Bhava Arudhas in Vargas

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Namaste Shyamasundara Das,

 

> > Namaste Shyamasundara Prabhu,

>

> First of all my letter was not addressed to you but to Sanjay Rath

> Prabhu.

> Therefore I would prefer to get a response from him if you don't

> mind. I am

> still waiting for his response.

 

Sanjay ji is extremely busy with books, teaching and other things. If

he has time, he will probably respond to you.

 

> > It is very clear that you are talking about the " limitations " of a

>

> > " system " that you do not understand well. I will make a couple of

> quick

> > comments before I sleep for today. Jaimini did not say that all

> the

> > conclusions must be drawn from rasi chart. In fact, he added a

> couple of

> > divisional charts to the ones taught by Parasara.

>

> It seems that you are misunderstanding me. I have read several works

> on

> Jaimini and am aware that he uses varga charts. Perhaps you were too

>

> fatigued to notice exactly what I was saying.

>

> And that was that the way Bhava Arudhas was being used to date, in

> the

> discussion of the Lagna debate, was not helpful in rectification.

> You, later

 

We do use arudhas in vargas all the time. Read Sanjay's article on

dasamsa Narayana dasa in the latest Jyotish News (Jan 2001). He uses

arudha lagna (AL), rajya pada (A10) and ghati lagna in dasamsa in that

article.

 

If you see the archives of our list, you will see a lot of examples of

arudha padas in vargas being used in birthtime rectification.

 

> in your response, say that Arudhas can also be used in Varga charts.

> To date

 

It is not just " can " . It is " are " or " even " should " .

 

> in this debate over the Lagna I have not seen any text in which

> Arudhas were

> used in Varga charts. There may have been some but I did not see

> them.

 

And then you jumped to a conclusion that arudhas are not used in

vargas and then write about the limitations of Jaimini sub-system!

There is no justification for it.

 

Some students will be badly misled by your original mail. That is why

I had to point out that ashtakavarga and arudhas are applicable to

vargas too.

 

> That being the case it is then up to advocates of these methods to

> use them

> adequately so as to properly present the system.

 

Forget Gauranga's rectification of Srila's chart. I am not talking

about it. I am talking about the more general issue raised by you -

" limitations of Jaimini sub-system " . To see that we use arudhas in

vargas very freely, you only need to read Pt. Rath's book and my book

and the archives of our list.

 

> But up to now they have been only using them from Rasi which makes

> it of

> limited value, just as using Ashtaka varga from rasi has limited

> value.

 

Based on a few mails from Gauranga, you made wrong observations about

" Jaimini sub-system " . THAT is my problem.

 

BTW, Gauranga is an expert in the use of arudha padas and knows very

well how to use arudhas. You only jumped to conclusions about what is

possible within the limits of Jaimini's teachings and identified a

WRONG " limitation " .

 

> Limited value does not mean NO value. Nor does it mean that I

> dismiss it.

> Identifying a limitation is not the same as dismissal.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha