > > > > > Mars is lord of 6 and Venus is lord of 12 and 5. > > > > > Occupant is stronger. Mars and Venus in Asc. > > > > > Hence 6th and Asc are connected. > > > > > Mars, Venus and Asc gets aspect of Saturn. > > > > > Saturn and Mercury(Asc lord) are connected through Ketu. > > > > > Jupiter will contribute to mucus. > > > > > Lungs are signified by Mercury. Airy sign will get connected to > > Lungs, > > > > > since air is being inhaled and exhaled through lungs. > > > > > Luckily Saturn is in 11th. There is no planet in 5th. Venus is lord > > of > > > > 5th. > > > > > > > > > > Since Saturn is connected, it will be long lasting. Native should > > take > > > > > homeopathy medicines and avoid exposing to allergic environments. > > > > > > > > > > Homoepathy should help. > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Oliver Fallon <opfallon <opfallon%40. com>> > > > > > <% 40. > > com> > > > > > > > > > Monday, 8 June, 2009 2:15:22 PM > > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > Mithuna > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > In the chart originally under discussion: > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Felix > > > > > > Place of birth: London UK > > > > > > Time: 01.32am > > > > > > 07 August 1998 > > > > > > > > > > the native does suffer mild asthma and frequent colds and chest > > > > infections. > > > > > If you will indulge me, I will press the question: What is the effect > > > of > > > > > Venus in this chart? > > > > > I will give details of a native suffering epilepsy in a separate > > > thread. > > > > > With thanks, > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, there no benefic aspects on the Asc. Only Saturn aspects > > > from > > > > > the 4th. As Jupiter is closely conjunct Jupiter, one may consider > > some > > > of > > > > > the energies of the Jupiter reaching the Asc. However, Jupiter has > > > > > kendradhipatya dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the details of the other case. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Marg <margie9@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 4:04:11 PM > > > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Krisnamurthy > > > > > > Thanks for this account of the results of Mars in Lagna > > Gemini...... > > > > > ..allergies can severely spoil enjoyment of life and yes I expect > > that > > > > with > > > > > Mars in Mercury sign ---Gemini-- the lungs are also vulnerable, > > though > > > in > > > > > your client's case two malefic aspects from both Mars and Venus must > > be > > > > > terrifically debilitating. Is there no benefic aspect on the asc? > > > > > > > > > > > > Just extending the nature of the depth of debilitation two malefic > > > > > aspects can cause, I recently came across a chart where both Mars and > > > > Saturn > > > > > in kendra aspected both Mercury and Moon also in kendra....Moon was > > in > > > > > fourth with Jupiter, mer in asc, while Mars was in tenth and Saturn > > in > > > > > seventh with Rahu-----the lady has just started with epileptic fits > > > > during > > > > > Rahu Sat dasa...she's a bit vague about the exact month of onset, but > > I > > > > > estimate it would be around the PD of L6 Venus, she has Taurus > > rising. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:57 AM > > > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Marg, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have one chart of Gemini lagna with Mars in it. This native too > > has > > > > > frequent health problems. Allergies cause colds every now and then. > > > Some > > > > > skin related issues. Also, recently diagnosed for TB. 6L Mars in > > lagna > > > > > definitely brings out the health problems. All these are happening in > > > the > > > > > Jup period which would end soon. Jupiter is in the 4th aspected by > > > Mars. > > > > > Jupiter is also closely conjunct Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 7 June, 2009 2:17:30 PM > > > > > > Re: Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > > > Mithuna lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Oliver > > > > > > I quickly ran a search of all my charts and found only two with > > Mars > > > in > > > > > Gemini asc. If I am to say what affects both these individuals it > > would > > > > be > > > > > health problems standing in the way of their progress in life. > > > > > > Susan Boyle the singer has Gemini asc, with mars in asc and a > > client > > > of > > > > > mine has the same, and I would say both are very nervous types who > > try > > > to > > > > > over excel their own capabilities. My client Ev, has the disease > > lupus > > > > and > > > > > is a very nervous individual, she also has periods of near breakdown > > > due > > > > to > > > > > poor use of her own life force.....Susan Boyle also recently needed > > > help > > > > due > > > > > to emotional exhaustion. > > > > > > I don't have any chart with Mars/ Venus in Gemini asc, ( I do have > > a > > > > few > > > > > with the combi in other houses though) but I would expect that Venus > > > > > combining with mars in Gem would serve to only add to more lack of > > > > > confidence and give shyness and secretiveness, due to her being L12. > > > > > > I would also predict that the boy is in danger of having testicular > > > > > problems at some stage in life due to Mars aspect on Venus, but of > > > course > > > > > other factors need to be addressed also.... > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > M > > > > > > - > > > > > > Oliver Fallon > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, June 05, 2009 11:05 AM > > > > > > Very strong Shukra conjunct Mangala in > > > Mithuna > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that Mangala is very malefic for Mithuna lagna. If it > > is > > > > > exactly conjunct in lagna with a very strong Shukra, does this > > mitigate > > > > its > > > > > effects? > > > > > > Also what would be the effect on Lagna, and 5th, 6th, 11th and 12th > > > > > houses owned by these planets? > > > > > > Does this combination clearly indicate a career? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking of a specific chart: > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Felix > > > > > > Place of birth: London UK > > > > > > Time: 01.32am > > > > > > 07 August 1998 > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks for your help, > > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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