Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Narasimha, There are three types of reckoning signs: a) The regular or zodiacal method where the signa re reckoned in the regular order b) The Odd/Even differentia where the odd numbered signs counted from Aries are regular and Even are reverse c) The Pada (Foot) where the Vimsapada and Samapada differentia is used and every three signs counted from aries is Vimsapada/Samapada respectively. What I was teaching about the Tatwa is fundamental and basic regular reckoning as in a) above. Yes in the manner you mention, they can be mapped into Navamsa signs. In Kalachakra, the third © type is used. Here, every three /four Nakshatra are alternately Vimsa or Samapada. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Narasimha Rao <pvr <varahamihira > Monday, December 04, 2000 12:21 Rath [sri Guru] Pada Tattva Question to Sanjay > Namaste Frank, > > The tattwas Sanjay is talking about are nothing but the > navamsa rasis corresponding to the padas. In each nakshatra, > the navamsas corresponding to the 4 padas go into agni, > bhoo, vaayu and jala rasis. Padas are nothing but navamsas. > If we realize this, we will not worry about odd/even etc. > > Sanjay, I have a question. When teaching Kalachakra dasa, > Parasara taught finding effective navamsa for apasavya > nakshatras differently. In Aswini, for example, effective > navamsas corresponding to the 4 quarters are Ar, Ta, Ge and > Cn. But, for Uttaraphalguni (an apasavya nakshatra), the 4 > effective navamsas of the 4 quarters are NOT Sg, Cp, Aq and > Pi, but they are Pi, Aq, Cp and Sg (mirror images). For > apasavya nakshatras, the 4 effective navamsas used for the 4 > padas in Kalachakra dasa go from watery to fiery, while they > go from fiery to watery in savya nakshatras. How does this > relate to what you taught? What is the significance of this? > Almost every property of apasavya nakshatras is opposite of > the corresponding property of savya naksahtras. Why? What is > the real meaning of savya and apasavya nakshatras? Why is > everything different between them? > > When you told me to write a book on KCD, I said wasn't > confident. This is the reason. I don't have answers to these > fundamental questions. It will make sense to write a book > only after I *understand* the underlying philosophy. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <srath@v...> wrote: > > Dear Frank, > > Jaya Jagannath > > No the Tatwa order is independant of the nature of the Nakshatra as > > Sama/Vimsa or Samapada/Vimsapada. The first Pada is always Agni and > the last > > is always Jala. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Pranaam Sanjay, > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Narasimha, > There are three types of reckoning signs: > a) The regular or zodiacal method where the signa re reckoned in the regular > order > b) The Odd/Even differentia where the odd numbered signs counted from Aries > are regular and Even are reverse > c) The Pada (Foot) where the Vimsapada and Samapada differentia is used and > every three signs counted from aries is Vimsapada/Samapada respectively. > What I was teaching about the Tatwa is fundamental and basic regular > reckoning as in a) above. Yes in the manner you mention, they can be mapped > into Navamsa signs. In Kalachakra, the third © type is used. Here, every > three /four Nakshatra are alternately Vimsa or Samapada. It's not " three/four " . It's actually always three. First 3 nakshatras are savya, next 3 are apasavya, next 3 are savya and so on. It is interesting to note that this is akin to samapada/ vimsapada classification of rasis. What is the significance of 3 here? Why 3? In Narayana dasa, based on the rasi being samapada/vimsapada, the direction reverses. In Kalachakra dasa, based on the nakshatra being samapada/vimsapada, the dasa order reverses. This is very interesting. But I am still not clear about the philosophical significance of this classification (savya/apasavya). What is the real meaning of all this? Your sishya, Narasimha > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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