Fw: [Abhinavagupta] Rashi in Vedic literature, the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

[Guest guest]

--- On Sun, 6/14/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

 

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

Re: [Abhinavagupta] Rashi in Vedic literature, the Relevant Chronology

and the Sidereal

Abhinavagupta

Sunday, June 14, 2009, 7:19 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List members,

 

Not only I gave the dates, I also gave the bases of the dates such as the start

of the traditional Saptarshi calendar and mentioned that with this one can

arrive at the date of the Mahabharata war without taking recourse to the 

astronomical dating. I also mentioned about the difference between the Sakendra

kala and the Saka kala, which one has to find the correct date of Varahamihira.

 

If Mr. A.K.Kaul has other dates then let him open up and spell out his dates and

justify his dates with incontrovertible proofs in support of those.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

[Response to Avtar's post (13 June 2009) at

 

Abhinavagupta/message/5148]

 

 ---------------

Dear list members,

 

Namaskar!

 

Shri Sunil Bhattacharjya has given the following dates for certain works of

ancient India, in his #5117 of June 8, 2009 of this (Abhinavagupta) forum:

 

1. Rashis in Veda (antiquity = circa 7000 BCE

 

2. Brahma Rashi in Mahabharata (antiquity = circa 3139 BCE).

 

3. Rashi in Bhagavata Purana (antiquity = circa 3042 BCE)

 

4. Rashi in Vedanga Jyotisha (antiquity = circa 2400 BCE to 1800 BCE

 

5. Date of Aryabhatta (1325 BCE). He wrote Aryasiddhanta.

 

6. Date of Varahamihira (124 BCE).

 

7. Sakanta-kala (which starts from 551 BCE) and not Saka- kala (which starts

from 78 CE).

 

8. Laukika or Saptarshi calendar, which started from 3077 BCE (ie. 25 years

aftyer the start of the Kali yuga in 3102 BCE).

 

 

 

There is a post pending for reply from one of the members of the list, in which

he had questioned my fixing the date of VJ as 1400 BCE, the RV as 4000 BCE etc.

and the MBh even 1400 to 400 BCE.

 

I would request Shri Bhattcharjya to give incontrovertible proofs in support of

his presumptions of the above dates, since they are much earlier even to the

ones presumed by me.

 

With regards,

 

A K Kaul

 

[Response to Sunil's post (10 June 2009) at

 

Abhinavagupta/message/5117]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

--- On Sun, 6/14/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

 

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

Re: [Abhinavagupta] Rashi in Vedic literature, the Relevant Chronology

and the Sidereal

Abhinavagupta

Sunday, June 14, 2009, 7:19 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List members,

 

Not only I gave the dates, I also gave the bases of the dates such as the start

of the traditional Saptarshi calendar and mentioned that with this one can

arrive at the date of the Mahabharata war without taking recourse to the 

astronomical dating. I also mentioned about the difference between the Sakendra

kala and the Saka kala, which one has to find the correct date of Varahamihira.

 

If Mr. A.K.Kaul has other dates then let him open up and spell out his dates and

justify his dates with incontrovertible proofs in support of those.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

[Response to Avtar's post (13 June 2009) at

 

Abhinavagupta/message/5148]

 

 ---------------

Dear list members,

 

Namaskar!

 

Shri Sunil Bhattacharjya has given the following dates for certain works of

ancient India, in his #5117 of June 8, 2009 of this (Abhinavagupta) forum:

 

1. Rashis in Veda (antiquity = circa 7000 BCE

 

2. Brahma Rashi in Mahabharata (antiquity = circa 3139 BCE).

 

3. Rashi in Bhagavata Purana (antiquity = circa 3042 BCE)

 

4. Rashi in Vedanga Jyotisha (antiquity = circa 2400 BCE to 1800 BCE

 

5. Date of Aryabhatta (1325 BCE). He wrote Aryasiddhanta.

 

6. Date of Varahamihira (124 BCE).

 

7. Sakanta-kala (which starts from 551 BCE) and not Saka- kala (which starts

from 78 CE).

 

8. Laukika or Saptarshi calendar, which started from 3077 BCE (ie. 25 years

aftyer the start of the Kali yuga in 3102 BCE).

 

 

 

There is a post pending for reply from one of the members of the list, in which

he had questioned my fixing the date of VJ as 1400 BCE, the RV as 4000 BCE etc.

and the MBh even 1400 to 400 BCE.

 

I would request Shri Bhattcharjya to give incontrovertible proofs in support of

his presumptions of the above dates, since they are much earlier even to the

ones presumed by me.

 

With regards,

 

A K Kaul

 

[Response to Sunil's post (10 June 2009) at

 

Abhinavagupta/message/5117]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

You have again choosen wrong path to endorse your claim

 

Saptarishi calendar has some basic fault in calculating dates

 

when Dhruva star is not pole star always(means no star is fixed at north pole)

than how saptarishi will move around that point

 

you are again defeated

 

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

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>

>

> --- On Sun, 6/14/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

>

> Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

> Re: [Abhinavagupta] Rashi in Vedic literature, the Relevant

Chronology and the Sidereal

> Abhinavagupta

> Sunday, June 14, 2009, 7:19 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

Dear List members,

> ?

> Not only I gave?the?dates, I also gave the bases of the dates such as the

start of the traditional Saptarshi calendar and mentioned that with this one can

arrive at the date of the Mahabharata war without taking recourse to?the?

astronomical dating.?I also mentioned about the difference between the Sakendra

kala and the Saka kala, which one has to find the correct date of Varahamihira.

> ?

> If Mr. A.K.Kaul has other dates then let him open up and spell out his dates

and justify his dates with incontrovertible proofs in support of?those.

> ?

> Regards,

> ?

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> ?

> [Response to Avtar's post (13 June 2009) at

>

> Abhinavagupta/message/5148]

> ?

> ?---------------

> Dear list members,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Shri Sunil Bhattacharjya has given the following dates for certain works of

> ancient India, in his #5117 of June 8, 2009 of this (Abhinavagupta) forum:

>

> 1. Rashis in Veda (antiquity = circa 7000 BCE

>

> 2. Brahma Rashi in Mahabharata (antiquity = circa 3139 BCE).

>

> 3. Rashi in Bhagavata Purana (antiquity = circa 3042 BCE)

>

> 4. Rashi in Vedanga Jyotisha (antiquity = circa 2400 BCE to 1800 BCE

>

> 5. Date of Aryabhatta (1325 BCE). He wrote Aryasiddhanta.

>

> 6. Date of Varahamihira (124 BCE).

>

> 7. Sakanta-kala (which starts from 551 BCE) and not Saka- kala (which starts

> from 78 CE).

>

> 8. Laukika or Saptarshi calendar, which started from 3077 BCE (ie. 25 years

> aftyer the start of the Kali yuga in 3102 BCE).

>

>

>

> There is a post pending for reply from one of the members of the list, in

which

> he had questioned my fixing the date of VJ as 1400 BCE, the RV as 4000 BCE

etc.

> and the MBh even 1400 to 400 BCE.

>

> I would request Shri Bhattcharjya to give incontrovertible proofs in support

of

> his presumptions of the above dates, since they are much earlier even to the

> ones presumed by me.

>

> With regards,

>

> A K Kaul

>

> [Response to Sunil's post (10 June 2009) at

>

> Abhinavagupta/message/5117]

> ?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shri Ramveer Singhji,

 

I have to counter another false statement from you. Read the paper on the

Saptarshis by the Astrophysicist Dr. Mayank Vahia and his collaborators from

the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research in Mumbai, where he tells about

the movement of the Pole stars and the apparent movement of the Saptarshis.

 

Please read more before writing.

 

Sincerely,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, singh_ramveer <singh_ramveer wrote:

 

 

singh_ramveer <singh_ramveer

Fw: Re: [Abhinavagupta] Rashi in Vedic literature, the

Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

 

Monday, June 15, 2009, 12:43 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You have again choosen wrong path to endorse your claim

 

Saptarishi calendar has some basic fault in calculating dates

 

when Dhruva star is not pole star always(means no star is fixed at north pole)

than how saptarishi will move around that point

 

you are again defeated

 

, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy

a wrote:

>

>

>

> --- On Sun, 6/14/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote:

>

>

> Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a

> Re: [Abhinavagupta] Rashi in Vedic literature, the Relevant

Chronology and the Sidereal

> Abhinavagupta

> Sunday, June 14, 2009, 7:19 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

Dear List members,

> ?

> Not only I gave?the?dates, I also gave the bases of the dates such as the

start of the traditional Saptarshi calendar and mentioned that with this one can

arrive at the date of the Mahabharata war without taking recourse to?the?

astronomical dating.?I also mentioned about the difference between the Sakendra

kala and the Saka kala, which one has to find the correct date of Varahamihira.

> ?

> If Mr. A.K.Kaul has other dates then let him open up and spell out his dates

and justify his dates with incontrovertible proofs in support of?those.

> ?

> Regards,

> ?

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> ?

> [Response to Avtar's post (13 June 2009) at

>

> http://groups. / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5148]

> ?

> ?----------- ----

> Dear list members,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Shri Sunil Bhattacharjya has given the following dates for certain works of

> ancient India, in his #5117 of June 8, 2009 of this (Abhinavagupta) forum:

>

> 1. Rashis in Veda (antiquity = circa 7000 BCE

>

> 2. Brahma Rashi in Mahabharata (antiquity = circa 3139 BCE).

>

> 3. Rashi in Bhagavata Purana (antiquity = circa 3042 BCE)

>

> 4. Rashi in Vedanga Jyotisha (antiquity = circa 2400 BCE to 1800 BCE

>

> 5. Date of Aryabhatta (1325 BCE). He wrote Aryasiddhanta.

>

> 6. Date of Varahamihira (124 BCE).

>

> 7. Sakanta-kala (which starts from 551 BCE) and not Saka- kala (which starts

> from 78 CE).

>

> 8. Laukika or Saptarshi calendar, which started from 3077 BCE (ie. 25 years

> aftyer the start of the Kali yuga in 3102 BCE).

>

>

>

> There is a post pending for reply from one of the members of the list, in

which

> he had questioned my fixing the date of VJ as 1400 BCE, the RV as 4000 BCE

etc.

> and the MBh even 1400 to 400 BCE.

>

> I would request Shri Bhattcharjya to give incontrovertible proofs in support

of

> his presumptions of the above dates, since they are much earlier even to the

> ones presumed by me.

>

> With regards,

>

> A K Kaul

>

> [Response to Sunil's post (10 June 2009) at

>

> http://groups. / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5117]

> ?

>

>

>

>

>

>