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Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

 

To add up on what I wrote yesterday yesterday, there is a need for some

muhurta in lines with

exposition of this lecture you can see down.(Last part of it.) Can you

advice?

 

yours sisya,

 

Zavisa

 

 

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Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja

South East Asia/ Australia Tour 2000

Report from Cessnock, N.S.W., Australia; 1st February 2000

 

Morning Class

 

As Gurudeva arrived in Cessnock, New South Wales, after a very

successful tour of Fiji, he was welcomed very beautifully. First,

Yugala Kishora prabhu, at whose house Gurudeva is staying, gave a very

inspiring

welcome speech. He related how it seems like a very short time since

Srila A.C.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada came to the West and created such a

revolution in the hearts and minds of so many individuals. According to

him, Srila Prabhupada had so much potency, that even those who could

not personally meet him were impelled to give up all material desires.

Yugala Kishora prabhu: This process is very powerful, and because he is

a bona fide personality, anyone who received his instructions and was

somewhat serious, would soon, very easily, pick up the true spirit.

Srila Prabhupada was really a giant even among the disciplic

succession, even

amongst the teaching mission of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu; and thus he

was able to do such a wonderful, extraordinary thing.

According to Krsna's plan, another giant in our disciplic succession,

namely Srila Gurudeva, came. He is following in the footsteps of Srila

Prabhupada. He came and did yet another extraordinary thing; created

another revolution, the magnanimity of which will not be understood for

a very long time. It is not that ordinary persons can do. So, for

those

of us who are fortunate enough, being inspired to go further, and not

only

hear the words, but follow his instructions. When I first met Srila

Gurudeva, I said to myself, " The first thing I will do is look at his

disciples, and if they are fanatical, I will not be interested " .

I looked hard, and all I could see was very, very loving devotees who

are practising the etiquettes of Krsna consciousness. I felt this was

what

I always wanted, and I am sure what others wanted, when we joined the

original Hare Krsna movement. Then I was thinking, this is so very

nice.

 

How wonderful must this spiritual master be. And I was reminded just a

couple of weeks ago - all the devotees were lamenting when Prema

Prayojana prabhu and Subala Sakha prabhu left. What to speak of when

Srila

Gurudeva leaves; the devotees already miss the association of his

disciples so

much.

 

So I offer my humble respect to all the devotees, and to our most dear

Srila Gurudeva. I hope you have a comfortable stay here. By Krsna's

mercy you have come.

 

SBNM: Syamarani, the senior-most disciple of Swamiji, will speak.

 

SYR: (mangalacarana). I am very inspired by the words of Yugala Kishora

prabhu. He told some hint of what Srila Prabhupada came to give us. One

of the things that Srila Prabhupada gave us are the songs of Srila

Bhaktivinoda Thakura. And today we see particularly one of those songs

coming to life from the page. That is, he writes, " Oh my Lord Hari,

Srila Rupa Goswami has now appeared in the form of the spiritual master.

Srila Rupa Goswami himself, who is Sri Rupa Manjari, has appeared

before us

now in the form of the spiritual master, and,siksa dile mora kane. He

gave us the following instructions; that is, Srila Rupa Goswami himself

gave us these instructions in the form of the spiritual master.

jano mora katha

Please try to understand my words. Who should understand? Namera

kangala - do you know kangala? Beggars. And they go like this: 'Give me

something, give me something.' That is kangala: those who are begging

for the

gift of the holy name. " O Gurudeva, I have no power to chant the holy

name of

Krsna. Give me just one more drop of your mercy, so that I can taste

the great treasure of the holy name " . Try to understand my words ...

jano

mora katha. O you who are begging for the gift of the holy name,

rati

pabe nama gane; and then you will be able to taste the nectar essence

of the

holy name. And what are the words of instruction?

tan nama-rupa-caritadi

sukirtananu-smrtyoh

The rest of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura's song is about how Srila Rupa

Goswami, in the form of the spiritual master, teaches us how to chant

the holy names, by remembering the pastimes of each name. And which

names to chant? Those names who are the fulfillment of our soul's

aspiration: gopi bhartur pada-kamalayor dasa dasanudasa.

When B equals C, if A equals B, then A also must equal C. The spiritual

master is a manifestation of Sri Rupa Goswami. Srila Bhaktivinoda

Thakura, who wrote that song, is naturally also a manifestation of

Srila Rupa

Goswami. He is also a guru. We know Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura to be a

manifestation of Sri Gadadhara Pandita (gaura-sakti svarupaya), so that

means Srila Gurudeva is also a manifestation of Gadadhara Pandita. He

is a manifestation of Baladeva, a manifestation of Nityananda, Who is

akhanda guru tattva. The complete guru. Siksa guru-ke to jani krsnera

svarupa.

Gurudeva is the personality of Krsna Himself. He is non-different from

the form of Krsna Himself, manifested to give us His divine

instructions,

as a reality in our heart. So we are so fortunate to have Srila Rupa

Goswami

manifest on the couch [before us].

 

SBNM: I want that Vraja Vallabha should speak. He is a very qualified

and senior Vaisnava.

 

VV: I am very unqualified. Ei baro koruna koro vaisnava gosani. We are

really all here on the mercy of our spiritual master. All we have to do

is empty ourselves from other things and simply make ourselves

available.

All these troubles, and anarthas and unnecessary baggage we carry in our

hearts- we just have to let them go and simply joyfully associate with

vaisnavas and Gurudeva. Then so many transformations will take place.

There is so much potential in the heart of all devotees, and by coming

into contact

with our spiritual master, so many glorious things will then take

place. We

don't have to quarrel anymore with the reactions of our karma, we just

accept that; and we concentrate and collect all our energies,

concentrate

with all our minds on bhakti.

 

SBNM: I know that by the mercy of my diksa guru, nitya lila pravista om

visnupada astottara sata Sri Srimad Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Maharaja;

and my siksa guru, my friend and so many relationships, Sri Srimad

Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja; only by their mercy I have come. I am not

coming. They are inspiring me to go everywhere and preach their

mission. I know that I am a dry straw, no qualification as they

glorify me. I am not such a high class of devotee. I have not so much

bhakti, but I know the mercy of my

Gurudeva and my siksa guru, Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja. Their

mercy is

making me go here and there to preach their mission. In Brhad

Bhagavatamrta, I have read that sadhu sanga is the root of all success,

all bhakti, everything. If there is no good association, no one can

attain love for Radha-Krsna, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Nityanada

prabhu.

 

In this world very rare persons are anxious to have bhakti for Sri Sri

Radha and Krsna, and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Very rare. But I know

that Krsna is so much anxious, and He is more worried for us. And He is

searching for us. He is calling us. He is so merciful that He told

Radhika, " Oh, my bhakta [the brahmana] is searching for me. You should

help

him " .

And then She sent Gopa Kumara - " Go at once to this martya-loka and by

any trick you should bring him " . And Sri Sanatana Goswami, in the last,

has

given a glorification of this high class of association. Perhaps you

know all about the brahmana who went to Kamaksa devi in India because he

wanted wealth. That is why he was worshipping Kamaksa devi, who is

Durga devi

She was so merciful. She never gave him any wealth. She used to give so

much wealth to others, but for him there was some exception. She gave

him

gopala mantra, in a dream, and told him who is the deity of this

mantra, and

how we should chant our mantra 3 times [daily], and how we should offer

ourselves, be saranagata to their lotus feet. But he thought it was

only a dream, nothing else. So he overlooked it. After four or five

days that

devi, goddess, again came in a dream, and said, " Oh, you're not

following

my orders. You must follow my orders, and then you will be successful

in your life, and you will have everything you desire. But don't delay.

>From today you should follow with high regard [respect], and very strong

faith " .

 

After some time that brahmana became detached from all worldly desires,

and he forgot to ask any wealth from Devi. He left and came to Bengal at

Sagara (ocean), and from there he went to Gaya, and Kasi, and from

there he

went to Vrndavana, and he was thinking, " What is sadhya and sadhana? " .

He

was so worried for it, and then he heard someone weeping very loudly.

But

weeping in what way? Whether they were weeping, or singing in melody -

he could

not differentiate. After some time he entered that kunja and saw a

beautiful gopa, like a sakha of Krsna - Gopa Kumara. And he was weeping

" Oh

Krsna! Oh Krsna! " , in a song like the gopis had wept for Krsna in rasa

lila:

tava kathamritam tapta jivanam/ kavibhir iditam kalmasapaham

sravana mangalam srimad atatam/ bhuvi grhnanti ye bhurida janah

 

They were weeping, but it was like a pathetic song. Krsna could

not control Himself and He appeared at once. Simalarly Gopa Kumar was

weeping like this. Then the brahmin, when there, with folded hands

requested Him. Gopa Kumar had been meditating and his meditation was

broken. Then Gopa Kumara said, " You are a brahmana and you went to

Prayaga, Jyotisapura and you worshipped Kamaksha Devi for wealth.

Then brahmin asked, " How did you know? "

" Yes I have done this. "

Gopa Kumar replied, " And she gave you Gopala mantra and

also the outlines. " " How do you know? 'Yes, I have done.' he replied.

He was

thinking, " How did he know all these things? Very strange. " " She also

warned you not to delay in Kasi otherwise you will be pukka mayavadi.

Go to Prayaga and take bath, but don't delay there. Then go to

Vrndavana. "

So a guru who is bona fide, before giving initiation, will do

some things so that the devotee will be so much influenced by his glory.

He will think that, 'O really, he's my guru'. Sri Sanatana Goswami has

written in Hari Bhakti Vilasa that guru should test the disciple. And

the disciple should also test the guru, otherwise the guru will fall

down

and the disciples life will be ruined. Those who are kanistha adhikari

and

thinking that, 'We are uttama or madhyama adhikari', should be very

careful about these things. At least they should test, otherwise the

disciples

will make them fall down. All this has been told in epics.

 

tasmad guru prapadyetad jijnasu sreya uttamam

 

Those who are qualified like this are a high class of devotees, and

they are really gurus. You are fortunate. You have come in the line of

Sri

Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Srila Rupa Goswami , Srila Bhaktisiddhanta

Sarasvati

Thakura, Srila Bhakti Vinoda Thakura and in the line of Srila

Bhaktivedanta

Swami Maharaja. You are so much fortunate. His mercy brought me here.

Otherwise how could I have come here?

After that he asked Gopa Kumara, " I want to know what is sadhana and

sadhya? I don't know anything. Devi gave me diksa of that mantra, but

never told me all these things " . And then he [Gopa Kumara] began to

tell his own life history. And at last he said, " Krsna requested

Srimati Radhika that " Somehow you should manage that that brahmana

should come to Me. He is my very dear one. She replaid, " That is why,

in My form as Durga, I gave him initiation. " Who was that Durga? Durga

is a manifestation of Srimati Radharani. There is not so much

difference. Only we say that Durga is Mahamaya, and Srimati Radhika is

Yogamaya, or more than that. But anyhow, in one sense they are one. Not

in all senses, but in one sense. " So I have accepted that brahmana in

my form Durga. So Krsna had requested, because He is anxious for His

dear devotee, " Please arrange that this brahmana should very soon come

to me. He is my sakha " .

Gopa Kumara continued, " and then She sent me: 'O Swarupa, you should go

and bring that brahmin boy'. So I have come just for you, and I have

told

my whole history. I have told you about all the five kinds of love and

affection. I have especially told the glorification of gopi prema, and

how, among all gopi prema, Radha prema is the highest, the Supreme. " I

have

told everything. You are also sakha of Krsna. " The brahmana knew all

these

things, but he had yet achieved no bhava, no prema-nothing was coming.

Then Gopa Kumara put his hand on the head of the brahmana, and at once

he [the brahmana] began to weep loudly, and he saw Krsna and Srimati

Radhika there also. And the he realized all that his guru had told him.

Very

quickly he saw that, " I am going somewhere, flying going in an

aeroplane;

and he saw that he reached Goloka Vrndavana. And there he met all. Why

did I tell this story? Who gave diksa to that brahmana? " Devi, the

manifestation of Srimati Radhika. " She is diksa guru. But she could not

help so much. She only gave diksa, the gopala mantra. At first only

gopala mantra was given in diksa-nothing else. And also harinama.

Now we are so fallen that our gurus, our Guru parampara, like Gopala

Guru, Vakreswara Pandit, Dhyamcandra Goswami, they discovered all these

things from sastra. And then they added brahma gayatri, guru mantra,

guru

gayatri, gaura mantra, gaura gayatri, gopala mantra, kama gayatri all.

Now

everything is given because we are not like them. So she gave the diksa

mantra, but she could not tell all these things which Gopa Kumara told.

So he is siksa guru. Do you know who is superior? The siksa guru.

Srimati

Radhika has sent Gopa Kumara. So you can realize what is the position

of a siksa guru. So my siksa guru is who? Srila Swami Maharaja. My

diksa

guru was the same, in the same category. My diksa guru gave sannyasa,

renounced order, and siksa also, to Srila Swami Maharaja. Both are very

high-class .Both may be siksa guru and diksa guru simultaniously. No

harm. Both

are qualified to be diksa guru and siksa guru at the same time. So you

can

see.

How I am also lucky. How I am fortunate to have a guru and siksa guru

like them. Really, I am very fortunate, and I have so much association

of

very highly learned Srila Prabhupada's associates. I have seen so

many-almost all-of the high class of associates of Srila Prabhupada

Bhakti

Siddhanta Saraswati Thakura.And I have served them all, because I used

to live

with my Gurudeva. I had the chance to serve them. I am especially so

fortunate and lucky that I served Srila Swamiji also. I am so much

fortunate.

That is why am telling that he gave me service from 1947, when there

was no

birth of ISKCON. There were no disciples, nothing. He only wanted to

make a

" League of Devotees. " You know League of Devotees. At first he did like

that. So from the beginning he was so merciful to me. And as you know

he has written in his letters, " our relation is transcendental. " I don't

know what is that, but he has written. I will be lucky when I realize

this.

Now I cannot realize how he thought like that. He wrote me that our

relation is same as my relation was to my Prabhupada. Your relation to

me is the same.

 

" I want to realize this. When I will realize it, my life will be

successful.

You should also know that I have not come here, or anywhere in the

world,

to make disciples. I have come only to follow the orders of my diksa

guru, and especially the order of my siksa guru Srila Bhaktivedanta

Swami

Maharaja, as he ordered me in his last breath. After me he never

talked with anyone. Soon after this conversation he gave up his

external consciousness, and entered the service of his holy master, Sri

Sri Radha and Krsna conjugal.

He wanted, that, " I am begging for forgiveness. You should forgive me.

My godbrothers should forgive me. I have done something in my preaching

that I would not have done. Please try to teach something-all

siddhantas- to

all my disciples. " He told me, in Bengali in my ear, " O, I have

brought so

many monkeys-I could not teach them fully, so please help them. " I

said,

'I give my word. You are my siksa guru. That I will try to help up to my

last breath. I will help all your disciples. So I have not come to make

any disciples, I came only to take the foot-dust of Swamiji- wherever he

went. All these places are very auspicious.

I also came to help the devotees who have been neglected. Only for this

only to help them, but unfortunately, those who began to associate with

me, were refused other's shelter. That is why I was bound to give

shelter

to them. Otherwise, even today, I want that I should help them totally,

so

that they will not fall down. Lacking of this sadhu sanga, and siksa

guru's shelter, all are bound to fall. A man cannot be in same level,

or same

class, always. And if he has not taste, then he must fall down. So I

am very happy. I have strong belief that you will not fall down. Never.

I know that you, are in the real sense, ISKCON-founded by Brahma,

established by Brahma. And in the line, Narada Goswami is second, and

third is Vyasadeva. [devotees] [sBNM] [His name is] not only Vyasa

deva. Krsna Dvaipayana Vedavyasa, who manifested Srimad Bhagavatam and

then Madhavendra Puripada. And then Isvara Puripada, and then Caitanya

Mahaprabhu, Swarupa Damodara, Raya Ramananda-they are really ISKCON

devotees. You should not be a " frog in a well " . Never. You can even be

a frog, but of the ocean. Then you can realize the mercy of Srila

Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja. Otherwise you cannot. If you are a frog

in a well you cannot realize his mercy. If you are coming from well and

looking at the 7 oceans of the world, where Swamiji went-everywhere-and

when he manifested his mercy to all, without any consideration of caste

and creed. To those who came, he told, " You should chant Hare

Krsna-Hare Krishna Hare rishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare-Hare Rama

Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare. "

" Oh, from where have you come? Are you disciple of Srila Bhaktiprajnana

Kesava Maharaja? " " Oh yes, I am his disciple. " And he embraced them. " O

you are so dear to me. " " O from where have you come? From Bhakti

Raksaka Srila Sridhar Maharaja? "

" O yes, come o n, come on. "

" From where you are coming? " " I am coming from Australia. " " Are you a

hippie? " " O Yes, yes. " " Oh come on, come on, " and he embraced them. But

now there are so many walls here and there. " No one should enter. " Our

Caitanya Mahaprabhu was so merciful. Boundlessly merciful.

A dog came to him. " O you are dog of Sivananda Sena? " And he gave some

maha prasada coconut. He told the dog to chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna,

and he went direct to Goloka. So I want that even a dog who is related

to

Swamiji to be my bosom friend. He is my bosom friend. We are all from

one family of Caitanya Mahaprabhu-in Australia, America, England or

Holland, or even in Muslim countries. No harm. Those who think that,

" We are of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu " and are chanting Hare Krsna-all are

in our family.

We should try to give them honor: 'krsneti yasya giri tam

manasadriyeta,'

and if 'diksasti cet pranatibhis ca bhajantam isam,' then offer

obeisances

with the body, and if 'susrusaya bhajana-vijnam ananyam

 

anya-nindadi-sunya-hrdam

ipsita-sanga-labdhya,' not criticizing anyone, always 'nindati sunyam'

and always chanting and remembering, absorbed in high class Vaisnava,

rasika and bhavuka, then you should go and fall down at their lotus

feet, and

try to serve with whole life and soul. He is our prana bandhu, bosom

friend

of our heart. Never Rupa Goswami has told that " he should only be

disciple of my gurudeva. " Has he written? Never. So try to follow all

these things in a correct way.

I am very happy that the whole of Murwillumbah, all devotees have come

here. I am very inspired. You are helping me in this preaching in the

line of Swamiji. All of you are helping. I am not making disciples, I am

making my friends. Making environment that I can tell some Hari-katha

to them

and they can hear. And Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta told' " O you

are my

'vipada uddhara bandhu' " What is meaning? You are my friends who save

me from a great calamity. " Also you are saving me from great calamity.

The

guru never thinks that I'm making so many disciples. These are all

wealth of Krsna. All are very fragrant, very smooth and very sweet

flowers.

Guru takes them and offers them at the lotus feet of Srimati Radhika.

Guru only does this. He never thinks that' " O, all the disciples are my

property. " Never. Otherwise he is a kan-guru [Kangaroo]. A real Guru

thinks that all the disciple are very sweet, fragrant small flowers of

Radha

and Krsna conjugal. If guru gives this flower (the disciple) to the

lotus

feet of Radhika, she takes it and places it in a garland and puts that

garland around the neck of Krsna; as does Caitanya Mahaprabhu and

Nityananda

prabhu. So we should try to break down all the walls, and make the wall

small. Then all can be offered together, and chant and remember

together.

Gaur Premanande!

 

(Report, typing and proof-reading by Alka dasi, Manjulali dasi and

Syama dasa)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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