Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Respected Astrologers Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three weak back . Astrologically which grahs behind this . his birth data is Name :> Late Gaurav DOB :> 19-September-1983 Birth time :. 12:45 pm Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar ) sincerely veerender kaushik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Jyotisha , Namaskar AK is in ninth while Jupiter is in Kendra which gives longlife. Now bandhana yoga from AK, L and LL can decrease it to madhya ayu while the Moon position decreased it even more. Lagnesh is in gandantha in badhak while Pakesh is in rasi-sandhi. There are 3 CK replacement where finally Moon becomes AK and Varesh and in third it feels bad especially when cursed. Finally there is grahamalik which ends in Ju/Ke Yoga which shows death through accident. Ve aspects so it can be connected to car. In Utpanna Scheme it was Ve-Ra - both are connected to Maraka in D1 and D9 and Curse and in D6 they are in Marak house. It was Ar-Ta in Paryaya Dasa - both lords are in 2nd bhava which shows danger. Regards, Rafal Gendarz email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 R/Sir, Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is one of the important factor for accidental death, and whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life. I find that the remedial measures for such horoscopes are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the stones of badhakesh and markesh according to ascendant. Regards, Ajay Pandav 9422202500 --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > Dear Sir, > > Sorry to hear this sad news. > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi. > Chandra being in > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord > is > debilitated. > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on > weak Moon. > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the > karaka for > accidents. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik > wrote: > > > Respected Astrologers > > Why this Talented young boy died in > accident Three > > weak back . > > Astrologically which grahs behind this . > > his birth data is > > Name :> Late Gaurav > > DOB :> 19-September-1983 > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar > ) > > > > sincerely > > veerender kaushik > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Veerender, Sorry to hear about sad demise of this young person. I am getting Ketu and Jupiter in D9 lagna and 9H. Can you describe his special talents please? He has Rahu in 3rd from AL and Saturn in 8H in D1. Rashi in 3H is Taurus which indicates Fields and forests. 3H rashi often indicates the area where death takes place. Did that happen in his case? Saturn in 8H from AL can indicate damage to kidney or urinary system. Was that the case? Please throw some light for learning and also confirm that the chart I am looking at is right (Scorpio lagna in D1 and Aq lagna in D9) Thanks Ramesh On Behalf Of veerender_kaushik Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:40 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young boy died in accident ? Respected Astrologers Why this Talented young boy died in accident Three weak back . Astrologically which grahs behind this . his birth data is Name :> Late Gaurav DOB :> 19-September-1983 Birth time :. 12:45 pm Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar ) sincerely veerender kaushik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Ajay, I get lagna lord Mars in 9H. The basic details of the chart drawn up by me are as follows; September 19, 1983 Time: 12:45:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 75 E 46' 00 " , 31 N 13' 00 " Phagwara, India Am I making any mistake? I have taken 12:45 pm as afternoon. Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of Ajay Pandav Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:53 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young boy died in accident ? R/Sir, Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is one of the important factor for accidental death, and whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life. I find that the remedial measures for such horoscopes are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the stones of badhakesh and markesh according to ascendant. Regards, Ajay Pandav 9422202500 --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: > Dear Sir, > > Sorry to hear this sad news. > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi. > Chandra being in > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord > is > debilitated. > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on > weak Moon. > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the > karaka for > accidents. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik > > wrote: > > > Respected Astrologers > > Why this Talented young boy died in > accident Three > > weak back . > > Astrologically which grahs behind this . > > his birth data is > > Name :> Late Gaurav > > DOB :> 19-September-1983 > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar > ) > > > > sincerely > > veerender kaushik > > > > > > > > > ________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Thanks for ur reply. Yes you are right that mars comes in 9th house of lagna chart of that boy, however for judging the predictions and arriving at planetary effects, the cusp chart, i.e. bhavchalit kundali is more important and one gets the effect as per planetary position placed in cusp chart. As such, the mars in 9th house in lagna, comes in 8th house in cusp chart, and the present gochar transit of Mars is in 7th house which is also negative for a jataka having mars in 8th house. With best wishes, Ajay Pandav 9422202500 --- " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " <rgangaramani wrote: > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Ajay, > > I get lagna lord Mars in 9H. The basic details of > the chart drawn up by me > are as follows; > > > > September 19, 1983 > > Time: 12:45:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 75 E 46' 00 " , 31 N 13' 00 " > > Phagwara, India > > > > Am I making any mistake? I have taken 12:45 pm as > afternoon. > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > _____ > > > On > Behalf Of Ajay Pandav > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:53 AM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young > boy died in accident ? > > > > R/Sir, > Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late > Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is > one > of the important factor for accidental death, and > whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and > 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life. > I find that the remedial measures for such > horoscopes > are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of > mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the > stones of badhakesh and markesh according to > ascendant. > > Regards, > > Ajay Pandav > 9422202500 > --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > <krishna_1998%40> > > wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Sorry to hear this sad news. > > > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi. > > Chandra being in > > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord > > is > > debilitated. > > > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on > > weak Moon. > > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the > > karaka for > > accidents. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik@ > <veerender_kaushik%40> > > > wrote: > > > > > Respected Astrologers > > > Why this Talented young boy died in > > accident Three > > > weak back . > > > Astrologically which grahs behind this . > > > his birth data is > > > Name :> Late Gaurav > > > DOB :> 19-September-1983 > > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm > > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar > > ) > > > > > > sincerely > > > veerender kaushik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Travel. > > http://travel. <http://travel./> > / > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. > To know how, go to > http://help. > <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> > /l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 test mail , Ajay Pandav <leojay5 wrote:>> Dear Ramesh,> > Thanks for ur reply. > Yes you are right that mars comes in 9th house of> lagna chart of that boy, however for judging the> predictions and arriving at planetary effects, the> cusp chart, i.e. bhavchalit kundali is more important> and one gets the effect as per planetary position> placed in cusp chart. > As such, the mars in 9th house in lagna, comes in 8th> house in cusp chart, and the present gochar transit of> Mars is in 7th house which is also negative for a> jataka having mars in 8th house.> > With best wishes,> Ajay Pandav> 9422202500> --- "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" rgangaramani wrote:> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > > > > > Dear Ajay,> > > > I get lagna lord Mars in 9H. The basic details of> > the chart drawn up by me> > are as follows;> > > > > > > > September 19, 1983> > > > Time: 12:45:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 75 E 46' 00", 31 N 13' 00"> > > > Phagwara, India> > > > > > > > Am I making any mistake? I have taken 12:45 pm as> > afternoon.> > > > Regards> > > > Ramesh> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > On> > Behalf Of Ajay Pandav> > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:53 AM> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young> > boy died in accident ?> > > > > > > > R/Sir,> > Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late> > Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is> > one> > of the important factor for accidental death, and> > whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and> > 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life.> > I find that the remedial measures for such> > horoscopes> > are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of> > mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the> > stones of badhakesh and markesh according to> > ascendant.> > > > Regards,> > > > Ajay Pandav> > 9422202500> > --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@> > <krishna_1998%40> >> > wrote:> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > Sorry to hear this sad news.> > > > > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi.> > > Chandra being in> > > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord> > > is> > > debilitated. > > > > > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on> > > weak Moon.> > > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the> > > karaka for> > > accidents.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Krishna> > > > > > > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik@> > <veerender_kaushik%40> >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > Respected Astrologers > > > > Why this Talented young boy died in> > > accident Three> > > > weak back .> > > > Astrologically which grahs behind this . > > > > his birth data is > > > > Name :> Late Gaurav > > > > DOB :> 19-September-1983> > > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm > > > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar> > > ) > > > > > > > > sincerely > > > > veerender kaushik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> ________> > > Need a vacation? Get great deals> > > to amazing places on Travel.> > > http://travel. <http://travel./>> > /> > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish.> > To know how, go to> > http://help.> >> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html>> >> /l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> > > > > > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Dear friends, I express my deep condolence for sad demise of Young Gaurav. One question is hunting my mind after reading scholarly responses on this thread from various experts. Could we have forseen the event, if chart was presented to us as astrologers? Can someone honestly answer my question? if yes What reliable method or group of methods one should follow. with regards. OM TAT SAT - sunil nair Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:53 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young boy died in accident ? Hare rama krishna, dear veerender kaushik ji , sorry to hear the bad news of this smart young man, I find the dasa of 64th navamsa lrods from lagna and moon and sun is happening in sequence.( its described in kerala sastras) The dasa was jup --jup --rahu . from lagna 64th navamsa lord is venus from moon its jupiter from sun its mars here rahu is in venus rasi and mars nakshatra . otherwise also marak lords can kill .As all know 2nd house and lord or planets there or assossiated with them and 7th house or lord or planets there or assossiated can kill a person . Here jupiter is 2nd lord and rahu in 7th house . regrding longitivity calculations also gives alpayus from navamsa calculations which i will refer some other time . u did not postd the day of mishap and the time of it .Also u did not tell us which are the areas of his talent.Pls inform us for study purpose. regrds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ pt.sunilnair , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> test mail> , Ajay Pandav leojay5@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > Thanks for ur reply.> > Yes you are right that mars comes in 9th house of> > lagna chart of that boy, however for judging the> > predictions and arriving at planetary effects, the> > cusp chart, i.e. bhavchalit kundali is more important> > and one gets the effect as per planetary position> > placed in cusp chart.> > As such, the mars in 9th house in lagna, comes in 8th> > house in cusp chart, and the present gochar transit of> > Mars is in 7th house which is also negative for a> > jataka having mars in 8th house.> >> > With best wishes,> > Ajay Pandav> > 9422202500> > --- "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" rgangaramani@> > wrote:> >> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Ajay,> > >> > > I get lagna lord Mars in 9H. The basic details of> > > the chart drawn up by me> > > are as follows;> > >> > >> > >> > > September 19, 1983> > >> > > Time: 12:45:00> > >> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > >> > > Place: 75 E 46' 00", 31 N 13' 00"> > >> > > Phagwara, India> > >> > >> > >> > > Am I making any mistake? I have taken 12:45 pm as> > > afternoon.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Ramesh> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > > > > On> > > Behalf Of Ajay Pandav> > > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:53 AM> > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young> > > boy died in accident ?> > >> > >> > >> > > R/Sir,> > > Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late> > > Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is> > > one> > > of the important factor for accidental death, and> > > whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and> > > 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life.> > > I find that the remedial measures for such> > > horoscopes> > > are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of> > > mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the> > > stones of badhakesh and markesh according to> > > ascendant.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Ajay Pandav> > > 9422202500> > > --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@> > > <krishna_1998%40> >> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > >> > > > Sorry to hear this sad news.> > > >> > > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi.> > > > Chandra being in> > > > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord> > > > is> > > > debilitated.> > > >> > > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on> > > > weak Moon.> > > > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the> > > > karaka for> > > > accidents.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Krishna> > > >> > > >> > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik@> > > <veerender_kaushik%40> >> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Respected Astrologers> > > > > Why this Talented young boy died in> > > > accident Three> > > > > weak back .> > > > > Astrologically which grahs behind this .> > > > > his birth data is> > > > > Name :> Late Gaurav> > > > > DOB :> 19-September-1983> > > > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm> > > > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar> > > > )> > > > >> > > > > sincerely> > > > > veerender kaushik> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ________> > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals> > > > to amazing places on Travel.> > > > http://travel. <http://travel./>> > > /> > > >> > >> > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish.> > > To know how, go to> > > http://help.> > >> > <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html>> > >> > /l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Go to> http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swami, I could not have. I am looking for reconfirmation of birth details. Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of swami Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:35 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young boy died in accident ? Dear friends, I express my deep condolence for sad demise of Young Gaurav. One question is hunting my mind after reading scholarly responses on this thread from various experts. Could we have forseen the event, if chart was presented to us as astrologers? Can someone honestly answer my question? if yes What reliable method or group of methods one should follow. with regards. OM TAT SAT - sunil nair Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:53 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young boy died in accident ? Hare rama krishna, dear veerender kaushik ji , sorry to hear the bad news of this smart young man, I find the dasa of 64th navamsa lrods from lagna and moon and sun is happening in sequence.( its described in kerala sastras) The dasa was jup --jup --rahu . from lagna 64th navamsa lord is venus from moon its jupiter from sun its mars here rahu is in venus rasi and mars nakshatra . otherwise also marak lords can kill .As all know 2nd house and lord or planets there or assossiated with them and 7th house or lord or planets there or assossiated can kill a person . Here jupiter is 2nd lord and rahu in 7th house . regrding longitivity calculations also gives alpayus from navamsa calculations which i will refer some other time . u did not postd the day of mishap and the time of it .Also u did not tell us which are the areas of his talent.Pls inform us for study purpose. regrds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ pt.sunilnair , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > test mail > , Ajay Pandav leojay5@ wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Thanks for ur reply. > > Yes you are right that mars comes in 9th house of > > lagna chart of that boy, however for judging the > > predictions and arriving at planetary effects, the > > cusp chart, i.e. bhavchalit kundali is more important > > and one gets the effect as per planetary position > > placed in cusp chart. > > As such, the mars in 9th house in lagna, comes in 8th > > house in cusp chart, and the present gochar transit of > > Mars is in 7th house which is also negative for a > > jataka having mars in 8th house. > > > > With best wishes, > > Ajay Pandav > > 9422202500 > > --- " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " rgangaramani@ > > wrote: > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ajay, > > > > > > I get lagna lord Mars in 9H. The basic details of > > > the chart drawn up by me > > > are as follows; > > > > > > > > > > > > September 19, 1983 > > > > > > Time: 12:45:00 > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > Place: 75 E 46' 00 " , 31 N 13' 00 " > > > > > > Phagwara, India > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I making any mistake? I have taken 12:45 pm as > > > afternoon. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of Ajay Pandav > > > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:53 AM > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Why Talented Young > > > boy died in accident ? > > > > > > > > > > > > R/Sir, > > > Really so sorry to go through the horoscope of late > > > Gaurav, the ascendant lord Mars is in 8th house is > > > one > > > of the important factor for accidental death, and > > > whenever gochar of mars transit in 7th and 8th, and > > > 12th houses, the accidents occurred in life. > > > I find that the remedial measures for such > > > horoscopes > > > are wearing of 8th mukhi rudraksha, chanting of > > > mahamrutunjay japa daily 11 times, and donating the > > > stones of badhakesh and markesh according to > > > ascendant. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ajay Pandav > > > 9422202500 > > > --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > <krishna_1998%40> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear this sad news. > > > > > > > > Basically, Chandra is weak being in a sandhi. > > > > Chandra being in > > > > 8th also affects longevity. Mars who is lagna lord > > > > is > > > > debilitated. > > > > > > > > Note that debilitated Mars has a strong aspect on > > > > weak Moon. > > > > Mars also aspects Moon in Navamsha. Mars is the > > > > karaka for > > > > accidents. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > --- veerender_kaushik <veerender_kaushik@ > > > <veerender_kaushik%40> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Astrologers > > > > > Why this Talented young boy died in > > > > accident Three > > > > > weak back . > > > > > Astrologically which grahs behind this . > > > > > his birth data is > > > > > Name :> Late Gaurav > > > > > DOB :> 19-September-1983 > > > > > Birth time :. 12:45 pm > > > > > Birth Place :> Phagwara Punjab ( near jullandhar > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > sincerely > > > > > veerender kaushik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > > to amazing places on Travel. > > > > http://travel. <http://travel./> > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. > > > To know how, go to > > > http://help. > > > > > <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html> > > > > > /l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Go to > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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