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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Zavisa,

 

Pranaams.

 

>

> Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

>

> BTW, Gauranga can you or anybody else forward me birth data of

Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and > save me trouble from going

through old jyotish-list archives. Also VKC data that he posted

> there, and if its not a secret SJVC data.

 

I have added Sri Catnaya Mahaprabhu's birth chart below, as per

the data given by B.V. Raman and calculated with JHLite.

Interestingly, for the same data PC Jyotish puts Moon into Pisces

together with Lagna in Sasthyamsa, which I tend to accept more,

as both Krishna and Rama had this combination, so this would show

Lord Caitanya to be Their reincarnation, although not as an

ordinary human, as Sasthyamsa Lagna is in Pisces, which may show

Him to be an Avatar, because Jupiter is the Atmakaraka and Lagna

is lorded by Him and in the 12th from Him. So He was on the

liberated platform from His previous life, so to say, yet He

chose to appear (paritraanaya saadhunam vinaashaya ca dushkritaam

dharma samsthaapanaarthaaya sambhavami yuge yuge)

 

I think that we could do the Moola Dasa exercise with His chart

also.

Zavisa, I don't know what you mean by VKC data and SJVC data.

 

Yours, Gauranga das

 

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These calculations were made using " Jagannatha Hora Lite " . It is

a

free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download

it

from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz.

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Date of Birth: February 18, 1486

Time of Birth: 8:56:00 pm

Time Zone of Birth: 5:54 East of GMT

Longitude of Birth: 88 E 25

Latitude of Birth: 23 N 23

Lunar month (maasa): Phalguna

Lunar day (tithi): Pournimasya

Tithi balance: 0.0706

Nakshatra balance: 0.3903

Sun-Moon Yoga: Dhriti

 

Sunrise = 6:26 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

Ayanamsa = 16-41-25

Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

 

Planet Position Pada CharaK Resi OwnTara InTara

Rasi Nava Naks Sub

 

Ascdt 2 Li 40 Chitra 3 - - - Kshema

Ve Ve Ma Ve

Sun 22 Aq 18 Poo.Bhaa. 1 BK 31% Sampat Sadhana

Sa Ma Ju Sa

Moon 21 Le 27 Poo.Pha. 3 MK 25% Vipat Janma

Su Ve Ve Ju

Mars 11 Cp 15 Sravanam 1 PiK 43% Kshema Vipat

Sa Ma Mo Ma

Mercury 10 Pi 20 U.Bhaa. 3 PK 49% Mitra Naidhana

Ju Ve Sa Su

Jupiter 24 Sg 14 Poo.Shaa. 4 AK 44% Sadhana Janma

Ju Ma Ve Me

Venus 5 Ar 05 Aswini 2 GK 84% Janma P.Mitra

Ma Ve Ke Ma

Saturn 22 Sc 33 Jyeshtha 2 AmK 33% Naidhana Mitra

Ma Sa Me Mo

Rahu 26 Aq 36 Poo.Bhaa. 2 DK 60% Pratyak Sadhana

Sa Ve Ju Ve

Ketu 26 Le 36 Poo.Pha. 4 - 60% P.Mitra Janma

Su Ma Ve Ke

BhavaLg 29 Vi 10 Chitra 2 - 77% -- Kshema

Me Me Ma Sa

HoraLg 6 Ta 39 Krittika 3 - 73% -- Sampat

Ve Sa Su Me

GhatiLg 29 Aq 05 Poo.Bhaa. 3 - 76% -- Sadhana

Sa Me Ju Su

Dhooma 5 Cn 38 Pushyami 1 - 80% -- Naidhana

Mo Su Sa Me

Vyati 24 Sg 21 Poo.Shaa. 4 - 45% -- Janma

Ju Ma Ve Me

Pari 24 Ge 21 Punarvasu 2 - 45% -- Sadhana

Me Ve Ju Me

I.Chapa 5 Cp 38 U.Shaa. 3 - 80% -- Sampat

Sa Sa Su Me

Upaketu 22 Cp 18 Sravanam 4 - 31% -- Vipat

Sa Mo Mo Ve

Kaala 16 Sc 42 Jyeshtha 1 - 6% -- Mitra

Ma Ju Me Me

Mrityu 28 Sg 58 U.Shaa. 1 - 75% -- Sampat

Ju Ju Su Ma

ArthaPr 23 Cp 31 Dhanishtha 1 - 39% -- Kshema

Sa Su Ma Ma

YamaGha 23 Le 02 Poo.Pha. 3 - 36% -- Janma

Su Ve Ve Sa

Gulika 5 Li 33 Chitra 4 - 81% -- Kshema

Ve Ma Ma Su

 

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Mer | Ven | HL | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| Sun | | |

| | | |

| Rah | | |

| | | |

| GL | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| | | Moo |

| Mar | | |

| | | Ket |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | Asc | |

| Jup | Sat | | BL |

| | | Glk | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | Mar | Ven | |

| | | | GL |

| | Sun | Rah | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| HL | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Sat | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | Ket | Moo | |

| | | | |

| | Glk | Asc | BL |

| | | | |

| | Jup | Mer | |

+----------------------+

 

 

Vimsottari Dasa:

 

Venu 1486-02-18 Satu 1486-10-09 Merc 1489-12-09 Ketu

1492-10-09

Sun 1493-12-09 Moon 1494-03-28 Mars 1494-09-27 Rahu

1495-02-02 Jupi 1495-12-28

Satu 1496-10-15 Merc 1497-09-27 Ketu

1498-08-03 Venu 1498-12-09

Moon 1499-12-09 Mars 1500-10-10 Rahu 1501-05-11 Jupi

1502-11-10 Satu 1504-03-11

Merc 1505-10-10 Ketu 1507-03-11 Venu

1507-10-10 Sun 1509-06-10

Mars 1509-12-10 Rahu 1510-05-08 Jupi 1511-05-26 Satu

1512-05-01 Merc 1513-06-10

Ketu 1514-06-07 Venu 1514-11-03 Sun

1516-01-04 Moon 1516-05-10

Rahu 1516-12-09 Jupi 1519-08-23 Satu 1522-01-15 Merc

1524-11-21 Ketu 1527-06-10

Venu 1528-06-28 Sun 1531-06-29 Moon

1532-05-22 Mars 1533-11-21

Jupi 1534-12-10 Satu 1537-01-27 Merc 1539-08-10 Ketu

1541-11-15 Venu 1542-10-22

Sun 1545-06-22 Moon 1546-04-10 Mars

1547-08-10 Rahu 1548-07-16

Satu 1550-12-10 Merc 1553-12-12 Ketu 1556-08-22 Venu

1557-09-30 Sun 1560-11-30

Moon 1561-11-12 Mars 1563-06-13 Rahu

1564-07-22 Jupi 1567-05-29

Merc 1569-12-09 Ketu 1572-05-07 Venu 1573-05-04 Sun

1576-03-04 Moon 1577-01-08

Mars 1578-06-10 Rahu 1579-06-07 Jupi

1581-12-24 Satu 1584-03-31

Ketu 1586-12-09 Venu 1587-05-08 Sun 1588-07-07 Moon

1588-11-11 Mars 1589-06-13

Rahu 1589-11-09 Jupi 1590-11-27 Satu

1591-11-03 Merc 1592-12-12

 

Ashtottari Dasa:

 

Moon 1486-02-18 Rahu 1487-09-02 Venu 1489-05-02 Sun

1492-04-02

Mars 1493-01-31 Merc 1493-09-05 Satu 1494-12-09 Jupi

1495-09-05 Rahu 1497-01-31

Venu 1497-12-22 Sun 1499-07-13 Moon

1499-12-22

Merc 1501-02-01 Satu 1503-10-06 Jupi 1505-05-03 Rahu

1508-04-30 Venu 1510-03-21

Sun 1513-07-10 Moon 1514-06-20 Mars

1516-10-29

Satu 1518-02-01 Jupi 1519-01-05 Rahu 1520-10-09 Venu

1521-11-19 Sun 1523-10-30

Moon 1524-05-20 Mars 1525-10-09 Merc

1526-07-07

Jupi 1528-02-02 Rahu 1531-06-07 Venu 1533-07-17 Sun

1537-03-27 Moon 1538-04-16

Mars 1540-12-05 Merc 1542-05-03 Satu

1545-04-30

Rahu 1547-02-01 Venu 1548-06-02 Sun 1550-10-02 Moon

1551-06-03 Mars 1553-02-01

Merc 1553-12-22 Satu 1555-11-12 Jupi

1556-12-22

Venu 1559-02-01 Sun 1563-03-04 Moon 1564-05-03 Mars

1567-04-03 Merc 1568-10-22

Satu 1572-02-11 Jupi 1574-01-22 Rahu

1577-10-02

Sun 1580-02-01 Moon 1580-06-02 Mars 1581-04-02 Merc

1581-09-12 Satu 1582-08-23

Jupi 1583-03-14 Rahu 1584-04-02 Venu

1584-12-02

Moon 1586-02-01 Mars 1588-03-03 Merc 1589-04-12 Satu

1591-08-23 Jupi 1593-01-11

Rahu 1595-09-02 Venu 1597-05-03 Sun

1600-04-02

 

Kalachakra Dasa:

 

Vi 1486-02-18 Sc 1486-06-29 Pi 1487-03-27 Aq 1488-04-17

Cp 1488-09-19 Ge 1489-02-20 Le 1490-02-03 Cn

1490-08-16

Li 1492-11-05 Sc 1495-11-10 Pi 1497-03-05 Aq 1499-01-22 Cp

1499-10-24

Ge 1500-07-26 Le 1502-04-06 Cn 1503-03-15 Vi

1507-02-26

Sc 1508-11-06 Pi 1509-06-04 Aq 1510-04-01 Cp 1510-07-30 Ge

1510-11-28

Le 1511-08-25 Cn 1512-01-23 Vi 1513-10-16 Li

1514-07-13

Pi 1515-11-07 Aq 1517-01-09 Cp 1517-06-30 Ge 1517-12-19 Le

1519-01-10

Cn 1519-08-13 Vi 1522-01-31 Li 1523-02-22 Sc

1525-01-09

Aq 1525-11-06 Cp 1526-01-14 Ge 1526-03-23 Le 1526-08-25 Cn

1526-11-19

Vi 1527-11-15 Li 1528-04-18 Sc 1529-01-18 Pi

1529-05-18

Cp 1529-11-06 Ge 1530-01-14 Le 1530-06-17 Cn 1530-09-11 Vi

1531-09-07

Li 1532-02-09 Sc 1532-11-10 Pi 1533-03-10 Aq

1533-08-29

Sg 1533-11-06 Sc 1534-11-06 Li 1535-07-20 Vi 1537-02-23 Le

1538-01-18

Cn 1538-07-20 Ge 1540-08-25 Ta 1541-07-19 Ar

1543-02-24

Sc 1543-11-06 Li 1544-05-03 Vi 1545-06-16 Le 1546-02-01 Cn

1546-06-09

Ge 1547-11-28 Ta 1548-07-15 Ar 1549-08-28 Sg

1550-02-23

Li 1550-11-06 Vi 1553-05-29 Le 1554-11-06 Cn 1555-08-25 Ge

1559-01-03

Ta 1560-06-12 Ar 1563-01-03 Sg 1564-02-16 Sc

1565-09-23

Vi 1566-11-06 Le 1567-08-29 Cn 1568-02-09 Ge 1569-12-30 Ta

1570-10-22

Ar 1572-03-31 Sg 1572-11-16 Sc 1573-10-11 Li

1574-05-29

Le 1575-11-06 Cn 1576-02-05 Ge 1577-02-23 Ta 1577-08-06 Ar

1578-05-25

Sg 1578-09-30 Sc 1579-04-01 Li 1579-08-07 Vi

1580-05-25

Cn 1580-11-05 Ge 1585-04-04 Ta 1587-02-23 Ar 1590-07-05 Sg

1591-12-23

Sc 1594-01-28 Li 1595-07-19 Vi 1598-11-28 Le

1600-10-18

 

+----------------------+

| | Ven | | |

| | | | |

| BL | Asc | | HL |

| | | | |

| | Glk | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Mer | | Sat |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| H O R A |-------------|

| Moo Ket | | |

| | | |

| Sun | | |

| | | |

| Rah GL | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | Mar | Jup |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | Ven | HL | |

| | | | |

| | Moo | BL | |

| | | | |

| | Ket | Mar | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | Sat |

| | | |

| | | Mer |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 3 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | Jup |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | Asc Glk | |

| | | | |

| | | Sun | |

| | | | |

| | | Rah GL | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | Ven | HL | BL |

| | | | |

| | Mar | Ket | Mer |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Moo | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 4 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | Sat |

| | | |

| | | Sun |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | Rah | Asc | |

| | | | Jup |

| | GL | Glk | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | Ven | | |

| | | | Moo |

| | Asc | | |

| | | | Sun |

| | Glk | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 5 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Sat | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | HL |

| | | Ket Jup | |

| | BL | | Mar |

| | | Rah GL | |

| | | | Mer |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | Ven | |

| BL | Asc | | |

| | | Glk | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Sat | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 6 |-------------|

| | | Moo |

| | | |

| | | Jup |

| | | |

| | | Sun |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | Ket |

| Mar | | | |

| | HL | | Rah |

| Mer | | | |

| | | | GL |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | Ven | |

| | | | |

| | | Jup | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Ket | | Sun |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 7 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | Rah |

| Moo | | |

| | | GL |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | Glk | Asc | BL |

| HL | | | |

| | Mer | Sat | Mar |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | Ven Moo | |

| BL | Asc | | Sat |

| | | Glk Sun | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | Ket Mar |

| Jup | | |

| | | Rah GL |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 8 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| HL | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | Mer | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| HL | | | |

| | Ket | Ven | |

| Moo | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| BL | | |

| | | |

| Sat | | |

| | | |

| Mer | | |

|-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | Jup |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | Glk | Asc | |

| Mar | | | Sun |

| | GL | Rah | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | Ven | |

| | Jup | | |

| Rah | | HL | |

| | GL | | |

| | | Sat | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Sun | | Moo |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 1 1 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | Mer |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | Ket |

| Glk | Mar | Asc | |

| | | | BL |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | | Ven |

| | Moo | Mar | |

| | | | Ket |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | HL |

| | | |

| | | Mer |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 1 2 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | BL |

| GL | | |

| | | Sat |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| Glk | | | |

| | Asc | Sun | Jup |

| Rah | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | Asc | Ven |

| BL | | | |

| | | Mer | Glk |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | Moo |

| | | |

| | | Sun |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | Sat |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | Ket | |

| | HL | | |

| Jup | | Mar | |

| | GL | | |

| | | Rah | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | Ket | |

| BL | | | |

| | HL | Asc | |

| Sat | | | |

| | | Rah | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| Moo | | Ven |

| | | |

| Sun | | Glk |

| | | |

| Mer | | GL |

|-------------| D - 2 0 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Jup | Mar | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| Jup | | Ket | |

| | Mar | | BL |

| Mer | | Rah | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | GL |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 2 4 |-------------|

| Moo | | |

| | | |

| Sat | | |

| | | |

| Sun | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| Ven | | | |

| | | | |

| HL | | Asc | |

| | | | |

| Glk | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Ket | | Mar | Sun |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Glk | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 2 7 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Jup | | Ven |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| HL | | | BL |

| | | | |

| Asc | Moo | Mer | Sat |

| | | | |

| GL | | | Rah |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | Moo |

| | | | |

| | Asc | | Jup |

| | | | |

| | | | Sun |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| Ven | | |

| | | |

| Glk | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 3 0 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Sat | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | Ket | HL |

| | | | |

| | BL | Rah | Mar |

| | | | |

| | | GL | Mer |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| Ket | | | HL |

| | Sat | | |

| Rah | | | GL |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | Asc |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 4 0 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Mar | | Moo |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| BL | Glk | | |

| | | Ven | Sun |

| Jup | Mer | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | HL | |

| GL | | | |

| | Moo | Sat | |

| Mer | | | |

| | | Sun | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | BL |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 4 5 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | Asc |

| | | |

| | | Mar |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | Ven | | |

| Glk | | | |

| | Ket | | |

| Jup | | | |

| | Rah | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Asc | | | HL |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| Ven | | BL |

| | | |

| Moo | | Rah |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Ket | | Sat |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| Jup | Mar | | |

| | | Sun | Glk |

| GL | Mer | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

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Namaste Gauranga,

 

I agree with you that Moon should be in lagna in D-60

considering that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was born with an

amsa of Sri Krishna (or an avatar of Krishna - based on

your distinction of avatar vs amsa).

 

I don't know what exactly PC Jyotish does and how

accurate it is for births in 1400's. I checked the

positions for the birthdata you gave using a much more

accurate version of JH. Moon is at the end of Aq

shashtyamsa. For Moon to be in Pi in D-60, one would

have to move navamsa lagna from Li to Sc. I am not

comfortable with that. Gaja-Kesari yoga in navamsa

lagna is very fitting and I do not like moving navamsa

lagna.

 

But we have to choose between (1) lagna in Li in D-9

and Moon in Aq in D-60 and (2) lagna in Sc in D-9 and

Moon in Pi in D-60. Navamsa lagna changes before

Shashtyamsa Chandra.

 

However, one concluding remark: This is based on Lahiri

ayanamsa. Based on my Kalachakra dasa researches, I use

a slightly different ayanamsa. Using that ayanamsa, it

is possible to get lagna in D-9 in Li with Gaja-Kesari

yoga and lagna in D-60 in Pi with Moon in it.

 

So we should defer this particular rectification until

the issue of ayanamsa is resolved. It has a direct

bearing on the rectification here.

 

> I have added Sri Catnaya Mahaprabhu's birth chart below, as per

> the data given by B.V. Raman and calculated with JHLite.

> Interestingly, for the same data PC Jyotish puts Moon into Pisces

> together with Lagna in Sasthyamsa, which I tend to accept more,

> as both Krishna and Rama had this combination, so this would show

> Lord Caitanya to be Their reincarnation, although not as an

> ordinary human, as Sasthyamsa Lagna is in Pisces, which may show

> Him to be an Avatar, because Jupiter is the Atmakaraka and Lagna

> is lorded by Him and in the 12th from Him. So He was on the

> liberated platform from His previous life, so to say, yet He

> chose to appear (paritraanaya saadhunam vinaashaya ca dushkritaam

> dharma samsthaapanaarthaaya sambhavami yuge yuge)

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

PS: Goravani uses a different chart. Did you see it?

But I think Dr. Raman's chart is more or less correct

and based on the correct research.

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Pranaam Sanjay,

 

> Dear Zavisa,

> Use this chart instead .

> This program is under development by Narasimha and is very bery

good for all

> calculations. My work has become so much easier because of this.

> May Jagannath Mahaprabhu guide him.

 

Thank you for the blessings.

 

To others: JHLite is based on analytical formulas and

Moon's position can be inaccurate. It can be wrong by as

much as 1-2 arc-min. But Jagannatha Hora is based on an

accurate ephemeris and Moon's position is very accurate.

Of course, we always have the uncertainty of ayanamsa.

But that's a different issue.

 

In the case of Chaitanya's chart, however, JHLite and JH

both give the same longitude for Moon. PC Jyotish must

be a little off for Moon.

 

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

>

>

> These calculations were made with " Jagannatha Hora " . A free

> version of it from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre can be downloaded

> from http://www.sjvc.net or http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz.

>

>

> Date of Birth: February 18, 1486

> Time of Birth: 8:00:00 pm

> Time Zone of Birth: 5:53 East of GMT

> Longitude of Birth: 88 E 08

> Latitude of Birth: 22 N 27

>

> Planet Position Pada CharaK

>

> Ascdt 19 Vi 52'18.76 " Hastha 3 -

 

I am uncomfortable with this for the following reason:

 

Parasara instructed that all of Vishnu's avataras have

raja yoga producing planets in Devalokamsa (7). He also

instructed that great men have the lords of quadrants

with good amsabala. For example, a quadrant lord in

Brahmalokamsa (8) would produce a Muni (great Sage). In

practice, we see that great men have lagna lord with a

good amsabala. For example, you have AK Saturn in

Uttamamsa (3) and lagna lord Jupiter in Simhasanamsa

(5). The great Ramakrishna Paramahansa had lagna lord

Saturn exalted in the 9th house in Devalokamsa (7). He

was the nearest to a Muni in this age.

 

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was the greatest personality of

the last millennium. If lagna lord is Mercury, lagna

lord is debilitated and he doesn't even have

Parijatamsa (2). The best quadrant lord amsa we have

is Jupiter in Parijatamsa. I am uncomfortable with

that.

 

With lagna in Li, the 4 lords of quadrants are in

Uttamamsa (3), Uttamamsa (3), Gopuramsa (4) and

Parijatamsa (2). Though no single planet is in

Devalokamsa or Brahmalokamsa, all the quadrant lords

being in good amsas can give the same effect.

Parasara stressed the amsas of quadrant lords.

 

For this reason, I am uncomfortable with Virgo lagna.

I will be more comfortable with Li lagna. Moreover,

several other arguments given by Dr. Raman seem to be

pretty sound. Can you please answer my concern and

give the other rationale behind Vi lagna sometime?

 

Your sishya,

Narasimha

 

PS: If you can find something in Sri Achyuta Dasa's

writings, that will be the most authentic.

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