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Who will post the answer of this, SB.Ppl loose debate but it doesnt mean one

should hide the answers but it doesnt matter as everybody can follow footprints

and can reach to the answers as all ppl know how to use internet and how to

reach the destination of discussions.

 

Oh let me tell all ppl answer of this:-

 

Mrigachakra is related to nks, not to Rashis.Please dont do adharma and dont

play with Hinduism.

 

Half knowledge is very injurious for discussion, you know. So it is better to

listen instead of speaking and speaking and speaking

 

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

 

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

[vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature, the

Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

 

Cc: , vedic astrology

Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:08 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

In another forum Shri Sarvesh Tiwari had quoted te following verse from the

Mahabharata to show that Astrology was practised in the Mahabharata times.

Mrigachakra is the Zodiac.

 

Quote

 

apyevaM no brAhmaNAH santi vR^iddhA

bahushrutAH shIlavantaH kulInAH

sA.nvatsarA jyotiShi chApi yuktA

nakShatrayogeShu cha nishchayaGYAH

uchchAvacha. n daivayukta.n rahasyaM

divyAH prashnA mR^igachakrA muhUrtA

kShayaM mahAnta.n kurusR^i~njayAnAM

nivedayante pANDavAnA.n jayaM cha

tathA hi no manyate.ajAtashatru H

sa.nsiddhArtho dviShatAM nigrahAya

(udyoga parvan) 

 

Unquote

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

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Friends,

 

If some scholar proves that the Mrigachakra is not Rashichakra and tell us what

the Mrigachakra really means then why should anybody  feel bad. It will only be

an occasion to feel happy to discover the truth. Only fools take these things as

prestige question and not the real seekers of truth.  We are always eager to

know what is the truth. Some idiots hurl dirty abuses when they lose debates but

not everybody. Just hurling abuses do not solve any problem. I tended to agree

with Shri Sarvesh Tiwari's interpretation that Mrigachakra is Zodiac in the

quoted verse from the Mahabharata  as the verse says that the Brahman Jyotishis

made astrological predictions on the basis of the planetary configuration and

mentiong the Mrigachakra. Shri Sarvesh Tiwari wrote as follows:

 

Quote

 

notice the usage of the term " mR^igachakra " which would be the literal meaning

of " Zodiac " .  Also notice that the reference talks of brAhmaNa jyotiShi-s

predicting the imminent victory for the pANDava-s and rout of the kaurava-s on

basis of the muhUrta, relative positions of nakShatra-s etc.  It also mentions,

at least in a third person testimony, of the faith people might already have in

this field when these lines were written -- here it says that 'with such

prediction yudhiShThira was already considering his objectives met.'

 

Unquote

 

If anybody tells us (1) what the Mrigachakra is, (2) that Mrigachakra is not the

Rashi-chakra and (3) how the Mrigachakra is related to predictive astrology,

then I am sure all the Hindus including me, will be grateful to him and I shall

also inform Shri Sarvesh Tiwari. The above verse anyway proves that predictive

astrology  was used in the Mahabharata days and soastrology could not have

been imported from Babylonia and the Greeks. I am sure AKK and his cronies must

be very sad about this.

 

Sincerely

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

 

 

 

 that theI shall glady forward the reply to Shri Sarvesh Tiwari, who said that

Mrigachakra is Rashi Chakra.ant

 

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

 

 

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature,

the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

vedic astrology

Sunday, June 21, 2009, 12:21 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who will post the answer of this, SB.Ppl loose debate but it doesnt mean one

should hide the answers but it doesnt matter as everybody can follow footprints

and can reach to the answers as all ppl know how to use internet and how to

reach the destination of discussions.

 

Oh let me tell all ppl answer of this:-

 

Mrigachakra is related to nks, not to Rashis.Please dont do adharma and dont

play with Hinduism.

 

Half knowledge is very injurious for discussion, you know. So it is better to

listen instead of speaking and speaking and speaking

 

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @> wrote:

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @>

[vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature, the

Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

 

Cc: ancient_indian_ astrology, vedic astrology@ .

com

Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:08 AM

 

Dear friends,

 

In another forum Shri Sarvesh Tiwari had quoted te following verse from the

Mahabharata to show that Astrology was practised in the Mahabharata times.

Mrigachakra is the Zodiac.

 

Quote

 

apyevaM no brAhmaNAH santi vR^iddhA

bahushrutAH shIlavantaH kulInAH

sA.nvatsarA jyotiShi chApi yuktA

nakShatrayogeShu cha nishchayaGYAH

uchchAvacha. n daivayukta.n rahasyaM

divyAH prashnA mR^igachakrA muhUrtA

kShayaM mahAnta.n kurusR^i~njayAnAM

nivedayante pANDavAnA.n jayaM cha

tathA hi no manyate.ajAtashatru H

sa.nsiddhArtho dviShatAM nigrahAya

(udyoga parvan) 

 

Unquote

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

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Namaste,

 

Shri.Sunil Bhattacharjya ji,

 

There is an ancient jyotish Dictionary in Tamil called " Jyotish kadal Akaraadhi "

where in one may try to find out meaning for " mR^igachakra " .

Some twenty years ago, I have seen this rare dictionary in the Library reference

section of Karandhai Tamil Sangam,Thanjavour,TN.

karanthaitamilsangam.com/contact.htm

I think such ancient rare dictionary copies may even be available in Chennai DPI

Laibrary,Nungambakkam,Chennai or at Connemara Public Laibrary,Egmore,Chennai

www.connemarapubliclibrarychennai.com/forPublisher.htm.

Some of our group friends in Chennai / Thanjavour could try to retrive the

meaning from the above sources.

Regards,

D.sathiyanarayana Gupta

 

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature,

the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

vedic astrology

Cc: Jyotishgroup ,

Sunday, June 21, 2009, 8:02 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friends,

 

 

 

If some scholar proves that the Mrigachakra is not Rashichakra and tell us what

the Mrigachakra really means then why should anybody  feel bad. It will only be

an occasion to feel happy to discover the truth. Only fools take these things as

prestige question and not the real seekers of truth.  We are always eager to

know what is the truth. Some idiots hurl dirty abuses when they lose debates but

not everybody. Just hurling abuses do not solve any problem. I tended to agree

with Shri Sarvesh Tiwari's interpretation that Mrigachakra is Zodiac in the

quoted verse from the Mahabharata  as the verse says that the Brahman Jyotishis

made astrological predictions on the basis of the planetary configuration and

mentiong the Mrigachakra. Shri Sarvesh Tiwari wrote as follows:

 

 

 

Quote

 

 

 

notice the usage of the term " mR^igachakra " which would be the literal meaning

of " Zodiac " .  Also notice that the reference talks of brAhmaNa jyotiShi-s

predicting the imminent victory for the pANDava-s and rout of the kaurava-s on

basis of the muhUrta, relative positions of nakShatra-s etc.  It also mentions,

at least in a third person testimony, of the faith people might already have in

this field when these lines were written -- here it says that 'with such

prediction yudhiShThira was already considering his objectives met.'

 

 

 

Unquote

 

 

 

If anybody tells us (1) what the Mrigachakra is, (2) that Mrigachakra is not the

Rashi-chakra and (3) how the Mrigachakra is related to predictive astrology,

then I am sure all the Hindus including me, will be grateful to him and I shall

also inform Shri Sarvesh Tiwari. The above verse anyway proves that predictive

astrology  was used in the Mahabharata days and soastrology could not have

been imported from Babylonia and the Greeks. I am sure AKK and his cronies must

be very sad about this.

 

 

 

Sincerely

 

 

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 that theI shall glady forward the reply to Shri Sarvesh Tiwari, who said that

Mrigachakra is Rashi Chakra.ant

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ > wrote:

 

 

 

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ >

 

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature,

the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

 

vedic astrology

 

Sunday, June 21, 2009, 12:21 PM

 

 

 

Who will post the answer of this, SB.Ppl loose debate but it doesnt mean one

should hide the answers but it doesnt matter as everybody can follow footprints

and can reach to the answers as all ppl know how to use internet and how to

reach the destination of discussions.

 

 

 

Oh let me tell all ppl answer of this:-

 

 

 

Mrigachakra is related to nks, not to Rashis.Please dont do adharma and dont

play with Hinduism.

 

 

 

Half knowledge is very injurious for discussion, you know. So it is better to

listen instead of speaking and speaking and speaking

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a @>

wrote:

 

 

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a @>

 

[vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature, the

Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

 

 

 

Cc: ancient_indian_ astrology, vedic astrology@ .

com

 

Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:08 AM

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

 

 

In another forum Shri Sarvesh Tiwari had quoted te following verse from the

Mahabharata to show that Astrology was practised in the Mahabharata times.

Mrigachakra is the Zodiac.

 

 

 

Quote

 

 

 

apyevaM no brAhmaNAH santi vR^iddhA

 

bahushrutAH shIlavantaH kulInAH

 

sA.nvatsarA jyotiShi chApi yuktA

 

nakShatrayogeShu cha nishchayaGYAH

 

uchchAvacha. n daivayukta.n rahasyaM

 

divyAH prashnA mR^igachakrA muhUrtA

 

kShayaM mahAnta.n kurusR^i~njayAnAM

 

nivedayante pANDavAnA.n jayaM cha

 

tathA hi no manyate.ajAtashatru H

 

sa.nsiddhArtho dviShatAM nigrahAya

 

(udyoga parvan) 

 

 

 

Unquote

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

 

 

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Friends,

 

If some scholar proves that the Mrigachakra is not Rashichakra and tell us what

the Mrigachakra really means then why should anybody  feel bad. It will only be

an occasion to feel happy to discover the truth. Only fools take these things as

prestige question and not the real seekers of truth.  We are always eager to

know what is the truth. Some idiots hurl dirty abuses when they lose debates but

not everybody. Just hurling abuses do not solve any problem. I tended to agree

with Shri Sarvesh Tiwari's interpretation that Mrigachakra is Zodiac in the

quoted verse from the Mahabharata  as the verse says that the Brahman Jyotishis

made astrological predictions on the basis of the planetary configuration and

mentiong the Mrigachakra. Shri Sarvesh Tiwari wrote as follows:

 

Quote

 

notice the usage of the term " mR^igachakra " which would be the literal meaning

of " Zodiac " .  Also notice that the reference talks of brAhmaNa jyotiShi-s

predicting the imminent victory for the pANDava-s and rout of the kaurava-s on

basis of the muhUrta, relative positions of nakShatra-s etc.  It also mentions,

at least in a third person testimony, of the faith people might already have in

this field when these lines were written -- here it says that 'with such

prediction yudhiShThira was already considering his objectives met.'

 

Unquote

 

If anybody tells us (1) what the Mrigachakra is, (2) that Mrigachakra is not the

Rashi-chakra and (3) how the Mrigachakra is related to predictive astrology,

then I am sure all the Hindus including me, will be grateful to him and I shall

also inform Shri Sarvesh Tiwari. The above verse anyway proves that predictive

astrology  was used in the Mahabharata days and soastrology could not have

been imported from Babylonia and the Greeks. I am sure AKK and his cronies must

be very sad about this.

 

Sincerely

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

 

 

 

 that theI shall glady forward the reply to Shri Sarvesh Tiwari, who said that

Mrigachakra is Rashi Chakra.ant

 

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

 

 

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature,

the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

vedic astrology

Sunday, June 21, 2009, 12:21 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who will post the answer of this, SB.Ppl loose debate but it doesnt mean one

should hide the answers but it doesnt matter as everybody can follow footprints

and can reach to the answers as all ppl know how to use internet and how to

reach the destination of discussions.

 

Oh let me tell all ppl answer of this:-

 

Mrigachakra is related to nks, not to Rashis.Please dont do adharma and dont

play with Hinduism.

 

Half knowledge is very injurious for discussion, you know. So it is better to

listen instead of speaking and speaking and speaking

 

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @> wrote:

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @>

[vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature, the

Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

 

Cc: ancient_indian_ astrology, vedic astrology@ .

com

Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:08 AM

 

Dear friends,

 

In another forum Shri Sarvesh Tiwari had quoted te following verse from the

Mahabharata to show that Astrology was practised in the Mahabharata times.

Mrigachakra is the Zodiac.

 

Quote

 

apyevaM no brAhmaNAH santi vR^iddhA

bahushrutAH shIlavantaH kulInAH

sA.nvatsarA jyotiShi chApi yuktA

nakShatrayogeShu cha nishchayaGYAH

uchchAvacha. n daivayukta.n rahasyaM

divyAH prashnA mR^igachakrA muhUrtA

kShayaM mahAnta.n kurusR^i~njayAnAM

nivedayante pANDavAnA.n jayaM cha

tathA hi no manyate.ajAtashatru H

sa.nsiddhArtho dviShatAM nigrahAya

(udyoga parvan) 

 

Unquote

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

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SB,I have just forwarded real mail of Mr Tripathi on the group so that atleast

ppl come to know the real mails.

 

You never forward real thing, why you hide things.

 

Please aisaa met karoo

 

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

 

> Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

> [vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature,

the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

>

> Cc: , vedic astrology

> Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:08 AM

>

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>

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>

>

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>

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>

>

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Dear friends,

>

>  

>

> In another forum Shri Sarvesh Tiwari had quoted te

> following verse from the Mahabharata to show that Astrology

> was practised in the Mahabharata times. Mrigachakra is the

> Zodiac.

>

>  

>

> Quote

>

>  

>

> apyevaM no brAhmaNAH santi vR^iddhA

>

> bahushrutAH shIlavantaH kulInAH

>

> sA.nvatsarA jyotiShi chApi yuktA

>

> nakShatrayogeShu cha nishchayaGYAH

>

> uchchAvacha. n daivayukta.n rahasyaM

>

> divyAH prashnA mR^igachakrA muhUrtA

>

> kShayaM mahAnta.n kurusR^i~njayAnAM

>

> nivedayante pANDavAnA.n jayaM cha

>

> tathA hi no manyate.ajAtashatru H

>

> sa.nsiddhArtho dviShatAM nigrahAya

>

> (udyoga parvan) 

>

>

>

> Unquote

>

>  

>

> Regards,

>

>  

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

>

>

>

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If you are so smart then why did you not tell the group first about Sarveshji's 

mail first. Don't show smartness now. People are not fools. On hindsight every

body can show wisdom. Do you understand? Show things first. You are here not to

contribute but to find fault without basis. Sarveshji's main message was that in

the Mahaabharata times Astrology was practised and that you have missed.

You want to hide the fact that Sarveshji's mail has busted the lies of Kaul and

his cronies that  there is reference to the practice of Astrology in the

Mahabharata long before the Greeks knew astrology. Why do you try these cheap

diversionary tactics? Have the guts to admit the facts. Understand?

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

 

 

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature,

the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

vedic astrology

Monday, June 22, 2009, 4:33 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SB,I have just forwarded real mail of Mr Tripathi on the group so that atleast

ppl come to know the real mails.

 

You never forward real thing, why you hide things.

 

Please aisaa met karoo

 

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @> wrote:

 

> Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Re: Rashi in Vedic literature,

the Relevant Chronology and the Sidereal

>

> Cc: ancient_indian_ astrology, vedic astrology@ .

com

> Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:08 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Dear friends,

>

>  

>

> In another forum Shri Sarvesh Tiwari had quoted te

> following verse from the Mahabharata to show that Astrology

> was practised in the Mahabharata times. Mrigachakra is the

> Zodiac.

>

>  

>

> Quote

>

>  

>

> apyevaM no brAhmaNAH santi vR^iddhA

>

> bahushrutAH shIlavantaH kulInAH

>

> sA.nvatsarA jyotiShi chApi yuktA

>

> nakShatrayogeShu cha nishchayaGYAH

>

> uchchAvacha. n daivayukta.n rahasyaM

>

> divyAH prashnA mR^igachakrA muhUrtA

>

> kShayaM mahAnta.n kurusR^i~njayAnAM

>

> nivedayante pANDavAnA.n jayaM cha

>

> tathA hi no manyate.ajAtashatru H

>

> sa.nsiddhArtho dviShatAM nigrahAya

>

> (udyoga parvan) 

>

>

>

> Unquote

>

>  

>

> Regards,

>

>  

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

>

>

>

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