Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste ...............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? You've explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength and those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in strength.......... Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. Love, Swee p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break instead On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa would Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most useful in Rasi dasas(Sign based). With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement of lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of MOON. Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every antardasa calculated. Best Regards Partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear Swee Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and see what are the influences. In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the 8th lord. But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a mixed antardasa. I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, but off late i am trying to use them more. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? You've > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength and > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in strength.......... > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > Love, > Swee > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break instead > > > > > [sJC- Africa ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa would > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most useful in > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement of > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of MOON. > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > antardasa calculated. > > Best Regards > Partha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? Thank you for y our patience. Love, Swee On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and see what are the influences. In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the 8th lord. But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a mixed antardasa. I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, but off late i am trying to use them more. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? You've > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength and > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in strength.......... > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > Love, > Swee > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break instead > > > > > [sJC- Africa ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa would > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most useful in > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement of > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of MOON. > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > antardasa calculated. > > Best Regards > Partha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear Partha, A basic question , you have taken the theme of the antardasa period by looking at what planets and arudhas reside in that, can we also do the same for the maha dasa period. I have not yet had the pleasure to learn jyotish formally so can you or any member please say a few lines about the difference between theme of mahadasa and antasdasa and further divisions. What should we look for when we just look at mahadasa rasi and antardasa rasi and pratyantardasa rasi /period. Also if you have a few min can you look at my ramblings for my next maha dasa DPC which will be soon starting in 2 months time and correct any errors. Best Regards, Ashish __________ Here is a dasa pravesh chakra for my next mahadasa Taurus. I have tried to make a brief analysis, please point out the errors or what I have missed. My Natal Lagna is Libra same as DasaPravesha Lagna. Here the Maha Dasa Rasi is Taurus which is in 8th House in Lagna as well as DPC chart. Also in DPC chart the Taurus contains A6 and GL. In Natal chart the Taurus again in 8th house contains Ke and A5. From my limited understanding I can see the overall period as not too great and probably marred with diseases with maybe some rise in position because it contains GL. But 8th is also the sign of hidden knowledge ( Jyotish ? ) so maybe there is an increase in that also. Given that this sign is aspected by Jupiter, Sun , Mercury(9th Lord) and Saturn However let us continue with what are the aspects ( in DPC chart only ) and we can see that the Taurus aspects 1. Cancer ( 10th House) having A8 and Sa 2. Libra ( Lagna ) having Ju and A4 3. Capricorn ( 4th House ) having UL and A7. What to say of these aspects ? Again A8 comes into picture so definitely some diseases but also some improvements in married life and possible property matters. Also the lord of dasa rashi which is also lord of DPC lagna is in exchange with Jupiter and in 3rd House. Do we also consider the lordship of dasa rashi or DPC lagna to make some assessment ? -------------------- Rasi +--------------+ | \ MeR / \ HL Md / | | \ Su / \ Ke / | | \ / \ Gk / | | \ / Ju \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ve x As x Mo | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 7 / \ | | / \ / \ | | x SaR | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL x MaR x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ra \ / GL \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ , " V.Partha sarathy " <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Swee > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord. > But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > Best Regards > Partha > > , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength.......... > > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [sJC- > Africa ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear Partha, A few more question please. Can we use the concept of Vara Lord and Hora Lord as we use in Tithi Pravesha chakra in Dasa Pravesha Chakra also. Also should we make use of the divisions of the Dasa Pravesha Chakra. Regards, Ashish , " V.Partha sarathy " <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Swee > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord. > But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > Best Regards > Partha > > , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength.......... > > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [sJC- > Africa ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Dear Swee The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we cast a chart for the moment when dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa Pravesh(Entry chart) chart Best wishes partha On 10/18/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Partha,NamasteI'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say youare running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona?Thank you for y our patience.Love, Swee [ ] OnBehalf Of V.Partha sarathyTuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh ChakraDear SweeSay Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and see what are the influences. In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results.Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the 8th lord.But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a mixed antardasa.I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, but off late i am trying to use them more.Best RegardsPartha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Partha,> > Namaste> > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? You've> explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength and> those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in strength..........> Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course.> > Love,> Swee> p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break instead > > > > > [ ] On> Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa would > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most useful in > Rasi dasas(Sign based).> > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement of > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of MOON. > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > antardasa calculated.> > Best Regards > Partha> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. BTW, would you consider using 360 Savana year for those whose Moon is strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. Give me your thoughts. Love, Swee Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we cast a chart for the moment when dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa Pravesh(Entry chart) chart Best wishes partha On 10/18/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? Thank you for y our patience. Love, Swee [ ] On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and see what are the influences. In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the 8th lord. But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a mixed antardasa. I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, but off late i am trying to use them more. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? You've > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength and > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in strength.......... > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > Love, > Swee > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break instead > > > > > [ SJC- Africa ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa would > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most useful in > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement of > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of MOON. > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > antardasa calculated. > > Best Regards > Partha > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Dear Swee As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of nakshatra based dasas Best Regards Partha On 10/19/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. BTW, would you consider using 360 Savana year for those whose Moon is strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. Give me your thoughts. Love, Swee Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha SarathyWednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we cast a chart for the moment when dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa Pravesh(Entry chart) chart Best wishes partha On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Partha,Namaste I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona?Thank you for y our patience. Love,Swee [ ] OnBehalf Of V.Partha sarathy Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear SweeSay Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and see what are the influences. In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results.Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the 8th lord.But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a mixed antardasa. I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, but off late i am trying to use them more.Best RegardsPartha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Partha,> > Namaste> > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? You've> explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength and> those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in strength..........> Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course.> > Love,> Swee> p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break instead > > > > > [ SJC- Africa ] On> Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa would > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most useful in > Rasi dasas(Sign based).> > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement of > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of MOON. > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > antardasa calculated.> > Best Regards > Partha> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we can’t even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an atom J. Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what becomes the child………..and the thought process of the mind for both male and female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is whom we will “journey” to. What’s the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite? Love, Swee Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of nakshatra based dasas Best Regards Partha On 10/19/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. BTW, would you consider using 360 Savana year for those whose Moon is strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. Give me your thoughts. Love, Swee Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we cast a chart for the moment when dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa Pravesh(Entry chart) chart Best wishes partha On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? Thank you for y our patience. Love, Swee [ ] On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and see what are the influences. In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the 8th lord. But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a mixed antardasa. I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, but off late i am trying to use them more. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? You've > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength and > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in strength.......... > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > Love, > Swee > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break instead > > > > > [ SJC- Africa ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa would > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most useful in > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement of > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of MOON. > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > antardasa calculated. > > Best Regards > Partha > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Dear SweeIf you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind.How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences.I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this.Best RegardsPartha , "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > Namaste> > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we> can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an> atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic> planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are> also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what> becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and> female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is> whom we will "journey" to.> > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite?> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > Love,> > Swee> > _____ > > On> Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas,> irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we> should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years> for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of> nakshatra based dasas > > Best Regards> > Partha> > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > Namaste> > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > BTW, would you consider using 360 Savana year for those whose Moon is> strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg> year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is> not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as> it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses.> > Give me your thoughts.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > _____ > > On> Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we cast a chart for the moment when> dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius> lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even> though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa> Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > Best wishes> > partha> > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... <swee@c... >> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Partha,> Namaste > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you> > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona?> > Thank you for y our patience.> > Love,> Swee> > > [ ] On> Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > Dear Swee> > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results.> > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord.> But in DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more.> > Best Regards> Partha> > , "Swee Chan" swee@c... wrote:> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Namaste> > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've> > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and> > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > Africa ] On> > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based).> > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated.> > > > Best Regards > > Partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Saturn’s element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. Here’s your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. J The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. Love, Swee On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic > planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and > female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > whom we will " journey " to. > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite? > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > Love, > > Swee > > _____ > > On > ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, > irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years > for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of > nakshatra based dasas > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is > strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is > not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as > it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > Give me your thoughts. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even > though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... <swee@c... > > wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > Namaste > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? > > Thank you for y our patience. > > Love, > Swee > > > @! groups.com [ ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > Dear Swee > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord. > But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > Best Regards > Partha > > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > Africa ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Dear Swee Was that a typo, or a series of typos? you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96' b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by aquarius dasa?? Best wishes partha On 10/19/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. J The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. Love, Swee On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathyWednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. Best RegardsPartha , " Swee Chan " < swee@c...> wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > Namaste> > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an> atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic> planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what> becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and> female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > whom we will " journey " to.> > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite?> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > Love, > > Swee> > _____ > > [ ] On> ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee> > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas,> irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years> for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of> nakshatra based dasas > > Best Regards > > Partha> > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > Namaste > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is> strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is> not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as> it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > Give me your thoughts.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > _____ > > [ ] On> Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius> lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even> though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > Best wishes> > partha> > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c... >> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Partha,> Namaste > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona?> > Thank you for y our patience.> > Love,> Swee> > > @! groups.com [ ] On> Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > Dear Swee> > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results.> > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord.> But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more.> > Best Regards> Partha> > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote:> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Namaste> > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've> > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > Africa ] On> > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based).> > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated.> > > > Best Regards > > Partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Now you’ve got me stumped L ……..thought you said at the TIME when the new seed dasa begins, read as from that ascending rasi????????????? Love, Dumbo On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:44 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee Was that a typo, or a series of typos? you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96' b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by aquarius dasa?? Best wishes partha On 10/19/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. J The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. Love, Swee On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " < swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic > planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and > female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > whom we will " journey " to. > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite? > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > Love, > > Swee > > _____ > > [ ] On > ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, > irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years > for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of > nakshatra based dasas > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is > strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is > not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as > it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > Give me your thoughts. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [ ] On > Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even > though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c... > > wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > Namaste > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? > > Thank you for y our patience. > > Love, > Swee > > > @! groups.com [ ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > Dear Swee > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord. > But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > Best Regards > Partha > > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > Africa ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Dear SweeFor the sake of clarity , let me repeat myself., No more hints after this.a) You know about narayan dasa very well, how to analyse it.b) Now look at the time when the dasa starts. That time decides the lagna for dasa pravesh. Once the lagna is determined, we would know the influences that it would have over Narayan dasa.c) Aquarius is lagna rising when Pisces Naryaan dasa started. Aquarius is 12th from Dasa sign, and 3rd from natal lagnad) Scorpio is the lagna rising when Scorpio dasa would start in 2007. With quite good yogas in it.e) Aries is the lagna when Cancer dasa starts. Aries is 10th from Cancer. Aries is also 5th from Natal lagna. ANd moon+mars are in 9th from Aries in 2012 december 15th when Cancer Narayan Dasa startsf) Before Cancer Narayan dasa i have to contend with a difficult Scorpio dasa. You must be aware of Deha And JEEVA concept. The deha is scorpio itself with sun and mars in it. and Jeeva is Thula with Rahu in it. Jupiter aspects Scorpio by Rasi drishti. So i have to do lot of work to avoid death in Scorpio Narayan dasa. If i defeat Death in Scorpio Narayan dasa, Cancer dasa would be better.Best RegardsPartha , "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > Namaste> > > > Now you've got me stumped :-( ....thought you said at the TIME when the new> seed dasa begins, read as from that ascending rasi?????????????> > > > Love,> > Dumbo> > > > _____ > > On> Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:44 AM> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > > > Was that a typo, or a series of typos?> > > > you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes> your 10th.> > > > > > a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96'> > > > b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh> when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by> aquarius dasa??> > > > Best wishes> > partha> > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > Namaste> > > > Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of> sleep...in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the> hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter)> which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). > > For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is> in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I> think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's> your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment> centres etc etc. :-) > > > > The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > _____ > > On> Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not> so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The> dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i> dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be> forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never> thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though> one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in> pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very> heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot> of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa,> leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite> tough for mind. > > How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in> Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few> minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also> a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is> where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my> dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for> Occult sciences. > > > I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus> that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. > > Best Regards> Partha> > > , "Swee Chan" < swee@c... wrote:> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > > > Dear Partha,> > > Namaste> > > > > > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra,> we > > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split> an> > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic> > planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are> > > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what> > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male> and> > female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is> > > whom we will "journey" to.> > > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite?> > > > > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee> > > > _____ > > > > [ ] On> > ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > > > > > Dear Swee> > > > > > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas,> > irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we> > > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years> > for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of> > nakshatra based dasas > > > > Best Regards > > > > Partha> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > > > > > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is> > strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360> deg > > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it> is> > not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as> > it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > > > Give me your thoughts.> > > > > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > [> < ] On> > Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM> > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > > > > > Dear Swee> > > > > > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment> when > > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius> > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even> > though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > > > Best wishes> > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c <swee@c ... >> > wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > Namaste > > > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa?> > > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say> you > > > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona?> > > > Thank you for y our patience.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > > > > @! groups.com <http://groups.com/> [> ] On> > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > > see what are the influences. > > > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results.> > > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > > 8th lord.> > But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > > mixed antardasa. > > > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > > but off late i am trying to use them more.> > > > Best Regards> > Partha> > > > , "Swee Chan" swee@c... wrote:> > >> > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > Dear Partha,> > > > > > Namaste> > > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > > You've> > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > > and > > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course.> > > > > > Love,> > > Swee> > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > > instead > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > > Africa ] On> > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > > would > > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > > useful in > > > Rasi dasas(Sign based).> > > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > > MOON. > > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > > antardasa calculated.> > > > > > Best Regards > > > Partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I was relating this solar return chart in synastry to your natal chart. Whereas a solar return chart should be read as is. Taking my chart wrt Pravesh Cakra. Using narayan dasa (Leo) and naisargika dasa, the entry of Sun’s dasa was on 3rd April 2005 @5:28:04, 110E20; 1N33 TZ8E00 The tithi lord is Sun in Kumara (adolescence) avastha. The vara lord is Sani and lagna is Kumbha with Sun in the 2nd house, retrograde Mercury, exalted Venus and Rahu in exchange with Jupiter J (note that statement!!) All these are in rasi drishti. While Rahu and Sani become mahayogada, what about Sun? The Sun-Moon yoga (long. of Sun + long. Moon) is Siva Yoga. This yoga is ruled by retrograde Mercury which is in exchange with retrograde Jupiter. Since Narayan dasa is Leo, we look at the placement of Sun and it is 8th from it in a sign ruled by the feet. As Sun denotes health amongst other things, health-wise the 8th from the seed dasa does not bode well as it is also 12th from AL L. This explains the periodic slight aches or heat on the feet. Because the karana is the movable Taitula, malaise is only felt for very brief spells. Being in a pristhodaya rasi, this seems to be on going. ॥ॠघृनीः धातादितà¥à¤¯à¥¥ One last thing, the nakshatra is 13th from my janma nakshatra. What does it imply? I shall stop here. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:44 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee Was that a typo, or a series of typos? you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96' b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by aquarius dasa?? Best wishes partha On 10/19/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. J The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. Love, Swee On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " < swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic > planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and > female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > whom we will " journey " to. > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite? > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > Love, > > Swee > > _____ > > [ ] On > ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, > irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years > for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of > nakshatra based dasas > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is > strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is > not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as > it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > Give me your thoughts. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [ ] On > Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even > though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c... > > wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > Namaste > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? > > Thank you for y our patience. > > Love, > Swee > > > @! groups.com [ ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > Dear Swee > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord. > But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > Best Regards > Partha > > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > Africa ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Dear Swee The narayan dasa of Leo starts in 2007 for you. Please check and tell me. Best wishes partha On 10/25/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I was relating this solar return chart in synastry to your natal chart. Whereas a solar return chart should be read as is. Taking my chart wrt Pravesh Cakra. Using narayan dasa (Leo) and naisargika dasa, the entry of Sun's dasa was on 3rd April 2005 @5:28:04, 110E20; 1N33 TZ8E00 The tithi lord is Sun in Kumara (adolescence) avastha. The vara lord is Sani and lagna is Kumbha with Sun in the 2nd house, retrograde Mercury, exalted Venus and Rahu in exchange with Jupiter J (note that statement!!) All these are in rasi drishti. While Rahu and Sani become mahayogada, what about Sun? The Sun-Moon yoga (long. of Sun + long. Moon) is Siva Yoga. This yoga is ruled by retrograde Mercury which is in exchange with retrograde Jupiter. Since Narayan dasa is Leo, we look at the placement of Sun and it is 8th from it in a sign ruled by the feet. As Sun denotes health amongst other things, health-wise the 8 th from the seed dasa does not bode well as it is also 12th from AL L. This explains the periodic slight aches or heat on the feet. Because the karana is the movable Taitula, malaise is only felt for very brief spells. Being in a pristhodaya rasi, this seems to be on going. ॥ॠघृनीः धातादितà¥à¤¯à¥¥ One last thing, the nakshatra is 13th from my janma nakshatra. What does it imply? I shall stop here. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha SarathyThursday, October 20, 2005 5:44 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee Was that a typo, or a series of typos? you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96' b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by aquarius dasa?? Best wishes partha On 10/19/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. J The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. Love, Swee On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathyWednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. Best RegardsPartha , " Swee Chan " < swee@c...> wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste> > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic> planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and> female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > whom we will " journey " to. > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite?> > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > Love, > > Swee> > _____ > > [ ] On> ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy> Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas,> irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years> for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of> nakshatra based dasas > > Best Regards > > Partha> > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is> strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is> not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as> it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > Give me your thoughts.> > > > Love,> > Swee > > > > > > Love,> > Swee> > > > _____ > > [ ] On> Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > Dear Swee> > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even> though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > Best wishes> > partha> > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c... >> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Partha,> Namaste > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? > > Thank you for y our patience.> > Love,> Swee> > > @! groups.com [ ] On> Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > Dear Swee> > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results.> > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord.> But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more.> > Best Regards > Partha> > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote:> >> > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Namaste > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've> > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course.> > > > Love, > > Swee> > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > Africa ] On> > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy> > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra> > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based).> > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated.> > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Ooooooooops, it begins July 2006 L thank you for the correction. No excuses for trying it out late after a hard day’s work J Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:07 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee The narayan dasa of Leo starts in 2007 for you. Please check and tell me. Best wishes partha On 10/25/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I was relating this solar return chart in synastry to your natal chart. Whereas a solar return chart should be read as is. Taking my chart wrt Pravesh Cakra. Using narayan dasa (Leo) and naisargika dasa, the entry of Sun's dasa was on 3rd April 2005 @5:28:04, 110E20; 1N33 TZ8E00 The tithi lord is Sun in Kumara (adolescence) avastha. The vara lord is Sani and lagna is Kumbha with Sun in the 2nd house, retrograde Mercury, exalted Venus and Rahu in exchange with Jupiter J (note that statement!!) All these are in rasi drishti. While Rahu and Sani become mahayogada, what about Sun? The Sun-Moon yoga (long. of Sun + long. Moon) is Siva Yoga. This yoga is ruled by retrograde Mercury which is in exchange with retrograde Jupiter. Since Narayan dasa is Leo, we look at the placement of Sun and it is 8th from it in a sign ruled by the feet. As Sun denotes health amongst other things, health-wise the 8 th from the seed dasa does not bode well as it is also 12th from AL L. This explains the periodic slight aches or heat on the feet. Because the karana is the movable Taitula, malaise is only felt for very brief spells. Being in a pristhodaya rasi, this seems to be on going. ॥ॠघृनीः धातादितà¥à¤¯à¥¥ One last thing, the nakshatra is 13th from my janma nakshatra. What does it imply? I shall stop here. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:44 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee Was that a typo, or a series of typos? you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96' b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by aquarius dasa?? Best wishes partha On 10/19/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. J The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. Love, Swee On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Swee If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces(1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces(12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. Best Regards Partha , " Swee Chan " < swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas-Chandra, we > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic > planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and > female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > whom we will " journey " to. > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite? > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > Love, > > Swee > > _____ > > [ ] On > ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, > irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years > for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of > nakshatra based dasas > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is > strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is > not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as > it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > Give me your thoughts. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [ ] On > Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even > though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c... > > wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, > Namaste > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? > > Thank you for y our patience. > > Love, > Swee > > > @! groups.com [ ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > Dear Swee > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > see what are the influences. > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > 8th lord. > But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > mixed antardasa. > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > Best Regards > Partha > > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > You've > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > and > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > instead > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > Africa ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > would > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > useful in > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > MOON. > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > antardasa calculated. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Dear Sweeji, Namaste We have a doubt. whether to use 360 day savanna year(Le starts in Jul 2006) or 360 degree solar year (Le starts in 2007 Apr). Thanks, Sitara , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Ooooooooops, it begins July 2006 :-( thank you for the correction. No excuses for trying it out late after a hard day’s work :-) > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:07 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > The narayan dasa of Leo starts in 2007 for you. Please check and tell me. > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/25/05, Swee Chan <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > I was relating this solar return chart in synastry to your natal chart. Whereas a solar return chart should be read as is. > > Taking my chart wrt Pravesh Cakra. Using narayan dasa (Leo) and naisargika dasa, the entry of Sun's dasa was on 3rd April 2005 @5:28:04, 110E20; 1N33 TZ8E00 > > > > The tithi lord is Sun in Kumara (adolescence) avastha. The vara lord is Sani and lagna is Kumbha with Sun in the 2nd house, retrograde Mercury, exalted Venus and Rahu in exchange with Jupiter :-) (note that statement!!) > > All these are in rasi drishti. While Rahu and Sani become mahayogada, what about Sun? The Sun-Moon yoga (long. of Sun + long. Moon) is Siva Yoga. This yoga is ruled by retrograde Mercury which is in exchange with retrograde Jupiter. > > > > Since Narayan dasa is Leo, we look at the placement of Sun and it is 8th from it in a sign ruled by the feet. As Sun denotes health amongst other things, health-wise the 8 th from the seed dasa does not bode well as it is also 12th from AL :-(. This explains the periodic slight aches or heat on the feet. Because the karana is the movable Taitula, malaise is only felt for very brief spells. Being in a pristhodaya rasi, this seems to be on going. > > ॥ॠघृनीः धातादितà¥à¤¯à¥¥ > > One last thing, the nakshatra is 13th from my janma nakshatra. What does it imply? > > > > I shall stop here. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:44 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > Was that a typo, or a series of typos? > > > > you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. > > > > > > a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96' > > > > b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by aquarius dasa?? > > > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... <swee@c...> > wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). > > For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. :-) > > > > The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces (1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces (12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. > > How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. > > > I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. > > Best Regards > Partha > > > , " Swee Chan " < swee@c...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas- Chandra, we > > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an > > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic > > planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what > > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and > > female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > > whom we will " journey " to. > > > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite? > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > _____ > > > > [ SJC- Africa ] On > > ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > > > > > Dear Swee > > > > > > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, > > irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years > > for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of > > nakshatra based dasas > > > > Best Regards > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > > > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is > > strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is > > not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as > > it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > > > Give me your thoughts. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > [ SJC- Africa ] On > > Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > > > > > Dear Swee > > > > > > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius > > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even > > though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > > > Best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c <swee@c> ... > > > wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? > > > > Thank you for y our patience. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > > @! groups.com <http://groups.com/> [ ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > > see what are the influences. > > > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > > 8th lord. > > But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > > mixed antardasa. > > > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > > You've > > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head <http://%20/> > > > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > > and > > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > > > Love, > > > Swee > > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > > instead <http://%20/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > > Africa ] On > > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > > would > > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > > useful in > > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > > MOON. > > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > > antardasa calculated. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sitara, Namaste Use the 360 degree solar year whenever you delineate with Narayana Dasa. This is as taught in the Parampara. Hope you are well. Love, Swee On Behalf Of sit_study Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:43 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra Dear Sweeji, Namaste We have a doubt. whether to use 360 day savanna year(Le starts in Jul 2006) or 360 degree solar year (Le starts in 2007 Apr). Thanks, Sitara , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Ooooooooops, it begins July 2006 :-( thank you for the correction. No excuses for trying it out late after a hard day’s work :-) > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:07 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > The narayan dasa of Leo starts in 2007 for you. Please check and tell me. > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/25/05, Swee Chan <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > I was relating this solar return chart in synastry to your natal chart. Whereas a solar return chart should be read as is. > > Taking my chart wrt Pravesh Cakra. Using narayan dasa (Leo) and naisargika dasa, the entry of Sun's dasa was on 3rd April 2005 @5:28:04, 110E20; 1N33 TZ8E00 > > > > The tithi lord is Sun in Kumara (adolescence) avastha. The vara lord is Sani and lagna is Kumbha with Sun in the 2nd house, retrograde Mercury, exalted Venus and Rahu in exchange with Jupiter :-) (note that statement!!) > > All these are in rasi drishti. While Rahu and Sani become mahayogada, what about Sun? The Sun-Moon yoga (long. of Sun + long. Moon) is Siva Yoga. This yoga is ruled by retrograde Mercury which is in exchange with retrograde Jupiter. > > > > Since Narayan dasa is Leo, we look at the placement of Sun and it is 8th from it in a sign ruled by the feet. As Sun denotes health amongst other things, health-wise the 8 th from the seed dasa does not bode well as it is also 12th from AL :-(. This explains the periodic slight aches or heat on the feet. Because the karana is the movable Taitula, malaise is only felt for very brief spells. Being in a pristhodaya rasi, this seems to be on going. > > à ¥¥à ¥ à ¤˜à ¥ƒà ¤¨à ¥€à ¤ƒ à ¤§à ¤¾à ¤¤à ¤¾à ¤¦à ¤¿à ¤¤à ¥Âà ¤¯à ¥¥ > > One last thing, the nakshatra is 13th from my janma nakshatra. What does it imply? > > > > I shall stop here. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:44 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > Was that a typo, or a series of typos? > > > > you wrote :-----think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10th. > > > > > > a) Aries dasa was over between 1989-96' > > > > b) And scorpio is 10th from Aquarius and definitely not from aries. Gosh when is aquarius dasa coming? 2028?? Do you think i will be alive by aquarius dasa?? > > > > Best wishes > > partha > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... <swee@c...> > wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > Saturn's element is Vayu (wind) and too much Vayu causes long spells of sleep…..in ability to waken up. If the inability to waken up between the hours of 5 -7, it is due to the weakness of the large intestines (Jupiter) which over activity is ruled by the kidneys (Venus). > > For your Kumbha dasa seed, Venus is the badhakesh and the 6th lord Moon is in Kumbha. So how have you worked out that Cancer dasa will be better? I think Aries dasa should pan out better as Scorpio becomes your 10 th. Here's your dreams come true. Cape Town has many spas, alternative treatment centres etc etc. :-) > > > > The 12 signs represent the Sudarshan Cakra for Vaishnavs. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:31 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > If you are talking about dispositor of moon in dasa pravesh chakra, i am not so sure. Because moon was in Kumbha when i started Pisces Narayan dasa. The dispositor saturn was with ketu in Pisces (1996). Moon is also in lagna. So i dont think i have become anyway tamasic. I think natal should never be forgotten for natural tendencies. Even in my worst depressions, i never thought of taking tamasic substances. Always stayed away from them. Though one tamasic activity that i have done was sleeping a lot. May be saturn in pisces (12th house natural zodiac) culd indicate that. It has been a very heart churning, heart burning dasa for me. Materially not the best dasa. Lot of difficulties and obstacles. Even though mother died in Leo narayan dasa, leo dasa was quite good for enjoyment purposes. Pisces dasa has been quite tough for mind. > > How about this, the Cancer Naryan dasa that i start in 2012 has DPC lagna in Aries. Moon and Mars are in Sagittarius in the same degree within a few minutes. Dispositor jupiter is with ketu in 2nd house. I think there is also a four planet combination in 8th from DPC lagna. Thus Cancer mahadasa is where i should try to do something very big that would help fulfilling my dream of 108 pranic healing centres in the world, also study centers for Occult sciences. > > > I guess for vaishnavas, the 12 signs could represent the 12 petalled lotus that directs us to Mahavishnu. I am not so sure about this. > > Best Regards > Partha > > > , " Swee Chan " < swee@c...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Your statement suggests that, without the all encompassing Manas- Chandra, we > > can't even begin to decipher which is what. It is like us trying to split an > > atom :-). Do you think that with the dispositor of Moon being a tamasic > > planet, attachments and thought processes are more towards tamasic? We are > > also told in the scriptures that the thought process of the female is what > > becomes the child.....and the thought process of the mind for both male and > > female becomes our next state of being. For HIS name on thoughts on Him is > > whom we will " journey " to. > > > > What's the alternative to the jyotir-lingas for a non Shaivite? > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > _____ > > > > [ SJC- Africa ] On > > ! Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > > > > > Dear Swee > > > > > > > > As signs are representing the dwadasa adityas, the dwadasa jyotirlingas, > > irrespective of your moon strength, the sun becomes important. And thus we > > should always take 360 deg solar years, or 365 days, and not savana years > > for Entry charts for RASI dasas. May be savana years for entry charts of > > nakshatra based dasas > > > > Best Regards > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/19/05, Swee Chan swee@c... wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Ah, got it. Makes sense. Thanks very much. > > > > > BTW, would you consider using 360 S! avana year for those whose Moon is > > strongest compared to Sun and Rasi. For a stronger Sun, then use the 360 deg > > year or 365.25 days Solar return. I guess if Rasi is strong, provided it is > > not Cancer rasi or Leo rasi, we would still be delineating from the Sun as > > it is the natural indicator for Atma, health, also all houses. > > > > Give me your thoughts. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > [ SJC- Africa ] On > > Behalf Of Partha Sarathy > > Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:01 AM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > > > > > Dear Swee > > > > > > > > The Dasa Starts at a particular time. If we ca! st a chart for the moment when > > dasa starts we get a lagna right? So when pisces dasa started, aquarius > > lagna was rising. The pisces mahadasa started with sagi antardasa. Even > > though sagi is 10th from Pisces, it is 11th from Aquarius in Dasa > > Pravesh(Entry chart) chart > > > > Best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Swee Chan < swee@c... < swee@c <swee@c> ... > > > wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > > > I'm too dumb to comprehend this. You said you are running Pisces mahadasa? > > Then why did you delineate from Aquarius? I note that the following: Say you > > > > are running Pisces, you orientate the beginning from its mooltrikona? > > > > Thank you for y our patience. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > > @! groups.com <http://groups.com/> [ ] On > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:37 PM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > Dear Swee > > > > Say Pisces narayan Dasa is running and it starts with Sagi antardasa, > > then in Dasa pravesh chakra we have to look at Sagi and look at the > > chart. Like that we have to take every antardasa and move forward and > > see what are the influences. > > > > In my case i got married in Pisces-Leo. Leo is 6th from Pisces and > > hence normally is not great. But if we take Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Leo > > is the 7th from DPC lagna(aquarius). And Leo also has mars who has > > exchanged places with 7th lord sun and thus has to give his results. > > > > Now this year i am running Pisces-Virgo. In Natal, virgo has moon the > > 8th lord. > > But in ! DPC, Virgo is 8th house with Rahu, SL, A6 and A11. That is why > > i have gained and also suffered from diseases, theft etc. Overall a > > mixed antardasa. > > > > I dont use Nakshatras much except for Deha Jeeva, > > but off late i am trying to use them more. > > > > Best Regards > > Partha > > > > , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > ..............and then? Detail it please. No nakshatras involved? > > You've > > > explained the intricacies before, but it went over my head <http://%20/> > > > > > > For those who like using Narayan Dasa, their Jupiter is in strength > > and > > > those who would rather refer to Jaimini, their Ketu's in > > strength..........> > Udu/Vimsottari - Moon of course. > > > > > > Love, > > > Swee > > > p/s Postponed my Congo trip. Going for a long weekend break > > instead <http://%20/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ SJC- <SJC-> > > Africa ] On > > > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > > > Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM > > > > > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa Pravesh Chakra > > > > > > You might of heard of it. Dasa pravesh chakra shows how the dasa > > would > > > Pan out . THis chakra is cast at the moment dasa starts. Most > > useful in > > > Rasi dasas(Sign based). > > > > > > With Narayan Dasa gives quite good results. Look at the placement > of > > > lagna from natal lagna. Lagna from the dasa sign. Placement of > > MOON. > > > Other factors should be read by taking individual sign for every > > > antardasa calculated. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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