Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Visti, You were correct. But then this means that Narasimha's JH Alpha does the wrong calculation ofr Narayan Dasa in D-charts. It still gives the Dasa sequence that I mentioned. Please Narasimha, can we have some clarification? I also noticed that your software ignores the rules for the sign with AK being stronger in any case and the sign lorded by AK being stronger than the one lorded by another planet. Should these rules not be used in determining starting point of Dasa? Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone:+36-309-140-839 -----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Visti Larsen Címzett: vedic astrology ; varahamihira Elküldve: 2001. január 6. 14:11 Tárgy: Sv: [sri Guru] The Power of Jyotish (Naryana Dasa) Om Krishna Guru Namaste. I had answered this mail, but it has been delayed obviously. Karu's calculations are like my own, thus no error. Even if saturn couldn't dominate sun, the order would still be zodiacal, for leo. Gauranga your error was that you anticipated Leo as a movable sign, fixed signs advance every 6th. Correct this and get back to me. Best wishes, Visti. - Karu varahamihira Cc: Vedic Astrology Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:40 AM Re: [sri Guru] The Power of Jyotish (Naryana Dasa) Jaya Jaya Jagannath, Namasthe Gauranga and Visti, Me too noticed this error and asked kindly send the chart to discuss as I simply thought my chart calculation is wrong. How we learn without discuss ? Your D9 chart as follows. Lagna, Sun & Saturn in Leo, Venus in libra, Jupiter Mars in scorpio, Ketu in Capricorn, Moon in aquaries, Mercury in Taurus, Rahu in Cancer. Lord of the 9th is Moon in the 7th house of D9. Leo is stronger with two planets and Leo initiate D9 Narayana dasa Reguler and Zodiacally as Saturn in it. But ther is very important rule here. AS SATURN CANNOT DOMINATE SUN, DASA SEQUENCE CANNOT COUNT REGULER AND ZODIACLLY. Acording to my understanding your D9 Narayana dasa as follows. Leo 12 years 1981 -1993 Capricorn 05 years 1993-1998 Gemini 11years 1998- 2009. and so on. I am looking forward your comments if I am wrong. The rule is clearly mentioned in COVA but for antar dasa only. I believe This must be apply for Mahadasa too. I feel I am totally lost in the Asrama, without having reply for my questions from any one including My Guru Sarat and Sanjay Guru too. thanks, Hare Krshna Karu I get a completely different D-9 Narayana Dasa. It should begin from the sign ocuppied in D-9 by the 9th lord in D-1or the 7th from it. 9th lord in D-1 is Moon, which is in Aquarius, but Leo is stronger. So D-9 ND begins from Leo (81-93) then Virgo (93-97) and then Libra (97-2009). Som mahadasa should be Libra not Aries. I also give antardasas that Narasimha's software caculates for your information: Li-Cap-Cn began on that very date at 16.53 pm (should subtract two hours if you wish). Sookshma dasa is Leo, and Prana is Leo till 21.47 and then Virgo till 02.42 next day. Will you get the same reading with this Narayana dasa? Ar Maha Dasa: Aries Maha dasa shows the potential for a number of events, offcourse. Ar is in trines to Navamsa Lagna showing the potential for alot of shared Dharma with other people, esepcially members of the opposite sex(Mars with DaraPada, and lord of 7th from Upapada and 5th lord).. etc etc.. Pi Antar Dasa: Pisces is interestingly enough in 7th from Upapada, allthough being in 12th from Mahadasa sign and 8th from Lagna, this shows potential for many changing events dealing with meeting of spouse. Pisces, is also in trines to DaraPada, 5th lord, and its own lord. Also being in trines to 9th lord, shows that the trouble indicated by 8th house, gives rise in Dharma. Le PratyAntar Dasa(now this gets interesting): Leo is lagna in Navamsa and has own lord and 7th lord, and recieves argalas from Upapada, DaraPada, 9th lord, and Jupiter who's lord of 7th from upapada and 5th lord. Sookshma Dasa of Scorpio shows that events pertaining to Meeting spouse(Lord of 7th from Upapada), and general short relationships(lord of 5th house), rise in Dharma(9th lord), and lots of other stuff. Prana Dasas. At the time of the meeting with the girl, I was running Leo Prana Dasa. Leo has 7th lord, and own lord. Saturn being involved shows that the person met isn't completely sincere with me, and Argalas to leo show where this meeting will head. Argalas from Ju show that this will be a short relationship, however being 7th from Upapada, will show the bringing of the spouse? interesting.. Mars giving rise to Dharma. And Darapada is also involved. Upapada also gives argala, which is an interesting observation to look for. Real life events: Indeed she was insencere, as she had made an excuse to get to meet me at another time, at which the true nature of the meeting was found. The relationship started on the 28th-December. Cn Prana Dasa started shortly after. Cn being a liquid sign and contains Rahu shows consumption of Alcohol, and being in 6th from 7th house shows that the person would suffer an ailment due to this consumption. Also being in 12th from my Lagna and containing Atmakarak, along with recieving argalas from my Lagna, shows that along with getting this girl drunk I also helped her to rid her of the ailment, which resulted in vomiting, note the 5th from Cn. I hope this presentation of Narayana Dasa's use, will spark some enlightenment in others. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 Namaste Gauranga, If Saturn occupies dasa start sign (Leo here), JH automatically applies Saturn exception. Here Saturn is in Le with Sun and one can argue that Saturn exception does not apply because Sun controls Saturn. But JH does not take those factors into consideration. It only sees if Saturn or Ketu is in dasa start rasi. It applies the corresponding exception if one of them is there. If both are present, it applies the exception of the stronger planet. JH ignores the rules involving AK also, as that was my understanding. Recently, Sanjay told me to give preference to AK as the last step when judging the stronger of Saturn/Rahu or Mars/Ketu (after seeing the number of planets with them, aspects of Jupiter etc, exaltation and movable/fixed/dual signs). I will add it. JH calculations are only as good as my understanding at the time of coding it. That is why I gave a lot of options. Click the options button in dasa window (above dasa calculations). " Stronger of Le & Aq: " should say " Leo " and " Saturn exception " . Change " Saturn exception " to " No exception " . Then the exception will not be used and you will get dasas as Le, Cp, Ge, Sc etc instead of Le, Vi, Li etc. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha PS: Only SJVC gurus have JH now. Others can get it after it is finished. So please be patient. varahamihira , " Gauranga Das " <gauranga@w...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Visti, > > You were correct. But then this means that Narasimha's JH Alpha does the wrong calculation ofr Narayan Dasa in D-charts. It still gives the Dasa sequence that I mentioned. Please Narasimha, can we have some clarification? I also noticed that your software ignores the rules for the sign with AK being stronger in any case and the sign lorded by AK being stronger than the one lorded by another planet. Should these rules not be used in determining starting point of Dasa? > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > <gauranga@w...> > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > -----Eredeti üzenet----- > Feladó: Visti Larsen > Címzett: vedic astrology ; varahamihira > Elküldve: 2001. január 6. 14:11 > Tárgy: Sv: [sri Guru] The Power of Jyotish (Naryana Dasa) > > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste. > > I had answered this mail, but it has been delayed obviously. > > Karu's calculations are like my own, thus no error. > Even if saturn couldn't dominate sun, the order would still be zodiacal, for leo. > > Gauranga your error was that you anticipated Leo as a movable sign, fixed signs advance every 6th. > > Correct this and get back to me. > > Best wishes, Visti. > - > Karu > varahamihira > Cc: Vedic Astrology > Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:40 AM > Re: [sri Guru] The Power of Jyotish (Naryana Dasa) > > > Jaya Jaya Jagannath, > > Namasthe Gauranga and Visti, > > Me too noticed this error and asked kindly send the chart to discuss as I simply thought my chart calculation is wrong. How we learn without discuss ? > > Your D9 chart as follows. > > Lagna, Sun & Saturn in Leo, Venus in libra, Jupiter Mars in scorpio, Ketu in Capricorn, Moon in aquaries, Mercury in Taurus, Rahu in Cancer. > > Lord of the 9th is Moon in the 7th house of D9. Leo is stronger with two planets and Leo initiate D9 Narayana dasa Reguler and Zodiacally as Saturn in it. But ther is very important rule here. > AS SATURN CANNOT DOMINATE SUN, DASA SEQUENCE CANNOT COUNT REGULER AND ZODIACLLY. > > Acording to my understanding your D9 Narayana dasa as follows. > > Leo 12 years 1981 -1993 > Capricorn 05 years 1993-1998 > Gemini 11years 1998- 2009. and so on. > > I am looking forward your comments if I am wrong. The rule is clearly mentioned in COVA but for antar dasa only. I believe This must be apply for Mahadasa too. > > I feel I am totally lost in the Asrama, without having reply for my questions from any one including My Guru Sarat and Sanjay Guru too. > > thanks, > Hare Krshna > > Karu > > I get a completely different D-9 Narayana Dasa. It should begin from the sign ocuppied in D-9 by the 9th lord in D-1or the 7th from it. 9th lord in D-1 is Moon, which is in Aquarius, but Leo is stronger. So D-9 ND begins from Leo (81-93) then Virgo (93-97) and then Libra (97-2009). Som mahadasa should be Libra not Aries. I also give antardasas that Narasimha's software caculates for your information: Li-Cap-Cn began on that very date at 16.53 pm (should subtract two hours if you wish). Sookshma dasa is Leo, and Prana is Leo till 21.47 and then Virgo till 02.42 next day. > > Will you get the same reading with this Narayana dasa? > > > > Ar Maha Dasa: > Aries Maha dasa shows the potential for a number of events, offcourse. > > Ar is in trines to Navamsa Lagna showing the potential for alot of shared Dharma with other people, esepcially members of the opposite sex(Mars with DaraPada, and lord of 7th from Upapada and 5th lord).. etc etc.. > > > > > > Pi Antar Dasa: > Pisces is interestingly enough in 7th from Upapada, allthough being in 12th from Mahadasa sign and 8th from Lagna, this shows potential for many changing events dealing with meeting of spouse. Pisces, is also in trines to DaraPada, 5th lord, and its own lord. Also being in trines to 9th lord, shows that the trouble indicated by 8th house, gives rise in Dharma. > > Le PratyAntar Dasa(now this gets interesting): > Leo is lagna in Navamsa and has own lord and 7th lord, and recieves argalas from Upapada, DaraPada, 9th lord, and Jupiter who's lord of 7th from upapada and 5th lord. > > Sookshma Dasa of Scorpio shows that events pertaining to Meeting spouse(Lord of 7th from Upapada), and general short relationships(lord of 5th house), rise in Dharma(9th lord), and lots of other stuff. > > Prana Dasas. > At the time of the meeting with the girl, I was running Leo Prana Dasa. Leo has 7th lord, and own lord. Saturn being involved shows that the person met isn't completely sincere with me, and Argalas to leo show where this meeting will head. > > Argalas from Ju show that this will be a short relationship, however being 7th from Upapada, will show the bringing of the spouse? interesting.. > Mars giving rise to Dharma. And Darapada is also involved. Upapada also gives argala, which is an interesting observation to look for. > > Real life events: > Indeed she was insencere, as she had made an excuse to get to meet me at another time, at which the true nature of the meeting was found. The relationship started on the 28th-December. > > Cn Prana Dasa started shortly after. Cn being a liquid sign and contains Rahu shows consumption of Alcohol, and being in 6th from 7th house shows that the person would suffer an ailment due to this consumption. Also being in 12th from my Lagna and containing Atmakarak, along with recieving argalas from my Lagna, shows that along with getting this girl drunk I also helped her to rid her of the ailment, which resulted in vomiting, note the 5th from Cn. > > I hope this presentation of Narayana Dasa's use, will spark some enlightenment in others. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > eGroups Sponsor > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Narasimha, Namaste. > Namaste Gauranga, > > If Saturn occupies dasa start sign (Leo here), JH automatically > applies Saturn exception. Here Saturn is in Le with Sun and one can > argue that Saturn exception does not apply because Sun controls > Saturn. But JH does not take those factors into consideration. It > only sees if Saturn or Ketu is in dasa start rasi. It applies the > corresponding exception if one of them is there. If both are present, > it applies the exception of the stronger planet. > > JH ignores the rules involving AK also, as that was my understanding. > Recently, Sanjay told me to give preference to AK as the last step > when judging the stronger of Saturn/Rahu or Mars/Ketu (after seeing > the number of planets with them, aspects of Jupiter etc, exaltation > and movable/fixed/dual signs). I will add it. > > JH calculations are only as good as my understanding at the time of > coding it. That is why I gave a lot of options. Click the options > button in dasa window (above dasa calculations). " Stronger of Le & > Aq: " should say " Leo " and " Saturn exception " . Change " Saturn > exception " to " No exception " . Then the exception will not be used and > you will get dasas as Le, Cp, Ge, Sc etc instead of Le, Vi, Li etc. Thank you. I have two questions. 1. Is Saturn exception really not applicable when Saturn is in Leo? Is there any toher sign for saturn or Ketu where their exception do not apply? Is this rule applicable to Mahdasas? 2. My understanding was that Saturn/Ketu exception only changes the direction, and not the succession. But for this calculation the direction remains and the succession changes. Am I missing something? Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone:+36-309-140-839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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