Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 Dear Jaan, As follows. From 1815 to 1st of July 1905 Madras Mean Time (82E15) From 1st of july 1905 to 1942 TZ wa 5.30 (82E30) From 05th of Jan 1942 midnight- to 31st Aug 1942 midnight +00.30mins From 31st Aug 1942 midnight- to 14th Oct 1945 midnight - another +00.30mins From 14th Oct 1945 to 24th May 1996 it was normal (TZ 5.30- 82E30) Again, 24th of May 1996 midnight to 25th Oct 1996 +01.00 housr 25th Oct 1996 to up to date -00.30mins. Please use TZ as 6.00 hours after 25th Oct 1996 If you use ACS atlas, I have given this all. Otherwise use this and keep a hard copy. Hope this will help you. Good Luck Karu >Does anyone know how much clocks were adjusted by during the second >world war? >im looking for the year 1941 in sri lanka > >love >Jaan > > > > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 Dear Jaan, I am not sure about any other places to double check. This all extacted from a pachang done by one of the fine Jyotish. Hare Krshna Karu jaan911 <jaan911 varahamihira <varahamihira > Saturday, November 18, 2000 10:07 PM [sri Guru] Re: Sri lankan times >Dear Karu > >thanx very much for the info. >the reason was that someone told me that their chart in june 1941 was >subject alterations due to different war timings enforced. >your info seems to suggest a change was made to the standard 5 30 hrs >after jan 1942, not before. > >is there anywhere i can double check the records? > >love >Jaan > > >varahamihira , " Karu " <heen@t...> wrote: >> Dear Jaan, >> >> As follows. >> >> >> From 1815 to 1st of July 1905 Madras Mean Time (82E15) >> From 1st of july 1905 to 1942 TZ wa 5.30 (82E30) >> >> From 05th of Jan 1942 midnight- to 31st Aug 1942 midnight >+00.30mins >> From 31st Aug 1942 midnight- to 14th Oct 1945 midnight - another >+00.30mins >> >> From 14th Oct 1945 to 24th May 1996 it was normal (TZ 5.30- 82E30) >> >> >> Again, >> 24th of May 1996 midnight to 25th Oct 1996 +01.00 housr >> 25th Oct 1996 to up to date -00.30mins. >> >> Please use TZ as 6.00 hours after 25th Oct 1996 >> >> If you use ACS atlas, I have given this all. Otherwise use this and >keep a >> hard copy. Hope this will help you. >> >> Good Luck >> >> Karu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Does anyone know how much clocks were adjusted by during the second >> >world war? >> >im looking for the year 1941 in sri lanka >> > >> >love >> >Jaan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >OM TAT SAT >> >Archive: varahamihira >> >Info: varahamihira/info.html >> > >> > > > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2000 Report Share Posted December 4, 2000 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear prabhus, PAMHO, AGTSP. > Another point is that I have numerous charts in which the lagna lord is > conjoined rahu or ketu and it is not pretty. They either are physically or > mentally disturbed or both with very rare exception. With Dhanus lagna lagna > lord becomes afflicted by Ketu. > If we presume Sagittarus Lagna (I'm not saying it is, I have not decided the question for myself either way yet), then the 9th house Leo has three planets, Jupiter, Sun, and Ketu, all three of which are first class benefics for spirituality. Specifically close conjunction of Jupiter and Ketu would produce a very good Moksha-yoga, which being in 5th from Arudha Lagna and in navamsha in 5th from Lagna, would indicate a Moksha-yoga from past life, which would explain Srila Prabhupada being an eternally liberated soul. So I would think that first of all conjunction of Lagnesh Jupiter and Dharmapati Sun is a very potent yoga for spirituality, and also conjunction of Ghati lagna makes Him a very powerful spiritual leader. All of this have come about in the Moola Dasa of Mercury from 1964, which has Argala on the 9th house, and is a powerful yogada himself, aspecting both Lagna and Hora Lagna by Rasi Dristi, and conjoining Venus which is Kevala yogada. Ketu, being stronger than Mars is the lord of 12th house of renunciation, and has also brought about renunciation of family life (Vanaprastha) in 1950 (Narayan Dasa of Leo). Srila Prabhupada has taken sannyas in September 1959 in Pisces/Pisces Narayan Dasa/Antara, which is 4th house and has the Rasi Dristi of again Mercury and Venus. Of course for the first glance it would be more onbvious to accept that with Capricorn Lagna Saturn Lagnesh in the 10th has brought about sannyas, but if we consider that two natural benefics in the 3rd or 6th from Arudha Lagna create a Viparita pravrajya yoga, then the timing of sannyas for Pisces/Pisces is quite obvious. Also in standard, Moon-based Vimsottari dasa Mercury/Venus dasa was in progress till the end of August 1959 and the Mercury/Sun commenced. Sun being in 9th conjunct Ketu and Lagna lord would again explain the event of Sannyasa Diksha. Anyway, there are many points of consideration, and I first need a good synposis of life events for the rectification. On one hand I agree with Syamasundara prabhu that the real test of Jyotish is prediction, but I can's accept the idea that we can't rectify the chart on the basis of life events. Srila Prabhupada has gone back to Godhead, so does it mean that we should accept the opinion of only that person who succeeded in predicting this event? If suppose no one did Srila Prabhupada's chart at His time, would that mena that we have no right to rectify the birth time? I think that we should take the life events, and try rectifyung between 1st Drekkana of Capricorn and last Drekkana od Sagittarius. It should come out obvious, which time point fits the life events best. In this rectification I think we should not use any dasa systems, as there are so many of them, that it may create confusion. Only planetary positions, three types of Karakas etc should be used in Rasi and Vargas for the explanation of life events, like the number and sex of siblings, children, etc. This would be an interesting experiment and I would like to attampt it in the future, hwne I have enough life data collected. Then if this is fixed we could go through the different Dasas like Drig Dasa for His initiations, Sudasa for marriage and financial success, Narayan dasa for general life events, Paryaaya dasa for health problems, Shoola Dasa for demise etc. This should make sense. Otherwise with Vimsottari so many thigns can be proved. For example His journey aboard the Jaladuta happened in August-Sptember 1965, in Mercury/Jupiter Dasa. Mercury is in the 10th house, which also has Jalapatana Saham (indicating overseas journey), and gives Argala on Jupiter, which is in the 9th house of travels with religious purposes Jupiter also gives a Garaha Drishti on Paradesa Saham (foreign residence), which is in Aquarius. Anyway, just some thoughts, not for raising any scandal again. But if someone could help me out with a nicel composed list of life events (no need of any astrological commentaries), then it would be appreciated. Your servant, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone:+36-309-140-839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Gauranga I agree with you. It ios not good to give a dog a bad name just to hang it. Each of the Navagraha are but representative avatar of Bhagavan and they have specific duties assigned. If we respect them and adore them like Bhagavan, then they become very favorable. As Jyotisha we tend to develop bias after seeing normal charts and find the nodes teaching hard lessons. As regards predictions about a Great Rishi like Srila, this is forbidden in BPHS. I am too late in the day as Srila has gone back to Krishna. So, there is no way that I can say or do anything about the chart. But there are certain things we can still analyse from the chart...one is why is the chart becoming controversial about the lagna nowadays? What dasa will that chart be running now and how is this influensing the Arudha Lagna (as the image of Srila continues in the minds of many in this world even today). Gauranga Pabhu, take up this task and study the chart from the AL for personal image. See what the sisya will do nowadays from the Mantrapada and also what will become of the temples etc. This shall be a good test for your skills. May the blessings of the Great Jagannath Mahaprabhu always be with you, Sanjay Rath - Gauranga Das <gauranga Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) <Shyamasundara.ACBSP; <Jyotish.Services; <Vedic.Astrology Cc: <varahamihira > Monday, December 04, 2000 16:27 Rath Re: [sri Guru] Sri lankan times > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear prabhus, > > PAMHO, AGTSP. > > > Another point is that I have numerous charts in which the lagna lord is > > conjoined rahu or ketu and it is not pretty. They either are physically or > > mentally disturbed or both with very rare exception. With Dhanus lagna lagna > > lord becomes afflicted by Ketu. > > > > If we presume Sagittarus Lagna (I'm not saying it is, I have not decided the question for > myself either way yet), then the 9th house Leo has three planets, Jupiter, Sun, and Ketu, > all three of which are first class benefics for spirituality. Specifically close > conjunction of Jupiter and Ketu would produce a very good Moksha-yoga, which being in 5th > from Arudha Lagna and in navamsha in 5th from Lagna, would indicate a Moksha-yoga from > past life, which would explain Srila Prabhupada being an eternally liberated soul. > > So I would think that first of all conjunction of Lagnesh Jupiter and Dharmapati Sun is a > very potent yoga for spirituality, and also conjunction of Ghati lagna makes Him a very > powerful spiritual leader. All of this have come about in the Moola Dasa of Mercury from > 1964, which has Argala on the 9th house, and is a powerful yogada himself, aspecting both > Lagna and Hora Lagna by Rasi Dristi, and conjoining Venus which is Kevala yogada. Ketu, > being stronger than Mars is the lord of 12th house of renunciation, and has also brought > about renunciation of family life (Vanaprastha) in 1950 (Narayan Dasa of Leo). Srila > Prabhupada has taken sannyas in September 1959 in Pisces/Pisces Narayan Dasa/Antara, which > is 4th house and has the Rasi Dristi of again Mercury and Venus. > > Of course for the first glance it would be more onbvious to accept that with Capricorn > Lagna Saturn Lagnesh in the 10th has brought about sannyas, but if we consider that two > natural benefics in the 3rd or 6th from Arudha Lagna create a Viparita pravrajya yoga, > then the timing of sannyas for Pisces/Pisces is quite obvious. Also in standard, > Moon-based Vimsottari dasa Mercury/Venus dasa was in progress till the end of August 1959 > and the Mercury/Sun commenced. Sun being in 9th conjunct Ketu and Lagna lord would again > explain the event of Sannyasa Diksha. > > Anyway, there are many points of consideration, and I first need a good synposis of life > events for the rectification. > > On one hand I agree with Syamasundara prabhu that the real test of Jyotish is prediction, > but I can's accept the idea that we can't rectify the chart on the basis of life events. > Srila Prabhupada has gone back to Godhead, so does it mean that we should accept the > opinion of only that person who succeeded in predicting this event? If suppose no one did > Srila Prabhupada's chart at His time, would that mena that we have no right to rectify the > birth time? > > I think that we should take the life events, and try rectifyung between 1st Drekkana of > Capricorn and last Drekkana od Sagittarius. It should come out obvious, which time point > fits the life events best. In this rectification I think we should not use any dasa > systems, as there are so many of them, that it may create confusion. Only planetary > positions, three types of Karakas etc should be used in Rasi and Vargas for the > explanation of life events, like the number and sex of siblings, children, etc. This would > be an interesting experiment and I would like to attampt it in the future, hwne I have > enough life data collected. > > Then if this is fixed we could go through the different Dasas like Drig Dasa for His > initiations, Sudasa for marriage and financial success, Narayan dasa for general life > events, Paryaaya dasa for health problems, Shoola Dasa for demise etc. > > This should make sense. Otherwise with Vimsottari so many thigns can be proved. For > example His journey aboard the Jaladuta happened in August-Sptember 1965, in > Mercury/Jupiter Dasa. Mercury is in the 10th house, which also has Jalapatana Saham > (indicating overseas journey), and gives Argala on Jupiter, which is in the 9th house of > travels with religious purposes Jupiter also gives a Garaha Drishti on Paradesa Saham > (foreign residence), which is in Aquarius. > > Anyway, just some thoughts, not for raising any scandal again. But if someone could help > me out with a nicel composed list of life events (no need of any astrological > commentaries), then it would be appreciated. > > Your servant, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > <gauranga > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Gurudeva, Pranaams. > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Gauranga > > I agree with you. It ios not good to give a dog a bad name just to hang it. > Each of the Navagraha are but representative avatar of Bhagavan and they > have specific duties assigned. If we respect them and adore them like > Bhagavan, then they become very favorable. As Jyotisha we tend to develop > bias after seeing normal charts and find the nodes teaching hard lessons. > > As regards predictions about a Great Rishi like Srila, this is forbidden in > BPHS. I am too late in the day as Srila has gone back to Krishna. So, there > is no way that I can say or do anything about the chart. But there are > certain things we can still analyse from the chart...one is why is the chart > becoming controversial about the lagna nowadays? What dasa will that chart > be running now and how is this influensing the Arudha Lagna (as the image of > Srila continues in the minds of many in this world even today). > > Gauranga Pabhu, take up this task and study the chart from the AL for > personal image. See what the sisya will do nowadays from the Mantrapada and > also what will become of the temples etc. > This shall be a good test for your skills. > May the blessings of the Great Jagannath Mahaprabhu always be with you, > Sanjay Rath Thank You for the blessings. I'm definitely planning to do so, and will email the bits of my work to Varahamihira for Your approval. But there is one pont that I have noticed. Whether taking Capricorn og Sagittarius Lagna, AL is still in Aries. Of course the difference in lagna will still make difference in the results read from AL. So I intend to collect life events forst ad rectify the chart with the help of Rasi and Varga positions. Wen all doubts are dispelled (I know that Shyamasundara Prabhu will be the most difficult to convince, He is really freaked out with me) then we can safely go on to analysing the Dasha effects, and of course the Purnayus of all the Dashas have not expired yet, so readings from AL and A5 will defintiely make sense even after His Tirobhava. Your shishya, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone:+36-309-140-839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Syamasundara Prabhu, My views are below: - Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) Sanjay Rath ; varahamihira ; Jyotish Services Friday, December 08, 2000 1:49 AM Re: [sri Guru] Sri lankan times Sanjay said:> Jaya Jagannath> Dear Gauranga>> I agree with you. It ios not good to give a dog a bad name just to hang> it. Each of the Navagraha are but representative avatar of Bhagavan and> they have specific duties assigned. If we respect them and adore them like> Bhagavan, then they become very favorable. As Jyotisha we tend to develop> bias after seeing normal charts and find the nodes teaching hard lessons.>Well one of the "hard lessons" if that is what you want to call it, is thatOjah predicted and it turned out to be a fact, that with Ketu in the 8th SPhad a stricture in his urethra (8th house stuff). He had to have thestricture removed surgically in the UK in 1977. It was blocking the flow ofurine. All 8th house stuff. All while Saturn was passing through the 8thfrom Makara Lagna.First point is the Jyotish theory about the excetory system. This has five Vital Parts in the excetion of the five tatwa. Leaving the vayu Tatwa (Apana Vayu or exhaling of air) and Agni etc aside, we concentrate on the Jala and Prithvi Tatwa. The liquid excetion consists of the Urinary system and the Sweating out from the Skin. This is ruled by the natural sign Virgo and the sixth house which shows the Kidneys and other associated organs. The solid excretory system is from the Anus shown by the 8th house. The natural sign for this is Scorpio and the natural planet signifying this is saturn. Thus your point about the 8th house is not clear. Second is to examine the sixth house in both the charts for the Urinary system affliction. We know that "Any part of the body associated with the 8th Lord (Rogesha) gets very afflicted and diseased for long term or life threatening problems." With Sagittarius Lagna, the 8th Lord is in the 6th house showing that the disease can be associated with the lower stomach and Urinary system. Being the Moon this is more likely to happen. With Capricorn Lagna, the 8th Lord sun is in the 8th house and this is not clearly indicated. I fail to see the association of Ketu with the urinary system. Mercury if associated could have done so. Surgery is seen from the association of Mars with the concerned planet and here Mars is in the 6th house in conjunction with the 8th Lord Moon showing that the urinary affliction may require surgery. Ketu in the 8th can also indicate surgery, but the body part would have been the anus or back indicated by the 8th house for Capricorn Lagna. Thus Sagittarius Lagna explains things better. Transit Saturn in the 8th house from Lagna is not bad for health it is bad for finance and profession due to the aspect of Saturn on the tenth house. In fact saturn in 8th gives long life. Instead, Transit of Saturn over the sign occupied by Lagna Lord (Paka Lagna) is always bad for health. Check this out in as many charts. Finally, the question of making right predictions with wrong horoscopes have been discussed umpteen times in the Goravani list. In fact, this was the main question that brought a friendship with Robert Koch when using different Lagna of cancer and Virgo we both arrived at the same conclusion about President Bill Clinton. So, can we say that the correctness of a prediction is the proof of a correct chart? Definitely not. If it were so, the both the different charts that Robert and I used would have been correct!!! > As regards predictions about a Great Rishi like Srila, this is forbidden> in BPHS.Where does it say this? If this be so why did Garga do the chart of Krsnaand Balarama? More to the point why did Maharaja Yudhisthira request thecourt astrologers to examine the horoscope of Parikshit? Being the hearer ofthe Bhagavatam from Shukadeva Goswami surely Parikshit is as good as if notbetter than any Rishi, still it was expected that his chart was to be cast.I have never seen or heard of such a rule as you are suggesting.Prabhuji, Parasara said that the sages have Divya Ayus and others may have Amita ayus. Assuming this to be correct, what is the implication of this statement? Are we in a position to make predictions about them and if so, how would you do it when the Param ayus of Vimsottari is 120 years. Secondly, when a person has taken Sanyas or has performed the last rites of his body, then we are proibited to make a prediction about death again about him. It is not that this cannot be done, but good Jyotisha should refrain from this as the pesons sanyasa decision should be respected. His death occured the day he took Sanyas and any bodily comfort is forbidden thereafter including marriage etc. If the question is made in private and has a purpose then this should be made privately and kept private for the very reasons that it was asked. Thirdly, the comparision of being good, better or best is not the question but one of being a sage. Further Horoscopes are not made by Hindu's only for predictions. There are so many samskara associated with the Birth chart and auspicious days are based on the chart. Prediction is only secondary (Primary in Westernised parts of India like the cities). Thus there is no prohibition to making the chart and using it for various spiritual and religious purposes including placing it permanently at the feet of Bhagavan for His constant Grace. I feel that Srila qualifies for the definition of a sage, and would not like to make predictions, while many others may do so. It is a question of ethics and preferences based on ones understanding of the Great Parasara's words. That is why i keep telling my students to keep reading the BPHS again and again till they understand all the underlying meaning of those golden words.ShyamaWith regards Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 Namaste Dhira Krsna, > The addition of 6th, 8th and 12th lords longitude (0-360 degrees) is used > for calculation of longevity. The point so obtained will be in a certain > sign and when Saturn transits this point or in trines to it, death may > occur. In combination with the three pairs method it can be a means for > rectifying a chart. I did mine and came to accurate results. > > Your servant, > Dhira Krsna dasa You are alive. What do you mean by " I did mine and came to accurate results " then? Do you mean that this method and the 3-pair method gave the same answer? If you really want to test the accuracy of a method used for longevity, test it on 10-20 dead people. Based on the results, you may want to test it on more people. BTW, when I looked at Srila Prabhupada's photo for the first time, I too felt he looked like a Dhanurlagna person. However, his looks can be explained by the aspect of Sun and Jupiter from Leo on Makara lagna too. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Dear Narasimha, Om Krsna Guru. >You are alive. What do you mean by " I did mine and came to accurate >results " then? Do you mean that this method and the 3-pair method >gave the same answer? Yes, indeed. And checking my astottari dasha I found Sat-Sat-Sun-Jup-Ven on that point, Saturn and Sun are both maraka's, 2nd and 7th lords, Saturn is in Pisces with lagna lord, and Jupiter in Leo with Sun in Taurus conjoined Venus, aspected in graha dristi by Saturn. >If you really want to test the accuracy of a method used for >longevity, test it on 10-20 dead people. Based on the results, you >may want to test it on more people. I tested it on my grandmother, who left her body this year, and found the right time of birth with this method. She was Cancer lagna, like me, and this is quite clear to me now. Also I found time for my wife's father, who left in 1984. I found there is some connection between lagna or arudha lagna from parents with the lagna of their children. Is that right? Therefore it would be interesting to see some charts of Srila Prabhupada's children. >BTW, when I looked at Srila Prabhupada's photo for the first time, I >too felt he looked like a Dhanurlagna person. However, his looks can >be explained by the aspect of Sun and Jupiter from Leo on Makara >lagna too. Indeed, that could be, but when I look at my temple president who is Sagittarius lagna and Srila Prabhupada, I see so much similarity. Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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