RE: Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

> ***

>

> [

] On

> Behalf Of sunilsingh20022001

> 17 February 2006 18:34

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

>

> Respected Visti Ji,

> I am facing worst time of my life.I am out of job since

> 2003.I tried my best but I could not have found the new job till

> the date.In last year I was advised by an astrologer that in my

> chart there is curse of deity (badhakesh sun in 8th house aspected

> by mars).So I donated idol of Ram after Pranpratishtha in a

> temple.He told me that no gem will work as 4th and 5th lord Saturn

> is debilitated in 7th.9th lord mercury is in 8th and lagna lord

> venus in 6th house.

> I worship regularly five deities (Ganesh,Sun,Shiv,Vishnu and

> Durga).I observe fasting on full moon days (not satyanarayana

> vrat).But no remedy seems to work. Probably my method is not

> correct.

> Please analyze my horoscope,whether there is any ray of hope and

> what is stored in my future. Please suggest remedies to get rid of

> my problem.I am really broken.

> My Birth Details- 27th May 1969,T.O.B 16.05 IST,Delhi (India)

>

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

>

February 20, 2006

+ sri gurave namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

Jyotisa Shisya [achyutagaddi] Monday, February 20, 2006 3:10 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Visti, namaste

Thanks for sharing Sanjay's recent teachings at the Delhi conference. I have some questions: A long time back, Narasimha taught that the Jyotirlinga mantra should be derived as follows for example, with reference to Mahakaaleswar jyotirlinga:-

||om namasshivaaya namo mahakaaleswaraaya||

In your mail, the mantra is given as

||om namah shivaaya namah mahakaaleswaraaya||

In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another version reads as

||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah||

which was labelled as the Uttama (or best) mantra for Mahakaal. I understand the last three words are bijas however.

Can all these forms be used for worship or is there any specific differentiation? And where can I find the bijas for the other jyotirlingas? In what situations are the use of bijas indicated?

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Visti,

Thank you for sharing Sanjayji's teaching with us. This sounds similar to recommendation to worship Dharma Devta. What is the basic difference between worshipping vishnuavatara representing the planet and forms of Shiva represented by Jyotirlinga signified by a rashi?

Devtas are selected based on planets placed or lords in case there are no planets placed in the house. In case of Jyotirlingas focus is on planets that get exalted and not the lords, why? ( e.g. Vishwanatha is the jyotirlinga for Ketu graha and Sagittarius rashi.)

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[ ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenSaturday, February 18, 2006 9:16 AM Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Twinkle, Namaskar

First you need to learn the mapping of the Jyotirlinga to the signs. I have given this below in a south-indian style (guru chakra)... try to learn this by hand.

+--------------+

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| | | |

| Kedarnatha| | Omkaresha |

| | | |

|-----------| Jyotilinga |-----------|

| | | |

|Bhimashankara |Vaidyanatha|

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

Jyotirlinga Rasi – taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath in Delhi 2006.

So first thing is to pick the MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga for yourself, which will constantly shine on your face and bring you name, fame, health and intelligence, etc. This is based on the Moon and Arudha lagna.

Here are the steps: Compare the KENDRA from the Chandra rasi, and TRIKONA from the Arudha Lagna rasi, and see which sign is COMMON in these two groups.

Example: For Moon in Vrshabha, the fixed signs are kendra, so the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed sign. Now if Arudha lagna is in Simha, then the Jyotirlinga must be an agni rasi (Mesha, Simha and Dhanus). So the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed-agni rasi. This becomes Simha rasi, as its both a fixed sign and an agni sign. So the Jyotirlinga would be Vaidyanatha, as this corresponds to Simha.

This is the Jyotirlinga you can worship throughout life to have succes in life and gain your objective. The specific effects mentioned are: removal of the sins of last births and rememberance of past lives. Ability to see God/attain devatadarshana, and more...

How to worship?

All Jyotirlingas are forms of Shiva, and we are to worship the Jyotirlinga with the Isana Shadakshari mantra. The parampara teaches that this should be done by reciting the Isana shadakshari, adding 'namah' and then the name of the jyotirlinga.

For example: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah "Vaidyanathaaya"..

Misc.

For different purposes, the grahas are mapped to these rasis based on their exaltation sign. I.e. For Venus its Tryambakeshvara, as Venus gets exalted in Pisces, where Tryambakeshvara Jyotirlinga sits. So if you wanted to specifically remedy Venus, you could advise Tryambakeshvara IF you find that becoming needful in the chart. Generally because the atmakaraka is like shiva, worship of the Jyotirlinga of atmakaraka-graha can give great strength to face difficult times or even help you adapt to big changes.

Now i expect you to teach this to everyone who asks in the future... or merely keep this mail saved somewhere for future references.

For more, expect to see an article by Pt. Sanjay Rath in the next Jyotish Digest.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

On Behalf Of Twinkle Vijaywargiya 18 February 2006 14:38 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

dear vistiji!

how do we decide on the jyotirlinga which one need to worship??in

this case i can gather that for brahman shapa we need to worship

rameshwara jyotirlinga as worshiped by lord rama .pls enlighten me on

this subject.

thanx

regards

twinkle

--- Visti Larsen <visti > wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> Indeed your karmas have showered a great deal of obstacles on you.

> The

> problems excalated from July 2002 and gave you a great shock after

> May

> 2003-March 2004.

> Since January 2005 a change has occured, but only barely as you are

> still

> not able to do your karma yoga, and have created alot of financial

> insecurity since Jan-Nov 2005. A change has occured in the last few

> months,

> and you are rethinking your life and approach. Hang in there.

> All this is using narayana dasa.

> The main problem in your chart is not the Tattva Badhaka in the

> eighth house

> (which does not require the donation of an idol) but the Brahmin

> shaap in

> the twelfth house.

> The way out is to worship Shiva as the Rameshvara Jyotirlinga,

> which will

> not only life you out of the curse, but can also grant you a new

> job.

> The mantra is: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah Rameshvaraaya. This should

> be done

> for atleast 5 malas a day. Just do this for 40 days and see the

> results,

> then let us know. You can do this instead of the shiva mantra you

> normally

> practice.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> ***

>

> [ ] On

> Behalf Of sunilsingh20022001

> 17 February 2006 18:34

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

>

> Respected Visti Ji,

> I am facing worst time of my life.I am out of job since

> 2003.I tried my best but I could not have found the new job till

> the date.In last year I was advised by an astrologer that in my

> chart there is curse of deity (badhakesh sun in 8th house aspected

> by mars).So I donated idol of Ram after Pranpratishtha in a

> temple.He told me that no gem will work as 4th and 5th lord Saturn

> is debilitated in 7th.9th lord mercury is in 8th and lagna lord

> venus in 6th house.

> I worship regularly five deities (Ganesh,Sun,Shiv,Vishnu and

> Durga).I observe fasting on full moon days (not satyanarayana

> vrat).But no remedy seems to work. Probably my method is not

> correct.

> Please analyze my horoscope,whether there is any ray of hope and

> what is stored in my future. Please suggest remedies to get rid of

> my problem.I am really broken.

> My Birth Details- 27th May 1969,T.O.B 16.05 IST,Delhi (India)

>

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

>

February 20, 2006

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Hari and List, Namaskar

When there

is talk of beejas, it is important that they require diksha, especially in this

kali yuga, whereas everyone can do the nama-mantras, i.e. offering namaskar to

the deity.

The concept

of adding beejas to the jyotirlinga mantras emerged after 2004, when i recieved

the diksha of one such mantra from the kakatpur (please correct my spelling) seat

of Sri Achyuta Dasa. That was a mantra with the beejas of the mrityunjaya. Since

then some of us did some deep thinking to figure out the other beejas of the jyotirlingas!

However, Sanjayji

pointing out the need for having diksha of the beejas to make them effective, went

back to his original learning from his Guru and gave the mantras without the

beejas. This is safe and works for all.

Now this

leaves us left with two mantras from the list that you have mentioned. It is

important to point out that the rishis were not playing around when they gave

the original mantra as Om Namah Shivaaya. Each akshara is vital, and the

bhedana in the end of ‘namaH’ should not be omitted for the ishana

shadakshari. Hence any gramatical conclusion based on this mantra should be

ignored, otherwise the purpose of the mantra literally gets watered down.

Now, we

could get into an argument about how the mantra should actually be pronounced

or written from various perspectives, but i would personally stick to the

Shadakshara stotra and the tradition in this regard.

The

tradition gives the mantra as: “Om Namah Shivaaya Namah (jyotirlinga-name)”.

This is advised.

Now Ramesh

posed a question about effects of worshipping Jyotirlinga vs. Vishnu... First i

would recommend studying Sanjayjis paper on Dasamahavidya, wherein he first

talks about the concept of the Jyotirlinga, please read this first and then we

can talk.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath

20 February 2006 11:33

sohamsa

RE: Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

+ sri gurave

namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation

was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this

now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram

Hospital Road, New Delhi

110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

Jyotisa

Shisya [achyutagaddi]

Monday, February 20, 2006 3:10 PM

sohamsa

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Visti, namaste

Thanks for sharing Sanjay's recent teachings at the Delhi conference. I

have some questions: A long time back, Narasimha taught that the

Jyotirlinga mantra should be derived as follows for example, with reference to

Mahakaaleswar jyotirlinga:-

||om namasshivaaya namo mahakaaleswaraaya||

In your mail, the mantra is given as

||om namah shivaaya namah mahakaaleswaraaya||

In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another

version reads as

||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah||

which was labelled as the Uttama (or best) mantra for

Mahakaal. I understand the last three words are bijas however.

Can all these forms be used for worship or is there any

specific differentiation? And where can I find the bijas for the other

jyotirlingas? In what situations are the use of bijas indicated?

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Ramesh F.

Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani

wrote:

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Visti,

Thank you for sharing Sanjayji's

teaching with us. This sounds similar to recommendation to worship Dharma

Devta. What is the basic difference between worshipping vishnuavatara

representing the planet and forms of Shiva represented by Jyotirlinga

signified by a rashi?

Devtas are selected based on planets

placed or lords in case there are no planets placed in the house. In case of

Jyotirlingas focus is on planets that get exalted and not the lords, why? (

e.g. Vishwanatha is the jyotirlinga for Ketu graha and Sagittarius rashi.)

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[

] On Behalf

Of Visti Larsen

Saturday, February 18, 2006

9:16 AM

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Twinkle, Namaskar

First you need to learn the

mapping of the Jyotirlinga to the signs. I have given this below in a

south-indian style (guru chakra)... try to learn this by hand.

+--------------+

|

| |

| Tryambaka |Rameshvara | Somanatha |

Nageshvara|

|

| |

|

| |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|

| |

|

| |

|

Kedarnatha|

| Omkaresha |

|

| |

|

| |

|-----------|

Jyotilinga |-----------|

|

| |

|

| |

|Bhimashankara

|Vaidyanatha|

|

| |

|

| |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|

| |

|

| |

|

Malika- |

|Vishvanatha|Ghrshanesha|Mahakalesha|

arjuna |

|

| |

|

| |

+--------------+

Jyotirlinga Rasi –

taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath in Delhi 2006.

So first thing is to pick

the MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga for yourself, which will constantly shine on

your face and bring you name, fame, health and intelligence, etc. This is based

on the Moon and Arudha lagna.

Here are the steps: Compare

the KENDRA from the Chandra rasi, and TRIKONA from the Arudha Lagna rasi, and

see which sign is COMMON in these two groups.

Example: For Moon in

Vrshabha, the fixed signs are kendra, so the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed sign.

Now if Arudha lagna is in Simha, then the Jyotirlinga must be an agni rasi

(Mesha, Simha and Dhanus). So the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed-agni rasi. This

becomes Simha rasi, as its both a fixed sign and an agni sign. So the

Jyotirlinga would be Vaidyanatha, as this corresponds to Simha.

This is the Jyotirlinga you

can worship throughout life to have succes in life and gain your objective. The

specific effects mentioned are: removal of the sins of last births and

rememberance of past lives. Ability to see God/attain devatadarshana, and

more...

How to worship?

All Jyotirlingas are forms

of Shiva, and we are to worship the Jyotirlinga with the Isana Shadakshari

mantra. The parampara teaches that this should be done by reciting the Isana

shadakshari, adding 'namah' and then the name of the jyotirlinga.

For example: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah " Vaidyanathaaya " ..

Misc.

For different purposes, the

grahas are mapped to these rasis based on their exaltation sign. I.e. For Venus

its Tryambakeshvara, as Venus gets exalted in Pisces, where Tryambakeshvara

Jyotirlinga sits. So if you wanted to specifically remedy Venus, you could

advise Tryambakeshvara IF you find that becoming needful in the chart.

Generally because the atmakaraka is like shiva, worship of the Jyotirlinga of

atmakaraka-graha can give great strength to face difficult times or even help

you adapt to big changes.

Now i expect you to teach

this to everyone who asks in the future... or merely keep this mail saved

somewhere for future references.

For more, expect to see an

article by Pt. Sanjay Rath in the next Jyotish Digest.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles

visit:

***

On Behalf Of Twinkle Vijaywargiya

18 February 2006 14:38

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please

Help

dear vistiji!

how do we decide on the

jyotirlinga which one need to worship??in

this case i can gather that

for brahman shapa we need to worship

rameshwara jyotirlinga as

worshiped by lord rama .pls enlighten me on

this subject.

thanx

regards

twinkle

--- Visti Larsen <visti > wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> Indeed your karmas

have showered a great deal of obstacles on you.

> The

> problems excalated

from July 2002 and gave you a great shock after

> May

> 2003-March 2004.

> Since January 2005 a

change has occured, but only barely as you are

> still

> not able to do your

karma yoga, and have created alot of financial

> insecurity since

Jan-Nov 2005. A change has occured in the last few

> months,

> and you are rethinking

your life and approach. Hang in there.

> All this is using

narayana dasa.

> The main problem in

your chart is not the Tattva Badhaka in the

> eighth house

> (which does not

require the donation of an idol) but the Brahmin

> shaap in

> the twelfth house.

> The way out is to

worship Shiva as the Rameshvara Jyotirlinga,

> which will

> not only life you out

of the curse, but can also grant you a new

> job.

> The mantra is: Om

Namah Shivaaya Namah Rameshvaraaya. This should

> be done

> for atleast 5 malas a

day. Just do this for 40 days and see the

> results,

> then let us know. You

can do this instead of the shiva mantra you

> normally

> practice.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and

articles visit:

> ***

>

> -----Original

Message-----

>

> [

] On

> Behalf Of

sunilsingh20022001

> 17 February 2006

18:34

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

>

> Respected Visti Ji,

>

I am facing

worst time of my life.I am out of job since

> 2003.I tried my

best but I could not have found the new job till

> the date.In last year

I was advised by an astrologer that in my

> chart there is curse

of deity (badhakesh sun in 8th house aspected

> by mars).So I donated

idol of Ram after Pranpratishtha in a

> temple.He told me that

no gem will work as 4th and 5th lord Saturn

> is debilitated in

7th.9th lord mercury is in 8th and lagna lord

> venus in 6th house.

> I worship regularly

five deities (Ganesh,Sun,Shiv,Vishnu and

> Durga).I observe

fasting on full moon days (not satyanarayana

> vrat).But no remedy

seems to work. Probably my method is not

> correct.

> Please analyze my

horoscope,whether there is any ray of hope and

> what is stored in my

future. Please suggest remedies to get rid of

> my problem.I am really

broken.

> My Birth Details- 27th

May 1969,T.O.B 16.05 IST,Delhi (India)

>

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for

maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite

the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become

Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> human stomach should

not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity

in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

>

February 20, 2006

Namaskaar Sri HariIf I remember correctly, Sri Sanjay Rath

talked about Jyotirlinga Namah Mantras and the mantra that he gave for

Mahakaal Jyotirlinga was: " Om Namah Sivaaya Namah Kalesvaraya "

Others may corrrect me if I have made a mistake. I was at the conference and remember this being said.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 2/20/06,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Hari and List, Namaskar

When there

is talk of beejas, it is important that they require diksha, especially in this

kali yuga, whereas everyone can do the nama-mantras, i.e. offering namaskar to

the deity.

The concept

of adding beejas to the jyotirlinga mantras emerged after 2004, when i recieved

the diksha of one such mantra from the kakatpur (please correct my spelling) seat

of Sri Achyuta Dasa. That was a mantra with the beejas of the mrityunjaya. Since

then some of us did some deep thinking to figure out the other beejas of the jyotirlingas!

However, Sanjayji

pointing out the need for having diksha of the beejas to make them effective, went

back to his original learning from his Guru and gave the mantras without the

beejas. This is safe and works for all.

Now this

leaves us left with two mantras from the list that you have mentioned. It is

important to point out that the rishis were not playing around when they gave

the original mantra as Om Namah Shivaaya. Each akshara is vital, and the

bhedana in the end of 'namaH' should not be omitted for the ishana

shadakshari. Hence any gramatical conclusion based on this mantra should be

ignored, otherwise the purpose of the mantra literally gets watered down.

Now, we

could get into an argument about how the mantra should actually be pronounced

or written from various perspectives, but i would personally stick to the

Shadakshara stotra and the tradition in this regard.

The

tradition gives the mantra as: "Om Namah Shivaaya Namah (jyotirlinga-name)".

This is advised.

Now Ramesh

posed a question about effects of worshipping Jyotirlinga vs. Vishnu... First i

would recommend studying Sanjayjis paper on Dasamahavidya, wherein he first

talks about the concept of the Jyotirlinga, please read this first and then we

can talk.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or

http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [

sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath

20 February 2006 11:33

sohamsa

RE: Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

+ sri gurave

namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation

was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this

now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages:

http://srath.com

http://.org

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram

Hospital Road, New Delhi

110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

Jyotisa

Shisya [achyutagaddi]

Monday, February 20, 2006 3:10 PM

sohamsa

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Visti, namaste

Thanks for sharing Sanjay's recent teachings at the Delhi conference. I

have some questions: A long time back, Narasimha taught that the

Jyotirlinga mantra should be derived as follows for example, with reference to

Mahakaaleswar jyotirlinga:-

||om namasshivaaya namo mahakaaleswaraaya||

In your mail, the mantra is given as

||om namah shivaaya namah mahakaaleswaraaya||

In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another

version reads as

||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah||

which was labelled as the Uttama (or best) mantra for

Mahakaal. I understand the last three words are bijas however.

Can all these forms be used for worship or is there any

specific differentiation? And where can I find the bijas for the other

jyotirlingas? In what situations are the use of bijas indicated?

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Ramesh F.

Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani

wrote:

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Visti,

Thank you for sharing Sanjayji's

teaching with us. This sounds similar to recommendation to worship Dharma

Devta. What is the basic difference between worshipping vishnuavatara

representing the planet and forms of Shiva represented by Jyotirlinga

signified by a rashi?

Devtas are selected based on planets

placed or lords in case there are no planets placed in the house. In case of

Jyotirlingas focus is on planets that get exalted and not the lords, why? (

e.g. Vishwanatha is the jyotirlinga for Ketu graha and Sagittarius rashi.)

Best Wishes

,

Ramesh

[

] On Behalf

Of Visti Larsen

Saturday, February 18, 2006

9:16 AM

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Twinkle, Namaskar

First you need to learn the

mapping of the Jyotirlinga to the signs. I have given this below in a

south-indian style (guru chakra)... try to learn this by hand.

+--------------+

|

| |

| Tryambaka |Rameshvara | Somanatha |

Nageshvara|

|

| |

|

| |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|

| |

|

| |

|

Kedarnatha|

| Omkaresha |

|

| |

|

| |

|-----------|

Jyotilinga |-----------|

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|Bhimashankara

|Vaidyanatha|

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|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

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Malika- |

|Vishvanatha|Ghrshanesha|Mahakalesha|

arjuna |

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+--------------+

Jyotirlinga Rasi –

taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath in Delhi 2006.

So first thing is to pick

the MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga for yourself, which will constantly shine on

your face and bring you name, fame, health and intelligence, etc. This is based

on the Moon and Arudha lagna.

Here are the steps: Compare

the KENDRA from the Chandra rasi, and TRIKONA from the Arudha Lagna rasi, and

see which sign is COMMON in these two groups.

Example: For Moon in

Vrshabha, the fixed signs are kendra, so the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed sign.

Now if Arudha lagna is in Simha, then the Jyotirlinga must be an agni rasi

(Mesha, Simha and Dhanus). So the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed-agni rasi. This

becomes Simha rasi, as its both a fixed sign and an agni sign. So the

Jyotirlinga would be Vaidyanatha, as this corresponds to Simha.

This is the Jyotirlinga you

can worship throughout life to have succes in life and gain your objective. The

specific effects mentioned are: removal of the sins of last births and

rememberance of past lives. Ability to see God/attain devatadarshana, and

more...

How to worship?

All Jyotirlingas are forms

of Shiva, and we are to worship the Jyotirlinga with the Isana Shadakshari

mantra. The parampara teaches that this should be done by reciting the Isana

shadakshari, adding 'namah' and then the name of the jyotirlinga.

For example: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah " Vaidyanathaaya " ..

Misc.

For different purposes, the

grahas are mapped to these rasis based on their exaltation sign. I.e. For Venus

its Tryambakeshvara, as Venus gets exalted in Pisces, where Tryambakeshvara

Jyotirlinga sits. So if you wanted to specifically remedy Venus, you could

advise Tryambakeshvara IF you find that becoming needful in the chart.

Generally because the atmakaraka is like shiva, worship of the Jyotirlinga of

atmakaraka-graha can give great strength to face difficult times or even help

you adapt to big changes.

Now i expect you to teach

this to everyone who asks in the future... or merely keep this mail saved

somewhere for future references.

For more, expect to see an

article by Pt. Sanjay Rath in the next Jyotish Digest.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles

visit:

http://srigaruda.com

or http://astrovisti.com

***

On Behalf Of Twinkle Vijaywargiya

18 February 2006 14:38

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please

Help

dear vistiji!

how do we decide on the

jyotirlinga which one need to worship??in

this case i can gather that

for brahman shapa we need to worship

rameshwara jyotirlinga as

worshiped by lord rama .pls enlighten me on

this subject.

thanx

regards

twinkle

--- Visti Larsen <

visti > wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> Indeed your karmas

have showered a great deal of obstacles on you.

> The

> problems excalated

from July 2002 and gave you a great shock after

> May

> 2003-March 2004.

> Since January 2005 a

change has occured, but only barely as you are

> still

> not able to do your

karma yoga, and have created alot of financial

> insecurity since

Jan-Nov 2005. A change has occured in the last few

> months,

> and you are rethinking

your life and approach. Hang in there.

> All this is using

narayana dasa.

> The main problem in

your chart is not the Tattva Badhaka in the

> eighth house

> (which does not

require the donation of an idol) but the Brahmin

> shaap in

> the twelfth house.

> The way out is to

worship Shiva as the Rameshvara Jyotirlinga,

> which will

> not only life you out

of the curse, but can also grant you a new

> job.

> The mantra is: Om

Namah Shivaaya Namah Rameshvaraaya. This should

> be done

> for atleast 5 malas a

day. Just do this for 40 days and see the

> results,

> then let us know. You

can do this instead of the shiva mantra you

> normally

> practice.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and

articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

or http://astrovisti.com

> ***

>

> -----Original

Message-----

>

> [

] On

> Behalf Of

sunilsingh20022001

> 17 February 2006

18:34

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help

>

> Respected Visti Ji,

>

I am facing

worst time of my life.I am out of job since

> 2003.I tried my

best but I could not have found the new job till

> the date.In last year

I was advised by an astrologer that in my

> chart there is curse

of deity (badhakesh sun in 8th house aspected

> by mars).So I donated

idol of Ram after Pranpratishtha in a

> temple.He told me that

no gem will work as 4th and 5th lord Saturn

> is debilitated in

7th.9th lord mercury is in 8th and lagna lord

> venus in 6th house.

> I worship regularly

five deities (Ganesh,Sun,Shiv,Vishnu and

> Durga).I observe

fasting on full moon days (not satyanarayana

> vrat).But no remedy

seems to work. Probably my method is not

> correct.

> Please analyze my

horoscope,whether there is any ray of hope and

> what is stored in my

future. Please suggest remedies to get rid of

> my problem.I am really

broken.

> My Birth Details- 27th

May 1969,T.O.B 16.05 IST,Delhi (India)

>

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for

maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite

the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become

Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> human stomach should

not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity

in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

>

February 21, 2006

|om|

Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the conference! I remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the Tryambakeswar Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin to understand your logic at that time.

Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about diksha for bijas is accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental concept, bijas can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only. This is best illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into origin...a small shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the King of Ujjayani (Ujjain) and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble from the ground & started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother was aghast at what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it away. Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling column of light at that place, which was seen from afar....the point is that the jyotirlingas are about the light of knowledge inside everyone and hence an exception may be made in this case. However should this argument be specious, I think that the advice you received from Kakatpur Achyuta Gaddi is indicating that there is a need to groom diksha Gurus also in SJC apart from siksha (teaching) Gurus currently. From what little Sanjay told me at Singapore, I understand that bijas are to be added only when the graha is debilitated or in a very weak position.

Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a very fine discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly, I think its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

+ sri gurave namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com

http://.org

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

February 21, 2006

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Hari,

Namaste.

In the story of Mahakaleshwar, the shepherd boy had innocent and

implicit devotion, which was untainted by any material desires...if we

also have that kind of faith, we too can do beejakshara japam without

initiation. In Devi Bhagavatam, it is mentioned that a boy had done

the japa of " Aim " beeja without knowing or desiring the boon of great

knowledge that beejakshara can bestow. That boy had ofcourse been

blessed with that knowledge by Mother. In such cases, perhaps God

Himself is the Guru.

But for those people who seek some material relief from their

religious endeavours, I feel deeksha by a competent guru, who can

guide them through the intricacies of japam/sadhana, is necessary.

In other words, nish-kaama worship needs no formal grounding, while

sa-kaama worship does require initiation to give full results.

Just my two cents:--))

regards,

Lakshmi

sohamsa , " Jyotisa Shisya " <achyutagaddi wrote:

>

> |om|

> Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

>

> Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the conference! I

> remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the Tryambakeswar

> Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin to

understand

> your logic at that time.

>

> Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about diksha for

bijas is

> accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental concept,

bijas

> can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only. This is

best

> illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into origin...a

small

> shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the King of Ujjayani

> (Ujjain) and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble

from the

> ground & started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother

> was aghast at what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it

> away. Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling

column of

> light at that place, which was seen from afar....the point is that the

> jyotirlingas are about the light of knowledge inside everyone and

hence an

> exception may be made in this case. However should this argument be

> specious, I think that the advice you received from Kakatpur Achyuta

> Gaddi is indicating that there is a need to groom diksha Gurus also in

> SJC apart from siksha (teaching) Gurus currently. From what little

Sanjay

> told me at Singapore, I understand that bijas are to be added only

when the

> graha is debilitated or in a very weak position.

>

> Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a very fine

> discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly,

I think

> its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

> >

> > + sri gurave namah +

> > Dear Hari

> > This question was asked at the conference and explanation was

given...lets

> > see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now.

> > With best wishes & warm regards,

> > Yours truly

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com

> > Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

> > Phone: +91.11.25717162

> > -

> >

>

February 21, 2006

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Hari,

Namaste

This is

what I recall from the lecture:

The tripod

begins with Jupiter on the lagna, Sun is the Atmakaraka and Moon is the Arudha

Lagna. The power of the Jyotirlinga gives light to the person and opens the Third

Eye. The Jyotirlinga has the power to exalt all the planets and removes curses

where that graha is involved.

The mantra

for the 1st, 2nd houses etc., are:

1st

House: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Rameshvaraaya

2nd

House: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Somanaathaaya

Etc

The 3rd

house energy is Naagesha

4th

– omkaara

5th

Vaidya

6th

mallikaarjuna

7th

mahaakaala

Which is

what Hari’s query is about. The 7th also belongs to Ketu who

is able to take us to moksha.

Tryambaka

is for the 12th house. I am sure you know the rest.

Love,

Swee

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya

Tuesday, February 21, 2006

8:06 AM

sohamsa

Re: Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the

conference! I remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the

Tryambakeswar Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin to

understand your logic at that time.

Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about

diksha for bijas is accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental

concept, bijas can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only.

This is best illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into

origin...a small shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the

King of Ujjayani (Ujjain)

and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble from the ground &

started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother was aghast at

what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it away. Moved by

the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling column of light at that place,

which was seen from afar....the point is that the jyotirlingas are about

the light of knowledge inside everyone and hence an exception may be made

in this case. However should this argument be specious, I think that the advice

you received from Kakatpur Ac hyuta Gaddi is indicating that there is a

need to groom diksha Gurus also in SJC apart from siksha (teaching)

Gurus currently. From what little Sanjay told me at Singapore, I

understand that bijas are to be added only when the graha is debilitated or in

a very weak position.

Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a

very fine discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly, I

think its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

+

sri gurave namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation

was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this

now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram

Hospital Road, New Delhi

110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

February 21, 2006

Namah Shivaya

Dear Visti, and Hari,

A simple argument, but for knowledge.

Hari had some problems related to 7th house at that time (When Gurugi was in Singapore) according to my memory. Karaka for 7th house is debilitated in 11th and of course , Venus is Ishta Devata.

Perhaps he must have recommended Jyotirlinga for Tryambakeshvar to uplift Venus with Mritunyaya beeja, Not for health problems, but to strength Venus as Venus is Mritunjaya.

Again let us see other example by Hari.

In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another version reads as

||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah|| (Hari)

Again it is Mritunjaya Beeja added to Saturn's Place.

I think, the Jyotir linga mantra is more effective with mritunjaya beeja. Recommending or not, and qualifications for recommend is another issue.

I hope you all got me. Please share your's valuble understanding.

Best Wishes

Karu

-

Visti Larsen

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:49 PM

RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Hari, Namaskar

I think broader concept of the beejas has to be applied. If you are having health problems, then mrityunjaya beejas should be added, whilst if one experiences a great deal of shock which is tough to swallow, then the poison destroying beejas should be added. Just my two cents.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya21 February 2006 07:06sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the conference! I remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the Tryambakeswar Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin to understand your logic at that time.

Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about diksha for bijas is accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental concept, bijas can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only. This is best illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into origin...a small shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the King of Ujjayani (Ujjain) and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble from the ground & started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother was aghast at what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it away. Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling column of light at that place, which was seen from afar....the point is that the jyotirlingas are about the light of knowledge inside everyone and hence an exception may be made in this case. However should this argument be specious, I think that the advice you received from Kakatpur Achyuta Gaddi is indicating that there is a need to groom diksha Gurus also in SJC apart from siksha (teaching) Gurus currently. From what little Sanjay told me at Singapore, I understand that bijas are to be added only when the graha is debilitated or in a very weak position.

Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a very fine discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly, I think its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

+ sri gurave namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

February 21, 2006

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Karu,

Namaskar

A simple

refutation of your argument: HUM HUM is not mrityunjaya beeja, it is the damana

beeja repeated twice. When done so, it is said that ones weaknesses inhibit one

from forgetting the knowledge of the vedas. It is specifically with these

beejas that the Mahakaleshvara jyotirlinga emerged from the earth.

Mrityunjaya

beeja by Kahola and Vamadeva rishi is “Haum & Joom”. “sah”

is the bhedana.

-

Reference: VRA.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles

visit:

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Karu

21 February 2006 12:33

sohamsa

Re: Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

Namah Shivaya

Dear Visti, and Hari,

A simple argument, but for knowledge.

Hari had some problems related to 7th house at that time (When Gurugi

was in Singapore)

according to my memory. Karaka for 7th house is debilitated in 11th and of

course , Venus is Ishta Devata.

Perhaps he must have recommended Jyotirlinga for Tryambakeshvar to

uplift Venus with Mritunyaya beeja, Not for health problems, but to strength

Venus as Venus is Mritunjaya.

Again let us see other example by Hari.

In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri

forum, another version reads as

||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya

hum hum sah|| (Hari)

Again it is Mritunjaya Beeja added to Saturn's Place.

I think, the Jyotir linga mantra is more effective with

mritunjaya beeja. Recommending or not, and qualifications for recommend is

another issue.

I hope you all got me. Please share your's valuble

understanding.

Best Wishes

Karu

-

Visti Larsen

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 21, 2006

7:49 PM

RE: Re:

[Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Hari,

Namaskar

I

think broader concept of the beejas has to be applied. If you are having

health problems, then mrityunjaya beejas should be added, whilst if one

experiences a great deal of shock which is tough to swallow, then the poison

destroying beejas should be added. Just my two cents.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

Jyotisa Shisya

21 February 2006 07:06

sohamsa

Re: Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the

conference! I remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the

Tryambakeswar Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin to

understand your logic at that time.

Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about

diksha for bijas is accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental

concept, bijas can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only.

This is best illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into

origin...a small shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the

King of Ujjayani (Ujjain)

and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble from the ground &

started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother was aghast at

what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it away. Moved by

the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling column of light at that place,

which was seen from afar....the point is that the jyotirlingas are about

the light of knowledge inside everyone and hence an exception may be made

in this case. However should this argument be specious, I think that the advice

you received from Kakatpur Achyuta Gaddi is indicating that there is a

need to groom diksha Gurus also in SJC apart from siksha (teaching)

Gurus currently. From what little Sanjay told me at Singapore,

I understand that bijas are to be added only when the graha is debilitated or

in a very weak position.

Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a

very fine discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly, I

think its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath

<guruji wrote:

+

sri gurave namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation

was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this

now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram

Hospital Road, New Delhi

110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

February 21, 2006

Swee ji and Lakshmi jee,pranam.Would you be so kind to

give rest of Jyotirling mantras.Thanks G chopra.

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Swee, Namaskar

>

> The Jyotirlinga is based on signs, not houses.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa

> [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> Swee Chan

> 21 February 2006 11:27

> sohamsa

> RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra

> for MOST auspicious

> Jyotirlinga

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Hari,

>

> Namaste

>

> This is what I recall from the lecture:

>

> The tripod begins with Jupiter on the lagna, Sun is

> the Atmakaraka and Moon

> is the Arudha Lagna. The power of the Jyotirlinga

> gives light to the person

> and opens the Third Eye. The Jyotirlinga has the

> power to exalt all the

> planets and removes curses where that graha is

> involved.

>

> The mantra for the 1st, 2nd houses etc., are:

>

> 1st House: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Rameshvaraaya

>

> 2nd House: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Somanaathaaya

>

> Etc

>

> The 3rd house energy is Naagesha

>

> 4th - omkaara

>

> 5th Vaidya

>

> 6th mallikaarjuna

>

> 7th mahaakaala

>

> Which is what Hari's query is about. The 7th also

> belongs to Ketu who is

> able to take us to moksha.

>

> Tryambaka is for the 12th house. I am sure you know

> the rest.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa

> [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> Jyotisa Shisya

> Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:06 AM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra

> for MOST auspicious

> Jyotirlinga

>

> |om|

>

> Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

>

> Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake

> at the conference! I

> remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice

> the Tryambakeswar

> Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now,

> I begin to understand

> your logic at that time.

>

> Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point

> about diksha for bijas is

> accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a

> fundamental concept, bijas

> can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga

> mantras only. This is best

> illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came

> into origin...a small

> shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of

> the King of Ujjayani

> (Ujjain) and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a

> round pebble from the

> ground & started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam.

> The boys mother was

> aghast at what the boy was doing and picked up the

> stone to throw it away.

> Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a

> dazzling column of light at

> that place, which was seen from afar....the point is

> that the jyotirlingas

> are about the light of knowledge inside everyone and

> hence an exception may

> be made in this case. However should this argument

> be specious, I think that

> the advice you received from Kakatpur Ac hyuta Gaddi

> is indicating that

> there is a need to groom diksha Gurus also in SJC

> apart from siksha

> (teaching) Gurus currently. From what little Sanjay

> told me at Singapore, I

> understand that bijas are to be added only when the

> graha is debilitated or

> in a very weak position.

>

> Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding

> upon a very fine

> discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have

> heard correctly, I think

> its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

>

> regards

>

> Hari

>

> On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

>

> + sri gurave namah +

>

> Dear Hari

>

> This question was asked at the conference and

> explanation was given...lets

> see if anyone was awake at the conference and can

> explain this now.

>

> With best wishes & warm regards,

>

> Yours truly

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

=== message truncated ===

February 21, 2006

Namah Shivaya

Dear Visti,

Thanks for this rectification. I am very interesting about this topic.

Karu

-

Visti Larsen

sohamsa

Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:36 AM

RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Karu, Namaskar

A simple refutation of your argument: HUM HUM is not mrityunjaya beeja, it is the damana beeja repeated twice. When done so, it is said that ones weaknesses inhibit one from forgetting the knowledge of the vedas. It is specifically with these beejas that the Mahakaleshvara jyotirlinga emerged from the earth.

Mrityunjaya beeja by Kahola and Vamadeva rishi is “Haum & Joom”. “sah” is the bhedana.

- Reference: VRA.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Karu21 February 2006 12:33sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

Namah Shivaya

Dear Visti, and Hari,

A simple argument, but for knowledge.

Hari had some problems related to 7th house at that time (When Gurugi was in Singapore) according to my memory. Karaka for 7th house is debilitated in 11th and of course , Venus is Ishta Devata.

Perhaps he must have recommended Jyotirlinga for Tryambakeshvar to uplift Venus with Mritunyaya beeja, Not for health problems, but to strength Venus as Venus is Mritunjaya.

Again let us see other example by Hari.

In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another version reads as

||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah|| (Hari)

Again it is Mritunjaya Beeja added to Saturn's Place.

I think, the Jyotir linga mantra is more effective with mritunjaya beeja. Recommending or not, and qualifications for recommend is another issue.

I hope you all got me. Please share your's valuble understanding.

Best Wishes

Karu

-

Visti Larsen

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:49 PM

RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Hari, Namaskar

I think broader concept of the beejas has to be applied. If you are having health problems, then mrityunjaya beejas should be added, whilst if one experiences a great deal of shock which is tough to swallow, then the poison destroying beejas should be added. Just my two cents.

Best wishes,

***

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya21 February 2006 07:06sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the conference! I remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the Tryambakeswar Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin to understand your logic at that time.

Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about diksha for bijas is accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental concept, bijas can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only. This is best illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into origin...a small shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the King of Ujjayani (Ujjain) and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble from the ground & started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother was aghast at what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it away. Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling column of light at that place, which was seen from afar....the point is that the jyotirlingas are about the light of knowledge inside everyone and hence an exception may be made in this case. However should this argument be specious, I think that the advice you received from Kakatpur Achyuta Gaddi is indicating that there is a need to groom diksha Gurus also in SJC apart from siksha (teaching) Gurus currently. From what little Sanjay told me at Singapore, I understand that bijas are to be added only when the graha is debilitated or in a very weak position.

Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a very fine discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly, I think its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

+ sri gurave namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

February 21, 2006

respected visiti ji,

It may seem silly on my part butI have one additional query,I was

just listening to Guru Sanjay ji's lecture on jaggannath drekkana.

as my chart involves a curse of brahmin and as suggested by you I

have already started jyotirlinga mantra.

In vedic remedies by Guruji,he has said that the curse of brahmin

will be fructified through a brahmin,the attorney opposing me is one

Mr Attri,most probably a brahmin.

incidentally muni related to my jaggannath drekkana is also ATTRI .

what can i expect keeping this in view?

By then I shall already have completed 40 days of jyotirlinga

worship if mahakaal permits me to do so.

additionally I donot know whther Mr attri does gayatri mantra( as

per Guruji a brahmin must do gayatri mantra)

looking forward for your guidance.

with regards

vikas jeer

sohamsa , " Karu " <heen wrote:

>

> Namah Shivaya

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Thanks for this rectification. I am very interesting about this

topic.

>

> Karu

> -

> Visti Larsen

> sohamsa

> Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:36 AM

> RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST

auspicious Jyotirlinga

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Karu, Namaskar

>

> A simple refutation of your argument: HUM HUM is not mrityunjaya

beeja, it is the damana beeja repeated twice. When done so, it is

said that ones weaknesses inhibit one from forgetting the knowledge

of the vedas. It is specifically with these beejas that the

Mahakaleshvara jyotirlinga emerged from the earth.

>

> Mrityunjaya beeja by Kahola and Vamadeva rishi is " Haum &

Joom " . " sah " is the bhedana.

>

> - Reference: VRA.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

>

> ***

>

> -

-----------

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Karu

> 21 February 2006 12:33

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST

auspicious Jyotirlinga

>

> Namah Shivaya

>

> Dear Visti, and Hari,

>

> A simple argument, but for knowledge.

>

> Hari had some problems related to 7th house at that time (When

Gurugi was in Singapore) according to my memory. Karaka for 7th

house is debilitated in 11th and of course , Venus is Ishta Devata.

>

> Perhaps he must have recommended Jyotirlinga for Tryambakeshvar

to uplift Venus with Mritunyaya beeja, Not for health problems, but

to strength Venus as Venus is Mritunjaya.

>

> Again let us see other example by Hari.

>

> In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another version

reads as

>

> ||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah|| (Hari)

>

> Again it is Mritunjaya Beeja added to Saturn's Place.

>

> I think, the Jyotir linga mantra is more effective with

mritunjaya beeja. Recommending or not, and qualifications for

recommend is another issue.

>

> I hope you all got me. Please share your's valuble understanding.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Karu

>

-

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> sohamsa

>

> Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:49 PM

>

> RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST

auspicious Jyotirlinga

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Hari, Namaskar

>

> I think broader concept of the beejas has to be applied. If

you are having health problems, then mrityunjaya beejas should be

added, whilst if one experiences a great deal of shock which is

tough to swallow, then the poison destroying beejas should be added.

Just my two cents.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

>

> ***

>

> -

---------

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya

> 21 February 2006 07:06

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST

auspicious Jyotirlinga

>

> |om|

>

> Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

>

> Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the

conference! I remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice

the Tryambakeswar Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya

bijas...now, I begin to understand your logic at that time.

>

> Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about diksha

for bijas is accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a

fundamental concept, bijas can be safely given in the case of

jyotirlinga mantras only. This is best illustrated by the story of

how Mahakaaleshwar came into origin...a small shepherd boy wanted to

emulate the Shiva worship of the King of Ujjayani (Ujjain) and in

the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble from the ground &

started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother was aghast

at what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it away.

Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling column of

light at that place, which was seen from afar....the point is that

the jyotirlingas are about the light of knowledge inside everyone

and hence an exception may be made in this case. However should this

argument be specious, I think that the advice you received from

Kakatpur Achyuta Gaddi is indicating that there is a need to groom

diksha Gurus also in SJC apart from siksha (teaching) Gurus

currently. From what little Sanjay told me at Singapore, I

understand that bijas are to be added only when the graha is

debilitated or in a very weak position.

>

> Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a very

fine discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard

correctly, I think its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

>

> regards

>

> Hari

>

> On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

>

> + sri gurave namah +

>

> Dear Hari

>

> This question was asked at the conference and explanation was

given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can

explain this now.

>

> With best wishes & warm regards,

>

> Yours truly

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> ------------------------------

---

>

> Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org

>

> Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

>

> Phone: +91.11.25717162

>

> ------------------------------

----

>

*tat savitur varenyam*

>

February 22, 2006

+ sri gurave namah +

Dear Lakshmi

Initiation is of various kinds. Sarbani explained this in her paper on diksha etc at the conference. Point here is whether such an initiation is required for mantra sadhana. Initiation is necessary and if this cannot be taken from a guru personally then it should be taken from the Rishi of the mantra for He alone is the most qualified to give the diksha of the mantra. The Rishi gives doksha through the guru or automatically if we worship the Rishi. So, in a nutshell, Rishi nyasa is very very necessary for proper initiation of the mantra.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh] Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:38 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

Om Gurave NamahDear Hari,Namaste.In the story of Mahakaleshwar, the shepherd boy had innocent andimplicit devotion, which was untainted by any material desires...if wealso have that kind of faith, we too can do beejakshara japam withoutinitiation. In Devi Bhagavatam, it is mentioned that a boy had donethe japa of "Aim" beeja without knowing or desiring the boon of greatknowledge that beejakshara can bestow. That boy had ofcourse beenblessed with that knowledge by Mother. In such cases, perhaps GodHimself is the Guru.But for those people who seek some material relief from theirreligious endeavours, I feel deeksha by a competent guru, who canguide them through the intricacies of japam/sadhana, is necessary. In other words, nish-kaama worship needs no formal grounding, whilesa-kaama worship does require initiation to give full results.Just my two cents:--))regards,Lakshmisohamsa , "Jyotisa Shisya" <achyutagaddi wrote:>> |om|> Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,> > Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the conference! I> remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the Tryambakeswar> Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin tounderstand> your logic at that time.> > Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about diksha forbijas is> accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental concept,bijas> can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only. This isbest> illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into origin...asmall> shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the King of Ujjayani> (Ujjain) and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebblefrom the> ground & started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother> was aghast at what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it> away. Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzlingcolumn of> light at that place, which was seen from afar....the point is that the> jyotirlingas are about the light of knowledge inside everyone andhence an> exception may be made in this case. However should this argument be> specious, I think that the advice you received from Kakatpur Achyuta> Gaddi is indicating that there is a need to groom diksha Gurus also in> SJC apart from siksha (teaching) Gurus currently. From what littleSanjay> told me at Singapore, I understand that bijas are to be added onlywhen the> graha is debilitated or in a very weak position.> > Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a very fine> discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly,I think> its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.> > regards> Hari> > > > On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:> >> >> >> >> > + sri gurave namah +> > Dear Hari> > This question was asked at the conference and explanation wasgiven...lets> > see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now.> > With best wishes & warm regards,> > Yours truly> > Sanjay Rath> > > > Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com> > Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India> > Phone: +91.11.25717162> > -> >> >>

February 22, 2006

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

Dear Visti and Karu,

Jum is Mrtyunjaya bija. Haum is Sadashiva bija. Ha is akash tatva + om = Haum. Sah is the shakti. The Mrytunjaya mantra as given by Kahola rishi is Om Jum Sah, where om is the bija and sah shakti, Mrtyunjaya devata and Gayatri chhanda. The Sadashiva bija is added. The Sadashiva bija is also added along with some other bijas when doing the Mahamrtunjaya Mantra.

Damana means suppression and Hum suppresses all evils, both externally and internally.

Best Regards,

Sarbani

Visti Larsen [visti] Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:07 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Karu, Namaskar

A simple refutation of your argument: HUM HUM is not mrityunjaya beeja, it is the damana beeja repeated twice. When done so, it is said that ones weaknesses inhibit one from forgetting the knowledge of the vedas. It is specifically with these beejas that the Mahakaleshvara jyotirlinga emerged from the earth.

Mrityunjaya beeja by Kahola and Vamadeva rishi is “Haum & Joom”. “sah” is the bhedana.

- Reference: VRA.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Karu21 February 2006 12:33sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

Namah Shivaya

Dear Visti, and Hari,

A simple argument, but for knowledge.

Hari had some problems related to 7th house at that time (When Gurugi was in Singapore) according to my memory. Karaka for 7th house is debilitated in 11th and of course , Venus is Ishta Devata.

Perhaps he must have recommended Jyotirlinga for Tryambakeshvar to uplift Venus with Mritunyaya beeja, Not for health problems, but to strength Venus as Venus is Mritunjaya.

Again let us see other example by Hari.

In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another version reads as

||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah|| (Hari)

Again it is Mritunjaya Beeja added to Saturn's Place.

I think, the Jyotir linga mantra is more effective with mritunjaya beeja. Recommending or not, and qualifications for recommend is another issue.

I hope you all got me. Please share your's valuble understanding.

Best Wishes

Karu

-

Visti Larsen

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:49 PM

RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Hari, Namaskar

I think broader concept of the beejas has to be applied. If you are having health problems, then mrityunjaya beejas should be added, whilst if one experiences a great deal of shock which is tough to swallow, then the poison destroying beejas should be added. Just my two cents.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya21 February 2006 07:06sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga

|om|

Dear Sanjay, Visti and Bharat,

Sanjay: Of course, Visti and Bharat were wide awake at the conference! I remember you had asked me (in Singapore) to practice the Tryambakeswar Jyotirlinga mantra with the mrityunjaya bijas...now, I begin to understand your logic at that time.

Visti: Thanks for the clarifications. Your point about diksha for bijas is accepted but I think that jyotirlingas being a fundamental concept, bijas can be safely given in the case of jyotirlinga mantras only. This is best illustrated by the story of how Mahakaaleshwar came into origin...a small shepherd boy wanted to emulate the Shiva worship of the King of Ujjayani (Ujjain) and in the Sani Pradosha Kala, picked up a round pebble from the ground & started worshipping it as a Shiva Lingam. The boys mother was aghast at what the boy was doing and picked up the stone to throw it away. Moved by the boy's devotion, Shiva appeared as a dazzling column of light at that place, which was seen from afar....the point is that the jyotirlingas are about the light of knowledge inside everyone and hence an exception may be made in this case. However should this argument be specious, I think that the advice you received from Kakatpur Achyuta Gaddi is indicating that there is a need to groom diksha Gurus also in SJC apart from siksha (teaching) Gurus currently. From what little Sanjay told me at Singapore, I understand that bijas are to be added only when the graha is debilitated or in a very weak position.

Bharat: no need to feel lost as you are intruding upon a very fine discussion about Varaha avatar. While you may have heard correctly, I think its likely Sanjay meant Mahakaaleshwar instead.

regards

Hari

On 2/20/06, Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

+ sri gurave namah +

Dear Hari

This question was asked at the conference and explanation was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now.

With best wishes & warm regards,

Yours truly

Sanjay Rath

Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com

Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India

Phone: +91.11.25717162

-

February 22, 2006

|om|

Dear Sarbani, namaste

Why be worried? Life is too wonderful to worry about :-) but if you'll allow me to sneak in a sideways shot: I am also worried! And that makes two of us :-)! Anyway I'll be in Gurgaon for the Holi mid semester break (March 12 - 18) and hopefully we can meet one of those days to do some serious gupshupping (see the Hindi influence on me!).

Let me reiterate once again that this discussion is limited to jyotirlinga mantras only and specifically discusses the do's & don'ts of bijas in these jyotirlinga mantras.

You have put it very well; nothing much to add or comment there. My salient point is that jyotirlinga mantras being such a useful and universal concept, what is the scope to use bijas in these mantras? Sanjay has given an interesting suggestion to use the rishi nyasa.

regards

Hari

On 2/21/06, Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote:

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

Dear Hari,

Slightly worried. None of us are diksha gurus here. How can we groom others to be so? We are at best teachers and students of jyotish, although we dabble ad lib in the spiritual world. It has been stressed on us that we should remember this at all times and remind our students as well, so that there is no false illusion. Even the act of adding bijas to mantras is only done by a diksha guru or someone of that stature. I know a few jyotish gurus here who take the liberty of doing so. For example, just because I read a little bit of mantra shastra here and there, it does not give me the liberty of adding bijas and making mantras like a diksha guru and prescribing them to others. It is an issue of sanctity. Researching, reading, debating is another matter all together.

Best Regards,

Sarbani

February 22, 2006

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sarbani,

Namaskar

Right,

Haum is sadashiva beeja. But i believe the rishi of “Joom” is Vamadeva,

whilst Kahola is the rishi of the sadashiva beeja.

Best

wishes,

***

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