Article modified after prediction failed on website - Ethics of Astrologers

[Guest guest]

Namaste Mr.Sharma and respected members

 

It will be decent enough, if the concerned astrologer and others who have been

engaging in such acts, could refrain from repeating similar acts in the future.

 

It is true that none of us are perfect and as human beings are within the realms

of limitations.

 

However it is Lord's kindness that, we have been bestowed with a few drops of

divine wisdom (which knowledge of astrology definitely is).Are we also expected

to maintain and uphold some basic ethical standards in return?. It may be worth

contemplating.

 

The moment we start to consider astrology as a commodity/product our focus takes

a diffrent route, without our notice.Attracting more customers needs marketing.

Market has different sets of rules altogether. Obviously jyotish principles and

ethics will be sidelined by the power of ''artha''.

 

One may not be against any group or organization that conducts conferences,

workshops, publishing papers, lectures etc. If done with the right intention ,

it will only serve the good cause of astrology.

 

However in reality this has not been the case always. Astrologer is mainly

interested in ''selling''.

 

If i try to sell the ''simple'' but deep rooted and sound astrological

principles will i find any customers ? No.

 

However if i can offer colourful, complex and ''secret'' principles, no matter

how far i go in violating fundamental principles,i could always find a long

queue. But how long can i sustain ?

 

This ''market'' factor and eagerness is the root cause, which has resulted in

the stooping of many astrologers , who are otherwise blessed. It inadvertently

inflates our ''creativity''.Sadhana and tapas gives way.

 

We may note that fundamentals are simple but sound.

 

We do not have to market, paint, wrap or decorate astrology. We may Share and

learn astrology as it is.There is nothing to invent. There is a lot to

discover.Enough substance for Janmantaras.

 

As a side note ,it is also very sad to see how people are running own lists,

just for the purpose of humiliating others. One should understand that, the ones

who are trying to correct us, are the ones who loves us.Humiliating them will be

of no help for anyone. Only the grace of a true and Sad Guru can show us light

and save from such ignorances.

 

Regards

Pradeep

 

 

 

, " M. Sharma " <nakshatras wrote:

>

>

> Folks

>

> Every once is a while, I sniff out the so called famous astrologers who

> want to grow by marketing some bullshit predictions on websites.

> Earlier, couple years back, I sniffed out an astrloger who was using

> chat sessions and was solving puzzles and taking credit for it on an

> another astrology list. The so called astrologer asked somebody in

> distress to post a quiz on an astrology list about an event. Later on of

> course this so called astologer went and solved the puzzle to

> perfection. This was done to gain traction and recognition. An entire

> organization defended this dude, but finally truth came out...What a

> joke...

>

> Here I am referring to so called famous astrologers who predict events

> -retract/modifiy/delete some contents after the prediction fails. So

> much for " Truth " . I am referring to www.sathyaprema.com

> <http://www.sathyaprema.com> . See the article before and after June

> 9th, 2009. The article contents conveniently got modified, keeping the

> time stamp same. Where is " truth " " or " Sathya " in this. Why can't

> somebody be honest? Oh-I forgot we are living in Kali Yuga. It is a

> shame and a black mark to these so called honest astrologers. I think

> astrology as a business should be banned in India. These guys are miking

> people and cheating their own morals and ethics shamelessly. See the

> changes for yourself. I am sure this article will either the article

> will get deleted from the web-site, or modified or in the final game, a

> prediction will be made. After the prediction comes true, the article

> might get posted. Fake people... (Astrologers - make note -people are

> watching! You cannot fool everybody all the time)

>

> Article before modification.

>

> 29th MAY,2009 3:35 PM

>

> The world is eagerly is waiting the start of t 20 world cup. The

> question is who will win

>

> t 20 cup. Let us reverse the trend and ask who will not win the t 20

> world cup that will

>

> give a fair idea.

>

> The following teams will qualify for the super eight.

>

> group A- Bangaldesh and india,

>

> group B- pakistan and England,

>

> group C- Australia and Srilanka

>

> group D- South Africa and New Zealand

>

> But Netherlands, Scotland, Bangladesh, Ireland and England will not win

> the T-20

>

> world cup finals surely.

>

>

>

> Article after modification

>

> 29th MAY,2009 3:35 PM

>

> The world is eagerly is waiting the start of t 20 world cup. The

> question is who will win

>

> t 20 cup. Let us reverse the trend and ask who will not win the t 20

> world cup that will

>

> give a fair idea.

>

> But Netherlands, Scotland, Bangladesh, Ireland and England will not win

> the T-20

>

> world cup finals surely.

>

>

>

> Manjunath Sharma

>

> June 9, 2009

>

> (10:14am EDT)

>

> USA

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Sharma Ji and Vijay Das Preaddep ji

 

I have also noticed that the articles on the website www.sathyaprema.com always

gets modified. This is not the first chaance even in past so many times I have

noticed it.

Everbody will come to know the name of astrologer through website.

 

I am really surprised if a person is so cunning and having such morality how he

can be a good astrologer or " Tri Kaal Darshi " . Every person can commit mistake.

But he should have the courage to accept it and rectify his knowledge. Nobody

can be perfect.

If they don't understand this simple thing they must leave astrology and

preaching people.

 

Such astrologers should be exposed and people should refrain from consulting

them.

 

Thanks & reagrds,

Anoop.

 

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

 

 

vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

Re: Article modified after prediction failed on website

- Ethics of Astrologers

 

Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:57 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Mr.Sharma and respected members

 

It will be decent enough, if the concerned astrologer and others who have been

engaging in such acts, could refrain from repeating similar acts in the future.

 

It is true that none of us are perfect and as human beings are within the realms

of limitations.

 

However it is Lord's kindness that, we have been bestowed with a few drops of

divine wisdom (which knowledge of astrology definitely is).Are we also expected

to maintain and uphold some basic ethical standards in return?. It may be worth

contemplating.

 

The moment we start to consider astrology as a commodity/product our focus takes

a diffrent route, without our notice.Attracting more customers needs marketing.

Market has different sets of rules altogether. Obviously jyotish principles and

ethics will be sidelined by the power of ''artha''.

 

One may not be against any group or organization that conducts conferences,

workshops, publishing papers, lectures etc. If done with the right intention ,

it will only serve the good cause of astrology.

 

However in reality this has not been the case always. Astrologer is mainly

interested in ''selling''.

 

If i try to sell the ''simple'' but deep rooted and sound astrological

principles will i find any customers ? No.

 

However if i can offer colourful, complex and ''secret'' principles, no matter

how far i go in violating fundamental principles,i could always find a long

queue. But how long can i sustain ?

 

This ''market'' factor and eagerness is the root cause, which has resulted in

the stooping of many astrologers , who are otherwise blessed. It inadvertently

inflates our ''creativity' '.Sadhana and tapas gives way.

 

We may note that fundamentals are simple but sound.

 

We do not have to market, paint, wrap or decorate astrology. We may Share and

learn astrology as it is.There is nothing to invent. There is a lot to

discover.Enough substance for Janmantaras.

 

As a side note ,it is also very sad to see how people are running own lists,

just for the purpose of humiliating others. One should understand that, the ones

who are trying to correct us, are the ones who loves us.Humiliating them will be

of no help for anyone. Only the grace of a true and Sad Guru can show us light

and save from such ignorances.

 

Regards

Pradeep

 

, " M. Sharma " <nakshatras@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Folks

>

> Every once is a while, I sniff out the so called famous astrologers who

> want to grow by marketing some bullshit predictions on websites.

> Earlier, couple years back, I sniffed out an astrloger who was using

> chat sessions and was solving puzzles and taking credit for it on an

> another astrology list. The so called astrologer asked somebody in

> distress to post a quiz on an astrology list about an event. Later on of

> course this so called astologer went and solved the puzzle to

> perfection. This was done to gain traction and recognition. An entire

> organization defended this dude, but finally truth came out...What a

> joke...

>

> Here I am referring to so called famous astrologers who predict events

> -retract/modifiy/ delete some contents after the prediction fails. So

> much for " Truth " . I am referring to www.sathyaprema. com

> <http://www.sathyapr ema.com> . See the article before and after June

> 9th, 2009. The article contents conveniently got modified, keeping the

> time stamp same. Where is " truth " " or " Sathya " in this. Why can't

> somebody be honest? Oh-I forgot we are living in Kali Yuga. It is a

> shame and a black mark to these so called honest astrologers. I think

> astrology as a business should be banned in India. These guys are miking

> people and cheating their own morals and ethics shamelessly. See the

> changes for yourself. I am sure this article will either the article

> will get deleted from the web-site, or modified or in the final game, a

> prediction will be made. After the prediction comes true, the article

> might get posted. Fake people... (Astrologers - make note -people are

> watching! You cannot fool everybody all the time)

>

> Article before modification.

>

> 29th MAY,2009 3:35 PM

>

> The world is eagerly is waiting the start of t 20 world cup. The

> question is who will win

>

> t 20 cup. Let us reverse the trend and ask who will not win the t 20

> world cup that will

>

> give a fair idea.

>

> The following teams will qualify for the super eight.

>

> group A- Bangaldesh and india,

>

> group B- pakistan and England,

>

> group C- Australia and Srilanka

>

> group D- South Africa and New Zealand

>

> But Netherlands, Scotland, Bangladesh, Ireland and England will not win

> the T-20

>

> world cup finals surely.

>

>

>

> Article after modification

>

> 29th MAY,2009 3:35 PM

>

> The world is eagerly is waiting the start of t 20 world cup. The

> question is who will win

>

> t 20 cup. Let us reverse the trend and ask who will not win the t 20

> world cup that will

>

> give a fair idea.

>

> But Netherlands, Scotland, Bangladesh, Ireland and England will not win

> the T-20

>

> world cup finals surely.

>

>

>

> Manjunath Sharma

>

> June 9, 2009

>

> (10:14am EDT)

>

> USA

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anoop Singh-ji

There is a big difference between a prediction (using astrology, or using some

other predictive tecniques) going wrong and pro-actively modifying predictions

on websites, solving fake puzzles on jyotish lists conveniently.

 

Whenever a person gets away from one such incident - that person assumes that

nobody is watching and gets even more bolder (to change predictions and solve

puzzles). But eventually people will figure out the pattern of behavior that

tries to hide truth.

 

Lot more of these people exist and will milk people in the name of jyotisha..

 

, anoop singh <aks_anoop wrote:

>

> Respected Sharma Ji and Vijay Das Preaddep ji

>  

> I have also noticed that the articles on the website www.sathyaprema.com

always gets modified. This is not the first chaance even in past so many times I

have noticed it.

> Everbody will come to know the name of astrologer through website.

>  

> I am really surprised if a person is so cunning and having such morality how

he can be a good astrologer or " Tri Kaal Darshi " . Every person can commit

mistake. But he should have the courage to accept it and rectify his knowledge.

Nobody can be perfect.

> If they don't understand this simple thing they must leave astrology and

preaching people.

>  

> Such astrologers should be exposed and people should refrain from consulting

them.

>  

> Thanks & reagrds,

> Anoop.

>

> --- On Wed, 6/10/09, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

>

> vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

> Re: Article modified after prediction failed on

website - Ethics of Astrologers

>

> Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:57 AM

>

>

Namaste Mr.Sharma and respected members

>

> It will be decent enough, if the concerned astrologer and others who have been

engaging in such acts, could refrain from repeating similar acts in the future.

>

> It is true that none of us are perfect and as human beings are within the

realms of limitations.

>

> However it is Lord's kindness that, we have been bestowed with a few drops of

divine wisdom (which knowledge of astrology definitely is).Are we also expected

to maintain and uphold some basic ethical standards in return?. It may be worth

contemplating.

>

> The moment we start to consider astrology as a commodity/product our focus

takes a diffrent route, without our notice.Attracting more customers needs

marketing. Market has different sets of rules altogether. Obviously jyotish

principles and ethics will be sidelined by the power of ''artha''.

>

> One may not be against any group or organization that conducts conferences,

workshops, publishing papers, lectures etc. If done with the right intention ,

it will only serve the good cause of astrology.

>

> However in reality this has not been the case always. Astrologer is mainly

interested in ''selling''.

>

> If i try to sell the ''simple'' but deep rooted and sound astrological

principles will i find any customers ? No.

>

> However if i can offer colourful, complex and ''secret'' principles, no matter

how far i go in violating fundamental principles,i could always find a long

queue. But how long can i sustain ?

>

> This ''market'' factor and eagerness is the root cause, which has resulted in

the stooping of many astrologers , who are otherwise blessed. It inadvertently

inflates our ''creativity' '.Sadhana and tapas gives way.

>

> We may note that fundamentals are simple but sound.

>

> We do not have to market, paint, wrap or decorate astrology. We may Share and

learn astrology as it is.There is nothing to invent. There is a lot to

discover.Enough substance for Janmantaras.

>

> As a side note ,it is also very sad to see how people are running own lists,

just for the purpose of humiliating others. One should understand that, the ones

who are trying to correct us, are the ones who loves us.Humiliating them will be

of no help for anyone. Only the grace of a true and Sad Guru can show us light

and save from such ignorances.

>

> Regards

> Pradeep

>

> , " M. Sharma " <nakshatras@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Folks

> >

> > Every once is a while, I sniff out the so called famous astrologers who

> > want to grow by marketing some bullshit predictions on websites.

> > Earlier, couple years back, I sniffed out an astrloger who was using

> > chat sessions and was solving puzzles and taking credit for it on an

> > another astrology list. The so called astrologer asked somebody in

> > distress to post a quiz on an astrology list about an event. Later on of

> > course this so called astologer went and solved the puzzle to

> > perfection. This was done to gain traction and recognition. An entire

> > organization defended this dude, but finally truth came out...What a

> > joke...

> >

> > Here I am referring to so called famous astrologers who predict events

> > -retract/modifiy/ delete some contents after the prediction fails. So

> > much for " Truth " . I am referring to www.sathyaprema. com

> > <http://www.sathyapr ema.com> . See the article before and after June

> > 9th, 2009. The article contents conveniently got modified, keeping the

> > time stamp same. Where is " truth " " or " Sathya " in this. Why can't

> > somebody be honest? Oh-I forgot we are living in Kali Yuga. It is a

> > shame and a black mark to these so called honest astrologers. I think

> > astrology as a business should be banned in India. These guys are miking

> > people and cheating their own morals and ethics shamelessly. See the

> > changes for yourself. I am sure this article will either the article

> > will get deleted from the web-site, or modified or in the final game, a

> > prediction will be made. After the prediction comes true, the article

> > might get posted. Fake people... (Astrologers - make note -people are

> > watching! You cannot fool everybody all the time)

> >

> > Article before modification.

> >

> > 29th MAY,2009 3:35 PM

> >

> > The world is eagerly is waiting the start of t 20 world cup. The

> > question is who will win

> >

> > t 20 cup. Let us reverse the trend and ask who will not win the t 20

> > world cup that will

> >

> > give a fair idea.

> >

> > The following teams will qualify for the super eight.

> >

> > group A- Bangaldesh and india,

> >

> > group B- pakistan and England,

> >

> > group C- Australia and Srilanka

> >

> > group D- South Africa and New Zealand

> >

> > But Netherlands, Scotland, Bangladesh, Ireland and England will not win

> > the T-20

> >

> > world cup finals surely.

> >

> >

> >

> > Article after modification

> >

> > 29th MAY,2009 3:35 PM

> >

> > The world is eagerly is waiting the start of t 20 world cup. The

> > question is who will win

> >

> > t 20 cup. Let us reverse the trend and ask who will not win the t 20

> > world cup that will

> >

> > give a fair idea.

> >

> > But Netherlands, Scotland, Bangladesh, Ireland and England will not win

> > the T-20

> >

> > world cup finals surely.

> >

> >

> >

> > Manjunath Sharma

> >

> > June 9, 2009

> >

> > (10:14am EDT)

> >

> > USA

> >

> >

> >

> >