[HinduCalendar] References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha

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--- On Tue, 23/6/09, Ramveer Singh <singh_ramveer wrote:

 

 

Ramveer Singh <singh_ramveer

[HinduCalendar] Re: References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga

Jyotisha

Abhinavagupta

Tuesday, 23 June, 2009, 6:00 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Khokra,

 

You have written following points :-

 < If we read RgVedic Hymn: 1.164.11, it mentions " sun having twelve spokes in

his wheel " . This is clearly a twelve fold division of the

ecliptic. Now are you and Brighenti by any chance making the absurd

suggestion that the rig vedic seers would have waited for

1000 years (still assuming the AIT scholars' date of 1400

B.C. for Rig Veda), for the arrival of the Alexandrian Greeks to

label these twelve divisions of Sun's path through the firmament?

Seems illogical doesn't it?

 

And

 

These are 12 subdivisions of the year into months. If you read the

second line of RV 1.164.11 it talks about " Seven hundred and twenty

sons " which imply 360 days and 360 nights thus forming an year. >

 

Please let me know how you will equate 360 days with 360 degrees of ecliptic.

365+somedays equates 360 degrees of ecliptic.

 

We were already having 12 months names as Madhu, Madhav,Tapa ,

Tapasya and those were seasonal, nobody is declining it.We were also aware of VE

point.

Even before arrival of Alexandrain Greeks means before that time, in VJ, MBH and

VEDAS ,there is mention of NKS and about Sun and MOON, but there is no mention

of planet Mars, Jupiter, Saturn etc etc...

 

Point is only about Rashis.If Rashis are of our origin than how those name have

been originated.Right? ?Atleast we should have any evidence through VEDAS and

VEDANGA Jyotish or even in MBH.But those are not there...

 

Rashis have been originated from Constellations. So name of constellation and by

what stars those constellations have been made, there should be clear-cut

mention in texts.Right.

 

Now i think you got the point what things came with GREEKS and ie Rashi.

 

Thank You

[ Rajput Ramveer Singh ]

 

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Ramveer,

> Ramveer Singh wrote:

> < If we read RgVedic Hymn: 1.164.11, it mentions " sun having twelve

> spokes in his wheel " .. This is clearly a twelve fold division of the ecliptic.

>

> But what type of those twelve divisions could be??

>

These are 12 subdivisions of the year into months. If you read the

second line of RV 1.164.11 it talks about " Seven hundred and twenty

sons " which imply 360 days and 360 nights thus forming an year.

Shivraj

 

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Dear Khokraji,

< If we read RgVedic Hymn: 1.164.11, it mentions " sun having twelve spokes in

his wheel " . This is clearly a twelve fold division of the

ecliptic. >

But what type of those twelve divisions could be??

In astrology there are 2 options Tropical and second one is sidereal.

And in sidereal there are at least 20 ayanamsha.

BUT AT THE SAME ITEM IT ALSO GIVES THE CLUE THAT THEY ARE TALKING OF 12

SEASONS.SO IT DOESN'T GIVE ANY CLUE THAT 12 SPOKES SHOULD TAKE CRUTCH OF 12

ANIMALS AT LEAST.

THERE WERE 12 SEASONS NAMED AS TAPA,TAPASYA ETC ETC...IN VEDIC TIMES SO WHY NOT

THEY WERE TALKING OF IT.

Thanks

[Ramveer]

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Kaulji and Francesco ji,

> Avtar Krishen Kaul wrote:

>

> 4. Zodiac is an " imaginary belt " with " imaginary animals "

> none of which is equal to one another. Those animals were

> known as constellations and became known as Mesha etc.

> rashis later. They are actually of Greek origin, whereas

> nakshatras are of Indian origin.

>

If we read RgVedic Hymn: 1.164.11, it mentions " sun having twelve spokes in

his wheel " . This is clearly a twelve fold division of the

ecliptic. Now are you and Brighenti by any chance making the absurd

suggestion that the rig vedic seers would have waited for

1000 years (still assuming the AIT scholars' date of 1400

B.C. for Rig Veda), for the arrival of the Alexandrian Greeks to

label these twelve divisions of Sun's path through the firmament?

Seems illogical doesn't it?

[Reply to Avtar's post (21 June 2009) at

http://groups. / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5186]

> Francesco Brighenti wrote:

>

> This appears to me to support (or either not to contradict) the

> contention that the zodiac was imported into India from

> Irano-Chaldaean sources between the phase of Achaemenid

> supremacy over present-day Pakistan and the subsequent advent

> of the Greeks following Alexander's invasion of the same

> territories.

Please read the Rig Vedic Hymn given above. Now please tell us

a reference from Irano Chaldean sources of proven provenance

which predates RigVeda in referring to a 12 fold division

of the ecliptic. If we cannot find one then the thesis that Greeks

brought this " knowledge " into India stands rejected.

[Reply to Francesco's post (21 June 2009) at

http://groups. / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5185]

 

[ Rajput Ramveer Singh ]

 

[Response to Tokra's post on 23 June 2009 at

http://groups. / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5205]

 

 

 

 

 

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