Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear YND, I cound not have done it better. I will only add that " like all roads lead to Rome, all Bhakti's lead to Jagannatha Mahaprabhu. Thus if the native wishes to worship Mother Mary, it is only a question of time or a few births before he/she worships Gouri (Go-Shakti or the Holy Mother represented by the Holy Cow), and then sooner or later when His flute shall play (..Govallabhaya Swaha), the Holy Cow shall run towards Krishna. Thus, it is only a question of time. Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath - YND <vedant <varahamihira > Saturday, September 11, 1999 6:01 PM Re: Did you receive the messages? > Dear Gauranga! > > Hare Krsihna! Jaya Jagannath! > > I am sure Sanjay Prabhu will give a proper answer. At the same time as he > suggested I want to take advantage of it as this list is for studying > Jyotish and a good way of studying is speaking and discussing. It makes you > better understand the subject. So here are my 2 penny I learnt from Sanjay > Prabhu and from Srila Prabhupada, as well as from my own realizations. > Please Sanjay Prabhu and everbody on the list make your comments and > corrections. > > >I am now on the list. Should I send all my further questions here? I have > one after reading Yasomati Nandan's posting. I've seen in a few places > mantioned that we can determine the faith or religion or Ishta Devata of a > person from the chart. How is this working in actuality? Because we have > devas for the planets and Vaikuntha Avatars as well. So how we determine > whther the person will be a demigod-worshipper or a Vaishnava? > >Like I have Mars as Atmakarak, but I'm not attracted so much to > Nrisimhadev. I'm more attracted to worship Lord Caitanya (aka my name, > Gauranga das). > > > YND: Different planets manifest different energies which all originally come > from Krishna. And Krishna Himself manifests these energies more specifically > in His different forms or Avataras. So you can simply remember that the > original pure Martian energy is manifested by the Lord in it's form of Lord > Nrisimhadev. You will feel the influence of all those energies in your life > anyway and if you don't see Krsihna behind them then they will remain impure > and will keep you conditioned. > > BTW Atmakarak has nothing to do with one's ista-Devata. As I could > understand the Devata principle is that which gives us light, that which > helps us towards liberation (personal or impersonal is up to you). So > Ista-devata is seen from the 12th from AK in Navamsa. It is a house of > liberation. If it is affected by any planets then those energies will > interfere on your way to liberation. So you have to do something with them - > either to worship the respective devatas who are ultimately all devotees and > will gradually bring you to the point of understanding Krishna. Or to > ultimately purify this energy in your consciousness by relating it to it's > original soruce. > > It is great that you are attracted to worship Lord Chaitanya. Please give me > your blessings that I may also be attracted. So it is better for you. Srila > Prabhupada taught us the Lord Caitanya is Krishna Himself. So He is the > source of all incarnations. So He manifests all the moods of all > incarnations. If you speak of Lord Nrisimhadev, you can remember different > Lord Caitanya's pastimes where He manifested this mood - like his first > revealing Himself to Srivasa Thakura (refer to Caitanya Bhagavat, somewhere > Madhya) or story with Chand Kazi. > > >Also there are other people, who are christians or moslems or whatever. How > does this fit in the Jyotish chart? > > > You can do this in the similar way like I tried to explain above. In one of > Sanjay Prabhu's books he gives the idea that for a Christian he can worship > Virgin Mary for Moon etc. > > In general, as I understand what you can see from the chart by your naked > eye is the manifestation of your spirituality in this material realm. > Whether it has bhakti behind or not you can see only if you are a pure > devotee yourself - by the mercy of Guru and Krishna. " To that great great > soul who has implicit fatih in both guru and Krishna all truths are > automatically revealed " . I remember one of the nice answers to one of my > questions by Sanjay Prabhu, " By the mercy of Sri Jagannath I never fail " > > So everything ultimately depends upon your motives, your sincerety, your > surrender, to some extent upon your efforts, and of course on Krishna's > mercy. The first three things you know better yourself. So you can sort > things out in your heart and see for youself. And if your motives are > bona-fide then just embark on the boat given by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu: > > trinad api sunicena > taror api sahisnuna > amanaina manadena > kirtaniya sada harih > > And let Krishna determine what results will be the best for you. > > your servant > Yasomatinandana das > > > ------ > MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. > Start with up to 150 Points for joining! > http://clickhere./click/805 > > > eGroups.com home: varahamihira > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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