To Prabodh: Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in women?

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Hi,Mr Narasimha where can i purchase the book yoga

vaasishtaam.G chopra

 

--- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

 

> Namaste all,

>

> Let me make a few ramblings and then go back to

> work. I had a very busy week at work and I am still

> working.

>

> This is not an issue of belittling women or sexism

> or feminism. Kundalini activation does not make one

> a great person (in fact, a rising Kundalini makes

> one more and more humble, especially after the first

> few hurdles). If a particular group of people cannot

> have Kundalini activation, it is no big deal and not

> an insult. So that is not where I am coming from.

> But the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is

> simply incorrect. I can accept such

>

> Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego

> consciousness, which makes one think of oneself as a

> separate entity (as opposed being the supreme

> Brahman that everybody in reality is). Kundalini is

> normally in Mooladhara chakra and coils around

> Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds one

> to the idea of self that encompasses one's body,

> name etc.

>

> At this level, there is a difference based on the

> sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego

> consciousness reaches higher planes of

> consciousness, one's sex is immaterial.

>

> In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body that

> is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness is

> bound to body at very low levels of

> self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower

> chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher

> planes of consciousness, one's ego consciousness is

> no longer bound to body. Then how important is one's

> sex?

>

> In answer to Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha

> Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga to

> activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha

> yoga is but one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc -

> there are so many paths.

>

> If you want to see the characteristics of one's

> consciousness, when it is in the 14 different planes

> of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras and 14

> lokas), read " Yoga Vaasishtham " (a dialog between

> Rama and Vasishtha that was described by Valmiki).

> It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a

> masterpiece of Advaita philosophy. In fact, I

> haven't read a better book - or a book that

> influenced me more profoundly - in my life so far.

> Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga or Jnaana

> yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever, your

> Kundalini will rise only when your

> self-consciousness reaches higher planes of

> consciousness (which can happen in men and women).

> The way to make that happen is different in

> different paths.

>

> In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of

> consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave an

> example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot come

> without self-consciousness reaching the highest

> plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that one

> is simply supreme Brahman and nothing else), i.e.

> Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can reach

> Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman?

>

> BTW, one more philosophical rambling:

>

> As we are born as human beings and blessed with some

> intellect, we should try to understand " self "

> better, instead of tying ourselves down with

> nonsensical concepts of " self " that only take us

> further and further away from who we truly are.

> One's concept of " self " (ego) is what one truly

> believes one's " self " to be. By practice and

> conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one

> succeeds or not, it is worthwhile for every human

> being to ask oneself " who am I? What exactly is my

> " self " ? " This may sound like a stupid question, but

> do ask yourself this question everyday and, believe

> me, it will slowly start making a difference.

>

> OK, good night now!

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

-------------------------------

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> http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows):

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website:

> http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

-------------------------------

>

> > Dear Jyothi and others,

> > In reply to the question " Why awakening is

> impossible in women? " , Prabodh wrote the following:

> > " When I said that women will not have kundalini

> activation I did not mean to belittle them. I

> respect all women. All the people whom I met who had

> Kundalini activation have told me that women are not

> allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I

> can guess. "

> > Does Prabodh think that people are that much

> gullible to buy his story? It is his own idea. He

> should have wrote " I think " or " I assume " , but

> instead he wrote: " Activation of Chakras in female

> body is possible but no Kundalini activation "

> > It appeared that he had total confidence even

> though he knows nothing about the subject. What I

> would like to say here is that before making such a

> radical remark, think millions of times. What does

> he think happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi,

> Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they all

> men and not women? Normally I am a calm person, but

> Prabodh has definately touched my nerve with this.

> His statement can mislead and disappoint women. My

> urge to all women is to continue on your earnest

> search for yourself. Life is too short. And not only

> that, but human life is rare. Make the best out of

> this life time. You are not limited to anything.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Devika.

> >

> >

> > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > It is understood that you didnt mean to

> belittle women. But

> > I was thinking whether it was just your personal

> opinion (which I

> > knew it is) or you had any scientific reason.I

> have read the

> > experiences narrated by several women about their

> KA in the net. If

> > my memory is correct, even in this group much

> earlier some body had

> > written about that. (That was how I started

> reading of it with more

> > curiosity).

> >

> > Since you said it so authentically, I thought

> you might have some

> > reliable reason. If it is the problem of only

> " allowance' and

> > not 'impossible' , then ok. Because personally I

> feel women are more

> > capable of awakening Kundalini more quickly and

> less dangerously than

> > men because of their inherent fine nature and

> strong mental

> > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz).

> >

> > Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral

> methods to awaken

> > Kundalini? Just because you havent met any Hatha

> yogi with female

> > disciple does that mean women are not capable or

> permitted for KA?

> > Those Hatha Yogis may be people scared of losing

> their mental

> > control!! I dont find any other reason. If you

> know please share. If

> > my understanding is correct Kundalini can awaken

> due to various

> > reasons, without doing any yoga. Just intense

> faith in ones Goddess

> > and above all the intense and genuine QUEST to

> know the truth will, I

> > believe, lead one to such experiences. In this

> case it can be a

> > spontaneous process. I hope I am right.

> >

> > " If anybody has a case of woman kundalini

> activation it would be

> > interesting to read the expirences. "

> >

> > Regarding this, I feel the experiences of KA

> with each person is

> > unique. It doesnt have anything to do with gender.

> Like, all men will

> > feel like this and all women will like that. Am I

> correct?

> > If the net resources can be believed there are

> lot of articles by

> > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had

> read about it but

> > dont remember the site names. If I come across

> again I will let you

> > know.

> >

> > Thanks for your clarification.

> >

>

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Thank you very much Michael.Gary chopra

 

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

 

> ::Hare Rama Krsna::

>

> Dear Gary,

>

> If you do a google search of ::Vasishta:: you will

> find many sources and information. There is even

> www.yogavasishta.com. Enjoy!

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> ::Om Namo Narayanaya::

>

> Manjit Chopra <manjitc wrote:

> Hi,Mr Narasimha where can i purchase the book yoga

> vaasishtaam.G chopra

>

> --- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

> wrote:

>

> > Namaste all,

> >

> > Let me make a few ramblings and then go back to

> > work. I had a very busy week at work and I am

> still

> > working.

> >

> > This is not an issue of belittling women or

> sexism

> > or feminism. Kundalini activation does not make

> one

> > a great person (in fact, a rising Kundalini

> makes

> > one more and more humble, especially after the

> first

> > few hurdles). If a particular group of people

> cannot

> > have Kundalini activation, it is no big deal and

> not

> > an insult. So that is not where I am coming

> from.

> > But the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is

> > simply incorrect. I can accept such

> >

> > Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego

> > consciousness, which makes one think of oneself

> as a

> > separate entity (as opposed being the supreme

> > Brahman that everybody in reality is). Kundalini

> is

> > normally in Mooladhara chakra and coils around

> > Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds

> one

> > to the idea of self that encompasses one's body,

> > name etc.

> >

> > At this level, there is a difference based on

> the

> > sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego

> > consciousness reaches higher planes of

> > consciousness, one's sex is immaterial.

> >

> > In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body

> that

> > is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness

> is

> > bound to body at very low levels of

> > self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower

> > chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher

> > planes of consciousness, one's ego consciousness

> is

> > no longer bound to body. Then how important is

> one's

> > sex?

> >

> > In answer to Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha

> > Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga to

> > activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha

> > yoga is but one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga

> etc -

> > there are so many paths.

> >

> > If you want to see the characteristics of one's

> > consciousness, when it is in the 14 different

> planes

> > of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras

> and 14

> > lokas), read " Yoga Vaasishtham " (a dialog

> between

> > Rama and Vasishtha that was described by

> Valmiki).

> > It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a

> > masterpiece of Advaita philosophy. In fact, I

> > haven't read a better book - or a book that

> > influenced me more profoundly - in my life so

> far.

> > Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga or

> Jnaana

> > yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever,

> your

> > Kundalini will rise only when your

> > self-consciousness reaches higher planes of

> > consciousness (which can happen in men and

> women).

> > The way to make that happen is different in

> > different paths.

> >

> > In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of

> > consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave

> an

> > example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot

> come

> > without self-consciousness reaching the highest

> > plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that

> one

> > is simply supreme Brahman and nothing else),

> i.e.

> > Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can

> reach

> > Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman?

> >

> > BTW, one more philosophical rambling:

> >

> > As we are born as human beings and blessed with

> some

> > intellect, we should try to understand " self "

> > better, instead of tying ourselves down with

> > nonsensical concepts of " self " that only take us

> > further and further away from who we truly are.

> > One's concept of " self " (ego) is what one truly

> > believes one's " self " to be. By practice and

> > conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one

> > succeeds or not, it is worthwhile for every

> human

> > being to ask oneself " who am I? What exactly is

> my

> > " self " ? " This may sound like a stupid question,

> but

> > do ask yourself this question everyday and,

> believe

> > me, it will slowly start making a difference.

> >

> > OK, good night now!

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

>

>

-------------------------------

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

> > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows):

> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website:

> > http://www.SriJagannath.org

> >

>

>

-------------------------------

> >

> > > Dear Jyothi and others,

> > > In reply to the question " Why awakening

> is

> > impossible in women? " , Prabodh wrote the

> following:

> > > " When I said that women will not have

> kundalini

> > activation I did not mean to belittle them. I

> > respect all women. All the people whom I met who

> had

> > Kundalini activation have told me that women are

> not

> > allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but

> I

> > can guess. "

> > > Does Prabodh think that people are that much

> > gullible to buy his story? It is his own idea.

> He

> > should have wrote " I think " or " I assume " , but

> > instead he wrote: " Activation of Chakras in

> female

> > body is possible but no Kundalini activation "

> > > It appeared that he had total confidence

> even

> > though he knows nothing about the subject. What

> I

> > would like to say here is that before making

> such a

> > radical remark, think millions of times. What

> does

> > he think happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi,

> > Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they

> all

> > men and not women? Normally I am a calm person,

> but

> > Prabodh has definately touched my nerve with

> this.

> > His statement can mislead and disappoint women.

> My

> > urge to all women is to continue on your earnest

> > search for yourself. Life is too short. And not

> only

>

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Thank you all Bharat,Michael and Narasimha jee,what is

the correlation betwwen sri vidya,Drvi

khadgamala,Constellations and Kundalini.This is one

question which Hounds me.Gary chopra.

 

--- Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology

wrote:

 

> Namaskaar Sri Chopra

>

> Quietitude of the Mind (talks on selected verses of

> the Yoga Vashishtha) by

> Swami Bhoomananda Tirtha is a nice book. You can

> order it from

> http://www.brahmavidya.org

>

> There are very few nice commentaries on this text.

> Yoga Vashishtha is Brahm

> Rsi Vashishth explaining Brahma Vidya to Sri Rama.

> Sri Rama had fallen into

> depression by questions of sorrow, death, etc, just

> as we have read about

> Sri Buddha. Sri Rama, instead of running away, asked

> his Guru to help remove

> his ignorance. After explaining his inner state

> (very profound analysis), he

> says that he will not do any of his princely duties

> and nor will eat and

> drink, unless his questions are resolved. Then,

> begins the teaching.

>

> Narasimha is one of the fortunate ones to have laid

> his hands on this text.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On 12/10/05, Manjit Chopra <manjitc

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,Mr Narasimha where can i purchase the book

> yoga

> > vaasishtaam.G chopra

> >

> > --- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

> wrote:

> >

> > > Namaste all,

> > >

> > > Let me make a few ramblings and then go back to

> > > work. I had a very busy week at work and I am

> still

> > > working.

> > >

> > > This is not an issue of belittling women or

> sexism

> > > or feminism. Kundalini activation does not make

> one

> > > a great person (in fact, a rising Kundalini

> makes

> > > one more and more humble, especially after the

> first

> > > few hurdles). If a particular group of people

> cannot

> > > have Kundalini activation, it is no big deal and

> not

> > > an insult. So that is not where I am coming

> from.

> > > But the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is

> > > simply incorrect. I can accept such

> > >

> > > Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego

> > > consciousness, which makes one think of oneself

> as a

> > > separate entity (as opposed being the supreme

> > > Brahman that everybody in reality is). Kundalini

> is

> > > normally in Mooladhara chakra and coils around

> > > Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds

> one

> > > to the idea of self that encompasses one's body,

> > > name etc.

> > >

> > > At this level, there is a difference based on

> the

> > > sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego

> > > consciousness reaches higher planes of

> > > consciousness, one's sex is immaterial.

> > >

> > > In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body

> that

> > > is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness

> is

> > > bound to body at very low levels of

> > > self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower

> > > chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher

> > > planes of consciousness, one's ego consciousness

> is

> > > no longer bound to body. Then how important is

> one's

> > > sex?

> > >

> > > In answer to Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha

> > > Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga to

> > > activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha

> > > yoga is but one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga

> etc -

> > > there are so many paths.

> > >

> > > If you want to see the characteristics of one's

> > > consciousness, when it is in the 14 different

> planes

> > > of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras

> and 14

> > > lokas), read " Yoga Vaasishtham " (a dialog

> between

> > > Rama and Vasishtha that was described by

> Valmiki).

> > > It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a

> > > masterpiece of Advaita philosophy. In fact, I

> > > haven't read a better book - or a book that

> > > influenced me more profoundly - in my life so

> far.

> > > Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga or

> Jnaana

> > > yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever,

> your

> > > Kundalini will rise only when your

> > > self-consciousness reaches higher planes of

> > > consciousness (which can happen in men and

> women).

> > > The way to make that happen is different in

> > > different paths.

> > >

> > > In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of

> > > consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave

> an

> > > example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot

> come

> > > without self-consciousness reaching the highest

> > > plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that

> one

> > > is simply supreme Brahman and nothing else),

> i.e.

> > > Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can

> reach

> > > Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman?

> > >

> > > BTW, one more philosophical rambling:

> > >

> > > As we are born as human beings and blessed with

> some

> > > intellect, we should try to understand " self "

> > > better, instead of tying ourselves down with

> > > nonsensical concepts of " self " that only take us

> > > further and further away from who we truly are.

> > > One's concept of " self " (ego) is what one truly

> > > believes one's " self " to be. By practice and

> > > conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one

> > > succeeds or not, it is worthwhile for every

> human

> > > being to ask oneself " who am I? What exactly is

> my

> > > " self " ? " This may sound like a stupid question,

> but

> > > do ask yourself this question everyday and,

> believe

> > > me, it will slowly start making a difference.

> > >

> > > OK, good night now!

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

> > >

> >

>

-------------------------------

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

> > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows):

> > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website:

> > > http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > >

> >

>

-------------------------------

> > >

> > > > Dear Jyothi and others,

> > > > In reply to the question " Why awakening

> is

> > > impossible in women? " , Prabodh wrote the

> following:

> > > > " When I said that women will not have

> kundalini

> > > activation I did not mean to belittle them. I

> > > respect all women. All the people whom I met who

> had

> > > Kundalini activation have told me that women are

> not

> > > allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but

> I

> > > can guess. "

> > > > Does Prabodh think that people are that much

> > > gullible to buy his story? It is his own idea.

> He

> > > should have wrote " I think " or " I assume " , but

> > > instead he wrote: " Activation of Chakras in

> female

>

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Namaste Narasimha and all, Prabodh's statement was not taken as belittling women or sexism or feminism. It was not even taken as an insult, but it was totally wrong. Not only that, but the explanation he later gave for the statement was wrong as well. He seemed to be very confident when he does not know anything about the subject. My question is why misguide and disappoint someone? If one does not know the subject, then they should state that it is their assumption. Jyotish on the other hand, is full of assumptions and we all know that and we all accept that. Thanks, Devika"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: Namaste all, Let me make a few ramblings and then go back to work. I had a very busy week at work and I am still working. This is not an issue of belittling women or sexism or feminism. Kundalini activation does not make one a great person (in fact, a rising Kundalini makes one more and more humble, especially after the first few hurdles). If a particular group of people cannot have Kundalini activation, it is no big deal and not an insult. So that is not where I am coming from. But the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is simply incorrect. I can accept such Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego consciousness, which makes one think of oneself as a separate entity (as opposed being the supreme Brahman that everybody in

reality is). Kundalini is normally in Mooladhara chakra and coils around Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds one to the idea of self that encompasses one's body, name etc. At this level, there is a difference based on the sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's sex is immaterial. In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body that is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness is bound to body at very low levels of self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's ego consciousness is no longer bound to body. Then how important is one's sex? In answer to

Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga to activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha yoga is but one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc - there are so many paths. If you want to see the characteristics of one's consciousness, when it is in the 14 different planes of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras and 14 lokas), read "Yoga Vaasishtham" (a dialog between Rama and Vasishtha that was described by Valmiki). It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a masterpiece of Advaita philosophy. In fact, I haven't read a better book - or a book that influenced me more profoundly - in my life so far. Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga or Jnaana yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever, your Kundalini will rise only when your self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness (which can happen in men and women). The way to

make that happen is different in different paths. In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave an example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot come without self-consciousness reaching the highest plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that one is simply supreme Brahman and nothing else), i.e. Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can reach Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman? BTW, one more philosophical rambling: As we are born as human beings and blessed with some intellect, we should try to understand "self" better, instead of tying ourselves down with nonsensical concepts of "self" that only take us further and further away from who we

truly are. One's concept of "self" (ego) is what one truly believes one's "self" to be. By practice and conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one succeeds or not, it is worthwhile for every human being to ask oneself "who am I? What exactly is my "self"?" This may sound like a stupid question, but do ask yourself this question everyday and, believe me, it will slowly start making a difference. OK, good night now! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > Dear Jyothi and others,> In reply to the question "Why awakening is impossible in women?", Prabodh wrote the following:> "When I said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess." > Does

Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy his story? It is his own idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume", but instead he wrote: "Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no Kundalini activation"> It appeared that he had total confidence even though he knows nothing about the subject. What I would like to say here is that before making such a radical remark, think millions of times. What does he think happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they all men and not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh has definately touched my nerve with this. His statement can mislead and disappoint women. My urge to all women is to continue on your earnest search for yourself. Life is too short. And not only that, but human life is rare. Make the best out of this life time. You are not limited to anything. > > Regards,>

Devika.> > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Dear Sir,> > It is understood that you didnt mean to belittle women. But > I was thinking whether it was just your personal opinion (which I > knew it is) or you had any scientific reason.I have read the > experiences narrated by several women about their KA in the net. If > my memory is correct, even in this group much earlier some body had > written about that. (That was how I started reading of it with more > curiosity).> > Since you said it so authentically, I thought you might have some > reliable reason. If it is the problem of only "allowance' and > not 'impossible' , then ok. Because personally I feel women are more > capable of awakening Kundalini

more quickly and less dangerously than > men because of their inherent fine nature and strong mental > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz).> > Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to awaken > Kundalini? Just because you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > disciple does that mean women are not capable or permitted for KA? > Those Hatha Yogis may be people scared of losing their mental > control!! I dont find any other reason. If you know please share. If > my understanding is correct Kundalini can awaken due to various > reasons, without doing any yoga. Just intense faith in ones Goddess > and above all the intense and genuine QUEST to know the truth will, I > believe, lead one to such experiences. In this case it can be a > spontaneous process. I hope I am right.> > "If anybody has a case of woman

kundalini activation it would be > interesting to read the expirences."> > Regarding this, I feel the experiences of KA with each person is > unique. It doesnt have anything to do with gender. Like, all men will > feel like this and all women will like that. Am I correct?> If the net resources can be believed there are lot of articles by > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had read about it but > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I will let you > know. > > Thanks for your clarification.> > REgards,> Jyothi.> > vedic astrology , "Prabodh Vekhande" > <amolmandar> wrote:> >> > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste> > > > When I

said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not > > mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I > > met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not > > allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess. If > > anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > > interesting to read the expirences. Another point, I have not > > read /met any Hatyogi with a female diciple. If anybody knows such > > Hatyogi guru please let me know. I will be very much thankful.> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > vedic astrology , "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > >> > > Dear sir,> > > > > > Why do you say Kundalini activation is impossible in > > > women? Can you please explain the reason for that?> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > > > > > vedic astrology , "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vishnu and TV Rao Namste> > > > > > > > Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no > > Kundalini > > > > activation.> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and

Sapce.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Vishnu Jandhyala > > > > <jvishnu@g...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Rao garu,> > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini sakti is present in women too.> > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > Vishnu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99 <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> > >

> > >> > > > > > vedic astrology , "r_tv_99" > > > > <tvrao_agd@s...>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > respected gurus and members,> > > > > >> > > > > > in this thread only male anatomy is discussed with respect > to> > > > > > kundalini. as a laymen, please enlighten me whether the > > > kundalini> > > > > > shakti is present in females or not? or it is only present > > in > > > > males?> > > > > >> > > > > > tvr

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Just to make it clear, I did not imply that you took Prabodh's statement as belittling women. In fact, I was supporting your view. I too was saying that Prabodh was simply incorrect.

 

 

 

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> Namaste Narasimha and all,> Prabodh's statement was not taken as belittling women or sexism or feminism. It was not even taken as an insult, but it was totally wrong. Not only that, but the explanation he later gave for the statement was wrong as well. He seemed to be very confident when he does not know anything about the subject. My question is why misguide and disappoint someone? If one does not know the subject, then they should state that it is their assumption. Jyotish on the other hand, is full of assumptions and we all know that and we all accept that. > > Thanks,> Devika> > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:> Namaste all,> > Let me make a few ramblings and then go back to work. I had a very busy week at work and I am still working.> > This is not an issue of belittling women or sexism or feminism. Kundalini activation does not make one a great person (in fact, a rising Kundalini makes one more and more humble, especially after the first few hurdles). If a particular group of people cannot have Kundalini activation, it is no big deal and not an insult. So that is not where I am coming from. But the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is simply incorrect. I can accept such> > Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego consciousness, which makes one think of oneself as a separate entity (as opposed being the supreme Brahman that everybody in reality is). Kundalini is normally in Mooladhara chakra and coils around Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds one to the idea of self that encompasses one's body, name etc.> > At this level, there is a difference based on the sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's sex is immaterial.> > In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body that is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness is bound to body at very low levels of self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's ego consciousness is no longer bound to body. Then how important is one's sex?> > In answer to Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga to activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha yoga is but one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc - there are so many paths.> > If you want to see the characteristics of one's consciousness, when it is in the 14 different planes of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras and 14 lokas), read "Yoga Vaasishtham" (a dialog between Rama and Vasishtha that was described by Valmiki). It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a masterpiece of Advaita philosophy. In fact, I haven't read a better book - or a book that influenced me more profoundly - in my life so far. Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga or Jnaana yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever, your Kundalini will rise only when your self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness (which can happen in men and women). The way to make that happen is different in different paths.> > In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave an example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot come without self-consciousness reaching the highest plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that one is simply supreme Brahman and nothing else), i.e. Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can reach Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman?> > BTW, one more philosophical rambling:> > As we are born as human beings and blessed with some intellect, we should try to understand "self" better, instead of tying ourselves down with nonsensical concepts of "self" that only take us further and further away from who we truly are. One's concept of "self" (ego) is what one truly believes one's "self" to be. By practice and conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one succeeds or not, it is worthwhile for every human being to ask oneself "who am I? What exactly is my "self"?" This may sound like a stupid question, but do ask yourself this question everyday and, believe me, it will slowly start making a difference.> > OK, good night now!> > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha> -------------------------------> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> -------------------------------> > > > > > Dear Jyothi and others,> > In reply to the question "Why awakening is impossible in women?", Prabodh wrote the following:> > "When I said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess." > > Does Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy his story? It is his own idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume", but instead he wrote: "Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no Kundalini activation"> > It appeared that he had total confidence even though he knows nothing about the subject. What I would like to say here is that before making such a radical remark, think millions of times. What does he think happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they all men and not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh has definately touched my nerve with this. His statement can mislead and disappoint women. My urge to all women is to continue on your earnest search for yourself. Life is too short. And not only that, but human life is rare. Make the best out of this life time. You are not limited to anything. > > > > Regards,> > Devika.> > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > > > It is understood that you didnt mean to belittle women. But > > I was thinking whether it was just your personal opinion (which I > > knew it is) or you had any scientific reason.I have read the > > experiences narrated by several women about their KA in the net. If > > my memory is correct, even in this group much earlier some body had > > written about that. (That was how I started reading of it with more > > curiosity).> > > > Since you said it so authentically, I thought you might have some > > reliable reason. If it is the problem of only "allowance' and > > not 'impossible' , then ok. Because personally I feel women are more > > capable of awakening Kundalini more quickly and less dangerously than > > men because of their inherent fine nature and strong mental > > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz).> > > > Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to awaken > > Kundalini? Just because you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > > disciple does that mean women are not capable or permitted for KA? > > Those Hatha Yogis may be people scared of losing their mental > > control!! I dont find any other reason. If you know please share. If > > my understanding is correct Kundalini can awaken due to various > > reasons, without doing any yoga. Just intense faith in ones Goddess > > and above all the intense and genuine QUEST to know the truth will, I > > believe, lead one to such experiences. In this case it can be a > > spontaneous process. I hope I am right.> > > > "If anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > > interesting to read the expirences."> > > > Regarding this, I feel the experiences of KA with each person is > > unique. It doesnt have anything to do with gender. Like, all men will > > feel like this and all women will like that. Am I correct?> > If the net resources can be believed there are lot of articles by > > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had read about it but > > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I will let you > > know. > > > > Thanks for your clarification.> > > > REgards,> > Jyothi.> > > > vedic astrology , "Prabodh Vekhande" > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste> > > > > > When I said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not > > > mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I > > > met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not > > > allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess. If > > > anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > > > interesting to read the expirences. Another point, I have not > > > read /met any Hatyogi with a female diciple. If anybody knows such > > > Hatyogi guru please let me know. I will be very much thankful.> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear sir,> > > > > > > > Why do you say Kundalini activation is impossible in > > > > women? Can you please explain the reason for that?> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Jyothi> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vishnu and TV Rao Namste> > > > > > > > > > Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no > > > Kundalini > > > > > activation.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Vishnu Jandhyala > > > > > <jvishnu@g...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Rao garu,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini sakti is present in women too.> > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > Vishnu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99 <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > vedic astrology , "r_tv_99" > > > > > <tvrao_agd@s...>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > respected gurus and members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > in this thread only male anatomy is discussed with respect > > to> > > > > > > kundalini. as a laymen, please enlighten me whether the > > > > kundalini> > > > > > > shakti is present in females or not? or it is only present > > > in > > > > > males?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > tvr

 

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One note to Prabodh is that I do not have anything against you but the statement had to be corrected. Each one of us has made mistakes, you are not the only one. Let's put this behind us. You have good astrological knowledge, please keep on sharing and writing on the list. Thanks, Devika."Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: Namaste Madam, Just to make it clear, I did not imply that you took Prabodh's statement as belittling women. In fact, I was supporting your view. I too was saying that Prabodh was simply incorrect. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > Namaste Narasimha and all,> Prabodh's statement was

not taken as belittling women or sexism or feminism. It was not even taken as an insult, but it was totally wrong. Not only that, but the explanation he later gave for the statement was wrong as well. He seemed to be very confident when he does not know anything about the subject. My question is why misguide and disappoint someone? If one does not know the subject, then they should state that it is their assumption. Jyotish on the other hand, is full of assumptions and we all know that and we all accept that. > > Thanks,> Devika> > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:> Namaste all,> > Let me make a few ramblings and then go back to work. I had a very busy week at work and I am still working.> > This is not an issue of

belittling women or sexism or feminism. Kundalini activation does not make one a great person (in fact, a rising Kundalini makes one more and more humble, especially after the first few hurdles). If a particular group of people cannot have Kundalini activation, it is no big deal and not an insult. So that is not where I am coming from. But the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is simply incorrect. I can accept such> > Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego consciousness, which makes one think of oneself as a separate entity (as opposed being the supreme Brahman that everybody in reality is). Kundalini is normally in Mooladhara chakra and coils around Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds one to the idea of self that encompasses one's body, name etc.> > At this level, there is a difference based on the sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego consciousness reaches higher

planes of consciousness, one's sex is immaterial.> > In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body that is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness is bound to body at very low levels of self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's ego consciousness is no longer bound to body. Then how important is one's sex?> > In answer to Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga to activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha yoga is but one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc - there are so many paths.> > If you want to see the characteristics of one's consciousness, when it is in the 14 different planes of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras and 14 lokas), read "Yoga Vaasishtham" (a dialog between Rama and Vasishtha that was described

by Valmiki). It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a masterpiece of Advaita philosophy. In fact, I haven't read a better book - or a book that influenced me more profoundly - in my life so far. Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga or Jnaana yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever, your Kundalini will rise only when your self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness (which can happen in men and women). The way to make that happen is different in different paths.> > In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave an example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot come without self-consciousness reaching the highest plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that one is simply supreme Brahman and nothing else), i.e. Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can reach Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman?> > BTW, one

more philosophical rambling:> > As we are born as human beings and blessed with some intellect, we should try to understand "self" better, instead of tying ourselves down with nonsensical concepts of "self" that only take us further and further away from who we truly are. One's concept of "self" (ego) is what one truly believes one's "self" to be. By practice and conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one succeeds or not, it is worthwhile for every human being to ask oneself "who am I? What exactly is my "self"?" This may sound like a stupid question, but do ask yourself this question everyday and, believe me, it will slowly start making a difference.> > OK, good night now!> > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha>

-------------------------------> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> -------------------------------> > > > > > Dear Jyothi and others,> > In reply to the question "Why awakening is impossible in women?", Prabodh wrote the following:> > "When I said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are

not allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess." > > Does Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy his story? It is his own idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume", but instead he wrote: "Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no Kundalini activation"> > It appeared that he had total confidence even though he knows nothing about the subject. What I would like to say here is that before making such a radical remark, think millions of times. What does he think happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they all men and not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh has definately touched my nerve with this. His statement can mislead and disappoint women. My urge to all women is to continue on your earnest search for yourself. Life is too short. And not only that, but human life is rare. Make the best out of this life time. You are not limited

to anything. > > > > Regards,> > Devika.> > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > > > It is understood that you didnt mean to belittle women. But > > I was thinking whether it was just your personal opinion (which I > > knew it is) or you had any scientific reason.I have read the > > experiences narrated by several women about their KA in the net. If > > my memory is correct, even in this group much earlier some body had > > written about that. (That was how I started reading of it with more > > curiosity).> > > > Since you said it so authentically, I thought you might have some > >

reliable reason. If it is the problem of only "allowance' and > > not 'impossible' , then ok. Because personally I feel women are more > > capable of awakening Kundalini more quickly and less dangerously than > > men because of their inherent fine nature and strong mental > > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz).> > > > Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to awaken > > Kundalini? Just because you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > > disciple does that mean women are not capable or permitted for KA? > > Those Hatha Yogis may be people scared of losing their mental > > control!! I dont find any other reason. If you know please share. If > > my understanding is correct Kundalini can awaken due to various > > reasons, without doing any yoga. Just intense faith in ones Goddess > > and above all the intense

and genuine QUEST to know the truth will, I > > believe, lead one to such experiences. In this case it can be a > > spontaneous process. I hope I am right.> > > > "If anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > > interesting to read the expirences."> > > > Regarding this, I feel the experiences of KA with each person is > > unique. It doesnt have anything to do with gender. Like, all men will > > feel like this and all women will like that. Am I correct?> > If the net resources can be believed there are lot of articles by > > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had read about it but > > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I will let you > > know. > > > > Thanks for your clarification.> > >

> REgards,> > Jyothi.> > > > vedic astrology , "Prabodh Vekhande" > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste> > > > > > When I said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not > > > mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I > > > met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not > > > allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess. If > > > anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > > > interesting to read the expirences. Another point, I have not > > > read /met any Hatyogi with a female diciple. If anybody knows such > > > Hatyogi guru please let me know. I will be very much

thankful.> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear sir,> > > > > > > > Why do you say Kundalini activation is impossible in > > > > women? Can you please explain the reason for that?> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Jyothi> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vishnu and TV Rao Namste> > > > > > > > > > Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no > > > Kundalini > > > > > activation.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Vishnu Jandhyala > > > > > <jvishnu@g...>

wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Rao garu,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini sakti is present in women too.> > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > Vishnu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99 <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > vedic astrology , "r_tv_99" > > > > > <tvrao_agd@s...>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > respected gurus and members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > in this thread only male anatomy is discussed with respect > > to> > > > > > > kundalini. as a laymen, please enlighten me whether the > > > > kundalini> > > > > > > shakti is present in females or not? or it is only present > > > in > > > > > males?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > tvr

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Dear All Namaste

 

There were angry and some very angry reactions on this thread. It

seems that my understanding of Kundalini activation is different

than most of the people in this thread. My knowledge is stright from

the persons who have experienced KA and have told me many hidden

things in most logical manner.(Many have doubt about this but they

are not at fault. I am very poor at expressing what I know!)

 

There seems to be some confusion about the keywords such as

Moksha,Bhaktimarga and Kundalini. Basic aim of Sadhana is to obtain

gyana in Adhyatma. You can obtain knowledge by many means like by

Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti yoga. Kundalini yoga is subclass of Raja yoga.

Now to say that those who follow Gyana or Bhakti marga will also

expirence KA is very bold statement. Every marga will give you

ultimate knowledge but every marga will not be through Kundalini.

The person who has fully activated Kundalini and person who has

reached ultimate level in Bhakti marga will have same knowledge to

share. Both will be realized souls and will have same knowledge. But

there means will be different. Bhakti marga is more popular as it

is considered to be simple and safe. Most of the Santa are from

Bhakti marga. So many feel that Bhakti marga Santa must have obtain

knowledge through Kundalini activation.

 

Since Kundalini activation experience is very difficult to express,

Rishis have written Puranas and MahaKavyas(Ramayan & Mahabharat) to

explain those hidden secrets with the help of stories and

allegories. Once such story is of Kacha-Devayani-Shukracharya. It

ends with the statement that Mantra should not be given to woman.(

Read Gurucharitra). Shukrachary was forced to teach Sanjeevini

(Kundalini is temporary death and Sanjeevini is life after such

death) to his daughter. Shukracharya knew that this vidya should not

be given to woman but succumbed to the pressures put by his

daughter. Shukracharya dies in the process and Devayani learns.

Kacha as well learns as he was in the stomach of Shukracharya. Kacha

comes out in Bramha where as Devayani makes a strong request for

marriage which Kacha turns down. Devayani hence curses Kacha that he

will not be able to use this vidya(like BhargavaRama cursed Karna

in Mahabharata). In turn Kacha says that Devayani will not marry

Brahman(Brahma Janati eti Brahmana)i.e will not be able to control

Brahma. Finally Brihaspati curses to all Brahman that if anybody

teaches Mantra(Kundalini Vidya) to woman he will go Rairaiva Naraka.

 

Those who believe in this story in this way strictly follow it.

Others who follow literally suggest Vratas instead of Mantras to

women.

 

I was taught to read Ramayana and Mahabharata is this way. Just try

to understand why Rama asked Laxyamana to cut Stana-Nak-Kana of

Shoorpankha? or even, why Shiva and Brahma are enemies of each

other? In YogaVashista, why Indra and Ahilya story comes again and

again.(I dont exactly remember in which adhya as I read YogaVashista

seven to eight years back.)

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankara

Har Har Shankar

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II Om Datta Guru II Dear Prabodh Ji, Since you read Yoga Vaashishta 7-8 years back it would be nice if you read it now once again......just to refresh your memory. Best Wishes, Shruti Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear All NamasteThere were angry and some very angry reactions on this thread. It seems that my understanding of Kundalini activation is different than most of the people in this thread. My knowledge is stright from the persons who have experienced KA and have told me many hidden things in most logical manner.(Many have doubt about this but they are not at fault. I am very poor at

expressing what I know!)There seems to be some confusion about the keywords such as Moksha,Bhaktimarga and Kundalini. Basic aim of Sadhana is to obtain gyana in Adhyatma. You can obtain knowledge by many means like by Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti yoga. Kundalini yoga is subclass of Raja yoga. Now to say that those who follow Gyana or Bhakti marga will also expirence KA is very bold statement. Every marga will give you ultimate knowledge but every marga will not be through Kundalini. The person who has fully activated Kundalini and person who has reached ultimate level in Bhakti marga will have same knowledge to share. Both will be realized souls and will have same knowledge. But there means will be different. Bhakti marga is more popular as it is considered to be simple and safe. Most of the Santa are from Bhakti marga. So many feel that Bhakti marga Santa must have obtain knowledge through Kundalini activation.

Since Kundalini activation experience is very difficult to express, Rishis have written Puranas and MahaKavyas(Ramayan & Mahabharat) to explain those hidden secrets with the help of stories and allegories. Once such story is of Kacha-Devayani-Shukracharya. It ends with the statement that Mantra should not be given to woman.( Read Gurucharitra). Shukrachary was forced to teach Sanjeevini(Kundalini is temporary death and Sanjeevini is life after such death) to his daughter. Shukracharya knew that this vidya should not be given to woman but succumbed to the pressures put by his daughter. Shukracharya dies in the process and Devayani learns. Kacha as well learns as he was in the stomach of Shukracharya. Kacha comes out in Bramha where as Devayani makes a strong request for marriage which Kacha turns down. Devayani hence curses Kacha that he will not be able to use this vidya(like BhargavaRama cursed Karna in

Mahabharata). In turn Kacha says that Devayani will not marry Brahman(Brahma Janati eti Brahmana)i.e will not be able to control Brahma. Finally Brihaspati curses to all Brahman that if anybody teaches Mantra(Kundalini Vidya) to woman he will go Rairaiva Naraka. Those who believe in this story in this way strictly follow it. Others who follow literally suggest Vratas instead of Mantras to women.I was taught to read Ramayana and Mahabharata is this way. Just try to understand why Rama asked Laxyamana to cut Stana-Nak-Kana of Shoorpankha? or even, why Shiva and Brahma are enemies of each other? In YogaVashista, why Indra and Ahilya story comes again and again.(I dont exactly remember in which adhya as I read YogaVashista seven to eight years back.) Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankaraHar Har Shankar*tat savitur varenyam*

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