Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear swee, Perhaps You are searching Hindi name for vaiDUrya. My jeweler is not sure.In a book titled Ratna pradeep written by Dr Gorishanker Kapoor and published by Ranjan publications. I find on page 111 they write vaidurya- lahsuniya( cats EYE) then under name Sanskrit Vaidyura, vidalaksha,abhraraoha, rastuka, meghkhurankur, Balsurya vadurya ratna names are quoted. In Hindi lahsuniya is written The same name is listed in Urdu and Farsi, under English it is cats Eye or Cymophone. Now coming to other details, book states hardness 8.50 specific gravity 3.68 to 3.78 refractive index 1.750 to 1.757 duharavartan ( double refraction) 0.010 Apkiradan 0.015 Chemical name Chrysoberyl. Another Author Narayan dutt srimali on page 120 in book called Jyotish and ratna lists vaidurya in sanskrit in hindi it is lahasuniyaa in english Cats eye. This information is all I could get in Hindi literature. I am yet to check authentic book on gems by Bhaskaranand Lohani a standard work. It is misplaced at the moment. with regards. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Swee Chan Cc: sohamsa ; Monday, December 08, 2008 12:58 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ? Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bivash, Namaste Well spotted!! I spent a while looking for the sanskrit version and finally found it published by Nag Publishers and cross checked with Eastern Booklinkers (sanskrit and English). The English translation from Motilal Banarsidass has to be chucked out the window! I spent years trying to figure out the "english" equivalent of vaiDUrya and thought that it had to be chrysoberyl from the description of the english translation from Motilal Banarsidass's translation stating that it is Lapis Lazuli - like many other translators have done (Eastern Booklinkers also, without exception), but the sanskrit says that is from the "pusparaga" family. I take this as the "corundum" family - which means any of the ruby and sapphires. I am just about done with my article on vaiDUrya for the JD Jan issue. Is this the hindi name? What is the sanskrit name? Hindi name? - My mother tongue is not Hindi. Is yours? Sanskrit - vaiDUrya love, Swee On 8 Dec 2008, at 07:48, Bivaash Ramroop wrote: Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Gurvi, Namaste In your article on Ketu gemstones, you refer to the gem as Vaidurya (Cats eye) which is a variety of chrysoberyl. Is this the hindi name? What is the sanskrit name? Jaya Sita Raama Bivash--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>[Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ? , sohamsa Cc: "" Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:18 PMJaya Jagannatha Dear Chandan, Namaste As per the description given in Chapter 73 Garuda Purana, in the description of Vaidurya, it is distinct to the group of the sapphire (Padmaraga) family. Please correct your info. Anyway, will write an article on the same. love, Swee On 19 Nov 2008, at 12:21, chandan486 wrote: > as per my info , cats eye is referred to as "Vaiduria " or Lehsunia > by the known... > > humble regards, > chandan s. > > > , Swee Chan <swee wrote: >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear Chandan S, >> Namaste >> >>> will wearing a cats eye give me the >>> effects of mangal ? >> >> What is the sanskrit (not hindi) name for "cat's eye"? >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On 18 Nov 2008, at 12:47, chandan486 wrote: >> >>> further more , as (mesha lagna ), lagnesha mangal conj with ketu >>> sitting in the 9th house ... will wearing a cats eye give me the >>> effects of mangal ? or is it only parivartana tht gives 100% >>> opposite effects and yuti simply gives each others effects in the >>> appropriate dasas / bhuktis ? >>> >>> humble regards, >>> chandan s. >>> >>> >>> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jaya Jagannatha >>>> >>>> Dear Maja, >>>> Namaste >>>> >>>> Begging to differ with references: >>>> >>>> The description of the Orange Garnet is to dispel Kali > defects, >>>> which incidentally many describe as Hessonite (Tea to Brown >>> colour >>>> Tourmaline). The Garuda Purana clearly describes the area and > the >>>> type of gem which can only be identified with Garnet, since >>> around >>>> the Narmada river and many other places, Garnets (and not >>>> Tourmalines) are produced besides the shaligrams. >>>> >>>> The dark red gu~nja berry sized coral can bring "mucho >>>> dineros" (abundance in wealth and granaries) whilst Rudhira/ >>>> Bloodstone promises increase in wealth and servants. The "seed" >>> of >>>> the rudhira came from the facial features of bala asura which > was >>>> cast into the Narmada river by Agni deva. Since both Sun and > Mars >>> are >>>> considered to be "Agni", do we take this as Rudhira belonging to >>> the >>>> Sun or to Mars? - the gemstone comes in two tones >>>> >>>> THE TWO NATURAL BENEFICS: >>>> The Padma Purana states that for Jupiter that causes malfeasance >>>> either through transit or a bad combination from one's birth, a >>>> yellow sapphire, two portioned gram (lentil) and yellow garment >>>> should be donated to remove evils. For the other planets like >>> Venus >>>> (another natural benefic that you and others here consider), >>> donate >>>> silver. If in negative transit, donate a white horse, rice, > white >>>> garment, silver, sandalwood and camphor. Of course, the > rendition/ >>>> chanting of Vedic mantras (also stated in Parashara) will > quickly >>>> quell/appease the graha concerned. >>>> >>>> For Saturn, donate a sapphire >>>> Rahu, donate a gomedha (garnet) >>>> >>>> As you can see, there are THREE gemstones from the three planets >>> as >>>> suggested for giving dakshina. >>>> >>>> To conclude: The assumption by some astrologers that Jupiter can >>> only >>>> do good when you wear the Yellow Sapphire is a fallacy. >>>> >>>> >>>> Query: The left and right fingers. Where is it stated in the >>>> shastras? Wearing the bhisma mani round the neck is suggested. >>>> >>>> love, >>>> >>>> Swee >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 Nov 2008, at 23:57, Maja Štrbac wrote: >>>> >>>>> Om Gurave Namah >>>>> >>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaste >>>>> >>>>> I think that answer to your question is yes. Basically, >>> Gemstones >>>>> corresponding tamastic Grahas do carry such vibration, and same >>>>> applies to rajastic and satwik Gemstones/Grahas. But... this is >>>>> just one "layer". Pure structure of Gemstone will not bring >>>>> literally "destructive" behavior to native as one and only >>> effect >>>>> if wearing Mangal/Red Coral is only escape from certain Dosas >>> in >>>>> chart. Final result of wearing a Gemstone is very dependant on >>>>> procedure we follow when choosing it. It depends on purpose of >>>>> Gemstone (even on the hand you are wearing it, so a Gemstone >>> for >>>>> Tamastic/Malefic graha on left hand decreases this type of >>> energy >>>>> and this is standard remedy for Maha Dasas of Malefics). >>>>> >>>>> Few months ago I thought that choosing a Gemstone for native is >>>>> "piece of cake"... Well, not really. It is quite > complicated. >>>>> >>>>> Let's say that basic idea is to avoid prescribing Gemstones for >>>>> Malefic/Tamastic Grahas if possible. Example: If you are Mesh >>> lagna >>>>> (you were mentioning that mangal is Lagnesh in your chart), in >>> that >>>>> case konas are Dhanu and Simha Rasi. If placement of Guru is >>>>> auspicious in your chart, why would you choose to wear Red >>> Coral, >>>>> when you can take Yellow Sapphire instead This mentioned >>> above >>>>> is example of applying just basic rules in prescribing >>> Gemstones. >>>>> On the other hand, in case you follow out this basic procedure >>> in >>>>> someone's chart and you get Red Coral as the only Gemstone you >>> can >>>>> prescribe, would you agree with me that this native can live a >>>>> happy and normal life even without wearing this Gemstone? It >>> is >>>>> not "urgent" to wear it at all. >>>>> >>>>> Yet if we prescribe wearing a Gemstone correspondent to Graha >>> which >>>>> is escape from some terrible Dosas in chart, than this can be >>>>> urgent. For example, if Sukra is lagnesh, or 5th/9th lord and >>>>> braking KSY in someones chart, then wearing a Diamond is more >>> than >>>>> welcome. But if this chart belongs to a person who is living in >>>>> celibacy... In that case, wearing a Diamond is to be avoided >>>>> (increasing rajas is just one of the reasons). Choice is always >>> there. >>>>> >>>>> BTW mantra is always more than enough to remedy certain >>> positions >>>>> in chart, so wearing a Gemstone is never "urgent" as you can >>> read. >>>>> It is a kind of "accessory" which can be of some additional >>> help, >>>>> so spiritual people can simply stick to mantra. It is more than >>>>> enough. >>>>> >>>>> There are even more complicated procedures for prescribing >>>>> Gemstones comparing to those I was mentioning. Friendly advice: >>> if >>>>> you decide to post some more questions on Gemstones, be patient >>>>> until Swee Chan is more included in answering questions on >>> list. >>>>> Trust me, it is worth of waiting >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Maja Strbac >>>>> >>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 11/17/08, chandan486 <wavelogix@> wrote: >>>>> chandan486 <wavelogix@> >>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ? >>>>> >>>>> Monday, November 17, 2008, 3:07 AM >>>>> >>>>> nobody has an answer to this ? please ... !! ) >>>>> >>>>> , "chandan486" >>> <wavelogix@ ..> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ||Aum namo bhagwate Rudraya|| >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> A question just popped up into my mind this morning and > thought >>>>> maybe >>>>>> some of the learned here can give some insights into this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do gems have the power or the tendency to increase tamasic >>> energy >>>>> in >>>>>> the body if the graha associated with that gem itself its >>> tamasic ? >>>>>> >>>>>> For eg , I have Mars as my Lagnesha , so it becomes outmost >>>>> important >>>>>> for me to wear a Red Coral , however Mangal also is a Tamasic >>>>> graha , >>>>>> so when I wear a Red Coral wouldnt the gemstone also increase >>>>> tamasic >>>>>> energy in my body ? since the gemstone is a concentrate form >>> of the >>>>>> graha's innate energy ? >>>>>> >>>>>> If this is the case , then why would anybody wear a gemstone > of >>>>>> tamasic grahas ? neelam for example ... specially if people >>> like me >>>>>> who do spritual practices and are always trying to cultivate >>>>> sattwic >>>>>> energy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also wouldnt wearing A diamond or an Emerald make a person > more >>>>>> rajasic , since Venus and Budh are themselves rajasic .... >>> Diamond >>>>> in >>>>>> this case , wouldnt it increase the desire in a person which >>>>> wouldnt >>>>>> be the effect some one spiritual would want , even though if >>> their >>>>>> chart compels them to wear a diamond .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope you guys get my point .. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please comment , >>>>>> >>>>>> humble regards, >>>>>> Chandan S. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> >>> ~ om tat sat ~ >>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who > said >>> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart >>> reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Dear Swee, I have had the oppurtinity to read an ancient tamil text on gemstones, Vaidurya is being pointed as Cats Eyes.--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Swee Chan <swee[Om Krishna Guru] Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ? Cc: sohamsa , Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 3:28 PM Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bivash, Namaste Well spotted!! I spent a while looking for the sanskrit version and finally found it published by Nag Publishers and cross checked with Eastern Booklinkers (sanskrit and English). The English translation from Motilal Banarsidass has to be chucked out the window! I spent years trying to figure out the "english" equivalent of vaiDUrya and thought that it had to be chrysoberyl from the description of the english translation from Motilal Banarsidass' s translation stating that it is Lapis Lazuli - like many other translators have done (Eastern Booklinkers also, without exception), but the sanskrit says that is from the "pusparaga" family. I take this as the "corundum" family - which means any of the ruby and sapphires. I am just about done with my article on vaiDUrya for the JD Jan issue. Is this the hindi name? What is the sanskrit name? Hindi name? - My mother tongue is not Hindi. Is yours? Sanskrit - vaiDUrya love, Swee On 8 Dec 2008, at 07:48, Bivaash Ramroop wrote: Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Gurvi, Namaste In your article on Ketu gemstones, you refer to the gem as Vaidurya (Cats eye) which is a variety of chrysoberyl. Is this the hindi name? What is the sanskrit name? Jaya Sita Raama Bivash--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>[Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ?, sohamsa@ .comCc: "" <@gro ups.com>Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:18 PMJaya Jagannatha Dear Chandan, Namaste As per the description given in Chapter 73 Garuda Purana, in the description of Vaidurya, it is distinct to the group of the sapphire (Padmaraga) family. Please correct your info. Anyway, will write an article on the same. love, Swee On 19 Nov 2008, at 12:21, chandan486 wrote: > as per my info , cats eye is referred to as "Vaiduria " or Lehsunia > by the known... > > humble regards, > chandan s. > > > , Swee Chan <swee wrote: >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear Chandan S, >> Namaste >> >>> will wearing a cats eye give me the >>> effects of mangal ? >> >> What is the sanskrit (not hindi) name for "cat's eye"? >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On 18 Nov 2008, at 12:47, chandan486 wrote: >> >>> further more , as (mesha lagna ), lagnesha mangal conj with ketu >>> sitting in the 9th house ... will wearing a cats eye give me the >>> effects of mangal ? or is it only parivartana tht gives 100% >>> opposite effects and yuti simply gives each others effects in the >>> appropriate dasas / bhuktis ? >>> >>> humble regards, >>> chandan s. >>> >>> >>> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jaya Jagannatha >>>> >>>> Dear Maja, >>>> Namaste >>>> >>>> Begging to differ with references: >>>> >>>> The description of the Orange Garnet is to dispel Kali > defects, >>>> which incidentally many describe as Hessonite (Tea to Brown >>> colour >>>> Tourmaline). The Garuda Purana clearly describes the area and > the >>>> type of gem which can only be identified with Garnet, since >>> around >>>> the Narmada river and many other places, Garnets (and not >>>> Tourmalines) are produced besides the shaligrams. >>>> >>>> The dark red gu~nja berry sized coral can bring "mucho >>>> dineros" (abundance in wealth and granaries) whilst Rudhira/ >>>> Bloodstone promises increase in wealth and servants. The "seed" >>> of >>>> the rudhira came from the facial features of bala asura which > was >>>> cast into the Narmada river by Agni deva. Since both Sun and > Mars >>> are >>>> considered to be "Agni", do we take this as Rudhira belonging to >>> the >>>> Sun or to Mars? - the gemstone comes in two tones >>>> >>>> THE TWO NATURAL BENEFICS: >>>> The Padma Purana states that for Jupiter that causes malfeasance >>>> either through transit or a bad combination from one's birth, a >>>> yellow sapphire, two portioned gram (lentil) and yellow garment >>>> should be donated to remove evils. For the other planets like >>> Venus >>>> (another natural benefic that you and others here consider), >>> donate >>>> silver. If in negative transit, donate a white horse, rice, > white >>>> garment, silver, sandalwood and camphor. Of course, the > rendition/ >>>> chanting of Vedic mantras (also stated in Parashara) will > quickly >>>> quell/appease the graha concerned. >>>> >>>> For Saturn, donate a sapphire >>>> Rahu, donate a gomedha (garnet) >>>> >>>> As you can see, there are THREE gemstones from the three planets >>> as >>>> suggested for giving dakshina. >>>> >>>> To conclude: The assumption by some astrologers that Jupiter can >>> only >>>> do good when you wear the Yellow Sapphire is a fallacy. >>>> >>>> >>>> Query: The left and right fingers. Where is it stated in the >>>> shastras? Wearing the bhisma mani round the neck is suggested. >>>> >>>> love, >>>> >>>> Swee >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 Nov 2008, at 23:57, Maja ©trbac wrote: >>>> >>>>> Om Gurave Namah >>>>> >>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaste >>>>> >>>>> I think that answer to your question is yes. Basically, >>> Gemstones >>>>> corresponding tamastic Grahas do carry such vibration, and same >>>>> applies to rajastic and satwik Gemstones/Grahas. But... this is >>>>> just one "layer". Pure structure of Gemstone will not bring >>>>> literally "destructive" behavior to native as one and only >>> effect >>>>> if wearing Mangal/Red Coral is only escape from certain Dosas >>> in >>>>> chart. Final result of wearing a Gemstone is very dependant on >>>>> procedure we follow when choosing it. It depends on purpose of >>>>> Gemstone (even on the hand you are wearing it, so a Gemstone >>> for >>>>> Tamastic/Malefic graha on left hand decreases this type of >>> energy >>>>> and this is standard remedy for Maha Dasas of Malefics). >>>>> >>>>> Few months ago I thought that choosing a Gemstone for native is >>>>> "piece of cake"... Well, not really. It is quite > complicated. >>>>> >>>>> Let's say that basic idea is to avoid prescribing Gemstones for >>>>> Malefic/Tamastic Grahas if possible. Example: If you are Mesh >>> lagna >>>>> (you were mentioning that mangal is Lagnesh in your chart), in >>> that >>>>> case konas are Dhanu and Simha Rasi. If placement of Guru is >>>>> auspicious in your chart, why would you choose to wear Red >>> Coral, >>>>> when you can take Yellow Sapphire instead This mentioned >>> above >>>>> is example of applying just basic rules in prescribing >>> Gemstones. >>>>> On the other hand, in case you follow out this basic procedure >>> in >>>>> someone's chart and you get Red Coral as the only Gemstone you >>> can >>>>> prescribe, would you agree with me that this native can live a >>>>> happy and normal life even without wearing this Gemstone? It >>> is >>>>> not "urgent" to wear it at all. >>>>> >>>>> Yet if we prescribe wearing a Gemstone correspondent to Graha >>> which >>>>> is escape from some terrible Dosas in chart, than this can be >>>>> urgent. For example, if Sukra is lagnesh, or 5th/9th lord and >>>>> braking KSY in someones chart, then wearing a Diamond is more >>> than >>>>> welcome. But if this chart belongs to a person who is living in >>>>> celibacy... In that case, wearing a Diamond is to be avoided >>>>> (increasing rajas is just one of the reasons). Choice is always >>> there. >>>>> >>>>> BTW mantra is always more than enough to remedy certain >>> positions >>>>> in chart, so wearing a Gemstone is never "urgent" as you can >>> read. >>>>> It is a kind of "accessory" which can be of some additional >>> help, >>>>> so spiritual people can simply stick to mantra. It is more than >>>>> enough. >>>>> >>>>> There are even more complicated procedures for prescribing >>>>> Gemstones comparing to those I was mentioning. Friendly advice: >>> if >>>>> you decide to post some more questions on Gemstones, be patient >>>>> until Swee Chan is more included in answering questions on >>> list. >>>>> Trust me, it is worth of waiting >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Maja Strbac >>>>> >>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 11/17/08, chandan486 <wavelogix@> wrote: >>>>> chandan486 <wavelogix@> >>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ? >>>>> >>>>> Monday, November 17, 2008, 3:07 AM >>>>> >>>>> nobody has an answer to this ? please ... !! ) >>>>> >>>>> , "chandan486" >>> <wavelogix@ ..> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ||Aum namo bhagwate Rudraya|| >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> A question just popped up into my mind this morning and > thought >>>>> maybe >>>>>> some of the learned here can give some insights into this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do gems have the power or the tendency to increase tamasic >>> energy >>>>> in >>>>>> the body if the graha associated with that gem itself its >>> tamasic ? >>>>>> >>>>>> For eg , I have Mars as my Lagnesha , so it becomes outmost >>>>> important >>>>>> for me to wear a Red Coral , however Mangal also is a Tamasic >>>>> graha , >>>>>> so when I wear a Red Coral wouldnt the gemstone also increase >>>>> tamasic >>>>>> energy in my body ? since the gemstone is a concentrate form >>> of the >>>>>> graha's innate energy ? >>>>>> >>>>>> If this is the case , then why would anybody wear a gemstone > of >>>>>> tamasic grahas ? neelam for example ... specially if people >>> like me >>>>>> who do spritual practices and are always trying to cultivate >>>>> sattwic >>>>>> energy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also wouldnt wearing A diamond or an Emerald make a person > more >>>>>> rajasic , since Venus and Budh are themselves rajasic .... >>> Diamond >>>>> in >>>>>> this case , wouldnt it increase the desire in a person which >>>>> wouldnt >>>>>> be the effect some one spiritual would want , even though if >>> their >>>>>> chart compels them to wear a diamond .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope you guys get my point .. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please comment , >>>>>> >>>>>> humble regards, >>>>>> Chandan S. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>> >>> ~ om tat sat ~ >>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who > said >>> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart >>> reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Prabhu Ganesh,NamasteThe "Cat's Eye effect" is due to the striations in the gemstones. But that is not the point I am making. Due to bad translations, I was lead to believe that it is Chrysoberyl but this is the secondary choice. love,SweeOn 8 Dec 2008, at 19:01, Prabhu Ganesh wrote:Dear Swee,I have had the oppurtinity to read an ancient tamil text on gemstones,Vaidurya is being pointed as Cats Eyes.--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Swee Chan <swee wrote:Swee Chan <swee[Om Krishna Guru] Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ? Cc: sohamsa , Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 3:28 PMJaya JagannathaDear Bivash,NamasteWell spotted!! I spent a while looking for the sanskrit version and finally found it published by Nag Publishers and cross checked with Eastern Booklinkers (sanskrit and English). The English translation from Motilal Banarsidass has to be chucked out the window! I spent years trying to figure out the "english" equivalent of vaiDUrya and thought that it had to be chrysoberyl from the description of the english translation from Motilal Banarsidass' s translation stating that it is Lapis Lazuli - like many other translators have done (Eastern Booklinkers also, without exception), but the sanskrit says that is from the "pusparaga" family. I take this as the "corundum" family - which means any of the ruby and sapphires. I am just about done with my article on vaiDUrya for the JD Jan issue.Is this the hindi name? What is the sanskrit name?Hindi name? - My mother tongue is not Hindi. Is yours?Sanskrit - vaiDUryalove,SweeOn 8 Dec 2008, at 07:48, Bivaash Ramroop wrote:Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Gurvi,Namaste In your article on Ketu gemstones, you refer to the gem as Vaidurya (Cats eye) which is a variety of chrysoberyl. Is this the hindi name? What is the sanskrit name? Jaya Sita RaamaBivash--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>[Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ?To: , sohamsa@ .comCc: "" <@gro ups.com>Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:18 PMJaya Jagannatha Dear Chandan, Namaste As per the description given in Chapter 73 Garuda Purana, in the description of Vaidurya, it is distinct to the group of the sapphire (Padmaraga) family. Please correct your info. Anyway, will write an article on the same. love, Swee On 19 Nov 2008, at 12:21, chandan486 wrote: > as per my info , cats eye is referred to as "Vaiduria " or Lehsunia > by the known... > > humble regards, > chandan s. > > > , Swee Chan <swee wrote: >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear Chandan S, >> Namaste >> >>> will wearing a cats eye give me the >>> effects of mangal ? >> >> What is the sanskrit (not hindi) name for "cat's eye"? >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On 18 Nov 2008, at 12:47, chandan486 wrote: >> >>> further more , as (mesha lagna ), lagnesha mangal conj with ketu >>> sitting in the 9th house ... will wearing a cats eye give me the >>> effects of mangal ? or is it only parivartana tht gives 100% >>> opposite effects and yuti simply gives each others effects in the >>> appropriate dasas / bhuktis ? >>> >>> humble regards, >>> chandan s. >>> >>> >>> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jaya Jagannatha >>>> >>>> Dear Maja, >>>> Namaste >>>> >>>> Begging to differ with references: >>>> >>>> The description of the Orange Garnet is to dispel Kali > defects, >>>> which incidentally many describe as Hessonite (Tea to Brown >>> colour >>>> Tourmaline). The Garuda Purana clearly describes the area and > the >>>> type of gem which can only be identified with Garnet, since >>> around >>>> the Narmada river and many other places, Garnets (and not >>>> Tourmalines) are produced besides the shaligrams. >>>> >>>> The dark red gu~nja berry sized coral can bring "mucho >>>> dineros" (abundance in wealth and granaries) whilst Rudhira/ >>>> Bloodstone promises increase in wealth and servants. The "seed" >>> of >>>> the rudhira came from the facial features of bala asura which > was >>>> cast into the Narmada river by Agni deva. Since both Sun and > Mars >>> are >>>> considered to be "Agni", do we take this as Rudhira belonging to >>> the >>>> Sun or to Mars? - the gemstone comes in two tones >>>> >>>> THE TWO NATURAL BENEFICS: >>>> The Padma Purana states that for Jupiter that causes malfeasance >>>> either through transit or a bad combination from one's birth, a >>>> yellow sapphire, two portioned gram (lentil) and yellow garment >>>> should be donated to remove evils. For the other planets like >>> Venus >>>> (another natural benefic that you and others here consider), >>> donate >>>> silver. If in negative transit, donate a white horse, rice, > white >>>> garment, silver, sandalwood and camphor. Of course, the > rendition/ >>>> chanting of Vedic mantras (also stated in Parashara) will > quickly >>>> quell/appease the graha concerned. >>>> >>>> For Saturn, donate a sapphire >>>> Rahu, donate a gomedha (garnet) >>>> >>>> As you can see, there are THREE gemstones from the three planets >>> as >>>> suggested for giving dakshina. >>>> >>>> To conclude: The assumption by some astrologers that Jupiter can >>> only >>>> do good when you wear the Yellow Sapphire is a fallacy. >>>> >>>> >>>> Query: The left and right fingers. Where is it stated in the >>>> shastras? Wearing the bhisma mani round the neck is suggested. >>>> >>>> love, >>>> >>>> Swee >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 Nov 2008, at 23:57, Maja Štrbac wrote: >>>> >>>>> Om Gurave Namah >>>>> >>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaste >>>>> >>>>> I think that answer to your question is yes. Basically, >>> Gemstones >>>>> corresponding tamastic Grahas do carry such vibration, and same >>>>> applies to rajastic and satwik Gemstones/Grahas. But... this is >>>>> just one "layer". Pure structure of Gemstone will not bring >>>>> literally "destructive" behavior to native as one and only >>> effect >>>>> if wearing Mangal/Red Coral is only escape from certain Dosas >>> in >>>>> chart. Final result of wearing a Gemstone is very dependant on >>>>> procedure we follow when choosing it. It depends on purpose of >>>>> Gemstone (even on the hand you are wearing it, so a Gemstone >>> for >>>>> Tamastic/Malefic graha on left hand decreases this type of >>> energy >>>>> and this is standard remedy for Maha Dasas of Malefics). >>>>> >>>>> Few months ago I thought that choosing a Gemstone for native is >>>>> "piece of cake"... Well, not really. It is quite > complicated. >>>>> >>>>> Let's say that basic idea is to avoid prescribing Gemstones for >>>>> Malefic/Tamastic Grahas if possible. Example: If you are Mesh >>> lagna >>>>> (you were mentioning that mangal is Lagnesh in your chart), in >>> that >>>>> case konas are Dhanu and Simha Rasi. If placement of Guru is >>>>> auspicious in your chart, why would you choose to wear Red >>> Coral, >>>>> when you can take Yellow Sapphire instead This mentioned >>> above >>>>> is example of applying just basic rules in prescribing >>> Gemstones. >>>>> On the other hand, in case you follow out this basic procedure >>> in >>>>> someone's chart and you get Red Coral as the only Gemstone you >>> can >>>>> prescribe, would you agree with me that this native can live a >>>>> happy and normal life even without wearing this Gemstone? It >>> is >>>>> not "urgent" to wear it at all. >>>>> >>>>> Yet if we prescribe wearing a Gemstone correspondent to Graha >>> which >>>>> is escape from some terrible Dosas in chart, than this can be >>>>> urgent. For example, if Sukra is lagnesh, or 5th/9th lord and >>>>> braking KSY in someones chart, then wearing a Diamond is more >>> than >>>>> welcome. But if this chart belongs to a person who is living in >>>>> celibacy... In that case, wearing a Diamond is to be avoided >>>>> (increasing rajas is just one of the reasons). Choice is always >>> there. >>>>> >>>>> BTW mantra is always more than enough to remedy certain >>> positions >>>>> in chart, so wearing a Gemstone is never "urgent" as you can >>> read. >>>>> It is a kind of "accessory" which can be of some additional >>> help, >>>>> so spiritual people can simply stick to mantra. It is more than >>>>> enough. >>>>> >>>>> There are even more complicated procedures for prescribing >>>>> Gemstones comparing to those I was mentioning. Friendly advice: >>> if >>>>> you decide to post some more questions on Gemstones, be patient >>>>> until Swee Chan is more included in answering questions on >>> list. >>>>> Trust me, it is worth of waiting >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Maja Strbac >>>>> >>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 11/17/08, chandan486 <wavelogix@> wrote: >>>>> chandan486 <wavelogix@> >>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Tamasic Energy of a Gem Stone ? >>>>> >>>>> Monday, November 17, 2008, 3:07 AM >>>>> >>>>> nobody has an answer to this ? please ... !! ) >>>>> >>>>> , "chandan486" >>> <wavelogix@ ..> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ||Aum namo bhagwate Rudraya|| >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> A question just popped up into my mind this morning and > thought >>>>> maybe >>>>>> some of the learned here can give some insights into this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do gems have the power or the tendency to increase tamasic >>> energy >>>>> in >>>>>> the body if the graha associated with that gem itself its >>> tamasic ? >>>>>> >>>>>> For eg , I have Mars as my Lagnesha , so it becomes outmost >>>>> important >>>>>> for me to wear a Red Coral , however Mangal also is a Tamasic >>>>> graha , >>>>>> so when I wear a Red Coral wouldnt the gemstone also increase >>>>> tamasic >>>>>> energy in my body ? since the gemstone is a concentrate form >>> of the >>>>>> graha's innate energy ? >>>>>> >>>>>> If this is the case , then why would anybody wear a gemstone > of >>>>>> tamasic grahas ? neelam for example ... specially if people >>> like me >>>>>> who do spritual practices and are always trying to cultivate >>>>> sattwic >>>>>> energy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also wouldnt wearing A diamond or an Emerald make a person > more >>>>>> rajasic , since Venus and Budh are themselves rajasic .... >>> Diamond >>>>> in >>>>>> this case , wouldnt it increase the desire in a person which >>>>> wouldnt >>>>>> be the effect some one spiritual would want , even though if >>> their >>>>>> chart compels them to wear a diamond .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope you guys get my point .. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please comment , >>>>>> >>>>>> humble regards, >>>>>> Chandan S. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>> >>> ~ om tat sat ~ >>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who > said >>> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart >>> reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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