Fwd: Re:Rashi in Vedic literature, the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

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Ramveer Singhji,

 

If you have guts please tell us why  are you telling a lie? I have already

replied to Avinash Sathaye's mail. It is message No. 2842 of the WAVES-Vedic

group. You can check it in the mails of that group if you are a member of that

group or ask Avinash Sathaye. Next time please check before accusing anybody.

 

As regards the Hinducivilization group I am not a member of that group. If you

specifically want to see my replies in that group then please ask Kalyanaramanji

to send me an invitation.

 

Sincerely,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, singh_ramveer <singh_ramveer wrote:

 

 

singh_ramveer <singh_ramveer

Fwd: Re:Rashi in Vedic literature, the Relevant

Chronology and the Sidereal

Jyotishgroup

Monday, June 15, 2009, 12:34 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everybody please read guts of Sunil Bhattacharjya

 

Those verses had been produced by him and third person refuted it

 

But he will keep on saying that he had provided those verses where Rashi were

mentioned

 

he doesnt forward those mails where he get answers

 

hinducivilization, " jyotirved . " <jyotirved@. ..>

wrote:

 

WAVES-Vedic, Avinash Sathaye <sohum@> wrote:

 

I was happy to see more details from Sunil K. Bhattacharjya.

However, I still see many problems with the claim of Rashis in the Veda.

Here are my observations:

 

SB said:

/A) Rashi in Veda

 

1)

Rarshis are mentioned in the Veda. Rig Veda (RV) mentions Vrshabha (RV

6.47.5; 8.93.1),

/

*In 6.47.5 vRRiShabha is used as an adjective of Soma. sAyaNa explains

it as " vRRiSheTirjanayitA " - creator of rains, since offering of Soma

leads to rains!

Could we have a parokSha explanation of the whole verse please!!

I have already given 8.93.1 in detail. My request to get a parokSha

explanation of it is still not resolved.

 

*SB further said:

/Mithun (RV 3.39.3), Simha (RV 5.83.7; 9.89.3) and Kanya (RV 6.49.7)./

*

Of these, I quickly checked 6.49.7. There the word kanyA exists as an

adjective to the Goddess Saraswati.

Where does one get the Rashi?

sAyaNa describes as kanyA=kamanIyA.

Again, pleas give us a complete translation of the whole verse which

justifies the alternate meaning.

If one were to go by just the Rashi names appearing somewhere, then I

can find many more references in Rigveda(:-))

 

SB further said;

 

/ /*/There is also mention of Kumbha (Rasi), where Agastya and

Vasishtha were born. The verse is :

 

????? ? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ???? ???????? ????? |

??? ? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ???? ???????????? ???? || (RV 7.33.13)

 

Ordinarily Kumbha will mean a pot or kalash but we know that Agastya was

born from the womb of his mother haribhoo and not from a pot. So we

understand that Agastya was born in Kumbha Rashi. Here one has to

interpret the metaphors properly.

 

Dr.Vartak pointed out the mention of Mesha, Vrischika and Dhanu Rashis

in Veda. He also identified Anas-Ratha with Tula Rashi and Shyena as

Meena Rashi in the Veda. I fully support Dr. Vartak's view as he knows

that the Veda itself says that it has Paroksha and Pratyaksha meaning of

the verses.

 

/*If, as Dr. Vartak and SB say this kumbha is a Rashi, then what is the

explanation of the rest?

The verse is mentioning Mitravaruna dropping equal amount of semen in

the kumbha and from it were born Agastya and Vasishtha.

 

Could we have a parokSha translation of the whole mantra please? Without

that, we simply have to take the mention of Rashi as an assertion of

faith (perhaps in the great seer Dr. vartak?)

*

SB frurther said:

 

/2) Rashi in Vedanga Jyotisha

 

Meena Rashi is clearly mentioned in the Vedanga Jyotisha (Yajur Vedanga

Jyotisha-verse 5). The verse is :

 

Ye brihaspatina bhuktva MEENAN prabhriti rasayaH

 

te hritaH panchabhiryataH yaH seshaH sa parigrihaH

 

(Yajur Vedanga Jyotisha - sloka 5)

[

Here 'Meenan prabhriti RasayaH' means Meena and other Rashis. As Dr.

Vartak points out Meena was called Shyena in the Veda

 

/*Please tell us what edition of VJ is this? I cannot locate this verse

in my copy at all. I wrote the fifth verse in mine already. I also gave

the exact reference to my source. Please reciprocate. */

/

 

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With Best Regards,

Avinash Sathaye

(859)277-0130 (H) (859)257-8832 (O)

Web: www.msc.uky. edu/sohum

 

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