Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, Thanks for the clarification. My knowledge of mantras is that of a lay person, I never study them systematically, like you do, so your guidance matters a great deal. I have another tiny doubt... Is there any specific reason for choosing the mantra as " om namo bhagavate maharaajaya " instead of " om namo bhagavate saarvabhoumaaya " , because astrologically and otherwise too, i think Sri Rama was an emperor. Ofcourse, my question is based on the popular haarathi hymn mangalam kosalendraaya mahaneeya guNaatmane chakravarti tanoojaaya saarvabhoumaaya mangalam Let me guess..is it because chakravarthi yogas are a part of raja yogas? Regards, Lakshmi > Dear Visti and Lakshmi, > > Guruji confirmed that Vishvamitra's mantra for Rama is valid as the Rishi > used Rama's name specifically in the mantra (Om Namo Bhagavate Ramaya > Mahapurushaya Namah) and that Om Namo Bhagavate Mahapurushaya is more apt > for Shiva following his talk at the conference as both of you correctly > pointed out. For Rama, the alternative 12 akshara mantras apart from the Om > namo bhagavate ramachandraya and Om namo bhagavate ramabhadraya, are Om namo > bhagavate maharajaya and Om namo bhagavate purushottamaya (thanks Lakshmi!). > The last two mantras Lakshmi will have the Sun and Mahapurush/Raja Yoga > reference. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani > > > > > _____ > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Monday, February 20, 2006 5:27 PM > sohamsa > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar > > I thought it was a mantra for Shiva!!!! Infact i remember Sanjayji saying > that often the name: Mahapurusha is associated with Rama, but is actually > for Shiva, as he is the embodiment of all the mahapurusha yogas, as all the > five tattvas are perfect in him. This is naturally manifested in the form of > his five heads - but that part we know already. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Sarbani Sarkar > 20 February 2006 07:07 > sohamsa > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Swee and others, > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Mahapurushaya: Is it not one of the mantras for Rama? > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > _____ > > Sourav [souravc108] > Monday, February 20, 2006 9:53 AM > sohamsa > Re: Varaha Mantra > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Swee-ji, > > Namaskar. Sorry I made a mistake earlier. The > Varaha Mantra that I read in Robert-ji's book is Om Namo Bhagavate > Mahaapurushaaya. Akupaaraya is the Kurma Avatara Mantra (Shani) as > Sarbani-ji rightly pointed. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ======================================================== > sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Swee-ji, > > > > namaskar. But then it will not be > > dwadasakshari but becomes trayodasakshari. I think Sanjay-ji gave Varaha > > Avatara Mantra in his VRA as Om Namo Bhagavate Akupaaraaya > > (dwadasakshari). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > sohamsa , " Swee Chan " swee@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:05 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't it be Om Namo Bhagavate Varahadevaya? The word Sanjay ji > > uses is > > > shUkara (the Boar/Sri Varaha). > > > > > > > > > > > > Garsh!! Thank God it's not a " pig-ment " of my imagination, well worth > > > waiting 12 days for :-):-):-). > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > Sanjay Rath > > > Monday, February 20, 2006 2:36 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + sri gurave namah + > > > > > > Dear Freedom & Sarbani > > > > > > Su-kara is also the name used in the mantra - om bhur namo bhagavate > > > sukaraaya > > > > > > There are two Varaha or boar forms - one black and the other white and > > hence > > > this confusion. Sveta Varaha marks the begining of a kalpa and while > > Varaha > > > avatar we are talking bout here is associated with rebirth and safe > > passage > > > through preganancy. Hence here seems to be some differences...please > > keep > > > these two forms in mind whenever you all talk of Sri Varaha or Sri > > > Su-kara... > > > > > > With best wishes & warm regards, > > > > > > Yours truly > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > ------------------------------- -- > > > > > > Webpages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > <http://.org/> > > > http://.org <http://sjcerc.com/> http://sjcerc.com > > > > > > Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India > > > > > > Phone: +91.11.25717162 > > > > > > ------------------------------- --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > freedom [freedom@] > > > Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:04 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does the avatar chapter (verse 2) use the word Sukara for the four > > > Paramatmamsa incarnations? > > > > > > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@] > > > Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:21 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freedom, > > > > > > > > > > > > Shukara means pig while Varaha means wild boar. The specific avatar > > rupa is > > > varaha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > freedom [freedom@] > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:32 PM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > Shukara is the name used by Parashara in BPHS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the mantras syllables are often colored, I used the Siva Purana > > colors > > > for the mantra here http://shrifreedom.com/yogapanchakshari.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > From my understanding, these colors relate to the internal yoga that > > > accompanies these mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:05 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't it be Om Namo Bhagavate Varahadevaya? The word Sanjay ji > > uses is > > > shUkara (the Boar/Sri Varaha). > > > > > > > > > > > > I've found something interesting in the chanting of " Om namo > > naaraayaNa " > > > which is to be chanted after evening during a new or full moon or the > > onset > > > of a journey or during dvadasi (other times are also indicated) - > > > > > > Om is white in colour; > > > > > > na is red > > > > > > mo is dark coloured > > > > > > naa, red again > > > > > > raa has a tinge of saffron > > > > > > ya is yellow > > > > > > naa has the colour of collyrium > > > > > > and yaa is multicoloured > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you make of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoping to return after Holi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > jk.dasgupta > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:38 PM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. How was your trip? You were supposed to call me while passing > > thru > > > Mumbai. I have missed you all due to my sickness. Could not make it > > this > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that is true. As far as I remember, Sanjayji somewhere told > > another > > > mantra when Rahu is in 9H from AK in D9 > > > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMAH BHAGABATE VARAHADEVAYA " > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a 13 letter mantra, Ista sitting on lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On > > Behalf Of > > > Swee Chan > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:25 PM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Requesting Sri Varaha to sustain our existence? > > > > > > The one I gave is to request Sri Varaha to retain our kingdom. It has > > to do > > > with dispute of land/s (Mars). > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > jk.dasgupta > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:02 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > In web searching i found the following mantra - supposedly mentioned > > in > > > Skanda Purana > > > > > > " Om Namah Shrivaraahaaya Dhranaayu Uddhaaraanay Swaaha " > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On > > Behalf Of > > > Sarbani Sarkar > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:59 PM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari and Swee, > > > > > > > > > > > > Agni Puran gives this mantra: Om Bhurnamo Bhagavate Varahaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:10 PM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the mantra: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||om namo bhagavate varahArUpAya bhUrbhuvassvah pataye bhUpatitvaM me > > dehi > > > dadApaya svAhA|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Kumbha lagnesa with Saturn and exalted Rahu in trines from svamsa and > > in the > > > 4th from my karakamsa. What does this mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > The " could be " / " or " referencing is not the same as saying it IS from > > that > > > source, is it? So where is the source? > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > onlyhari > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > |om| > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > Where is that mantra which attracted your attention? The sukaraya > > mantra > > > which Sanjay taught could be from Srimad Bhagavatam (or) from > > Maharishi > > > Parasara. You can find Sanjay's recent teachings on Freedom Cole's > > website. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Hari > > > sohamsa , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari you gave a mantra which I could not find in Narada Purana, but > > > instead, > > > > I found this one which attracted my attention. What is it used for? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti, Namaste. That's a very nice explanation about choosing the right expression/name for the mantra. Analyzed thus, the names do make more sense. I have never really used katapayadi varga earlier, so i have really woken up to the possibilities only after reading your mail:--)) From 1st house to the 7th house can also mark the " domain " of Sun(the original King)...do you think " Saarvabhouma " can also imply this meaning? I feel that perhaps there's some jumbling in the calculation for " maharaja " , instead of 8258 it should be 8285, and then the house would be 5th, Leo, the house of Sun!! I think that's a very good mantra indeed! Bravo Sarbani!! In order not to forget the lesson given by you, I worked it out for " om namo bhagavate purushottamaya " . Pu(1)ru(2)sho(6)tta(6)ma(5) =56621/12= Remainder 5, so it's the 5th house, Leo, again!! Do you think Sarbani was focussing on Leo, because such mantras would fully carry the power of Sun (Rama)? Please do correct my mistakes and am looking forward to learning more about tattva of aksharas. Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar > The name chosen for the devata carries a certain energy which one should > analyze using Katapayadi varga. For example: > a) Maharaja : Ma(5) ha(8) ra(2) ja(8) => 8258/12 = Remainder of 2. So the > energy of the name comes on Taurus, the natural second house, giving > sustenance, increase of family, friends, etc. So the purpose of the maharaja > is to ensure the sustenance of soceity! > b) Sarvabhouma : Sa(7) r(2) va(4) bhou(4) ma (5) => 54427/12 = Remainder of > 7. So the energy of the name is to promote the seventh house, i.e. improve > relations between partners, and increase welfare and communications between > neigboors. This is suitable for companies and governments to recite. > > Based on this you can understand the purpose of the name. There are other > more basic methods, like taking the tattva of the aksharas and adding them > together. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > 22 February 2006 09:19 > sohamsa > Re: Varaha Mantra- Visti & Lakshmi > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Sarbani, > > Thanks for the clarification. My knowledge of mantras is that of a > lay person, I never study them systematically, like you do, so your > guidance matters a great deal. > > I have another tiny doubt... > > Is there any specific reason for choosing the mantra as " om namo > bhagavate maharaajaya " instead of " om namo bhagavate > saarvabhoumaaya " , because astrologically and otherwise too, i think > Sri Rama was an emperor. Ofcourse, my question is based on the > popular haarathi hymn > > mangalam kosalendraaya mahaneeya guNaatmane > chakravarti tanoojaaya saarvabhoumaaya mangalam > > Let me guess..is it because chakravarthi yogas are a part of raja > yogas? > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Lakshmi, > > > > Guruji confirmed that Vishvamitra's mantra for Rama is valid as the > Rishi > > used Rama's name specifically in the mantra (Om Namo Bhagavate > Ramaya > > Mahapurushaya Namah) and that Om Namo Bhagavate Mahapurushaya is > more apt > > for Shiva following his talk at the conference as both of you > correctly > > pointed out. For Rama, the alternative 12 akshara mantras apart > from the Om > > namo bhagavate ramachandraya and Om namo bhagavate ramabhadraya, > are Om namo > > bhagavate maharajaya and Om namo bhagavate purushottamaya (thanks > Lakshmi!). > > The last two mantras Lakshmi will have the Sun and Mahapurush/Raja > Yoga > > reference. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@] > > Monday, February 20, 2006 5:27 PM > > sohamsa > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > I thought it was a mantra for Shiva!!!! Infact i remember Sanjayji > saying > > that often the name: Mahapurusha is associated with Rama, but is > actually > > for Shiva, as he is the embodiment of all the mahapurusha yogas, as > all the > > five tattvas are perfect in him. This is naturally manifested in > the form of > > his five heads - but that part we know already. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > Sarbani Sarkar > > 20 February 2006 07:07 > > sohamsa > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > Dear Swee and others, > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Mahapurushaya: Is it not one of the mantras for > Rama? > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Sourav [souravc108@] > > Monday, February 20, 2006 9:53 AM > > sohamsa > > Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Swee-ji, > > > > Namaskar. Sorry I made a mistake earlier. > The > > Varaha Mantra that I read in Robert-ji's book is Om Namo Bhagavate > > Mahaapurushaaya. Akupaaraya is the Kurma Avatara Mantra (Shani) as > > Sarbani-ji rightly pointed. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ======================================================== > > sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Swee-ji, > > > > > > namaskar. But then it will not be > > > dwadasakshari but becomes trayodasakshari. I think Sanjay-ji gave > Varaha > > > Avatara Mantra in his VRA as Om Namo Bhagavate Akupaaraaya > > > (dwadasakshari). > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Swee Chan " swee@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:05 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't it be Om Namo Bhagavate Varahadevaya? The word Sanjay > ji > > > uses is > > > > shUkara (the Boar/Sri Varaha). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Garsh!! Thank God it's not a " pig-ment " of my imagination, well > worth > > > > waiting 12 days for :-):-):-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > Monday, February 20, 2006 2:36 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + sri gurave namah + > > > > > > > > Dear Freedom & Sarbani > > > > > > > > Su-kara is also the name used in the mantra - om bhur namo > bhagavate > > > > sukaraaya > > > > > > > > There are two Varaha or boar forms - one black and the other > white and > > > hence > > > > this confusion. Sveta Varaha marks the begining of a kalpa and > while > > > Varaha > > > > avatar we are talking bout here is associated with rebirth and > safe > > > passage > > > > through preganancy. Hence here seems to be some > differences...please > > > keep > > > > these two forms in mind whenever you all talk of Sri Varaha or > Sri > > > > Su-kara... > > > > > > > > With best wishes & warm regards, > > > > > > > > Yours truly > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- -- > -- > > > > > > > > Webpages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > > <http://.org/> > > > > http://.org <http://sjcerc.com/> http://sjcerc.com > > > > > > > > Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India > > > > > > > > Phone: +91.11.25717162 > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- -- > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > freedom [freedom@] > > > > Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does the avatar chapter (verse 2) use the word Sukara for > the four > > > > Paramatmamsa incarnations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@] > > > > Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:21 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freedom, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shukara means pig while Varaha means wild boar. The specific > avatar > > > rupa is > > > > varaha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > freedom [freedom@] > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:32 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shukara is the name used by Parashara in BPHS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the mantras syllables are often colored, I used the Siva > Purana > > > colors > > > > for the mantra here > http://shrifreedom.com/yogapanchakshari.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my understanding, these colors relate to the internal yoga > that > > > > accompanies these mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:05 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't it be Om Namo Bhagavate Varahadevaya? The word Sanjay > ji > > > uses is > > > > shUkara (the Boar/Sri Varaha). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've found something interesting in the chanting of " Om namo > > > naaraayaNa " > > > > which is to be chanted after evening during a new or full moon > or the > > > onset > > > > of a journey or during dvadasi (other times are also > indicated) - > > > > > > > > Om is white in colour; > > > > > > > > na is red > > > > > > > > mo is dark coloured > > > > > > > > naa, red again > > > > > > > > raa has a tinge of saffron > > > > > > > > ya is yellow > > > > > > > > naa has the colour of collyrium > > > > > > > > and yaa is multicoloured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you make of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoping to return after Holi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > jk.dasgupta > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:38 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. How was your trip? You were supposed to call me while > passing > > > thru > > > > Mumbai. I have missed you all due to my sickness. Could not > make it > > > this > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that is true. As far as I remember, Sanjayji somewhere told > > > another > > > > mantra when Rahu is in 9H from AK in D9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMAH BHAGABATE VARAHADEVAYA " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a 13 letter mantra, Ista sitting on lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Swee Chan > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:25 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Requesting Sri Varaha to sustain our existence? > > > > > > > > The one I gave is to request Sri Varaha to retain our kingdom. > It has > > > to do > > > > with dispute of land/s (Mars). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > jk.dasgupta > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:02 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In web searching i found the following mantra - supposedly > mentioned > > > in > > > > Skanda Purana > > > > > > > > " Om Namah Shrivaraahaaya Dhranaayu Uddhaaraanay Swaaha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Sarbani Sarkar > > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:59 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari and Swee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agni Puran gives this mantra: Om Bhurnamo Bhagavate Varahaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the mantra: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||om namo bhagavate varahArUpAya bhUrbhuvassvah pataye > bhUpatitvaM me > > > dehi > > > > dadApaya svAhA|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kumbha lagnesa with Saturn and exalted Rahu in trines from > svamsa and > > > in the > > > > 4th from my karakamsa. What does this mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " could be " / " or " referencing is not the same as saying it > IS from > > > that > > > > source, is it? So where is the source? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > onlyhari > > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:30 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |om| > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > Where is that mantra which attracted your attention? The > sukaraya > > > mantra > > > > which Sanjay taught could be from Srimad Bhagavatam (or) from > > > Maharishi > > > > Parasara. You can find Sanjay's recent teachings on Freedom > Cole's > > > website. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > sohamsa , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari you gave a mantra which I could not find in Narada > Purana, but > > > > instead, > > > > > I found this one which attracted my attention. What is it > used for? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, Thanks for your clarification. As a fresher in mantra shastra, I enthusiastically nibble at whatever comes my way, very much like a babe who has newly learned to crawl:--)) At this juncture I have only a lot of curiosity and no discretion!! When I learn, I have a bad habit of going into a mode of unlearning/relearning in the light of new knowledge, so right now I am in such a state of flux that I really do not know what I know and what I do not know. For example, i always thought that though the names Raghupati and Sitapati both refer to Rama, there's a lot of difference in the " stress " on certain qualities or in the way the Deity is being approached/propitiated. I felt that when the Bhakta wants a wish fulfilled, he would choose the name/form which most closely approximates his desire. Saint-composers like Tyagaraja and Ramadas have appealed to sita for recommending their case(s) to Sitapati, who as the dutiful & caring husband, would never dare to refuse Her recommendation:--)) I am sure you have such sweet songs in Bengali and Hindi too. Here the emphasis is on the emotional nature of Sri Rama of Cancer lagna/rasi with 4th lord exalted. Whereas in " Raghupati " the stress is on the uncompromising Karma yogi, whose soul is exalted in the 10th house. The aspect of strong Saturn and Mars only accentuate it further. Perhaps when I learn more about mantra shastra I'll know whether/how it can accommodate such nuances. Right now, I'm content to just coast along, imbibing all I can from you and other friends. But I must read your papers as soon as I can:--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar " <sarbani wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Lakshmi, > > As elaborated in other mails, there are many different ways to analyse and > explore the nuances of names. Addressing Rama as Maharajaya is in consonant > with his Chakravarty status, of course no ordinary Chakravarty was he! He > was truly Maha-Raja in more sense than one. Similarly with the name > Purushottama, or Raghunatha or Sitapati. These names were not derived out of > analysis; you know there may be 1000 names that we may call him. They all > describe him in his various forms, and these names do not take away the > basic essence of why we worship him and what worshipping him does for us. > Hence the name Maharaja was not derived from Leo. But you know all this, > right? . > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani > > > > > _____ > > B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh] > Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:49 PM > sohamsa > Re: Varaha Mantra- Visti & Lakshmi > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Sarbani, > > Thanks for the clarification. My knowledge of mantras is that of a > lay person, I never study them systematically, like you do, so your > guidance matters a great deal. > > I have another tiny doubt... > > Is there any specific reason for choosing the mantra as " om namo > bhagavate maharaajaya " instead of " om namo bhagavate > saarvabhoumaaya " , because astrologically and otherwise too, i think > Sri Rama was an emperor. Ofcourse, my question is based on the > popular haarathi hymn > > mangalam kosalendraaya mahaneeya guNaatmane > chakravarti tanoojaaya saarvabhoumaaya mangalam > > Let me guess..is it because chakravarthi yogas are a part of raja > yogas? > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Lakshmi, > > > > Guruji confirmed that Vishvamitra's mantra for Rama is valid as the > Rishi > > used Rama's name specifically in the mantra (Om Namo Bhagavate > Ramaya > > Mahapurushaya Namah) and that Om Namo Bhagavate Mahapurushaya is > more apt > > for Shiva following his talk at the conference as both of you > correctly > > pointed out. For Rama, the alternative 12 akshara mantras apart > from the Om > > namo bhagavate ramachandraya and Om namo bhagavate ramabhadraya, > are Om namo > > bhagavate maharajaya and Om namo bhagavate purushottamaya (thanks > Lakshmi!). > > The last two mantras Lakshmi will have the Sun and Mahapurush/Raja > Yoga > > reference. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@] > > Monday, February 20, 2006 5:27 PM > > sohamsa > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > I thought it was a mantra for Shiva!!!! Infact i remember Sanjayji > saying > > that often the name: Mahapurusha is associated with Rama, but is > actually > > for Shiva, as he is the embodiment of all the mahapurusha yogas, as > all the > > five tattvas are perfect in him. This is naturally manifested in > the form of > > his five heads - but that part we know already. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > Sarbani Sarkar > > 20 February 2006 07:07 > > sohamsa > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > Dear Swee and others, > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Mahapurushaya: Is it not one of the mantras for > Rama? > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Sourav [souravc108@] > > Monday, February 20, 2006 9:53 AM > > sohamsa > > Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Swee-ji, > > > > Namaskar. Sorry I made a mistake earlier. > The > > Varaha Mantra that I read in Robert-ji's book is Om Namo Bhagavate > > Mahaapurushaaya. Akupaaraya is the Kurma Avatara Mantra (Shani) as > > Sarbani-ji rightly pointed. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ======================================================== > > sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Swee-ji, > > > > > > namaskar. But then it will not be > > > dwadasakshari but becomes trayodasakshari. I think Sanjay-ji gave > Varaha > > > Avatara Mantra in his VRA as Om Namo Bhagavate Akupaaraaya > > > (dwadasakshari). > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Swee Chan " swee@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:05 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't it be Om Namo Bhagavate Varahadevaya? The word Sanjay > ji > > > uses is > > > > shUkara (the Boar/Sri Varaha). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Garsh!! Thank God it's not a " pig-ment " of my imagination, well > worth > > > > waiting 12 days for :-):-):-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > Monday, February 20, 2006 2:36 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + sri gurave namah + > > > > > > > > Dear Freedom & Sarbani > > > > > > > > Su-kara is also the name used in the mantra - om bhur namo > bhagavate > > > > sukaraaya > > > > > > > > There are two Varaha or boar forms - one black and the other > white and > > > hence > > > > this confusion. Sveta Varaha marks the begining of a kalpa and > while > > > Varaha > > > > avatar we are talking bout here is associated with rebirth and > safe > > > passage > > > > through preganancy. Hence here seems to be some > differences...please > > > keep > > > > these two forms in mind whenever you all talk of Sri Varaha or > Sri > > > > Su-kara... > > > > > > > > With best wishes & warm regards, > > > > > > > > Yours truly > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- -- > -- > > > > > > > > Webpages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > > <http://.org/> > > > > http://.org <http://sjcerc.com/> http://sjcerc.com > > > > > > > > Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India > > > > > > > > Phone: +91.11.25717162 > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- -- > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > freedom [freedom@] > > > > Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does the avatar chapter (verse 2) use the word Sukara for > the four > > > > Paramatmamsa incarnations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@] > > > > Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:21 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freedom, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shukara means pig while Varaha means wild boar. The specific > avatar > > > rupa is > > > > varaha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > freedom [freedom@] > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:32 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shukara is the name used by Parashara in BPHS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the mantras syllables are often colored, I used the Siva > Purana > > > colors > > > > for the mantra here > http://shrifreedom.com/yogapanchakshari.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my understanding, these colors relate to the internal yoga > that > > > > accompanies these mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:05 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't it be Om Namo Bhagavate Varahadevaya? The word Sanjay > ji > > > uses is > > > > shUkara (the Boar/Sri Varaha). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've found something interesting in the chanting of " Om namo > > > naaraayaNa " > > > > which is to be chanted after evening during a new or full moon > or the > > > onset > > > > of a journey or during dvadasi (other times are also > indicated) - > > > > > > > > Om is white in colour; > > > > > > > > na is red > > > > > > > > mo is dark coloured > > > > > > > > naa, red again > > > > > > > > raa has a tinge of saffron > > > > > > > > ya is yellow > > > > > > > > naa has the colour of collyrium > > > > > > > > and yaa is multicoloured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you make of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoping to return after Holi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > jk.dasgupta > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:38 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. How was your trip? You were supposed to call me while > passing > > > thru > > > > Mumbai. I have missed you all due to my sickness. Could not > make it > > > this > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that is true. As far as I remember, Sanjayji somewhere told > > > another > > > > mantra when Rahu is in 9H from AK in D9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMAH BHAGABATE VARAHADEVAYA " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a 13 letter mantra, Ista sitting on lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Swee Chan > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:25 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear JK, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Requesting Sri Varaha to sustain our existence? > > > > > > > > The one I gave is to request Sri Varaha to retain our kingdom. > It has > > > to do > > > > with dispute of land/s (Mars). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > jk.dasgupta > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:02 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In web searching i found the following mantra - supposedly > mentioned > > > in > > > > Skanda Purana > > > > > > > > " Om Namah Shrivaraahaaya Dhranaayu Uddhaaraanay Swaaha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Sarbani Sarkar > > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:59 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari and Swee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agni Puran gives this mantra: Om Bhurnamo Bhagavate Varahaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Swee Chan [swee@] > > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the mantra: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||om namo bhagavate varahArUpAya bhUrbhuvassvah pataye > bhUpatitvaM me > > > dehi > > > > dadApaya svAhA|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kumbha lagnesa with Saturn and exalted Rahu in trines from > svamsa and > > > in the > > > > 4th from my karakamsa. What does this mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " could be " / " or " referencing is not the same as saying it > IS from > > > that > > > > source, is it? So where is the source? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > onlyhari > > > > Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:30 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Re: Varaha Mantra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |om| > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > Where is that mantra which attracted your attention? The > sukaraya > > > mantra > > > > which Sanjay taught could be from Srimad Bhagavatam (or) from > > > Maharishi > > > > Parasara. You can find Sanjay's recent teachings on Freedom > Cole's > > > website. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Hari > > > > sohamsa , " Swee Chan " swee@c... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari you gave a mantra which I could not find in Narada > Purana, but > > > > instead, > > > > > I found this one which attracted my attention. What is it > used for? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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