rahu yuti saturn in 9th / remedy: RUBY gem?

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hare rama krishna

namaste dear Visti

 

I listen very nice lecture of you " malefics " ...

rather practical remedies

 

is " RUBY " suitable for this chart, karka lagna, Sun is 2nd lord in 5th in

gandanta and with AL? (December 14, 1968,21:00 -2gmt, 28 E 57' 00 " , 41 N 01'

00 " )

 

or diomand or topaz?

 

also would it be possible to correct me in written of mantras as I listen as:

" om gaurey nama " ? and " om matre nama " ?

 

(in record for saturn in 9th bhava people)

 

thanks by now.

best regards

 

rozi m taman

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ॠगà¥à¤°à¤µà¥‡ नमःDear Mutlu, Namaste.Whenever the Graha is in 5th house or lords fifth house I prefer not to give gemstones. For Saturn in ninth house you can advise Devi mantra. Is Saturn alone? How about 'om gouryai namah'?

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)www: http://srigaruda.comwww2: http://thejyotishdigest.com

@: visti

On 15 March 2010 16:34, vedic astrology by Rozi <astrologya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hare rama krishna

namaste dear Visti

 

I listen very nice lecture of you " malefics " ...

rather practical remedies

 

is " RUBY " suitable for this chart, karka lagna, Sun is 2nd lord in 5th in gandanta and with AL? (December 14, 1968,21:00 -2gmt, 28 E 57' 00 " , 41 N 01' 00 " )

 

or diomand or topaz?

 

also would it be possible to correct me in written of mantras as I listen as: " om gaurey nama " ? and " om matre nama " ?

 

(in record for saturn in 9th bhava people)

 

thanks by now.

best regards

 

rozi m taman

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

I must have missed this earlier- Why do you avoid stones for planet in 5th or

L5?

Strangely, I decided on my own not wear pearls/and corral/

long time ago, bcs of of my son /Cn lagna, Moon in 5th is difficult enough for a

child, I felt, then Mars in 4th is 12th from fifth, so I didn't like it

either...

I am wondering for quite sometime, if LL is in fifth, can a mother 'transfer'

benefits from herself to a child-

I feel that if this is communicated honestly /and with passion this can be

granted. But the Q here is if anyone is allowed to take on someone else's karma?

Remember story of a father who died instead of son, offered his life to a God-

it sounds like a fair deal to me?

 

Please tell me what you think about this, I'd love to hear your reasoning here.

 

Best wishes,

Anna

 

PS- How do you decipher lagna gandanta?

 

 

 

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ॠगà¥à¤°à¤µà¥‡ नमः

> Dear Mutlu, Namaste.

> Whenever the Graha is in 5th house or lords fifth house I prefer not to give

> gemstones. For Saturn in ninth house you can advise Devi mantra. Is Saturn

> alone? How about 'om gouryai namah'?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> www2: http://thejyotishdigest.com

> @: visti

>

>

> On 15 March 2010 16:34, vedic astrology by Rozi <astrologyawrote:

>

> >

> >

> > hare rama krishna

> > namaste dear Visti

> >

> > I listen very nice lecture of you " malefics " ...

> > rather practical remedies

> >

> > is " RUBY " suitable for this chart, karka lagna, Sun is 2nd lord in 5th in

> > gandanta and with AL? (December 14, 1968,21:00 -2gmt, 28 E 57' 00 " , 41 N 01'

> > 00 " )

> >

> > or diomand or topaz?

> >

> > also would it be possible to correct me in written of mantras as I listen

> > as: " om gaurey nama " ? and " om matre nama " ?

> >

> > (in record for saturn in 9th bhava people)

> >

> > thanks by now.

> > best regards

> >

> > rozi m taman

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ॠगà¥à¤°à¤µà¥‡ नमःDear Anna, Namaste.Glad to hear from you again.First reg. gemstones, the gemstones worn for the fifth house risk causing harm to ones children should they be inimical towards the lagna or its lord. So normally we advise Rudraksha's for that to be safe. Some Lagnas do not suffer from this problem.

Now, why are you asking me about transferring anything to anyone? You cannot share karma like a goody-bag, then how is it your souls karma?Yet, the example you cite is that of transferring longevity which is very rarely seen and is caused by certain positions of the Atmakaraka. Highly spiritual souls are able to give up their longevity for the sake of another person or even a lineage! We call this Viparīta Ayuṣ.

Lagnesh in the fifth house suffers a huge flaw when it comes to children. These people are either extremely attached or hate their children and the children cannot wait to run away! This is because wherever the Lagnesh is placed the native draws energy from the person indicated by that house, and in this case it implies that the person is leeching energy of their child. As a result the person becomes so very attached to the child, or once they realize what they are doing to the child they may begin a weird love-hate relationship towards them.

Best is to begin wearing a Rudraksha, worshipping Shiva and read the Gita regularly to avoid such a problem. I.e. if fifth lord is Mars placed in fourth house Libra, then a 4-mukhi rudraksha is recommended.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)www: http://srigaruda.comwww2: http://thejyotishdigest.com

@: visti

On 16 March 2010 20:58, bonamente108 <bonamente108 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

I must have missed this earlier- Why do you avoid stones for planet in 5th or L5?

Strangely, I decided on my own not wear pearls/and corral/

long time ago, bcs of of my son /Cn lagna, Moon in 5th is difficult enough for a child, I felt, then Mars in 4th is 12th from fifth, so I didn't like it either...

I am wondering for quite sometime, if LL is in fifth, can a mother 'transfer' benefits from herself to a child-

I feel that if this is communicated honestly /and with passion this can be granted. But the Q here is if anyone is allowed to take on someone else's karma?

Remember story of a father who died instead of son, offered his life to a God- it sounds like a fair deal to me?

 

Please tell me what you think about this, I'd love to hear your reasoning here.

 

Best wishes,

Anna

 

PS- How do you decipher lagna gandanta?

 

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ॠगॠरवे नमः

> Dear Mutlu, Namaste.

> Whenever the Graha is in 5th house or lords fifth house I prefer not to give

> gemstones. For Saturn in ninth house you can advise Devi mantra. Is Saturn

> alone? How about 'om gouryai namah'?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> www2: http://thejyotishdigest.com

> @: visti

>

>

> On 15 March 2010 16:34, vedic astrology by Rozi <astrologyawrote:

>

> >

> >

> > hare rama krishna

> > namaste dear Visti

> >

> > I listen very nice lecture of you " malefics " ...

> > rather practical remedies

> >

> > is " RUBY " suitable for this chart, karka lagna, Sun is 2nd lord in 5th in

> > gandanta and with AL? (December 14, 1968,21:00 -2gmt, 28 E 57' 00 " , 41 N 01'

> > 00 " )

> >

> > or diomand or topaz?

> >

> > also would it be possible to correct me in written of mantras as I listen

> > as: " om gaurey nama " ? and " om matre nama " ?

> >

> > (in record for saturn in 9th bhava people)

> >

> > thanks by now.

> > best regards

> >

> > rozi m taman

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Vistiji ,

 

 

 

Could you explain little more about lagnesh taking energy from the house it is placed in.

 

1. What if there are 2 lagnesh and both are strong .And 1 is placed in 5th house and other in 10th .

 

2 what if lagnesh in 5th is also AK.

 

Regards,

Jyoti

 

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] rahu yuti saturn in 9th / remedy: RUBY gem?"" Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 9:43 AM

ॠगà¥à¤°à¤µà¥‡ नमः

Dear Anna, Namaste.

Glad to hear from you again.

First reg. gemstones, the gemstones worn for the fifth house risk causing harm to ones children should they be inimical towards the lagna or its lord. So normally we advise Rudraksha's for that to be safe. Some Lagnas do not suffer from this problem.

 

Now, why are you asking me about transferring anything to anyone? You cannot share karma like a goody-bag, then how is it your souls karma?

Yet, the example you cite is that of transferring longevity which is very rarely seen and is caused by certain positions of the Atmakaraka. Highly spiritual souls are able to give up their longevity for the sake of another person or even a lineage! We call this Viparīta Ayuṣ.

 

Lagnesh in the fifth house suffers a huge flaw when it comes to children. These people are either extremely attached or hate their children and the children cannot wait to run away! This is because wherever the Lagnesh is placed the native draws energy from the person indicated by that house, and in this case it implies that the person is leeching energy of their child. As a result the person becomes so very attached to the child, or once they realize what they are doing to the child they may begin a weird love-hate relationship towards them.

Best is to begin wearing a Rudraksha, worshipping Shiva and read the Gita regularly to avoid such a problem. I.e. if fifth lord is Mars placed in fourth house Libra, then a 4-mukhi rudraksha is recommended.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)www: http://srigaruda. comwww2: http://thejyotishdi gest.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

On 16 March 2010 20:58, bonamente108 <bonamente108@ > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Visti,I must have missed this earlier- Why do you avoid stones for planet in 5th or L5? Strangely, I decided on my own not wear pearls/and corral/ long time ago, bcs of of my son /Cn lagna, Moon in 5th is difficult enough for a child, I felt, then Mars in 4th is 12th from fifth, so I didn't like it either...I am wondering for quite sometime, if LL is in fifth, can a mother 'transfer' benefits from herself to a child- I feel that if this is communicated honestly /and with passion this can be granted. But the Q here is if anyone is allowed to take on someone else's karma? Remember story of a father who died instead of son, offered his life to a God- it sounds like a fair deal to me?Please tell me what you think about this, I'd love to hear your reasoning here.Best wishes,AnnaPS- How do you decipher lagna gandanta?, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ॠगॠरवे नमः

> Dear Mutlu, Namaste.> Whenever the Graha is in 5th house or lords fifth house I prefer not to give> gemstones. For Saturn in ninth house you can advise Devi mantra. Is Saturn> alone? How about 'om gouryai namah'?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)> www: http://srigaruda. com> www2: http://thejyotishdi gest.com> @: visti > > On 15 March 2010 16:34, vedic astrology by Rozi <astrologya@. ..>wrote:

> > >> >> > hare rama krishna> > namaste dear Visti> >> > I listen very nice lecture of you "malefics"...> > rather practical remedies> >> > is "RUBY" suitable for this chart, karka lagna, Sun is 2nd lord in 5th in> > gandanta and with AL? (December 14, 1968,21:00 -2gmt, 28 E 57' 00", 41 N 01'> > 00" )> >> > or diomand or topaz?> >> > also would it be possible to correct me in written of mantras as I listen> > as: "om gaurey nama"? and "om matre nama"?> >> > (in record for saturn in 9th bhava people)> >> > thanks by now.> > best regards> >> > rozi m taman> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Respected Vistiji, Annaji,Jyotiji

Its quite a coincidence that I came to this site today so many months later and

found this discussion! I have lagnesha in 5th myself and it is AK.

 

Can I ask a clarification here. In the discussion so far, by 'parents', who is

being referred to: the parents of the native with this chart, or the parent that

the native with this placement will become and the way his/her own children will

experience them.

 

Vistiji seems to refer to the latter while Annaji seems to refer to the former.

 

Thanks

Shiv

 

, SAR108 <bonamente108 wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Jyoti,

>  

> Visti Will tel you more-

> I just want to share my experience- Lagnesh in 5th, even if AK, makes parent

overbearing, controlling, with imagined omnipotency /to protect a child from any

negative experiences/, developing dependency, not trusting child's potential

enough to let it go, thus perhaps robbing a child of initiative,  growth

opportunities...Does it sound like

> 'leeching 5th'? as Visti said?

>  

> Of course, parents have reasons to believe that they must do that 'for the

child's sake' /self-fulfilling prophecy?/...It's hard for them to acknowledge

separateness, independence and trust  child's own destiny, /even if it is

painful/.

>  

> Sometimes external events create the situation where all these issues find a

fertile ground to grow  but it seems that it was destined to happen...

>

> Hard parenting lesson., indeed.

> I cannot think of any other placement of Lagnesh in any H.  to match

maleficence of this one, and demanding so much energy to deal with.

>  

> / it is pradaba karma, after all/

>  

> Regards,

> Anna

>

>  

>  

> - On Wed, 3/17/10, Jyoti Choudhary <choudharyjyoti70 wrote:

>

>

> Jyoti Choudhary <choudharyjyoti70

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] rahu yuti saturn in 9th / remedy: RUBY gem?

>

> Received: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 5:49 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

 

> Namaste Vistiji ,

>  

>  

>  

> Could you explain little more about lagnesh taking energy from the house it

is placed in.

>  

> 1.  What if there are 2 lagnesh and both are strong .And 1 is placed in 5th

house and other in 10th .

>  

> 2  what if lagnesh in 5th is also AK.

>  

> Regards,

> Jyoti

>  

> --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] rahu yuti saturn in 9th / remedy: RUBY gem?

> " " <>

> Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 9:43 AM

>

>

>  

>

> ॠगà¥à¤°à¤µà¥‡ नमः

> Dear Anna, Namaste.

> Glad to hear from you again.

> First reg. gemstones, the gemstones worn for the fifth house risk causing harm

to ones children should they be inimical towards the lagna or its lord. So

normally we advise Rudraksha's for that to be safe. Some Lagnas do not suffer

from this problem.

>

>

> Now, why are you asking me about transferring anything to anyone? You cannot

share karma like a goody-bag, then how is it your souls karma?

> Yet, the example you cite is that of transferring longevity which is very

rarely seen and is caused by certain positions of the Atmakaraka. Highly

spiritual souls are able to give up their longevity for the sake of another

person or even a lineage! We call this Viparīta Ayuṣ.

>

>

> Lagnesh in the fifth house suffers a huge flaw when it comes to children.

These people are either extremely attached or hate their children and the

children cannot wait to run away! This is because wherever the Lagnesh is placed

the native draws energy from the person indicated by that house, and in this

case it implies that the person is leeching energy of their child. As a result

the person becomes so very attached to the child, or once they realize what they

are doing to the child they may begin a weird love-hate relationship towards

them.

> Best is to begin wearing a Rudraksha, worshipping Shiva and read the Gita

regularly to avoid such a problem. I.e. if fifth lord is Mars placed in fourth

house Libra, then a 4-mukhi rudraksha is recommended.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda. com

> www2: http://thejyotishdi gest.com

> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

>

>

> On 16 March 2010 20:58, bonamente108 <bonamente108@ > wrote:

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> I must have missed this earlier- Why do you avoid stones for planet in 5th or

L5?

> Strangely, I decided on my own not wear pearls/and corral/

> long time ago, bcs of of my son /Cn lagna, Moon in 5th is difficult enough for

a child, I felt, then Mars in 4th is 12th from fifth, so I didn't like it

either...

> I am wondering for quite sometime, if LL is in fifth, can a mother 'transfer'

benefits from herself to a child-

> I feel that if this is communicated honestly /and with passion this can be

granted. But the Q here is if anyone is allowed to take on someone else's karma?

> Remember story of a father who died instead of son, offered his life to a God-

it sounds like a fair deal to me?

>

> Please tell me what you think about this, I'd love to hear your reasoning

here.

>

> Best wishes,

> Anna

>

> PS- How do you decipher lagna gandanta?

>

> , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:

> >

> > ॠआ" ॠरवे नमà¤Æ'

>

> > Dear Mutlu, Namaste.

> > Whenever the Graha is in 5th house or lords fifth house I prefer not to give

> > gemstones. For Saturn in ninth house you can advise Devi mantra. Is Saturn

> > alone? How about 'om gouryai namah'?

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > www: http://srigaruda. com

> > www2: http://thejyotishdi gest.com

> > @: visti@

> >

> >

> > On 15 March 2010 16:34, vedic astrology by Rozi <astrologya@ ..>wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > hare rama krishna

> > > namaste dear Visti

> > >

> > > I listen very nice lecture of you " malefics " .. .

> > > rather practical remedies

> > >

> > > is " RUBY " suitable for this chart, karka lagna, Sun is 2nd lord in 5th in

> > > gandanta and with AL? (December 14, 1968,21:00 -2gmt, 28 E 57' 00 " , 41 N

01'

> > > 00 " )

> > >

> > > or diomand or topaz?

> > >

> > > also would it be possible to correct me in written of mantras as I listen

> > > as: " om gaurey nama " ? and " om matre nama " ?

> > >

> > > (in record for saturn in 9th bhava people)

> > >

> > > thanks by now.

> > > best regards

> > >

> > > rozi m taman

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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