Lesson#6 Attempt

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Lesson #6 Attempt

Date:

Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:53:46 -0600

Sat Siri Khalsa <akath

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Dear jyotisha,

 

(Note: it seems to me that the controversy that has arisen over

the " mean " hora advocated by Sanjay ji and the " true " hora is akin to

the dispute between those who favor the traditional mean Varshaphal and

 

the Westernized thinkers who advocate the true solar return, or again,

it is like the debate whether to use the mean nodes or the " true "

nodes. It seems that a deep gulf exists between the principles of

division that stand behind these techniques and the empirical reality

that emerges when they are exactly applied , down to the last syllable

of recorded time, to borrow from Shakespeare. So there must be an

important

conclusion to be drawn that in cases such as these it is the principle

rather than the empirical reality which is the powerful arbiter of

meaning and significance in life. One can argue endlessly about mean

versus true solar returns, but I think everyone in this class who has

compared the results attained using the mean nodes rather than the true

nodes, especially in the divisional charts,

can attest to the superiority of the mean nodes in determining such

vital matters as the timing and gender for births of children, for

example. Perhaps it is something that has to come from experience, to

learn to look to the principle of the thing rather than the " scientific "

 

approach always.)

Question 1 (hora of birth and its effects)

Given my birth time, Aug 10 '48 15:34 EDT Philadelphia

Pa USA , my birth hora lord, mean or true is Venus. Attaining by the

mean method, starting from 6 am Local Mean Time. My city is 5 0 39 by

Local Mean Time so it does not differ much from standard time. 6 am on

a Tuesday is Mars hora. Birth is in the 10th hour of the day and this

is Venus's.

Venus is 12th lord and I live as part of an ashram community. Venus is

12th lord in 8th and my interests are in esoteric knowledge of spiritual

 

matters coming from a foreign country--India. Venus is seventh lord in

a dual sign in 8th house and I am in a second marriage.

Question 2 (project begun in hora of the tenth lord)

Second assignment is to

keep track for six months of work project undertaken in hora of tenth

lord, that would be Sun for me. Today is Tuesday, Mars day and Sun is

the second hora which it happens to be right now, so I should start

something and record

the time. I hope it can be continuing something I am already working

on. Question to track will be, when will it be

completed? I am doing a prasna for now, in the hora of the tenth lord,

and will track how it shows completion of the work.

Question 3 (oath of office of government)

I think it is to show how the swearing-in chart of the current

 

administration reflects the course of events. The oath of office for

Bill Clinton's second term was given at 12:05:41 on Jan 20 1997 in

Washington DC. See attached chart in following e-mail. As Washington

is 77 West, one must

add approximately eight minutes to get Local Mean Time, so time would

equate to 12:13 pm EST. This would be the hora, starting on a Monday

with Moon at 6 am, of Mercury. Moon and Mercury together can spell

infidelity. In the chart Moon is opposite Venus conjunct Mercury and

both are squared by Mars-Rahu, all in common signs so all

inter-aspecting by graha and rashi drishti. This well describes the

tangle Clinton got into over the Monica Lewinsky affair which was hugely

 

magnified by media meddlement, another Mercury matter. Saturn is part

of this grand cross. Saturn is the tenth lord and its full graha aspect

 

and rashi aspect on Mercury show the inability for anything effective to

 

be accomplished

during the second term, except gradually, and the types of things that

will only show in the long perspective of history.

Mercury's rule of the sixth house shows the cause of health care

reform and its failure during the administration. Mercury's rule of the

 

third shows the many short trips undertaken by the president and the

Moon there shows his succssful role as mediator and negotiatior in

foreign affairs. The involvement of badly afflicted Mars shows the

botched military impetus for example in Kosovo and the utter failure

with regard to intervention in African genocide.

.. What does Mercury the hora lord show with regard to the succession

after this administration? Mercury is the

sixth lord and is in the Shatrupad and so is fully representative of his

 

political enemies. But it is afflicted by Saturn Rahu Mars and Ketu.

Fifth lord Sun shows the chosen successor and is in dik bala in

swakshetra accompanied by ninth lord Jupiter who

is in parivartana with tenth lord Saturn--so a change of status in the

offing from near extinction through impeachment to

electoral vindication? Mercury has argala with this successful Sun.

Mercury also aspects the A5 into its own sign of Gemini. This Mercury

is conjunct within 2.5 degrees Al Gore's lagnesh Moon.

Question 4 (giving the Guru Mantra in which bhava or arudh)

I already seem to be involved in writing and teaching

in this area and hope by grace of God and Guru to continue. When you

ask about giving the Guru Mantra I hesitate because I am not really sure

 

what you mean by this. I feel very

unqualified in this realm. Also as a Sikh I am not sure what are the

best mantras for me to receive and to give. Once that is more illumined

 

for me I would think about the part of relating to the Bhava or the

Arudh Pada of the Bhava that the teacher must take both into account.

The bhava is the actual state of mind relating say to mantra. But the

arudh pada is how

the mantra will affect the student in the maya of her life. The teacher

 

should take both into account to help the student find the right

relationship between reality and her behavior. Some students are not

ready or willing to accept a mantra and the teacher

must find the right practice for what the student can accept.

Question 5 (negotiating and occupying a new home)

For entering a new house the hora of the fourth lord is the

key. In my case it is Rahu as lord of the fourth but Rahu does not have

 

a hora. I would probably take Venus because Venus is in a nakshatra

exchange with Rahu. Venus has shubhargala on the fourth house. Venus

is lord of the seventh house, which is fourth from the fourth.

For negotiations the third-ninth axis are important.

My ninth lord is Moon and Moon is my bhadaka lord which is bad in

general but there is one exception: when Moon is bhadakesh and is in

twelfth house that is supposed to be good.

That applies here so I could probably use Moon horas as good for

negotiations.

Question 6 (when to see a doctor)

Lagna lord for doctors (I have seen other replies!)---but since

my lagna lord is Ketu which has no hora, hmmm.

Maybe Moon because it is associated with lagnesh. Jupiter in lagna

would not be good as it is a maraka. Perhaps Mars as co-lord of lagna

and situated in Arudh Lagna. Mars seems best.

Question 7 (when to see a jyotishi)

To see a jyotishi probably Jupiter as AK in lagna would be best

choice for hora/day. Also good could be Sun as

Amatyakaraka in ninth with rashi/graha drishti of Jupiter. I spoke to

Sanjay accidentally on a Sunday at high noon! Jupiter hora!

Question 8 (when given an inauspicious interview

time)

Supposing there is no chance to change the time, I would resort

to japa. When Guru Arjun Dev was stuck in

compiling Adi Granth, he chanted as in Sukhmani Sahib: Ad Sach Jugad

Sach Hebhe Sach Nanak Hosi Bhe Sach

Question 9 (when spouse threatens divorce)

To reconcile and to prevent marital mishap the day and

 

the hour of Upapada Lord are auspicious.

In my case Rahu, so Saturday, and again, Venus hora seems best. Venus

is

in nakshatra exchange with Rahu. Venus is also seventh lord, in rashi

and navamsa. Lord of Upapada in navamsa is Capricorn containing Moon

and Venus, so again Venus.

 

Sorry for the lateness of answering.

Sincerely,

Sat Nam,

Sat Siri Kaur