[Jagannath] Suicide Case - Narayana Dasa

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Namaste Brendan,

 

> Namaste Narasimha, I'm submitting this case using n-dasa first. Will submit

> it using Mandooka dasa and Shoola dasa in next few days. Your guidance would

> be much appreciated here, esp in calculations and also with your

> intrepretation or comments on why event happened using n-dasa.

>

> This native committed sucide on April 6, 1988. Birth info: Dec 7, 1954, 2:13

> AM, Minneapolis, MN (Time Zone 6:00 hrs, 93w15, 44n58). I received the data

> from her brother some years ago at an astrological conference. She was in

> Moon/Ketu/Rahu/Moon in Vimshotari dasa at the time of the event and a

> noteworthy transit was Jupiter over her Moon within a degree.

 

Before we proceed, let us first conduct a sanity check on the reliability of the

data!

 

(1) The 3rd house from AL (arudha lagna) in rasi chart shows the broad

circumstances of death. For example, 3rd from AL in Pi may give death related to

water (e.g. falling in a sea or river). More importantly, aspect/conjunction of

a malefic like Mars or Rahu is necessary for a violent death. Here 3rd from AL

is Pi and it has aspects of debilitated Rahu and Ketu (from Sg and Ge

respectively). That can give a violent death.

 

(2) End of the physical existence is best reflected in Rudramsa (D-11). The 8th

house in it shows how Rudra destroys the longevity of the native. For a violent

end, 8th in D-11 (or lagna in D-11) must be under malefic influences. Here D-11

has lagna in Ta. The 8th house (Sg) has Rahu and the 2nd (Ge) has Saturn and

Ketu. Mars (7th lord) aspects both. So, Mars, Saturn and nodes are all involved

with 2nd/8th axis. This can give a violent end.

 

(3) Suicide may come after a lot of mental turmoil and suffering. Such internal

suffering is shown in D-30. In fact, D-30 is an important chart for seeing

mental disorders and vulnerabilities. It shows suffering, disease and

abnormality in the subconscious plane.

 

Here Moon is with nodes in Sg! Saturn and 8th lord Venus aspect them from in Ge.

All the planets aspect lagna. They also aspect lagna lord and an extremely

strong 7th lord, who are together in 7th (house of death). So key houses and

Moon are badly afflicted by Saturn and nodes. This can give death after a lot of

turmoil.

 

So the birthdata passes the basic sanity checks and we can proceed further.

 

> Narayana Dasha applied to D-1

>

> Vi is stronger than Pi (Me has advanced more degrees than Jupiter), so start

> from Vi. Forward direction and progression is 1st, 5th, 9th, etc.

>

> Vi 11 - 1 = 10 yrs, 12/54 - 12/64

> Cp 4 - 1 + 1 = 4 yrs, 12/64 - 12/68

> Ta 6 - 1 = 5 yrs, 12/68 - 12/73

> Ge 6 - 1 = 5 yrs, 12/73 - 12/78

> Li 12 = 12 yrs 12/78 - 12/90

>

> Antaradasa for L: Li stronger than Ar as AK is in Li. Zodiacial and

> progression is regular.

>

> Li/Li 12 mos 17/78 - 12/79

> ........... etc

> Li/Cn 12/87 - 12/88

>

> Pratyantara for event is Li/Cn/Cn.

>

> Why do Libra and Cancer become powerful maraka dasas in this case?

> - Jupiter, a maraka planet for the chart, is lord of Mrityu pada. Its

> dispositor is in the 8th house.

> - The AK is placed in Li and the GK (Mars) who is a potent malefic for this

> chart aspects Li and Cn.

> - Note the exchange between A2 and A11?

 

More importantly, remember the *basics*!

 

The 3rd and 8th houses are the houses of longevity. If they are *weak*,

longevity is troubled. OTOH, the 2nd and 7th houses are the houses of death. If

they are *strong*, longevity is troubled. Parasara is very clear that 2nd and

7th are the most important killer houses.

 

Here Li is the 2nd house and it is occupied by its lord and exalted 6th lord.

(Still it is not a very strong candidate for giving death. A sign with an

exalted atma karaka and jeevana karaka Saturn may not give death.)

 

Jupiter owns the other killer house - 7th. He is also Maheswara in this chart.

He is exalted in Cn. Moreover, as you say, lord of Cn is in 8th. In fact, Cn

stands out as a killer house. Sg with Rahu and mrityu pada is another good

candidate and the other candidate is Pi. Pi is 7th from lagna and 3rd from AL.

It is another strong candidate. In fact, Libra is less of a candidate than these

three, despite being a strong 2nd house.

 

One more comment: Narayana dasa is a phalita dasa. Ayur dasas show death better.

Narayana dasa shows sustenance just as Narayana stands for sustenance among the

Trinity. However, shades of death may be visible in one's sustenance before

death, if it a suicide. In such cases, Narayana dasa may show death. Otherwise,

don't use Narayana dasa at all. Use shoola dasa etc. Shiva (who uses shoola as a

weapon) rules over death and Narayana rules over sustenance.

 

> D30 - Narayana dasa

> Expunge 12, 6 remains and the 6th lord is Saturn. Saturn is in Ge. Start D-30

> n-dasa from Ge or Sg.

> Saturn is AK so start from Ge. Anti-zodiacial and progression is 1, 5, 9.

 

To my knowledge, AK's presence (rule 1 of strength) is used in dasas that use AK

(for example, " Atma Karaka Kendradi Rasi Dasa " ). So Sg with 3 planets is

stronger than Ge with 2 planets. Start dasas from Sg and not Ge.

 

Even if you take Ge, your calculations are wrong. Because Ge has Saturn, " Saturn

exception " applies. Instead of going as Ge, Aq, Li, Vi, Ta, Cp etc, dasas go as

Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li etc. Saturn in dasa start sign makes dasas go in the regular

order (Ar, Ta, Ge etc). Ketu in dasa start sign reverses the order (if it is Sg,

Le, Ar, Pi, Sc, Cn etc, it becomes Sg, Ar, Le, Vi, Cp, Ta etc with Ketu in Sg).

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Ge 4 - 1 = 3 yrs 12/54 - 12/57

> Aq 9 - 1 = 8 yrs 12/57 - 12/65

> Li 9 - 1 = 8 yrs 12/65 - 12/73

> Vi 12 - 0 = 12 yrs 12/73 - 12/85

> Ta 2 - 1 = 1 yrs 12/85 - 12/86

> Cp 8 - 1 = 7 yrs 12/86 - 12/93

>

> Event in Cp dasa. Antaradasas of Cp: Cp is stronger, Saturn is in Ge, so

> start dasa from there.

> Cp/Ge 12/86 - 7/87

> Cp/Cn 7/87 - 2/88

> Cp/Le 2/88 - 9/88 - Event

>

> Pratyantara dasha in Cp/Le: Aq is stronger, Saturn is in Ge, start from Ge.

>

> Ge 2/4/88 - 2/21/88

> Cn 2/21/88 - 3/10/88

> Le 3/10/88 - 3/27/88

> Vi 3/27/88 - 4/14/88 - Event

>

> Sookshma-antardasa in Cp/Le/Vi: Vi is stronger, Mercury placed in Vi, so

> start there.

>

> Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi.

> Using RDD, Pi ran 4/5/88 - 4/7/88

>

> So narayana dasha for D-30 was Cp/Le/Vi/Pi

>

> Why is this dasha in D-30 troublesome???

> Some observations. Please comment!

> - Note dasa/bhukti is 8th/3rd from AK.

> - Sun is natural significator of Atma and is placed in 1st house as lord of

> 8th, and lord of 6th from lagna.

> - AK is lord of Cp dasa and is conjoined with 8th lord and aspected by Rahu,

> Ketu &

> - Moon from Sg, and Mercury and Jupiter from Vi, both marakas in this chart.

> Saturn is also lord of Mrityu pada.

>

> Regards, Brendan