Practical application of astrological rules.

[Guest guest]

Learned Members,

 

 

Can anybody help me to understand this chart?

 

 

How learned members proceed if they happen to come across such a chart like the

one given here?

 

 

I am not testing anybody's skills here. I request you to help me.

 

 

I recall the words of my teacher who used to say, an astrologer should be able

to tell at least something as per the current dasha and the transits, what the

native is enjoying. I am not able to arrive at a satisfactory conclusion and

tell the same to the person who came to me with this chart.

 

 

Female

Feb 5, 1962

Time: 7:16AM

Zone: 5:30

DST: 0

New Delhi

Longitude: 77E12

Latitude: 28N36

 

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

            Pranams.  The chart is really puzzling.  But in my college days ie

in the year 1962, I heard that in South India religious leaders and

peetadhipadhis made extensive statements on such conjunction of 8 planets ina

sign foreboding some evil effects on the universe.  In fact, lot of Yagyas and

Chandi Homas were conducted to mitigate the evil effects of such conjunction. 

In those days I had not personally perceived any change in the environment. I

used to think what would be the case if anybody had born on that date. 

Accidentally You have brought one as a puzzle chart. Let the learned people say

on such rare charts. I shall wait and see..

with regards

S.R.Balasubramaniam

 

--- On Wed, 15/7/09, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

 

 

ravindramani <ravindramani

Practical application of astrological rules.

 

Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 4:53 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Learned Members,

 

Can anybody help me to understand this chart?

 

How learned members proceed if they happen to come across such a chart like the

one given here?

 

I am not testing anybody's skills here. I request you to help me.

 

I recall the words of my teacher who used to say, an astrologer should be able

to tell at least something as per the current dasha and the transits, what the

native is enjoying. I am not able to arrive at a satisfactory conclusion and

tell the same to the person who came to me with this chart.

 

Female

Feb 5, 1962

Time: 7:16AM

Zone: 5:30

DST: 0

New Delhi

Longitude: 77E12

Latitude: 28N36

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani ji and group,

 

Rare of course, such nativities are, but we do come across them once in a

while.

There was a quiz and a long discussion on a similar chart on another list

very recently.

 

Native male: 5.2.1962/6.05 hrs/Delhi

 

I am not sure if it is proper to give the reference here. But it was an

interesting and revealing exercise.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

 

 

2009/7/15 Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46

 

>

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Pranams. The chart is really puzzling. But in my college days

> ie in the year 1962, I heard that in South India religious leaders and

> peetadhipadhis made extensive statements on such conjunction of 8 planets

> ina sign foreboding some evil effects on the universe. In fact, lot of

> Yagyas and Chandi Homas were conducted to mitigate the evil effects of such

> conjunction. In those days I had not personally perceived any change in the

> environment. I used to think what would be the case if anybody had born on

> that date. Accidentally You have brought one as a puzzle chart. Let the

> learned people say on such rare charts. I shall wait and see..

> with regards

> S.R.Balasubramaniam

>

> --- On Wed, 15/7/09, ravindramani

<ravindramani<ravindramani%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> ravindramani <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>>

> Practical application of astrological rules.

> <%40>

> Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 4:53 PM

>

>

> Learned Members,

>

> Can anybody help me to understand this chart?

>

> How learned members proceed if they happen to come across such a chart like

> the one given here?

>

> I am not testing anybody's skills here. I request you to help me.

>

> I recall the words of my teacher who used to say, an astrologer should be

> able to tell at least something as per the current dasha and the transits,

> what the native is enjoying. I am not able to arrive at a satisfactory

> conclusion and tell the same to the person who came to me with this chart.

>

> Female

> Feb 5, 1962

> Time: 7:16AM

> Zone: 5:30

> DST: 0

> New Delhi

> Longitude: 77E12

> Latitude: 28N36

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>

> Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> http://in.local./

>

>

[Guest guest]

, " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote:

>

These charts need some conditional dasas to interpret. KN Rao has talked about

this particular month in one of his books, that has essentially spoiled sleep

for many astrologers. He goes to show, how one can use mandook dasa if there are

so many planets are in quadrants etc. For this chart, I am getting CP lagna and

Leo navamsa.

 

Currently, I can say this, looking at his chart for 10 minutes (please confirm)

 

1. some events at home that has disturbed his domestic happiness.

2. wife's health?; some mental disturbance due to events at home, possibly

health issues even for native.

 

MS

> Learned Members,

>

>

> Can anybody help me to understand this chart?

>

>

> How learned members proceed if they happen to come across such a chart like

the one given here?

>

>

> I am not testing anybody's skills here. I request you to help me.

>

>

> I recall the words of my teacher who used to say, an astrologer should be able

to tell at least something as per the current dasha and the transits, what the

native is enjoying. I am not able to arrive at a satisfactory conclusion and

tell the same to the person who came to me with this chart.

>

>

> Female

> Feb 5, 1962

> Time: 7:16AM

> Zone: 5:30

> DST: 0

> New Delhi

> Longitude: 77E12

> Latitude: 28N36

>

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>

[Guest guest]

Sharma Ji,

 

At the outset, this chart belongs to a woman and it is Capricorn lagna and Leo

Navamsa.

 

Yes. Shri K.N. Rao, speaks of this month (Feb. 1962) in more than two places in

his different books if my memory serves me right. In his book, The Nehru

Dynasty, especially using this very day, 5th Februry, 1962 (solar eclipse), he

describes how to interpret eclipses in mundane astrology. He brilliantly

correlates the Indo-Chinese war which took place after this eclipse vis-à-vis

the chart of Nehru. He further describes how this day affected the USA and

USSR.

 

In the instant chart, Rahu is in Kendra from the lagna lord Saturn – Astottari

could be applied. 7th Lord Moon in Lagna – Dwisaptati Sama Dasha can be

applied. Shastihayani Dasha can be applied, Sun being in Ascendant. Further,

being the day birth and Ascendant is in Sun's hora Shat Trimsha Sama Dasha can

also be applied. As you said, four or more planets in the Kendra, Mandooka

dasha and even Kendradi Dasha can be applied.

 

The dasha is Sat/Ketu/Jup. Saturn is in Shravana, who transits in 8th from

Lagna, from Moon, from 7th Lord and from all bhava lords. Though Moon is

waxing, notice the distance from Sun, she is lusterless. PD Lord, Jupiter is in

the constellation of Mars who is the 4th Lord. Mars is the 4th lord of Navamsa

and placed in 8th from Navamsa Lagna. One can certainly expect problems in

domestic front and bad health for the native, Jupiter being the malefic for this

lagna. In transit, he is retrograde in 2nd house. I think, one has to proceed

from the divisional charts and the constellations where the bhava lords are

placed.

 

Thanks for your response.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

, " M. Sharma " <nakshatras wrote:

>

> , " ravindramani " <ravindramani@> wrote:

> >

> These charts need some conditional dasas to interpret. KN Rao has talked about

this particular month in one of his books, that has essentially spoiled sleep

for many astrologers. He goes to show, how one can use mandook dasa if there are

so many planets are in quadrants etc. For this chart, I am getting CP lagna and

Leo navamsa.

>

> Currently, I can say this, looking at his chart for 10 minutes (please

confirm)

>

> 1. some events at home that has disturbed his domestic happiness.

> 2. wife's health?; some mental disturbance due to events at home, possibly

health issues even for native.

>

> MS

[Guest guest]

Shri Balasubramaniam and Neelam Ji,

 

Thanks for your response and showing interest on this chart. I asked for

important life events and the background information of the person concerned.

I would share with the group as and when the same is made available to me, of

course if I am permitted to do so.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Ravindramani ji and group,

>

> Rare of course, such nativities are, but we do come across them once in a

> while.

> There was a quiz and a long discussion on a similar chart on another list

> very recently.

>

> Native male: 5.2.1962/6.05 hrs/Delhi

>

> I am not sure if it is proper to give the reference here. But it was an

interesting and revealing exercise.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

>

>

> 2009/7/15 Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Pranams. The chart is really puzzling. But in my college days

> > ie in the year 1962, I heard that in South India religious leaders and

> > peetadhipadhis made extensive statements on such conjunction of 8 planets

> > ina sign foreboding some evil effects on the universe. In fact, lot of

> > Yagyas and Chandi Homas were conducted to mitigate the evil effects of such

> > conjunction. In those days I had not personally perceived any change in the

> > environment. I used to think what would be the case if anybody had born on

> > that date. Accidentally You have brought one as a puzzle chart. Let the

> > learned people say on such rare charts. I shall wait and see..

> > with regards

> > S.R.Balasubramaniam

> >

[Guest guest]

Sure Ravindramani ji, I was only sharing a similar chart for which

background information is readily available.

I would try to come back on this chart posted by you.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

2009/7/15 ravindramani <ravindramani

 

>

>

> Shri Balasubramaniam and Neelam Ji,

>

> Thanks for your response and showing interest on this chart. I asked for

> important life events and the background information of the person

> concerned. I would share with the group as and when the same is made

> available to me, of course if I am permitted to do so.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>

>

> <%40>,

> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravindramani ji and group,

> >

> > Rare of course, such nativities are, but we do come across them once in a

> > while.

> > There was a quiz and a long discussion on a similar chart on another list

> > very recently.

> >

> > Native male: 5.2.1962/6.05 hrs/Delhi

> >

> > I am not sure if it is proper to give the reference here. But it was an

> interesting and revealing exercise.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > 2009/7/15 Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > Pranams. The chart is really puzzling. But in my college days

> > > ie in the year 1962, I heard that in South India religious leaders and

> > > peetadhipadhis made extensive statements on such conjunction of 8

> planets

> > > ina sign foreboding some evil effects on the universe. In fact, lot of

> > > Yagyas and Chandi Homas were conducted to mitigate the evil effects of

> such

> > > conjunction. In those days I had not personally perceived any change in

> the

> > > environment. I used to think what would be the case if anybody had born

> on

> > > that date. Accidentally You have brought one as a puzzle chart. Let the

> > > learned people say on such rare charts. I shall wait and see..

> > > with regards

> > > S.R.Balasubramaniam

> > >

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mani Avl,

 

Eversince you posted the chart I was expecting a feeble response to it. To the

best of my knowledge, hope I did not miss any mail, Mr. M. Sharma has only

attempted to answer/assist you on that chart. In all perhaps there have been

three responses to your mail.

 

Yes, these charts are intriguing and test out the skills of an astrologer to the

core. And it is here that application of conditional dashas/jaimini dashas help.

 

This lady would have good number of brothers and sisters. The total could be

four including atleast 3 miscarriages.

 

Her education could be good and she could have got married after 1981 and she

can have maximum three children/pregnancies.

 

Her marriage seems to be with a person/family known to the girl/girl's family

but marriage is again an area of tension in her life.

 

Period after 1998 seems to somewhat troublesome on health related issues.

 

Just trying to put the skills to test.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

 

________________________________

ravindramani <ravindramani

 

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:00:26 PM

Re: Practical application of astrological rules.

 

 

 

 

 

Shri Balasubramaniam and Neelam Ji,

 

Thanks for your response and showing interest on this chart. I asked for

important life events and the background information of the person concerned. I

would share with the group as and when the same is made available to me, of

course if I am permitted to do so.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Ravindramani ji and group,

>

> Rare of course, such nativities are, but we do come across them once in a

> while.

> There was a quiz and a long discussion on a similar chart on another list

> very recently.

>

> Native male: 5.2.1962/6.05 hrs/Delhi

>

> I am not sure if it is proper to give the reference here. But it was an

interesting and revealing exercise.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

>

>

> 2009/7/15 Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 >

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Pranams. The chart is really puzzling. But in my college days

> > ie in the year 1962, I heard that in South India religious leaders and

> > peetadhipadhis made extensive statements on such conjunction of 8 planets

> > ina sign foreboding some evil effects on the universe. In fact, lot of

> > Yagyas and Chandi Homas were conducted to mitigate the evil effects of such

> > conjunction. In those days I had not personally perceived any change in the

> > environment. I used to think what would be the case if anybody had born on

> > that date. Accidentally You have brought one as a puzzle chart. Let the

> > learned people say on such rare charts. I shall wait and see..

> > with regards

> > S.R.Balasubramaniam

> >

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear MKP,

 

Yes boss. This I myself expected in advance (feeble response). Hope you could

have already gone through my response to Mr. Sharma.

 

Obviously, the heavily loaded 1:7 axis means, the self and the 7th house affairs

are going to play a major role in the life of the individual at the cost of the

other spheres.

 

In my view, operating periods are secondary. Certainly they are the tools to

timing the events. You would appreciate the first priority of an astrologer is

that gathering the trends or the basic promise available in the chart. I should

pick them up first.

 

Of course, the opening balance of dasha always helps. The three planets those

who have special aspects are willing to reveal something related to the houses,

which they interact by virtue of their placement in Lagna. They connect

themselves with other houses viz. Saturn with 3rd House and 10th House. Mars –

with 4th house and 8th House. Likewise Jupiter the 3rd lord with 5th lord

Venus in lagna, (notice the distance between them) influencing the 5th house of

emotions, writing and intelligence with 9th house. They gave valuable clues to

read the chart. Still, what about the other planets and the other areas?

 

On some other occasion, I proceeded from the placement of planets in respective

divisional charts in general and keeping the significators as lagna in

particular, for the related areas of life. That solved the problem to some

extent. I cast the prashna chart, the moment, I happened to come across this

kind of charts. That did help to some extent to pin point the issue at hand.

Next came to my aid the constellations in which the planets occupy.

 

Still, I am not satisfied with my methods fully. I know all astrologers do have

their own methods that they develop, in due course of time, in their actual

practice. There could be some other methods, other learned astrologers are

using, if they reveal, it would be for the benefit of others. That is the basic

idea why I put this chart here.

 

Once, I had 4 charts (born on different times in day time, i.e. on 5th February

1962) in my possession (two from Delhi and two from Kanchipuram) with noted

events. Unfortunately I lost them, courtesy computer viruses and crashes. I

now recall the wisdom of my teacher always telling in the class to keep a manual

record.

 

Anyways…… the journey continues….in the pursuit of astrology.

 

I thank you that you are the person who provoked me to learn this science

systematically again, now this is my companion and is in my mind at all times.

I know the planets shall reveal themselves only to the extent they want to

reveal to me.

 

Thanks for your response. I would look into the chart how you arrived at those

conclusions.

 

I thank once again those who responded through the Group and " privately " .

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

=====

In , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> Dear Mani Avl,

>

> Eversince you posted the chart I was expecting a feeble response to it. To the

best of my knowledge, hope I did not miss any mail, Mr. M. Sharma has only

attempted to answer/assist you on that chart. In all perhaps there have been

three responses to your mail.

>

> Yes, these charts are intriguing and test out the skills of an astrologer to

the core. And it is here that application of conditional dashas/jaimini dashas

help.

>

> This lady would have good number of brothers and sisters. The total could be

four including atleast 3 miscarriages.

>

> Her education could be good and she could have got married after 1981 and she

can have maximum three children/pregnancies.

>

> Her marriage seems to be with a person/family known to the girl/girl's family

but marriage is again an area of tension in her life.

>

> Period after 1998 seems to somewhat troublesome on health related issues.

>

> Just trying to put the skills to test.

>

> regards,

>

> Mouji

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj (Mouji) ji, Ravindramani ji,

 

A humble cautious attempt, just for testing some points!

 

With an strong mars in lagna and most planets also governed by mars as star

lord, the lady could be bold and courageous (martian!). She would achieve

success in her chosen field, may be an artistic field, music/dance

(dhanishtha) and writing skills. She could simultaneously be in public

service for a career, and pursuing artistic talents as hobby. The same mars,

however, is also 22nd DKL and 64 NVL from lagna and moon. It gets 8H in

navamsha. She was born in mars/mars/rahu. She might also face constant

health problems. Might have been born with some congenital problem.

 

LL Saturn is in own house, but combust in D-1 and neecha in 9H of D-9.

Saturn is the final dispositor of all planets. Both benefics are weak and

afflicted. The native is mostly driven by malefics. She might be stubborn

and used to having her way, may not be caring about the means adopted to

achieve an end. Ketu also afflicts all planets.

 

All planets rising closely with lagna, excessive focus on self at all levels

(PMS) might be challenging for the native on all fronts and life could be a

roller coaster ride. All planets are combust 8L sun which again indicates

frequent ups and downs.

 

High Ashtakvarga score in 11H (54) would make her popular, social and

successful, yet a resulting deficiency in all other departments (houses)

would keep pulling her down and she may not retain her gains. The social

status might come with blemish.

 

Marriage may not be successful. The lady has her own way and the husband may

not be with neat habits. Karak and 7L both weak and affect lagna. A

possibility of having multiple affairs and second marriage also exists.

 

She would have children (2?), but again afflictions to Karak and 5L in D-1

and D-7 shows deficiency in happiness through children. She might be too

self-obsessed to care for children!

 

From 2003, she is running saturn’s dasha, which could be a challenging

period for her. Saturn transiting in 8H from lagna and moon from 2006, could

be bad for her health and general well-being. There could be marital

disharmony too. Career-wise it may not be bad, but full of mental tension

and worries on various accounts. Jupiter moving over natal Jup and Sun also

shows losses through body, finance, siblings, etc. Tough times for her may

be!

 

Hope to have feedback on this.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ravindramani ji,

 

Since last August, has there been some difficulty in relationship between the

nativity and her father or some concerns regarding father?

 

Also, does the lady have a red mark or mole on her face or perhaps in the white

of her eye? And worm infestation during childhood (this may be difficult to

confirm, of course!).

 

Her thoughts run ahead of her speech or writing and so at times difficult to

follow her?

 

RR

 

, " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote:

>

> Learned Members,

>

>

> Can anybody help me to understand this chart?

>

>

> How learned members proceed if they happen to come across such a chart like

the one given here?

>

>

> I am not testing anybody's skills here. I request you to help me.

>

>

> I recall the words of my teacher who used to say, an astrologer should be able

to tell at least something as per the current dasha and the transits, what the

native is enjoying. I am not able to arrive at a satisfactory conclusion and

tell the same to the person who came to me with this chart.

>

>

> Female

> Feb 5, 1962

> Time: 7:16AM

> Zone: 5:30

> DST: 0

> New Delhi

> Longitude: 77E12

> Latitude: 28N36

>

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>

[Guest guest]

Neelam Ji,

 

Courtesy, the on going meaningless war of words between two or three persons in

the Group, I was not able to see your analysis the whole Saturday. (Their

missiles are flooded my mail box like unsolicited visitors at home....I don't

know how to avoid them).

 

Thanks for your response and mentioning the logic behind your analysis. I

understand your methodology by which you are proceeding in a chart. This

method is so familier to me and it has the flavour of BVB, Delhi.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

PS: So far as the feed back is concerned, the person who handed over the chart

is slightly angry over me why I have posted the chart in Internet. I think I am

able to convince him that no personal information about the person concerned or

identity is posted in the Net. The basic purpose is not judging her, but to

develop a methodology to proceed in such a difficult charts. Kindly bear with

me till that time.

 

 

 

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoj (Mouji) ji, Ravindramani ji,

>

> A humble cautious attempt, just for testing some points!

>

> With an strong mars in lagna and most planets also governed by mars as star

> lord, the lady could be bold and courageous (martian!). She would achieve

> success in her chosen field, may be an artistic field, music/dance

> (dhanishtha) and writing skills. She could simultaneously be in public

> service for a career, and pursuing artistic talents as hobby. The same mars,

> however, is also 22nd DKL and 64 NVL from lagna and moon. It gets 8H in

> navamsha. She was born in mars/mars/rahu. She might also face constant

> health problems. Might have been born with some congenital problem.

>

> LL Saturn is in own house, but combust in D-1 and neecha in 9H of D-9.

> Saturn is the final dispositor of all planets. Both benefics are weak and

> afflicted. The native is mostly driven by malefics. She might be stubborn

> and used to having her way, may not be caring about the means adopted to

> achieve an end. Ketu also afflicts all planets.

>

> All planets rising closely with lagna, excessive focus on self at all levels

> (PMS) might be challenging for the native on all fronts and life could be a

> roller coaster ride. All planets are combust 8L sun which again indicates

> frequent ups and downs.

>

> High Ashtakvarga score in 11H (54) would make her popular, social and

> successful, yet a resulting deficiency in all other departments (houses)

> would keep pulling her down and she may not retain her gains. The social

> status might come with blemish.

>

> Marriage may not be successful. The lady has her own way and the husband may

> not be with neat habits. Karak and 7L both weak and affect lagna. A

> possibility of having multiple affairs and second marriage also exists.

>

> She would have children (2?), but again afflictions to Karak and 5L in D-1

> and D-7 shows deficiency in happiness through children. She might be too

> self-obsessed to care for children!

>

> From 2003, she is running saturn's dasha, which could be a challenging

> period for her. Saturn transiting in 8H from lagna and moon from 2006, could

> be bad for her health and general well-being. There could be marital

> disharmony too. Career-wise it may not be bad, but full of mental tension

> and worries on various accounts. Jupiter moving over natal Jup and Sun also

> shows losses through body, finance, siblings, etc. Tough times for her may

> be!

>

> Hope to have feedback on this.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

[Guest guest]

Rohiniranjan ji,

 

Thankyou very much for your response.

 

Sincere regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Ravindramani ji,

>

> Since last August, has there been some difficulty in relationship between the

nativity and her father or some concerns regarding father?

>

> Also, does the lady have a red mark or mole on her face or perhaps in the

white of her eye? And worm infestation during childhood (this may be difficult

to confirm, of course!).

>

> Her thoughts run ahead of her speech or writing and so at times difficult to

follow her?

>

> RR

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani ji,

 

You refer to the nativity as " he " and 'she'! Which one is correct and the other

a typo? I am paying attention ;-)

 

Yes -- this is a problem which I have often questioned third-pary querrants

about, namely: Have you got the permission of the nativity before posting on a

public forum!

 

I am not grinding any axes, please trust me, for I have none, as far as

astrology or divination is concerned in my life! I am just too grateful they

arrived when they did and stayed...

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote:

>

> Neelam Ji,

>

> Courtesy, the on going meaningless war of words between two or three persons

in the Group, I was not able to see your analysis the whole Saturday. (Their

missiles are flooded my mail box like unsolicited visitors at home....I don't

know how to avoid them).

>

> Thanks for your response and mentioning the logic behind your analysis. I

understand your methodology by which you are proceeding in a chart. This

method is so familier to me and it has the flavour of BVB, Delhi.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

> PS: So far as the feed back is concerned, the person who handed over the

chart is slightly angry over me why I have posted the chart in Internet. I

think I am able to convince him that no personal information about the person

concerned or identity is posted in the Net. The basic purpose is not judging

her, but to develop a methodology to proceed in such a difficult charts. Kindly

bear with me till that time.

>

>

>

>

> , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoj (Mouji) ji, Ravindramani ji,

> >

> > A humble cautious attempt, just for testing some points!

> >

> > With an strong mars in lagna and most planets also governed by mars as star

> > lord, the lady could be bold and courageous (martian!). She would achieve

> > success in her chosen field, may be an artistic field, music/dance

> > (dhanishtha) and writing skills. She could simultaneously be in public

> > service for a career, and pursuing artistic talents as hobby. The same mars,

> > however, is also 22nd DKL and 64 NVL from lagna and moon. It gets 8H in

> > navamsha. She was born in mars/mars/rahu. She might also face constant

> > health problems. Might have been born with some congenital problem.

> >

> > LL Saturn is in own house, but combust in D-1 and neecha in 9H of D-9.

> > Saturn is the final dispositor of all planets. Both benefics are weak and

> > afflicted. The native is mostly driven by malefics. She might be stubborn

> > and used to having her way, may not be caring about the means adopted to

> > achieve an end. Ketu also afflicts all planets.

> >

> > All planets rising closely with lagna, excessive focus on self at all levels

> > (PMS) might be challenging for the native on all fronts and life could be a

> > roller coaster ride. All planets are combust 8L sun which again indicates

> > frequent ups and downs.

> >

> > High Ashtakvarga score in 11H (54) would make her popular, social and

> > successful, yet a resulting deficiency in all other departments (houses)

> > would keep pulling her down and she may not retain her gains. The social

> > status might come with blemish.

> >

> > Marriage may not be successful. The lady has her own way and the husband may

> > not be with neat habits. Karak and 7L both weak and affect lagna. A

> > possibility of having multiple affairs and second marriage also exists.

> >

> > She would have children (2?), but again afflictions to Karak and 5L in D-1

> > and D-7 shows deficiency in happiness through children. She might be too

> > self-obsessed to care for children!

> >

> > From 2003, she is running saturn's dasha, which could be a challenging

> > period for her. Saturn transiting in 8H from lagna and moon from 2006, could

> > be bad for her health and general well-being. There could be marital

> > disharmony too. Career-wise it may not be bad, but full of mental tension

> > and worries on various accounts. Jupiter moving over natal Jup and Sun also

> > shows losses through body, finance, siblings, etc. Tough times for her may

> > be!

> >

> > Hope to have feedback on this.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

The native is a female. I have not seen her so far. One person who brought the

chart to me is a colleague of mine. He is a male. He is now slightly upset.

Kindly read my initial post. Kindly read my response to Shri Sharma also. The

native is a female. Repeat. The native is a female.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Ravindramani ji,

>

> You refer to the nativity as " he " and 'she'! Which one is correct and the

other a typo? I am paying attention ;-)

>

> Yes -- this is a problem which I have often questioned third-pary querrants

about, namely: Have you got the permission of the nativity before posting on a

public forum!

>

> I am not grinding any axes, please trust me, for I have none, as far as

astrology or divination is concerned in my life! I am just too grateful they

arrived when they did and stayed...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> , " ravindramani " <ravindramani@> wrote:

> >

> > Neelam Ji,

> >

> > Courtesy, the on going meaningless war of words between two or three persons

in the Group, I was not able to see your analysis the whole Saturday. (Their

missiles are flooded my mail box like unsolicited visitors at home....I don't

know how to avoid them).

> >

> > Thanks for your response and mentioning the logic behind your analysis. I

understand your methodology by which you are proceeding in a chart. This

method is so familier to me and it has the flavour of BVB, Delhi.

> >

> > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

> >

> > PS: So far as the feed back is concerned, the person who handed over the

chart is slightly angry over me why I have posted the chart in Internet. I

think I am able to convince him that no personal information about the person

concerned or identity is posted in the Net. The basic purpose is not judging

her, but to develop a methodology to proceed in such a difficult charts. Kindly

bear with me till that time.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani ji!

 

Sorry for upsetting you so evidently :-(

 

Why did you post this chart then without this vital piece of information and

your questions?

 

Basically speaking, you hardly know anything about this person, and must go back

to her to verify each and every thing we say here and now your male colleague is

upset too because you should not have gone public with this data and make the

trusting forum members work into looking at the chart and so on and on!

 

No wonder that you got so few responses on this thread as someone was commenting

and wondering about!!

 

I hope this EXAMPLE makes sense to ALL and is taken seriously and sincerely for

similar future exercises!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

PS: In the meantime if some of you are itching to GO and test your

Astro-prowess, please GOOGLE using DYMOCK as the keyword and you may find a

treasure or at least a TREAT!

 

 

 

 

 

, " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> The native is a female. I have not seen her so far. One person who brought

the chart to me is a colleague of mine. He is a male. He is now slightly

upset. Kindly read my initial post. Kindly read my response to Shri Sharma

also. The native is a female. Repeat. The native is a female.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

>

> , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravindramani ji,

> >

> > You refer to the nativity as " he " and 'she'! Which one is correct and the

other a typo? I am paying attention ;-)

> >

> > Yes -- this is a problem which I have often questioned third-pary querrants

about, namely: Have you got the permission of the nativity before posting on a

public forum!

> >

> > I am not grinding any axes, please trust me, for I have none, as far as

astrology or divination is concerned in my life! I am just too grateful they

arrived when they did and stayed...

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> > , " ravindramani " <ravindramani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Neelam Ji,

> > >

> > > Courtesy, the on going meaningless war of words between two or three

persons in the Group, I was not able to see your analysis the whole Saturday.

(Their missiles are flooded my mail box like unsolicited visitors at home....I

don't know how to avoid them).

> > >

> > > Thanks for your response and mentioning the logic behind your analysis. I

understand your methodology by which you are proceeding in a chart. This

method is so familier to me and it has the flavour of BVB, Delhi.

> > >

> > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

> > >

> > > PS: So far as the feed back is concerned, the person who handed over the

chart is slightly angry over me why I have posted the chart in Internet. I

think I am able to convince him that no personal information about the person

concerned or identity is posted in the Net. The basic purpose is not judging

her, but to develop a methodology to proceed in such a difficult charts. Kindly

bear with me till that time.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

I say again. I wanted how you would procced in this type of a chart. Help me

how to procced, the method, that is what I asked for here. I am writing time and

again this fact. That was my basic intention.

 

I sense that point is not addressed.

 

I thank everybody once again for their valuable time.

 

From my side, the thread is closed here itself.

 

Regards,C.S. Ravindramani.

 

PS: 1.Sorry for the inconvenience caused to the Learned Members.

 

2. Thanks for Dymoc. I did pariticpate in number of puzzles posted by him.

 

 

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Ravindramani ji!

>

> Sorry for upsetting you so evidently :-(

>

> Why did you post this chart then without this vital piece of information and

your questions?

>

> Basically speaking, you hardly know anything about this person, and must go

back to her to verify each and every thing we say here and now your male

colleague is upset too because you should not have gone public with this data

and make the trusting forum members work into looking at the chart and so on and

on!

>

> No wonder that you got so few responses on this thread as someone was

commenting and wondering about!!

>

> I hope this EXAMPLE makes sense to ALL and is taken seriously and sincerely

for similar future exercises!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> PS: In the meantime if some of you are itching to GO and test your

Astro-prowess, please GOOGLE using DYMOCK as the keyword and you may find a

treasure or at least a TREAT!

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani ji,

 

Please do not misunderstand me. If this particular nativity is special and

personally important then please use the professional approach. For the sake of

transparency, please know that this is not a " come hither " message! I do not

write this so that you may approach me for a professional/paid reading! But I

assure you based on what I have seen and daily observe, such help from PROs is

readily available but please do not expect that publicly if you are not the

nativity seeking help or even close enough to the nativity you ask for or seek

help for, out of the goodness of your heart!

 

And if this is but a 'learning exercise', again I repeat! Internet is not the

proper place to expect such help!

 

There are many schools and Vidyalayas that could be approached if learning by

yourself and on your own is getting to be a bit onerous.

 

I am not involved or associated with any of those, by the way, in case that

doubt entered your mind! Just trying to help!!

 

But I have heard claims and assurances that those exist! Google is your Guide, I

suppose!

 

Kind regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I say again. I wanted how you would procced in this type of a chart. Help me

how to procced, the method, that is what I asked for here. I am writing time and

again this fact. That was my basic intention.

>

> I sense that point is not addressed.

>

> I thank everybody once again for their valuable time.

>

> From my side, the thread is closed here itself.

>

> Regards,C.S. Ravindramani.

>

> PS: 1.Sorry for the inconvenience caused to the Learned Members.

>

> 2. Thanks for Dymoc. I did pariticpate in number of puzzles posted by him.

>

>

>

>

> , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravindramani ji!

> >

> > Sorry for upsetting you so evidently :-(

> >

> > Why did you post this chart then without this vital piece of information and

your questions?

> >

> > Basically speaking, you hardly know anything about this person, and must go

back to her to verify each and every thing we say here and now your male

colleague is upset too because you should not have gone public with this data

and make the trusting forum members work into looking at the chart and so on and

on!

> >

> > No wonder that you got so few responses on this thread as someone was

commenting and wondering about!!

> >

> > I hope this EXAMPLE makes sense to ALL and is taken seriously and sincerely

for similar future exercises!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> > PS: In the meantime if some of you are itching to GO and test your

Astro-prowess, please GOOGLE using DYMOCK as the keyword and you may find a

treasure or at least a TREAT!

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani ji,

 

If the purpose is learning only, why do you not take up the case which I

offered in my first message in this thread. I can provide the background

information and event details for him. This is also capricorn ascendant and

8 planets in lagna.

 

I think there is no single method which may be applied to any chart,

including this one. One has to use multiple techniques and check form

various methods to arrive at right conclusions. Divisional charts and

nakshatras, of course, help a lot, combined with dashas. One can also read

from Jaimini Padas, which seem to create a beautiful spread in this case.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

2009/7/19 ravindramani <ravindramani

 

>

>

> Neelam Ji,

>

> Courtesy, the on going meaningless war of words between two or three

> persons in the Group, I was not able to see your analysis the whole

> Saturday. (Their missiles are flooded my mail box like unsolicited visitors

> at home....I don't know how to avoid them).

>

> Thanks for your response and mentioning the logic behind your analysis. I

> understand your methodology by which you are proceeding in a chart. This

> method is so familier to me and it has the flavour of BVB, Delhi.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

> PS: So far as the feed back is concerned, the person who handed over the

> chart is slightly angry over me why I have posted the chart in Internet. I

> think I am able to convince him that no personal information about the

> person concerned or identity is posted in the Net. The basic purpose is not

> judging her, but to develop a methodology to proceed in such a difficult

> charts. Kindly bear with me till that time.

>

> <%40>,

> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoj (Mouji) ji, Ravindramani ji,

> >

> > A humble cautious attempt, just for testing some points!

> >

> > With an strong mars in lagna and most planets also governed by mars as

> star

> > lord, the lady could be bold and courageous (martian!). She would achieve

> > success in her chosen field, may be an artistic field, music/dance

> > (dhanishtha) and writing skills. She could simultaneously be in public

> > service for a career, and pursuing artistic talents as hobby. The same

> mars,

> > however, is also 22nd DKL and 64 NVL from lagna and moon. It gets 8H in

> > navamsha. She was born in mars/mars/rahu. She might also face constant

> > health problems. Might have been born with some congenital problem.

> >

> > LL Saturn is in own house, but combust in D-1 and neecha in 9H of D-9.

> > Saturn is the final dispositor of all planets. Both benefics are weak and

> > afflicted. The native is mostly driven by malefics. She might be stubborn

> > and used to having her way, may not be caring about the means adopted to

> > achieve an end. Ketu also afflicts all planets.

> >

> > All planets rising closely with lagna, excessive focus on self at all

> levels

> > (PMS) might be challenging for the native on all fronts and life could be

> a

> > roller coaster ride. All planets are combust 8L sun which again indicates

> > frequent ups and downs.

> >

> > High Ashtakvarga score in 11H (54) would make her popular, social and

> > successful, yet a resulting deficiency in all other departments (houses)

> > would keep pulling her down and she may not retain her gains. The social

> > status might come with blemish.

> >

> > Marriage may not be successful. The lady has her own way and the husband

> may

> > not be with neat habits. Karak and 7L both weak and affect lagna. A

> > possibility of having multiple affairs and second marriage also exists.

> >

> > She would have children (2?), but again afflictions to Karak and 5L in

> D-1

> > and D-7 shows deficiency in happiness through children. She might be too

> > self-obsessed to care for children!

> >

> > From 2003, she is running saturn's dasha, which could be a challenging

> > period for her. Saturn transiting in 8H from lagna and moon from 2006,

> could

> > be bad for her health and general well-being. There could be marital

> > disharmony too. Career-wise it may not be bad, but full of mental tension

> > and worries on various accounts. Jupiter moving over natal Jup and Sun

> also

> > shows losses through body, finance, siblings, etc. Tough times for her

> may

> > be!

> >

> > Hope to have feedback on this.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

>

>

>