remedy for MKS planets

[Guest guest]

hare rama krsna

Dear Swati , Namaskar

 

When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is

for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini

vija is opening chakra to get that light.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru;

email: rafal

Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

 

 

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare

Rama Krsna,

Dear Vistiji,

When a planet is said to be in

marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it

owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens

and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is

the karak of!).

Say for example in venus being

MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are

not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be

strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is

lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to

strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

Also i would want to know how

and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or

the bhava it lords ?

Swati

Om Tat Sat

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal,

The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)

Thanks Swati

Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

hare rama krsna

Dear Swati , Namaskar

 

When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is

for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini

vija is opening chakra to get that light.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru;

email: rafal

Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

 

 

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare

Rama Krsna,

Dear Vistiji,

When a planet is said to be in

marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it

owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens

and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is

the karak of!).

Say for example in venus being

MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are

not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be

strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is

lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to

strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

Also i would want to know how

and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or

the bhava it lords ?

Swati

Om Tat Sat

[Guest guest]

Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Swati,

In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening

Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the

recommendations were not lagna specific.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of healing spaces

Saturday, September 15, 2007

9:17 AM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama

krsna ,

Dear Rafal,

The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall

of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and

varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about

the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .

i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in

7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter

is karak of these houses)

Thanks

Swati

Om Tat sat

 

 

 

 

On 9/15/07, Rafal

Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

hare

rama krsna

Dear Swati , Namaskar

 

When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani

and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening

chakra to get that light.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru;

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

 

 

 

 

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,

 

Dear Vistiji,

When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting

powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the

MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where

it is the karak of!).

Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is

the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of

these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th

house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that

should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra

activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?

Swati

Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji,

this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.

In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099

He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance

swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <rgangaramani

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Swati,

In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening

Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the

recommendations were not lagna specific.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of healing spaces

Saturday, September 15, 2007

9:17 AM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama

krsna ,

Dear Rafal,

The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall

of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and

varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about

the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .

i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in

7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter

is karak of these houses)

Thanks

Swati

Om Tat sat

 

 

 

 

On 9/15/07, Rafal

Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hare

rama krsna

Dear Swati , Namaskar

 

When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani

and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening

chakra to get that light.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru;

email: rafal

Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

 

 

 

 

 

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,

 

Dear Vistiji,

When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting

powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the

MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where

it is the karak of!).

Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is

the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of

these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th

house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that

should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra

activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?

Swati

Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention

sohamsa/message/12687

it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati

On 9/15/07, healing spaces <healingspaces wrote:

Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji,

this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.

In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through !

sohamsa/message/9099

He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance

swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <

rgangaramani

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Swati,

In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening

Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the

recommendations were not lagna specific.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of healing spaces

Saturday, September 15, 2007

9:17 AM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama

krsna ,

Dear Rafal,

The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall

of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and

varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about

the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .

i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in

7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter

is karak of these houses)

Thanks

Swati

Om Tat sat

 

 

 

 

On 9/15/07, Rafal

Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hare

rama krsna

Dear Swati , Namaskar

 

When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani

and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening

chakra to get that light.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru;

email: rafal

Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

 

 

 

 

 

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,

 

Dear Vistiji,

When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting

powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the

MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where

it is the karak of!).

Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is

the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of

these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th

house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that

should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra

activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?

Swati

Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Swati,

You were on a good track.

The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where Marana Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that is done.

For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.

Graha in marana stana will damage>

1. Bhavas ruled by it

2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

3. Bhava where it is placed

Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only

with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha is

placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to

a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in such a graha,

and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

Best wishes

Zoran

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

healing spaces [healingspaces]17. rujan 2007 5:36 ; ahimsaSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planetsOm Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye NamahDear Zoran, It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back that i picked this thread. What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava where MKS happens. For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )3) the chara karaka they signify in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that JUPITER should help ? Swati Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah

On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Ramesh,

I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the different

levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it is clear

that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana would you strengten

Shani, karak of 12th house?

It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be strengthened, what about other things?

There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their different effects, as well as DIFFERENT

remedial measures for each problem

Bese wishes

Zoran

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com

 

On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani15. rujan 2007 18:05

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Swati,

You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house."

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati

 

On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:

Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati

 

 

 

On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Swati,

In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat

 

On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

 

 

 

 

hare rama krsnaDear Swati , NamaskarWhen Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru;email: rafalArticles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

 

 

 

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?Swati Om Tat Sat

[Guest guest]

Dear Zoran and friends,

I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread

of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually

causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and

creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it

has?

Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat

independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in

real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of

astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?

I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in

terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was

just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever

wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

With regards.

OM TAT SAT.

 

 

 

 

sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Swati,

> You were on a good track.

> The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where

Marana

> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest

damage that

> is done.

> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a

marriage than

> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.

> Graha in marana stana will damage>

> 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> 3. Bhava where it is placed

> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while

wearing a

> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will

deal only

> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and

2 are

> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that

simple when

> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha

is

> placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary,

or when

> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will

come to

> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

process, such

> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will

surely fail in

> such a graha,

> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

partially graha

> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> Best wishes

> Zoran

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

>

> healing spaces [healingspaces]

> 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> ; ahimsa

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> Dear Zoran,

>

> It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji

sometime back

> that i picked this thread.

> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

mantras and

> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing

the bhava

> where MKS happens.

> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone

which will

> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this

remedy

> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka

planets

>

> Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the

> 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga

> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )

> 3) the chara karaka they signify

>

> in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with

venus MKS in

> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and

7th house

> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here

since

> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house ,

that

> JUPITER should help ?

>

> Swati

> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah

>

>

>

> On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Ramesh,

> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized

the

> different

> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to?

For venus it

> is clear

> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in

marana sthana

> would you strengten

> Shani, karak of 12th house?

> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be

> strengthened, what about other things?

> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and

their

> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT

> remedial measures for each problem

> Bese wishes

> Zoran

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of Ramesh F.

Gangaramani

> 15. rujan 2007 18:05

>

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor

> strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings

out

> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize

the Karka

> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says " He will

still need a

> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. "

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

>

>

> -

-------

>

>

> On Behalf Of healing spaces

> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Hare rama Krsna

> Dear Rameshji,

> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji

also brings

> this point to attention

> sohamsa/message/12687

> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the

help needed

> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.

> Swati

>

> On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

> Dear Rameshji,

> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana

karaka

> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is

posted in or

> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.

> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what

about the

> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard

that

> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread

i was

> going through !

>

> sohamsa/message/9099

> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th

house is in

> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is

suffering.

> Thanks in advance

> swati

>

>

>

>

>

> On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:

>

> Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is

in MKS and

> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not

lagna

> specific.

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

>

>

> -

-------

>

>

> On Behalf Of healing spaces

> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Hare Rama krsna ,

> Dear Rafal,

> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with

it brings

> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the

ghrini beeja

> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th

house. but

> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .

> i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna,

mercury

> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd

and 5th

> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)

> Thanks

> Swati

> Om Tat sat

>

>

>

> On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> hare rama krsna

> Dear Swati , Namaskar

>

> When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra

(which is

> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and

ghrini vija is

> opening chakra to get that light.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru;

> email: rafal

> Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

>

> Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,

> Dear Vistiji,

> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it

wields death

> inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray

karak or

> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it

owns or

> lordships of where it is the karak of!).

> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo

lagna, it

> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the

karak of

> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is

karak of

> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is

jupiter

> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

> Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini

Surya mantra

> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?

> Swati

> Om Tat Sat

>

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Hare Rama Krshna

 

Namaste Laxmi ji,

 

To put a case in point, I have a solid case of venus(libra) in MKS for someone who is dyeing to get married or get into a relationship, even if just for the physical aspect of it. But she has been very unfortunate in this aspect of her life.

 

any remedies.?

 

Gaurav

 

In a message dated 9/26/2007 12:40:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lakshmikary writes:

Hare Rama KrishnaDear R.C. Srivastava.One definite case is with Venus in Maranakarakastan,Unless there are other mitigating influences to cancel out the effect and unless the person is a renunciate etc,,, I can tell you that this position had affected in a big way every case Ive ever seen of venus in MKS.Remember, we shouldn't take one indication anyway, of an affliction, it should be confirmed in several ways... ie often someone with Venus in MKS will also have a DK in 0'-degree.Or there 7th lord is in the 6th ,etcIm a firm believer in MKS. It is up to us to figure out how much it will affect a person.. a renunciate will be happy to have venus wiped out in his chart as it will push him deeper in his path.best wishesLakshmi"R.C.Srivastava" <swami wrote:

 

Dear Zoran and friends,I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it has?Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.With regards.OM TAT SAT.sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Swati,> You were on a good track.> The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where Marana> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that> is done.> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.> Graha in marana stana will damage>> 1. Bhavas ruled by it> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> 3. Bhava where it is placed> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha is> placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in> such a graha,> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> Best wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> 17. rujan 2007 5:36> ; ahimsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> Dear Zoran,> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back> that i picked this thread.> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava> where MKS happens.> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the> 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> 3) the chara karaka they signify> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that> JUPITER should help ?> > Swati> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Ramesh,> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the> different> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it> is clear> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana> would you strengten> Shani, karak of 12th house?> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be> strengthened, what about other things?> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> remedial measures for each problem> Bese wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> 15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor> strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house."> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings> this point to attention> sohamsa/message/12687> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.> Swati> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:> > Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was> going through !> > sohamsa/message/9099> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering.> Thanks in advance> swati> > > > > > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna> specific.> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama krsna ,> Dear Rafal,> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .> i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)> Thanks> Swati> Om Tat sat> > > > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> > hare rama krsna> Dear Swati , Namaskar> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is> opening chakra to get that light.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Jyotish Guru;> email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,> Dear Vistiji,> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death> inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or> lordships of where it is the karak of!).> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.> Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?> Swati> Om Tat Sat>

 

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Dear Srivastava Ji,

 

I don't know about others, but it seems to have no effect in my

case. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to not affect me

or the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth details in

this forum for the expersts to explore the effect of MKS in my

chart. A couple of people tried and in the end nothing was

conclusive.

 

I am not sure if lot of importance should be given for this

while reading ones chart.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

--- " R.C.Srivastava " <swami wrote:

 

> Dear Zoran and friends,

> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> thread

> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> actually

> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> and

> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact

> it

> has?

> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> parijaat

> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept

> is in

> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> of

> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> proved?

> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> in

> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> This was

> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> ever

> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> With regards.

> OM TAT SAT.

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Swati,

> > You were on a good track.

> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> where

> Marana

> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> greatest

> damage that

> > is done.

> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to

> a

> marriage than

> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> misunderstood.

> > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> while

> wearing a

> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> will

> deal only

> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to

> 1 and

> 2 are

> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> that

> simple when

> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana

> graha

> is

> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> necessary,

> or when

> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> will

> come to

> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> process, such

> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will

>

> surely fail in

> > such a graha,

> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> partially graha

> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> >

> > healing spaces [healingspaces]

> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > ; ahimsa

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> Sanjayji

> sometime back

> > that i picked this thread.

> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

>

> mantras and

> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> clearing

> the bhava

> > where MKS happens.

> > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus

> gemstone

> which will

> > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is

> this

> remedy

> > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana

> karaka

> planets

> >

> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy

> the

> > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga

> > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )

> > 3) the chara karaka they signify

> >

> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna,

> with

> venus MKS in

> > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships

> ) and

> 7th house

> > ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And

> here

> since

> > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th

> house ,

> that

> > JUPITER should help ?

> >

> > Swati

> > Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah

> >

> >

> >

> > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I

> emphasized

> the

> > different

> > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering

> to?

> For venus it

> > is clear

> > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja

> in

> marana sthana

> > would you strengten

> > Shani, karak of 12th house?

> > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja

> should be

> > strengthened, what about other things?

> > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets,

> and

> their

> > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT

> > remedial measures for each problem

> > Bese wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> >

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of Ramesh F.

> Gangaramani

> > 15. rujan 2007 18:05

> >

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> >

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in

> favor

> > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran

> brings

> out

>

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namaste Sharat & Krishna et al,

 

Any thoughts on Jup in MKS being exalted? eventually comes out i guess...

 

 

Gaurav

 

In a message dated 9/26/2007 1:28:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gidoc writes:

 

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Krishna,

Ju in 3H is MKS but it is also aspecting the 9H of dharma and luck. This could be be the single most important position in a chart and probably offset Ju being in MKS.

Will appreciate input by others.

Best

Sharat

 

 

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

sohamsa

Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:17 PM

Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Dear Srivastava Ji,I don't know about others, but it seems to have no effect in mycase. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to not affect meor the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth details inthis forum for the expersts to explore the effect of MKS in mychart. A couple of people tried and in the end nothing wasconclusive.I am not sure if lot of importance should be given for thiswhile reading ones chart.Regards,Krishna--- "R.C.Srivastava" <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact> it > has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept> is in > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > > > > sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where > Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest > damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to> a > marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while > wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will > deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to> 1 and > 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that > simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana> graha > is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary, > or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will > come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the > process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will> > surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing > partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > > > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> > > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji > sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya > > mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing > the bhava> > where MKS happens.> > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus> gemstone > which will> > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is> this > remedy> > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana> karaka > planets> > > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy> the> > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> > 3) the chara karaka they signify> > > > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna,> with > venus MKS in> > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships> ) and > 7th house> > ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And> here > since> > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th> house , > that> > JUPITER should help ?> > > > Swati> > Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > > > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Ramesh,> > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I> emphasized > the> > different> > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering> to? > For venus it> > is clear> > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja> in > marana sthana> > would you strengten> > Shani, karak of 12th house?> > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja> should be> > strengthened, what about other things?> > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets,> and > their> > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> > remedial measures for each problem> > Bese wishes> > Zoran> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. > Gangaramani> > 15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > > > Dear Swati,> > > > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in> favor> > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran> brings > out> === message truncated ===________Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.http://smallbusiness./webhosting

 

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I am not an expert, but in all cases of Jupiter in 3rd that I have

come across, I have seen that they suffer from sensitive stomach(

weak digestive system).Either frequent indigestion or stomach upsets

with most substances.Even small amount of spice gets them into

trouble.

 

I have seen this true , right from newborn babies to grown up

healthy individuals.

 

Is it true for your case too?

 

 

Thanks

Suchitra

 

sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Srivastava Ji,

>

> I don't know about others, but it seems to have no effect in my

> case. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to not affect me

> or the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth details in

> this forum for the expersts to explore the effect of MKS in my

> chart. A couple of people tried and in the end nothing was

> conclusive.

>

> I am not sure if lot of importance should be given for this

> while reading ones chart.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> --- " R.C.Srivastava " <swami wrote:

>

> > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> > thread

> > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> > actually

> > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> > and

> > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact

> > it

> > has?

> > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> > parijaat

> > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept

> > is in

> > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> > of

> > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> > proved?

> > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> > in

> > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> > This was

> > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> > ever

> > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > With regards.

> > OM TAT SAT.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > Dear Swati,

> > > You were on a good track.

> > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> > where

> > Marana

> > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> > greatest

> > damage that

> > > is done.

> > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to

> > a

> > marriage than

> > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> > misunderstood.

> > > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> > while

> > wearing a

> > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> > will

> > deal only

> > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to

> > 1 and

> > 2 are

> > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> > that

> > simple when

> > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana

> > graha

> > is

> > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> > necessary,

> > or when

> > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> > will

> > come to

> > > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> > process, such

> > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will

> >

> > surely fail in

> > > such a graha,

> > > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> > partially graha

> > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Zoran

> > >

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > www.siva-edu.com

> > > jyotish blog at

> > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > healing spaces [healingspaces@]

> > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > > ; ahimsa@

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > > Dear Zoran,

> > >

> > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> > Sanjayji

> > sometime back

> > > that i picked this thread.

> > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> >

> > mantras and

> > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> > clearing

> > the bhava

> > > where MKS happens.

> > > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus

> > gemstone

> > which will

> > > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is

> > this

> > remedy

> > > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana

> > karaka

> > planets

> > >

> > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy

> > the

> > > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga

> > > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )

> > > 3) the chara karaka they signify

> > >

> > > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna,

> > with

> > venus MKS in

> > > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships

> > ) and

> > 7th house

> > > ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And

> > here

> > since

> > > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th

> > house ,

> > that

> > > JUPITER should help ?

> > >

> > > Swati

> > > Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I

> > emphasized

> > the

> > > different

> > > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering

> > to?

> > For venus it

> > > is clear

> > > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja

> > in

> > marana sthana

> > > would you strengten

> > > Shani, karak of 12th house?

> > > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja

> > should be

> > > strengthened, what about other things?

> > > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets,

> > and

> > their

> > > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT

> > > remedial measures for each problem

> > > Bese wishes

> > > Zoran

> > >

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > www.siva-edu.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F.

> > Gangaramani

> > > 15. rujan 2007 18:05

> > >

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Swati,

> > >

> > > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in

> > favor

> > > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran

> > brings

> > out

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

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Hare Rama KrishnaDear Suchitra,Yes, I have found this as well. In addition, several cases need gallbladder removed and a change of diet to live comfortably.With regardsLakshmisuchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath wrote: Hi Krishna, I am not an expert, but in all cases of Jupiter in 3rd that I have come across, I have seen that they suffer from sensitive stomach( weak digestive system).Either frequent indigestion or stomach upsets with most substances.Even small amount of spice gets them into trouble. I

have seen this true , right from newborn babies to grown up healthy individuals. Is it true for your case too? Thanks Suchitra sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Srivastava Ji, > > I don't know about others, but it seems to have no effect in my > case. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to not affect me > or the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth details in > this forum for the expersts to explore the effect of MKS in my > chart. A couple of people tried and in the end nothing was > conclusive. > > I am not sure if lot of importance should be given for this > while reading ones chart. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > --- "R.C.Srivastava" <swami wrote: >

> > Dear Zoran and friends, > > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the > > thread > > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS. > > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster > > actually > > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events > > and > > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact > > it > > has? > > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak > > parijaat > > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept > > is in > > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file > > of > > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have > > proved? > > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it > > in

> > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge > > This was > > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer > > ever > > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA. > > With regards. > > OM TAT SAT. > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > Dear Swati, > > > You were on a good track. > > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house > > where > > Marana > > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the > > greatest > > damage that > > > is done. > > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to > > a

> > marriage than > > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often > > misunderstood. > > > Graha in marana stana will damage> > > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it > > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka > > > 3. Bhava where it is placed > > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. > > while > > wearing a > > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed > > will > > deal only > > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to > > 1 and > > 2 are > > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work. > > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not > > that > > simple when > > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana > >

graha > > is > > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is > > necessary, > > or when > > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain > > will > > come to > > > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the > > process, such > > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will > > > > surely fail in > > > such a graha, > > > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing > > partially graha > > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture. > > > Best wishes > > > Zoran > > > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > > www.siva-edu.com > > > jyotish blog at > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > >

> > > > > > > > > healing spaces [healingspaces@] > > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36 > > > ; ahimsa@ > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt > > Sanjayji > > sometime back > > > that i picked this thread. > > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya > > > > mantras and > > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is > > clearing > > the bhava > > > where MKS

happens. > > > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus > > gemstone > > which will > > > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is > > this > > remedy > > > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana > > karaka > > planets > > > > > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy > > the > > > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga > > > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th ) > > > 3) the chara karaka they signify > > > > > > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, > > with > > venus MKS in > > > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships > > ) and > > 7th house > >

> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And > > here > > since > > > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th > > house , > > that > > > JUPITER should help ? > > > > > > Swati > > > Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I > > emphasized > > the > > > different > > > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering > > to? > > For venus it > > > is clear > > > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja > > in >

> marana sthana > > > would you strengten > > > Shani, karak of 12th house? > > > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja > > should be > > > strengthened, what about other things? > > > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, > > and > > their > > > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT > > > remedial measures for each problem > > > Bese wishes > > > Zoran > > > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > > www.siva-edu.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On

Behalf Of Ramesh F. > > Gangaramani > > > 15. rujan 2007 18:05 > > > > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in > > favor > > > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran > > brings > > out > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ________ _______________ >

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Hare Rama KrishnaDear R.C. Srivastava.One definite case is with Venus in Maranakarakastan,Unless there are other mitigating influences to cancel out the effect and unless the person is a renunciate etc,,, I can tell you that this position had affected in a big way every case Ive ever seen of venus in MKS.Remember, we shouldn't take one indication anyway, of an affliction, it should be confirmed in several ways... ie often someone with Venus in MKS will also have a DK in 0'-degree.Or there 7th lord is in the 6th ,etcIm a firm believer in MKS. It is up to us to figure out how much it will affect a person.. a renunciate will be happy to have venus wiped out in his chart as it will push him deeper in his path.best wishesLakshmi"R.C.Srivastava" <swami wrote: Dear Zoran and friends, I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS. Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it has? Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved? I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can

teach about it in terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA. With regards. OM TAT SAT. sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaya, > Dear Swati, > You were on a good track. > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where Marana > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that > is done. > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood. > Graha in marana stana will damage> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka > 3. Bhava where it is placed >

Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work. > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha is > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in > such a graha, > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha > from lagna only will

hardly give a comprehensive picture. > Best wishes > Zoran > > Zoran Radosavljevic > www.siva-edu.com > jyotish blog at > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > healing spaces [healingspaces] > 17. rujan 2007 5:36 > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah > Dear Zoran, > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back > that i picked this thread. > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava > where MKS

happens. > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th ) > 3) the chara karaka they signify > > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house > ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that > JUPITER should help ? > > Swati > Om Shreem

Mahalakshmayie namah > > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaya, > Dear Ramesh, > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the > different > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it > is clear > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana > would you strengten > Shani, karak of 12th house? > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be > strengthened, what about other things? > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT > remedial measures for each problem > Bese wishes > Zoran > > Zoran Radosavljevic > www.siva-edu.com >

> > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani > 15. rujan 2007 18:05 > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > Dear Swati, > > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out > additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka > of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will

still need a > diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house." > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > ------------------------- ------- > > > On Behalf Of healing spaces > Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets > > > Hare rama Krsna > Dear Rameshji, > Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings > this point to

attention > sohamsa/message/12687 > it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed > to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. > Swati > > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > Dear Rameshji, > this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka > sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or > also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. > In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the > houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that > Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in

the thread i was > going through ! > > sohamsa/message/9099 > He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in > marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. > Thanks in advance > swati > > > > > > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote: > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > Dear Swati, > > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and > visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna > specific. > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > >

------------------------- ------- > > > On Behalf Of healing spaces > Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets > > > Hare Rama krsna , > Dear Rafal, > The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings > downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja > and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but > what about the houses it lords ( 2

and 9) and is the karak of 7 . > i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury > was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th > house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) > Thanks > Swati > Om Tat sat > > > > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > hare rama krsna > Dear Swati , Namaskar > > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is > for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is > opening chakra to get that light. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru; > email: rafal > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com >

> Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, > Dear Vistiji, > When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death > inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or > lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or > lordships of where it is the karak of!). > Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it > is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of > these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of > 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter > that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. > Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra > activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ? > Swati > Om Tat Sat >

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Hare Rama KrishnaDear Zoran,Yes,I agree, on a side note though -In addition to MKS effect , most people with Venus in 6th house have health issues related to Venus and that needs to be addressed as well.So there are actually a number of afflictions with this one placement.ie Venus in the 6th.with regardsLakshmiamar <ahimsa wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Swati, You were on a good track. The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where Marana Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that is done. For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood. Graha in marana stana will damage> 1. Bhavas ruled by it 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka 3. Bhava where it is placed Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are related. In such cases, remedies given will not work. What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha

is placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in such a graha, and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture. Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com healing spaces [healingspaces ]17. rujan 2007 5:36 ; ahimsa.yuSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planetsOm Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye NamahDear Zoran, It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back that i picked this thread. What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava where MKS happens. For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )3) the chara karaka they signify in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that JUPITER should help ? Swati Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa.yu> wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Ramesh, I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the different levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it is clear that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana would you strengten Shani, karak of 12th house? It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be strengthened, what about other things? There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their different effects, as well as DIFFERENT remedial measures for each problem Bese wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani15. rujan 2007 18:05 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house." Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more

thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana

it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Swati , NamaskarWhen Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru;email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comArticles &

Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo,

so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?Swati Om Tat Sat

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Dear Krishna,

Ju in 3H is MKS but it is also aspecting the 9H of dharma and luck. This could be be the single most important position in a chart and probably offset Ju being in MKS.

Will appreciate input by others.

Best

Sharat

 

 

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Krishnamurthy Seetharama

sohamsa

Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:17 PM

Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Dear Srivastava Ji,I don't know about others, but it seems to have no effect in mycase. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to not affect meor the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth details inthis forum for the expersts to explore the effect of MKS in mychart. A couple of people tried and in the end nothing wasconclusive.I am not sure if lot of importance should be given for thiswhile reading ones chart.Regards,Krishna--- "R.C.Srivastava" <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact> it > has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept> is in > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > > > > sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where > Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest > damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to> a > marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while > wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will > deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to> 1 and > 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that > simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana> graha > is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary, > or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will > come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the > process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will> > surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing > partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > > > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> > > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji > sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya > > mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing > the bhava> > where MKS happens.> > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus> gemstone > which will> > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is> this > remedy> > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana> karaka > planets> > > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy> the> > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> > 3) the chara karaka they signify> > > > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna,> with > venus MKS in> > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships> ) and > 7th house> > ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And> here > since> > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th> house , > that> > JUPITER should help ?> > > > Swati> > Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > > > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Ramesh,> > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I> emphasized > the> > different> > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering> to? > For venus it> > is clear> > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja> in > marana sthana> > would you strengten> > Shani, karak of 12th house?> > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja> should be> > strengthened, what about other things?> > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets,> and > their> > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> > remedial measures for each problem> > Bese wishes> > Zoran> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. > Gangaramani> > 15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > > > Dear Swati,> > > > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in> favor> > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran> brings > out> === message truncated ===________Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.http://smallbusiness./webhosting

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Shri Srivastava,

Thank you for asking relevant questions

prompting people to share their findings. Suchitra, Lakshmi and Gaurav have

made interesting contributions related to MKS positions of Venus and Jupiter. I

am however not sure if cases sighted show houses owned being affected! It will

be interesting to get some more feedback.

I have 2 planets in MKS, Saturn and Sun. I

am currently under Saturn MD and some parts this MD were very difficult

especially Sat-Venus and Sat-Sun. Saturn is a strong malefic for Leo lagna and

so is Venus. So I am not sure how much of this can be attributed to MKS. Let me

add that during the period apart from career issues, I also had to stay away

from family for long durations (7H). Such separations continued beyond Sun AD, till

Rahu AD! Barring these forced separations, 7H affairs have been fine.

I haven’t experienced Sun MD, but as

mentioned earlier Sat-Sun was challenging. Sun’s MKS position is in 12H a

dusthana which by itself can be bad!

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of R.C.Srivastava

Wednesday, September 26,

2007 8:43 AM

sohamsa

Re: remedy for

MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Zoran and friends,

I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread

of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually

causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and

creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it

has?

Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat

independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in

real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of

astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?

I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in

terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was

just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever

wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

With regards.

OM TAT SAT.

 

sohamsa ,

" amar " <ahimsa wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Swati,

> You were on a good track.

> The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where

Marana

> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest

damage that

> is done.

> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a

marriage than

> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.

> Graha in marana stana will damage>

> 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> 3. Bhava where it is placed

> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while

wearing a

> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will

deal only

> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and

2 are

> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that

simple when

> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha

is

> placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary,

or when

> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will

come to

> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

process, such

> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will

surely fail in

> such a graha,

> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

partially graha

> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> Best wishes

> Zoran

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

>

> healing spaces [healingspaces]

> 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> ;

ahimsa

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye

Namah

> Dear Zoran,

>

> It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji

sometime back

> that i picked this thread.

> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

mantras and

> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing

the bhava

> where MKS happens.

> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone

which will

> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this

remedy

> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka

planets

>

> Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the

> 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga

> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )

> 3) the chara karaka they signify

>

> in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with

venus MKS in

> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and

7th house

> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here

since

> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house ,

that

> JUPITER should help ?

>

> Swati

> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah

>

>

>

> On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Ramesh,

> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized

the

> different

> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to?

For venus it

> is clear

> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in

marana sthana

> would you strengten

> Shani, karak of 12th house?

> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be

> strengthened, what about other things?

> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and

their

> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT

> remedial measures for each problem

> Bese wishes

> Zoran

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

>

>

>

> On

Behalf Of Ramesh F.

Gangaramani

> 15. rujan 2007 18:05

>

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor

> strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings

out

> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize

the Karka

> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says " He will

still need a

> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. "

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------

-------

>

>

>

On Behalf Of healing spaces

> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Hare rama Krsna

> Dear Rameshji,

> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji

also brings

> this point to attention

> sohamsa/message/12687

> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the

help needed

> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.

> Swati

>

> On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

> Dear Rameshji,

> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana

karaka

> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is

posted in or

> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.

> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what

about the

> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard

that

> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread

i was

> going through !

>

> sohamsa/message/9099

> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th

house is in

> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is

suffering.

> Thanks in advance

> swati

>

>

>

>

>

> On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:

>

> Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is

in MKS and

> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not

lagna

> specific.

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------

-------

>

>

>

On Behalf Of healing spaces

> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Hare Rama krsna ,

> Dear Rafal,

> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with

it brings

> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the

ghrini beeja

> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th

house. but

> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .

> i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna,

mercury

> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd

and 5th

> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)

> Thanks

> Swati

> Om Tat sat

>

>

>

> On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> hare rama krsna

> Dear Swati , Namaskar

>

> When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra

(which is

> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and

ghrini vija is

> opening chakra to get that light.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru;

> email: rafal

> Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

>

> Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,

> Dear Vistiji,

> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it

wields death

> inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray

karak or

> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it

owns or

> lordships of where it is the karak of!).

> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo

lagna, it

> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the

karak of

> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is

karak of

> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is

jupiter

> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

> Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini

Surya mantra

> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?

> Swati

> Om Tat Sat

>

[Guest guest]

!Om Gurave Namah!Dear friends and Gurus, Namaskar! MKS discussion has always fascinated me. Since I have never heard one single opinion. As in other areas of Jyotish one single planet cannot be taken in isolation, similarly MKS placement of a planet cannot be taken in isolation. Since all we are saying is that a given planet is in MKS from Lagna. However, there are other points of references (from Moon, AL...) to look at in the chart. So for a complete effect of MKS placement from all other aspects should be taken before arriving at a conclusion. Moreover, the state (exalted, debilitated...) of the planet is very important while analyzing the effects of MKS. A good study is the chart of Shri Sai Baba. Further, the MKS placement of a planet also brings positive results. such as Ju in 3rd house aspecting the 9th house makes the person very lucky. Also

ownership of inaspicious houses of MKS planet can also bring favorable results.There are many such combinations that may increase or decrease the favorable effect of the MKS placement. In my limited experience MKS placement has yielded correct results with the corresponding ND. Gurus can correct me if I have mis-stated something. For those interested, Visti ji has a mp3 lesson on this topic and I believe in his lesson he deals with some of the questions discussed in this thread. Warm Regards,Pranav "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <rgangaramani wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Shri Srivastava, Thank you for asking relevant questions prompting people to share their findings. Suchitra, Lakshmi and Gaurav have made interesting

contributions related to MKS positions of Venus and Jupiter. I am however not sure if cases sighted show houses owned being affected! It will be interesting to get some more feedback. I have 2 planets in MKS, Saturn and Sun. I am currently under Saturn MD and some parts this MD were very difficult especially Sat-Venus and Sat-Sun. Saturn is a strong malefic for Leo lagna and so is Venus. So I am not sure how much of this can be attributed to MKS. Let me add that during the period apart from career issues, I also had to stay away from family for long durations (7H). Such separations continued beyond Sun AD, till Rahu AD! Barring these forced separations, 7H affairs have been fine. I

haven’t experienced Sun MD, but as mentioned earlier Sat-Sun was challenging. Sun’s MKS position is in 12H a dusthana which by itself can be bad! Regards Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of R.C.SrivastavaWednesday, September 26, 2007 8:43 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: remedy for MKS planets Dear Zoran and friends,I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

actually causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it has?Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.With regards.OM TAT SAT.sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Swati,> You were on a good track.> The main point is that

people stress the damage to a house where Marana> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that> is done.> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.> Graha in marana stana will damage>> 1. Bhavas ruled by it> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> 3. Bhava where it is placed> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha is> placed in

Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in> such a graha,> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> Best wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> 17. rujan 2007 5:36> ; ahimsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS

planets> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> Dear Zoran,> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back> that i picked this thread.> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava> where MKS happens.> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the> 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> 3) the chara karaka they signify> > in my understanding when i took

example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that> JUPITER should help ?> > Swati> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Ramesh,> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the> different> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it> is clear> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana> would you strengten> Shani, karak of 12th house?> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be> strengthened, what about

other things?> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> remedial measures for each problem> Bese wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> 15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor>

strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house."> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets>

> > Hare rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings> this point to attention> sohamsa/message/12687> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.> Swati> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:> > Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it

is in this regard that> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was> going through !> > sohamsa/message/9099> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering.> Thanks in advance> swati> > > > > > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna> specific.> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > >

--------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama krsna ,> Dear Rafal,> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .> i remember one mail

by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)> Thanks> Swati> Om Tat sat> > > > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> > hare rama krsna> Dear Swati , Namaskar> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is> opening chakra to get that light.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Jyotish Guru;> email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,> Dear Vistiji,> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death>

inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or> lordships of where it is the karak of!).> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.> Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?> Swati> Om Tat Sat>

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Dear Srivastava,

Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a person

will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of Mahatma Gandhi.Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each graha. There are

aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana effects, or

births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which can block Marana

sthana planets etc.

2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There are different rules

to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or karaka.

3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

2. It can damage 7th house lordship

3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

Where it will hit.

1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra is exalted in 7th house as 9th lord,

so he can come out of.

7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma karmaadhipati Yoga with AK is there.

With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his attitude towards women,

and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as came out of professional enemity and work

problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions under terrible pressure, and the circumstances

when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a bad character women. These is also to be

seen by 7th lord placement.

Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is gone.

The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha Shani, the only remedy is Kamala. He is

now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and stable relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru dasha is to bring marriage.

 

This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I can cover it on

the blog.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

[amar]

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of R.C.Srivastava26. rujan 2007 14:43sohamsa Subject: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran and friends,I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it has?Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.With regards.OM TAT SAT.sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Swati,> You were on a good track.> The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where Marana> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that> is done.> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.> Graha in marana stana will damage>> 1. Bhavas ruled by it> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> 3. Bhava where it is placed> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha is> placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in> such a graha,> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> Best wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> 17. rujan 2007 5:36> ; ahimsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> Dear Zoran,> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back> that i picked this thread.> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava> where MKS happens.> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the> 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> 3) the chara karaka they signify> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that> JUPITER should help ?> > Swati> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Ramesh,> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the> different> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it> is clear> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana> would you strengten> Shani, karak of 12th house?> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be> strengthened, what about other things?> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> remedial measures for each problem> Bese wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> 15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor> strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house."> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings> this point to attention> sohamsa/message/12687> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.> Swati> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:> > Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was> going through !> > sohamsa/message/9099> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering.> Thanks in advance> swati> > > > > > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna> specific.> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama krsna ,> Dear Rafal,> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .> i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)> Thanks> Swati> Om Tat sat> > > > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> > hare rama krsna> Dear Swati , Namaskar> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is> opening chakra to get that light.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Jyotish Guru;> email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,> Dear Vistiji,> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death> inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or> lordships of where it is the karak of!).> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.> Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?> Swati> Om Tat Sat>

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Hare Rama KrishnaDear GuravThe whole chart would have to be examined in entirety to come to a conclusion and a solution.I have a slight different view and that is that is:first it is understood that our sufferings are due to our own bad karma. So first we (the client/patient) needs to accept that fact, then accept the fact that we need to suffer for it or do remedial measures to help burn the bad karmas and create some good karma.I do not think the solution is thinking "oh i will wear a ring and try and avoid some suffering that is due me."Better to do some remedial measures, alter our behaviors and then go for back up help if the suffering is intense.Check the AK and soul level problems first,1)Best to go the Supreme being and pray(chant mantras) for forgiveness and repentance.I pray to Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva- others will have their own lords.After one has done those things then we can look for a gem stone, IF they

can afford... 2) everyone can afford to fast ,3) and do other remedial measures of which there are many, depending on the planet delivering the suffering, ..Hope you understand were Im coming from.Send your friends chart and we can ascertain the karmas and the solutions.Some karmas are deep(involve AK planet etc) and some are transitory.Best wishesLakshmiyobrevol wrote: Hare Rama Krshna Namaste Laxmi ji,

To put a case in point, I have a solid case of venus(libra) in MKS for someone who is dyeing to get married or get into a relationship, even if just for the physical aspect of it. But she has been very unfortunate in this aspect of her life. any remedies.? Gaurav In a message dated 9/26/2007 12:40:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lakshmikary writes: Hare Rama KrishnaDear R.C. Srivastava.One definite case is with Venus in Maranakarakastan,Unless there are other mitigating influences to cancel out the effect and unless the person is a renunciate etc,,, I can tell you that this position had affected in a big way every case Ive ever seen of venus in MKS.Remember, we shouldn't take one

indication anyway, of an affliction, it should be confirmed in several ways... ie often someone with Venus in MKS will also have a DK in 0'-degree.Or there 7th lord is in the 6th ,etcIm a firm believer in MKS. It is up to us to figure out how much it will affect a person.. a renunciate will be happy to have venus wiped out in his chart as it will push him deeper in his path.best wishesLakshmi"R.C.Srivastava" <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Zoran and friends,I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and creating awareness to

possible future damage ,What real impact it has?Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.With regards.OM TAT SAT.sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Swati,> You were on a good track.> The main point is that people stress the damage to a

house where Marana> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that> is done.> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.> Graha in marana stana will damage>> 1. Bhavas ruled by it> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> 3. Bhava where it is placed> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha

is> placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in> such a graha,> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> Best wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> 17. rujan 2007 5:36> ; ahimsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> Dear Zoran,> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back> that i picked this thread.> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava> where MKS happens.> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the> 1) bhavas

lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> 3) the chara karaka they signify> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that> JUPITER should help ?> > Swati> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Ramesh,> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the> different> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it> is

clear> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana> would you strengten> Shani, karak of 12th house?> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be> strengthened, what about other things?> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> remedial measures for each problem> Bese wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> Sent:

15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor> strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house."> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings> this point to attention> sohamsa/message/12687> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.> Swati> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:> > Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was> going

through !> > sohamsa/message/9099> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering.> Thanks in advance> swati> > > > > > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna> specific.> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama krsna ,> Dear Rafal,> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .> i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)> Thanks> Swati> Om Tat sat> > > > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> > hare rama krsna> Dear Swati , Namaskar> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is> opening chakra to get that light.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Jyotish Guru;> email: rafal Articles &

Consultations: http://rohinaa.com> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,> Dear Vistiji,> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death> inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or> lordships of where it is the karak of!).> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.> Also i would want to know how and what does

the ghrini Surya mantra> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?> Swati> Om Tat Sat> See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namasthe Krishnamurthy Garu,

 

Also remember the effects of MKS will be reduced, if

you lived in a foreign country. During Guru's dasa

where you in a foreign country. See the kendras from

the 12th house, and see the results. I do not have

your data.

 

Srinivasa

 

--- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

wrote:

 

> Dear Srivastava Ji,

>

> I don't know about others, but it seems to have no

> effect in my

> case. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to

> not affect me

> or the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth

> details in

> this forum for the expersts to explore the effect of

> MKS in my

> chart. A couple of people tried and in the end

> nothing was

> conclusive.

>

> I am not sure if lot of importance should be given

> for this

> while reading ones chart.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> --- " R.C.Srivastava " <swami wrote:

>

> > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable

> discussion on the

> > thread

> > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from

> GURUS.

> > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This

> Monster

> > actually

> > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying

> past events

> > and

> > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What

> real impact

> > it

> > has?

> > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept

> of Jatak

> > parijaat

> > independently to assess its damage and By the

> way,This concept

> > is in

> > real circulation since around year 2000 among

> rank and file

> > of

> > astrologers, How effective are the remedies

> offered have

> > proved?

> > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can

> teach about it

> > in

> > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my

> knowledge

> > This was

> > just a concept written in book and no practicing

> astrologer

> > ever

> > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > With regards.

> > OM TAT SAT.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , " amar "

> <ahimsa wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > Dear Swati,

> > > You were on a good track.

> > > The main point is that people stress the damage

> to a house

> > where

> > Marana

> > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not

> always the

> > greatest

> > damage that

> > > is done.

> > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create

> more damage to

> > a

> > marriage than

> > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is

> often

> > misunderstood.

> > > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the

> problem under 3.

> > while

> > wearing a

> > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha

> is placed

> > will

> > deal only

> > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems

> pertaining to

> > 1 and

> > 2 are

> > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not

> work.

> > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The

> issue is not

> > that

> > simple when

> > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if

> Marana sthana

> > graha

> > is

> > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata

> worship is

> > necessary,

> > or when

> > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a

> terrible pain

> > will

> > come to

> > > a person, and there is a little a person can do.

> If in the

> > process, such

> > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the

> intelligence will

> >

> > surely fail in

> > > such a graha,

> > > and a person will not perform remedial measure.

> So, seing

> > partially graha

> > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive

> picture.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Zoran

> > >

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > www.siva-edu.com

> > > jyotish blog at

> > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > healing spaces

> [healingspaces]

> > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > > ; ahimsa

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS

> planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > > Dear Zoran,

> > >

> > > It is from your mail last month and one mail

> of Pt

> > Sanjayji

> > sometime back

> > > that i picked this thread.

> > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the

> ghrini Aditya

> >

> > mantras and

> > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens

> ,it is

> > clearing

> > the bhava

> > > where MKS happens.

> > > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear

> Venus

> > gemstone

> > which will

> > > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN

> MKS. Is

> > this

> > remedy

> > > sufficient to help lordships and other

> karaktwas of Marana

> > karaka

> > planets

> > >

> > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen

> and remedy

> > the

> > > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in

> particular varga

> > > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd

> and 10th )

> > > 3) the chara karaka they signify

> > >

> > > in my understanding when i took example for

> virgo lagna,

> > with

> > venus MKS in

> > > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house (

> by lordships

> > ) and

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

DearZoran,

Good sharing and hints for learning.I get daily digest so did not

get chart under reference.Kindly post data of native used as example.

It will be rewarding to read your blog,but what is URL?

I am looking forward to 1.steps involved in proper examination of MKS

2. What are cancillationcondition for each planet MKS placement.

3.Where and whateffects are hit by aplanet in MKS.

4.How remedies are selected and what are determinanats todecide

effective remedies.

5. Timing when evils of MKS appear.

with regards.

Thanks once again,

OM TAT SAT.

sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

>

> Dear Srivastava,

> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a

person

> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of

Mahatma Gandhi.

> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each graha.

There are

> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana

effects, or

> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which can

block

> Marana

> sthana planets etc.

> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There are

different

> rules

> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or

karaka.

> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> Where it will hit.

> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra is

exalted in

> 7th house as 9th lord,

> so he can come out of.

> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma karmaadhipati

Yoga with AK

> is there.

> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his

attitude

> towards women,

> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as came

out of

> professional enemity and work

> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions under

terrible

> pressure, and the circumstances

> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a bad

character

> women. These is also to be

> seen by 7th lord placement.

> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is gone.

> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha

Shani, the

> only remedy is Kamala. He is

> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and

stable

> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru dasha is

to bring

> marriage.

>

> This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I can

cover it

> on

> the blog.

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

> [amar]

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]On

Behalf Of

> R.C.Srivastava

> 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> sohamsa

> Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran and friends,

> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread

> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually

> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and

> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it

> has?

> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat

> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept

is in

> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of

> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?

> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in

> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This

was

> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever

> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> With regards.

> OM TAT SAT.

>

> sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Swati,

> > You were on a good track.

> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

where

> Marana

> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

greatest

> damage that

> > is done.

> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a

> marriage than

> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

misunderstood.

> > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

while

> wearing a

> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will

> deal only

> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1

and

> 2 are

> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that

> simple when

> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana

graha

> is

> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

necessary,

> or when

> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will

> come to

> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> process, such

> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will

> surely fail in

> > such a graha,

> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> partially graha

> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> >

> > healing spaces [healingspaces@]

> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > ; ahimsa@

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji

> sometime back

> > that i picked this thread.

> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> mantras and

> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing

> the bhava

> > where MKS happens.

> > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone

> which will

> > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this

> remedy

> > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana

karaka

> planets

> >

> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the

> > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga

> > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )

> > 3) the chara karaka they signify

> >

> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with

> venus MKS in

> > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships )

and

> 7th house

> > ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And

here

> since

> > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house ,

> that

> > JUPITER should help ?

> >

> > Swati

> > Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah

> >

> >

> >

> > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized

> the

> > different

> > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to?

> For venus it

> > is clear

> > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in

> marana sthana

> > would you strengten

> > Shani, karak of 12th house?

> > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be

> > strengthened, what about other things?

> > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and

> their

> > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT

> > remedial measures for each problem

> > Bese wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> >

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of Ramesh F.

> Gangaramani

> > 15. rujan 2007 18:05

> >

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> >

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor

> > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran

brings

> out

> > additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to

emphasize

> the Karka

> > of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says " He will

> still need a

> > diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. "

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------

> -------

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of healing

spaces

> > Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Hare rama Krsna

> > Dear Rameshji,

> > Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji

> also brings

> > this point to attention

> > sohamsa/message/12687

> > it was for this reason that i raised the question for the

> help needed

> > to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural

significations.

> > Swati

> >

> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Dear Rameshji,

> > this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana

> karaka

> > sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is

> posted in or

> > also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.

> > In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what

> about the

> > houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard

> that

> > Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the

thread

> i was

> > going through !

> >

> > sohamsa/message/9099

> > He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th

> house is in

> > marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is

> suffering.

> > Thanks in advance

> > swati

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani@ > wrote:

> >

> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is

> in MKS and

> > visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not

> lagna

> > specific.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------

> -------

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of healing

spaces

> > Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama krsna ,

> > Dear Rafal,

> > The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with

> it brings

> > downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the

> ghrini beeja

> > and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th

> house. but

> > what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of

7 .

> > i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna,

> mercury

> > was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the

2nd

> and 5th

> > house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)

> > Thanks

> > Swati

> > Om Tat sat

> >

> >

> >

> > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > hare rama krsna

> > Dear Swati , Namaskar

> >

> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra

> (which is

> > for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and

> ghrini vija is

> > opening chakra to get that light.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > SJC Jyotish Guru;

> > email: rafal@

> > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

> >

> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,

> > Dear Vistiji,

> > When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it

> wields death

> > inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray

> karak or

> > lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it

> owns or

> > lordships of where it is the karak of!).

> > Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo

> lagna, it

> > is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the

> karak of

> > these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus

is

> karak of

> > 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is

> jupiter

> > that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

> > Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini

> Surya mantra

> > activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?

> > Swati

> > Om Tat Sat

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Zoran,

 

Here are my birth details:

 

DOB: 7-Sep-1958

TOB: 6:15 am

POB: Bangalore

 

Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- amar <ahimsa wrote:

 

> Dear Srivastava,

> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a

> person

> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of

> Mahatma Gandhi.

> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each

> graha. There are

> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana

> effects, or

> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which

> can block

> Marana

> sthana planets etc.

> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There

> are different

> rules

> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or

> karaka.

> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> Where it will hit.

> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra

> is exalted in

> 7th house as 9th lord,

> so he can come out of.

> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> is there.

> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his

> attitude

> towards women,

> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as

> came out of

> professional enemity and work

> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions

> under terrible

> pressure, and the circumstances

> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a

> bad character

> women. These is also to be

> seen by 7th lord placement.

> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is

> gone.

> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha

> Shani, the

> only remedy is Kamala. He is

> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and

> stable

> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru

> dasha is to bring

> marriage.

>

> This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I

> can cover it

> on

> the blog.

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

> [amar]

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa

> [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of

> R.C.Srivastava

> 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> sohamsa

> Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran and friends,

> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> thread

> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> actually

> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> and

> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> impact it

> has?

> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> parijaat

> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> concept is in

> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> of

> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> proved?

> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> in

> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> This was

> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> ever

> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> With regards.

> OM TAT SAT.

>

> sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Swati,

> > You were on a good track.

> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> where

> Marana

> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> greatest

> damage that

> > is done.

> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> to a

> marriage than

> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> misunderstood.

> > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> while

> wearing a

> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> will

> deal only

> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining

> to 1 and

> 2 are

> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> that

> simple when

> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> sthana graha

> is

> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> necessary,

> or when

> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> will

> come to

> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> process, such

> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence

> will

> surely fail in

> > such a graha,

> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> partially graha

> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> >

> > healing spaces [healingspaces]

> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > ; ahimsa

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> Sanjayji

> sometime back

> > that i picked this thread.

> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> mantras and

> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> clearing

> the bhava

> > where MKS happens.

>

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Dear Srinivasa Garu,

 

I lived aborad for about 3-4 years only during Jupiter MD. Rest

of the period I was in india.

 

My birth details are posted in response to Zoran's mail. Please

take a look.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Srinivasa Sunchu <padmanu wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namasthe Krishnamurthy Garu,

>

> Also remember the effects of MKS will be reduced, if

> you lived in a foreign country. During Guru's dasa

> where you in a foreign country. See the kendras from

> the 12th house, and see the results. I do not have

> your data.

>

> Srinivasa

>

> --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Srivastava Ji,

> >

> > I don't know about others, but it seems to have no

> > effect in my

> > case. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to

> > not affect me

> > or the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth

> > details in

> > this forum for the expersts to explore the effect of

> > MKS in my

> > chart. A couple of people tried and in the end

> > nothing was

> > conclusive.

> >

> > I am not sure if lot of importance should be given

> > for this

> > while reading ones chart.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> > --- " R.C.Srivastava " <swami wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable

> > discussion on the

> > > thread

> > > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from

> > GURUS.

> > > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This

> > Monster

> > > actually

> > > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying

> > past events

> > > and

> > > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What

> > real impact

> > > it

> > > has?

> > > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept

> > of Jatak

> > > parijaat

> > > independently to assess its damage and By the

> > way,This concept

> > > is in

> > > real circulation since around year 2000 among

> > rank and file

> > > of

> > > astrologers, How effective are the remedies

> > offered have

> > > proved?

> > > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can

> > teach about it

> > > in

> > > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my

> > knowledge

> > > This was

> > > just a concept written in book and no practicing

> > astrologer

> > > ever

> > > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > > With regards.

> > > OM TAT SAT.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " amar "

> > <ahimsa wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > Dear Swati,

> > > > You were on a good track.

> > > > The main point is that people stress the damage

> > to a house

> > > where

> > > Marana

> > > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not

> > always the

> > > greatest

> > > damage that

> > > > is done.

> > > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create

> > more damage to

> > > a

> > > marriage than

> > > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is

> > often

> > > misunderstood.

> > > > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > > > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the

> > problem under 3.

> > > while

> > > wearing a

> > > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha

> > is placed

> > > will

> > > deal only

> > > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems

> > pertaining to

> > > 1 and

> > > 2 are

> > > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not

> > work.

> > > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The

> > issue is not

> > > that

> > > simple when

> > > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if

> > Marana sthana

> > > graha

> > > is

> > > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata

> > worship is

> > > necessary,

> > > or when

> > > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a

> > terrible pain

> > > will

> > > come to

> > > > a person, and there is a little a person can do.

> > If in the

> > > process, such

> > > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the

> > intelligence will

> > >

> > > surely fail in

> > > > such a graha,

> > > > and a person will not perform remedial measure.

> > So, seing

> > > partially graha

> > > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive

> > picture.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Zoran

> > > >

> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > www.siva-edu.com

> > > > jyotish blog at

> > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > healing spaces

> > [healingspaces]

> > > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > > > ; ahimsa

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS

> > planets

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > > > Dear Zoran,

> > > >

> > > > It is from your mail last month and one mail

> > of Pt

> > > Sanjayji

> > > sometime back

> > > > that i picked this thread.

> > > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the

> > ghrini Aditya

> > >

> > > mantras and

> > > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens

> > ,it is

> > > clearing

> > > the bhava

> > > > where MKS happens.

> > > > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear

> > Venus

> > > gemstone

> > > which will

> > > > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN

> > MKS. Is

> > > this

> > > remedy

> > > > sufficient to help lordships and other

> > karaktwas of Marana

> > > karaka

> > > planets

> > > >

> > > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen

>

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Hi Suchitra,

 

I do have some stomach related problems. I wouldn't call it very

sensitive. I thought this is due to Sun in Leo. How does Jupiter

in the 3rd (and in Libra in my case) affect stomach? I don't

think this is anything to do with MKS position. Or, am I wrong?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath wrote:

 

> Hi Krishna,

>

> I am not an expert, but in all cases of Jupiter in 3rd that I

> have

> come across, I have seen that they suffer from sensitive

> stomach(

> weak digestive system).Either frequent indigestion or stomach

> upsets

> with most substances.Even small amount of spice gets them into

>

> trouble.

>

> I have seen this true , right from newborn babies to grown up

> healthy individuals.

>

> Is it true for your case too?

>

>

> Thanks

> Suchitra

>

> sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Srivastava Ji,

> >

> > I don't know about others, but it seems to have no effect in

> my

> > case. I have Jupiter in the 3rd house and seem to not affect

> me

> > or the houses that it owns. In fact, I gave my birth details

> in

> > this forum for the expersts to explore the effect of MKS in

> my

> > chart. A couple of people tried and in the end nothing was

> > conclusive.

> >

> > I am not sure if lot of importance should be given for this

> > while reading ones chart.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> > --- " R.C.Srivastava " <swami wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on

> the

> > > thread

> > > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> > > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> > > actually

> > > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past

> events

> > > and

> > > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> impact

> > > it

> > > has?

> > > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> > > parijaat

> > > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> concept

> > > is in

> > > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and

> file

> > > of

> > > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> > > proved?

> > > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about

> it

> > > in

> > > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> > > This was

> > > just a concept written in book and no practicing

> astrologer

> > > ever

> > > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > > With regards.

> > > OM TAT SAT.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > Dear Swati,

> > > > You were on a good track.

> > > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a

> house

> > > where

> > > Marana

> > > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> > > greatest

> > > damage that

> > > > is done.

> > > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> to

> > > a

> > > marriage than

> > > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> > > misunderstood.

> > > > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > > > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under

> 3.

> > > while

> > > wearing a

> > > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is

> placed

> > > will

> > > deal only

> > > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems

> pertaining to

> > > 1 and

> > > 2 are

> > > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is

> not

> > > that

> > > simple when

> > > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> sthana

> > > graha

> > > is

> > > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> > > necessary,

> > > or when

> > > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible

> pain

> > > will

> > > come to

> > > > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in

> the

> > > process, such

> > > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence

> will

> > >

> > > surely fail in

> > > > such a graha,

> > > > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So,

> seing

> > > partially graha

> > > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive

> picture.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Zoran

> > > >

> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > www.siva-edu.com

> > > > jyotish blog at

> > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces@]

> > > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > > > ; ahimsa@

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > > > Dear Zoran,

> > > >

> > > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> > > Sanjayji

> > > sometime back

> > > > that i picked this thread.

> > > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini

> Aditya

> > >

> > > mantras and

> > > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> > > clearing

> > > the bhava

> > > > where MKS happens.

> > > > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus

> > > gemstone

> > > which will

> > > > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS.

> Is

> > > this

> > > remedy

> > > > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of

> Marana

> > > karaka

> > > planets

> > > >

> > > > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and

> remedy

> > > the

> > > > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular

> varga

> > > > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th

> )

> > > > 3) the chara karaka they signify

> > > >

>

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Dear Zoran and other Jyotishas i do feel that MKS has definitely some importance as i do have my Lagna lord and yogkaraka venus in MKS , along with the malefic Mars for virgo lagna also in MKS. With so many bhavesha lords being in MKS , i really wonder how each one is functioning and how would i come out of these situations. i do feel that in my current Md of mercury , i feel that its MKS placement has shown its results vis a vis it being the lagna lord and 10th house. And surely has venus MKS played its part . But i really dont know what would Mars being MKS in 7th actually do for me as it sits with already MKS mercury . But also i have heard this rule that when there is another planet in 7th house , than Mercury would not get MKS in 7th house. Also i think that mercury could be considered MKS in 7th house till a certain age of education when he does not want to involve itself in relationships, And only after a certain age when a person joins the work field does it get MKS in 4th.

Would like the views of the experienced ones as how MKS planets could crumble me and i do forsee that exalted jupiter though badhakesh could be a remedy to my troubles . hope to get ur views providing my data

date 15 april 1979 place jaipur city time 18:05Swati Om tat sat On 9/27/07, amar <

ahimsa wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Srivastava,

Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a person

will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of Mahatma Gandhi.Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each graha. There are

aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana effects, or

births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which can block Marana

sthana planets etc.

2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There are different rules

to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or karaka.

3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

2. It can damage 7th house lordship

3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

Where it will hit.

1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra is exalted in 7th house as 9th lord,

so he can come out of.

7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma karmaadhipati Yoga with AK is there.

With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his attitude towards women,

and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as came out of professional enemity and work

problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions under terrible pressure, and the circumstances

when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a bad character women. These is also to be

seen by 7th lord placement.

Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is gone.

The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha Shani, the only remedy is Kamala. He is

now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and stable relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru dasha is to bring marriage.

 

This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I can cover it on

the blog.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

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sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of R.C.Srivastava26. rujan 2007 14:43sohamsa Subject: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran and friends,I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it has?Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.With regards.OM TAT SAT.sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Swati,> You were on a good track.> The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where Marana> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that> is done.> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.> Graha in marana stana will damage>> 1. Bhavas ruled by it> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> 3. Bhava where it is placed> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha is> placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in> such a graha,> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> Best wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> 17. rujan 2007 5:36> ; ahimsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> Dear Zoran,> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back> that i picked this thread.> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava> where MKS happens.> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the> 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> 3) the chara karaka they signify> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that> JUPITER should help ?> > Swati> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Ramesh,> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the> different> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it> is clear> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana> would you strengten> Shani, karak of 12th house?> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be> strengthened, what about other things?> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> remedial measures for each problem> Bese wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> 15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor> strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says " He will still need a> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. " > > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings> this point to attention> sohamsa/message/12687> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.> Swati> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:> > Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was> going through !> > sohamsa/message/9099> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering.> Thanks in advance> swati> > > > > > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna> specific.> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama krsna ,> Dear Rafal,> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .> i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)> Thanks> Swati> Om Tat sat> > > > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> > hare rama krsna> Dear Swati , Namaskar> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is> opening chakra to get that light.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Jyotish Guru;> email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,> Dear Vistiji,> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death> inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or> lordships of where it is the karak of!).> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.> Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?> Swati> Om Tat Sat>