Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Ahish, Are you looking at trines to navamsa lagna, or trines to the AK lagna in the navamsa chart.? These "abilities" are inate, coming from many lifetimes.So people have many abilities and are good at anything they try. Souls who have been up and down the universe in numerous lifetimes acquire more knowledge. Keep in mind, that most people unless they are a prodigy might not know or realize their abilites till they are mature. But Dont mix the the 2 lagnas up. also, Check where the AK is, If the AK is in bad placement, it makes realizing ones potential difficult. Sun and Ketu can also indicate, knowledge of the Gita etc. what sign is it in. Makes a difference. YOu cant take just one thing. there are many considerations. Maybe someone COULD be a good artist, but they never get opportunity, maybe it is blocked or cancelled by other influences of planets.Maybe the dasa hasnt happened yet for it to manifest. Best wishes Lakshmi sorry no time to check the chart given ashish <drashishmishra Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 1:34:06 AM[Om Krishna Guru] navamsa abilities dear jyotish gurus...pranam! !we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)...my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things...consider a chat below...Date 3/08/1976time: 02:37 amplace of birth: kanpur:u.p. indiathe person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish...there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at??thanksashish mishra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 hraum krishnaya namah Dear Ashish, Virodha argala can block the abilities. Otherwise Navamsa Lagna is wrong. I have Surya in Navamsa Lagna, i'm good with drums, dancing, guitar, bass and electronic music. I have Ketu in ninth house and I win few competition in math, but I stopped this due to argala of Ju/Ma in fifth, Su, Ju, Ke gave me interest in Jyotish as Ke is in fifth from Atmakaraka. I have Moon in seventh so I have interest in the ayurveda but never want this to be part of my career, Venus in twelfth adds to skills related to criticis and estethics - I was quite good at 3D Studio Max which is perfectly Ve in Sc. Everything works. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Lakshmi Kary pisze:  Hare Rama Krishna Dear Ahish, Are you looking at trines to navamsa lagna, or trines to the AK lagna in the navamsa chart.?  These "abilities" are inate, coming from many lifetimes.So people have many abilities and are good at anything they try. Souls who have been up and down the universe in numerous lifetimes acquire more knowledge. Keep in mind, that most people unless they are a prodigy might not know or realize their abilites till they are mature.  But Dont mix the the 2 lagnas up.  also, Check where the AK is, If the AK is in bad placement, it makes realizing ones potential difficult. Sun and Ketu can also indicate, knowledge of the Gita etc. what sign is it in. Makes a difference.  YOu cant take just one thing. there are many considerations.  Maybe someone COULD be a good artist, but they never get opportunity,  maybe it is blocked or cancelled by other influences of planets.Maybe the dasa hasnt happened yet for it to manifest. Best wishes Lakshmi sorry no time to check the chart given   ashish <drashishmishra > Sat, October 31, 2009 1:34:06 AM [Om Krishna Guru] navamsa abilities  dear jyotish gurus...pranam! ! we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)... my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things... consider a chat below... Date 3/08/1976 time: 02:37 am place of birth: kanpur:u.p. india the person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish... there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at?? thanks ashish mishra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Dear Rafal,Your guess that the Navamsha lagna is incorrect seems to be right. I tried to rectify the time and I don't get any probable time around the specified birth time.Regards,KrishnaRafał Gendarz <starsuponme Sent: Sat, 31 October, 2009 9:42:52 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] navamsa abilities hraum krishnaya namah Dear Ashish, Virodha argala can block the abilities. Otherwise Navamsa Lagna is wrong. I have Surya in Navamsa Lagna, i'm good with drums, dancing, guitar, bass and electronic music. I have Ketu in ninth house and I win few competition in math, but I stopped this due to argala of Ju/Ma in fifth, Su, Ju, Ke gave me interest in Jyotish as Ke is in fifth from Atmakaraka. I have Moon in seventh so I have interest in the ayurveda but never want this to be part of my career, Venus in twelfth adds to skills related to criticis and estethics - I was quite good at 3D Studio Max which is perfectly Ve in Sc. Everything works. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme@ wp.pl Lakshmi Kary pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Ahish, Are you looking at trines to navamsa lagna, or trines to the AK lagna in the navamsa chart.? These "abilities" are inate, coming from many lifetimes.So people have many abilities and are good at anything they try. Souls who have been up and down the universe in numerous lifetimes acquire more knowledge. Keep in mind, that most people unless they are a prodigy might not know or realize their abilites till they are mature. But Dont mix the the 2 lagnas up. also, Check where the AK is, If the AK is in bad placement, it makes realizing ones potential difficult. Sun and Ketu can also indicate, knowledge of the Gita etc. what sign is it in. Makes a difference. YOu cant take just one thing. there are many considerations. Maybe someone COULD be a good artist, but they never get opportunity, maybe it is blocked or cancelled by other influences of planets.Maybe the dasa hasnt happened yet for it to manifest. Best wishes Lakshmi sorry no time to check the chart given ashish <drashishmishra@ > Sat, October 31, 2009 1:34:06 AM [Om Krishna Guru] navamsa abilities dear jyotish gurus...pranam! ! we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)... my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things... consider a chat below... Date 3/08/1976 time: 02:37 am place of birth: kanpur:u.p. india the person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish... there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at?? thanks ashish mishra India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Om NAmah Shivaya, Dear Ashish, Yes, one cannot blindly apply those rules. You have to know verious sambhandas among the planets to exactly know which talent will manifest and which will not. Also, planets in different signs manifest talents differently and in different proportion. A person having Shukra in simha in 5th house can be a much better artist than a person having Shukra in makara in the same house. Also, if a graha is exalted or debilitated it makes a lot of difference. Another thing is to observe it from the Lord of Navamsa Lagna which can make a person like or dislike such talent. Atmakaraka also plays a crucial role to see whether a person will put his /her soul in it or not. Chandra examination in navamsa is crucial to see whether soceity will support such talents or not. For example in my chart, Shukra and Chandra are in 12th house in Leo. Even from the age of 3 I used to paint and in my childhood finished the school of music. However, Rahu is in Navamsa Lagna and Mangal is in 9th house. Rahu blocks Shukra while Mangal blocks chandra, so I never developed such talent of shukra, and gave preference to sports to stop music education. Also Mangal rules puberty in boys, so during the puberty my voice suffered, so singing gift from 12th house had to suffer too. I learnt to play no less then 7 instruments during my youth, and there are barely few astrolgoers who can explain this since my Sun is in 10th house in navamsa chart. And do not try to change my navamsa lagna because it is a useless job:))) My Guru not once rectified it even up to the using prana dasas (6 level of Vimsotari). Unless you know a few tricks from navamsa, you can never tell where this talent from the Sun comes. So there are many factors to calmly and wisely balance, otherwise you will then keep changing navamsa lagna, trying to fit the results or pronounce the wrong results at the right charts. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , " ashish " <drashishmishra wrote: > > dear jyotish gurus...pranam!! > we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)... > my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things... > consider a chat below... > Date 3/08/1976 > time: 02:37 am > place of birth: kanpur:u.p. india > the person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish... > there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at?? > > thanks > > ashish mishra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Ashish and others, Can you please give a link or source to a lecture or article where Sanjayji mentions adding 12th house of Navamsa to trines to see abilities? Appreciated, Michal , " ashish " <drashishmishra wrote: > > dear jyotish gurus...pranam!! > we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)... > my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things... > consider a chat below... > Date 3/08/1976 > time: 02:37 am > place of birth: kanpur:u.p. india > the person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish... > there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at?? > > thanks > > ashish mishra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Zoran and all, Here is a chart of a very famous painter Pablo Picasso: Picasso, Pablo Natal Chart October 25, 1881 Time: 23:15:00 Time Zone: 0:18:00 (West of GMT) Place: 4 W 25' 00 " , 36 N 43' 00 " It is certainly a difficult task to get Venus into Navamsa trines. Any thoughts? Regards, Michal , " ahimsavm " <ahimsans wrote: > > Om NAmah Shivaya, > Dear Ashish, > Yes, one cannot blindly apply those rules. You have to know verious sambhandas among the planets to exactly know which talent will manifest and which will not. Also, planets in different signs manifest talents differently and in different proportion. A person having Shukra in simha in 5th house can be a much better artist than a person having Shukra in makara in the same house. Also, if a graha is exalted or debilitated it makes a lot of difference. > Another thing is to observe it from the Lord of Navamsa Lagna which can make a person like or dislike such talent. Atmakaraka also plays a crucial role to see whether a person will put his /her soul in it or not. Chandra examination in navamsa is crucial to see whether soceity will support such talents or not. > For example in my chart, Shukra and Chandra are in 12th house in Leo. Even from the age of 3 I used to paint and in my childhood finished the school of music. However, Rahu is in Navamsa Lagna and Mangal is in 9th house. Rahu blocks Shukra while Mangal blocks chandra, so I never developed such talent of shukra, and gave preference to sports to stop music education. Also Mangal rules puberty in boys, so during the puberty my voice suffered, so singing gift from 12th house had to suffer too. I learnt to play no less then 7 instruments during my youth, and there are barely few astrolgoers who can explain this since my Sun is in 10th house in navamsa chart. And do not try to change my navamsa lagna because it is a useless job:))) My Guru not once rectified it even up to the using prana dasas (6 level of Vimsotari). Unless you know a few tricks from navamsa, you can never tell where this talent from the Sun comes. > So there are many factors to calmly and wisely balance, otherwise you will then keep changing navamsa lagna, trying to fit the results or pronounce the wrong results at the right charts. > Best wishes > Zoran Radosavljevic > www.siva-edu.info > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > , " ashish " <drashishmishra@> wrote: > > > > dear jyotish gurus...pranam!! > > we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)... > > my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things... > > consider a chat below... > > Date 3/08/1976 > > time: 02:37 am > > place of birth: kanpur:u.p. india > > the person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish... > > there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at?? > > > > thanks > > > > ashish mishra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I would be very interested in reading this article too because when Sanjay ji did a reading for me he said that I would not be successful as a writer because I have mercury in 12th house in Navamsa, although people always say I am very good at writing and encourge me to sell my work but I have been hesitant because of what Sanjay ji said. My birth details are June 26, 1962 at 2:45 am in eldoret, Kenya [35 E 17 and 0 N 31] if somebody wants to explain what appears to be a contradiction.thanks,Nadia--- On Tue, 11/3/09, nearmichal <nearmichal wrote:nearmichal <nearmichal[Om Krishna Guru] Re: navamsa abilitiesTo: Received: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 7:48 PM Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Ashish and others, Can you please give a link or source to a lecture or article where Sanjayji mentions adding 12th house of Navamsa to trines to see abilities? Appreciated, Michal , "ashish" <drashishmishra@ ...> wrote: > > dear jyotish gurus...pranam! ! > we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)... > my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things... > consider a chat below... > Date 3/08/1976 > time: 02:37 am > place of birth: kanpur:u.p. india > the person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish... > there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at?? > > thanks > > ashish mishra > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Om Gurave Namah Dear Mihal, Gurudev mentioned this in Delhi, Nadi Navamsa slides in Sohhamsa. regards. Kaartik Gor , " nearmichal " <nearmichal wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Ashish and others, > > Can you please give a link or source to a lecture or article where Sanjayji mentions adding 12th house of Navamsa to trines to see abilities? > > Appreciated, > Michal > > , " ashish " drashishmishra@ wrote: > > > > dear jyotish gurus...pranam!! > > we are taught that natural abilities are ascertained by planets in trines to navamsha. sanjay ji taught that 12th house is divine gift and we should add that to trines..( see AR Rahman's chart)... > > my question is that i have seen many charts in which the planets in trines doesnt necessarily make the person good at those things... > > consider a chat below... > > Date 3/08/1976 > > time: 02:37 am > > place of birth: kanpur:u.p. india > > the person has sun and ketu in trines...but he has no interest or ability of music, rhythem, maths, or jyotish... > > there are countless other charts like this..is there something else we need to look at?? > > > > thanks > > > > ashish mishra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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