Guest guest Posted July 31, 2000 Report Share Posted July 31, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Narasimha, In my advise, you will notice that I also have not rejected the Sun. I am only giving it a lower position for Phalita Dasa than the Lagna and Moon. You will appreciate that whereas the three are very important and form the tripod, in this World of Maya, the Atma is just passing through another of its endless journeys. It is the Moon (Mana) and Lagna (Body) that are UNIQUE for this particular Journey. The Atma (Sun) is old. The dasa from the Sun would be more relevant if we are considering the Nisheka chart. I will teach all these things to you some day where you can judiciously pick the right dasa for a particular chart. After all there are so many Dasa. We have just started the discussion on Dasa's and what I am teaching right now is the Vimsottari Dasa and here too the Lagna or Moon are used. The Sun is specifically left out. The Moola Dasa is a derivative of the Vimsottari (in a way) and there too the Sun does not enjoy as much importance as the Atma is old. With Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath - Narasimha Rao <pvr <vedic astrology > Cc: <varahamihira > Monday, July 31, 2000 11:51 AM [sri Guru] Re: Starting Moola dasa from Sun (Re: Answer to Gary Gomes on D-60) > Pranaam Gurudeva, > > > Varahamihira also held a similar traditional view. Satyacharya has > deviated > > in a number of points. Some of these are very useful as he has given > the > > practise among astrologers of his days. Kalyan Verma picks up this > thread. > > Actually the stanza quoted by kalyan Verma was with reference to > Ayur > > Dasa and not to Phalita Dasa. there is a clear line between these > types of > > Dasa's. Thus we really cannot say that he advocated for starting > from the > > Sun in Phalita Dasa like the Moola Dasa. He was talking about using > the > > stronger between the Sun, Moon and Lagna to calculate the longevity > using > > different mathematical models. > > What is the basis for your advocacy of Sun for starting Phalita > Dasa? > > > I have already given my basis. Apart from Satyacharya (whom you > seem to reject saying he deviated in a number of points), the > following authors gave the same: > > (1) Varahamihira in " Brihajjaatakam " : > > " udaya ravi sasaanka praani kendraadi sansthaah " . > > It means " planets in quadrants etc from the livelier (stronger) > of lagna, Sun and Moon. The word " ravi " (Sun) is clearly used. > > (2) Prithu Yasas (son of Varahamihira) in " Hora Sara " : > > " hora dinesa sasinaam prabalo bhavedyas- > tatkantakaadishu gataa kathitaa dasesaah " > > It means " whoever is the strongest of lagna, Sun and Moon, the > planets in quadrants etc from him are said to be dasa lords. " > > The word " dinesa " (lord of the daytime - Sun) is clearly used. > > (3) Kalyana Verma in " Saravali " : > > " lagnaarka seeta rasmeenaam > yo balee tasya chaagratah > tatkendraadi sthitaanam cha " > > Again planets in quadrants etc from the strongest of lagna, Sun > and Moon are referred. The word " arka " clearly means Sun. > > Because 4 classics refer to this, following this view is, I > think, justified. Moreover, I could explain known past with > Sun-initiated Moola dasa better than lagna/Moon-initiated > Moola dasa. > > None of the 4 references above says that this is only for ayur > dasas. In fact, Kalyana Verma proceeds to give some results > which make one think that he considers it a phalita dasa. > > While I do know that Sun, Moon and lagna stand for soul, mind > and body, I do not find it binding on the definition of dasas. > Sun stands for many other things, including the vitality of a > nativity or achievements. I cannot presume that I understand > the rationale behind the definition of dasas well enough to > conclude that a phalita dasa cannot be based on Sun. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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