initiation needed for rik vedic mantras?

[Guest guest]

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

Changing the Rks in ANY way changes the mantra. You need to be

initiated for this... yes even aum.

In Puri they do Homas and Havans all the time and this is a regular

part of the Puja. Get someone from there and ask them.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

chandan486 skrev:

 

 

sri ganeshaya namah

 

dear visti ,namaste.

 

thanks for replying as i had left all hope of receiving a reply.

 

so are we supposed a add aum before the mantra ? would it not change

the vibration of the original mantra and also its effect?

 

for example mangal mantra would just be recited as is ..:

 

agnirmurdha divah kakut patih

prithivya ayam apam retam si jinvati

 

also , the bphs mentions doing a homa with either 28/108 offering after

the specifed count has been reached? what if we are unable to do the

home ourselves or cannot find somebody qualified enough to do a proper

homa.

 

i stay in mumbai , india and here it is very rare to find real qualifed

people.

 

humble regards,

chandan s sabarwal.

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> We can only benefit from getting diksha into the Rks of the Rg

Veda,

> however the Rks in the form as they are given in the Rg Veda

require no

> initiation and are free from any blemish. People are encouraged to

 

> recite them. Further, you will find that once initiation is given

into

> these Rks certain bijas are added to the mantra, and this is what

> requires initiation.

>

> It is even possible for the Vedanga Jyotishas to exactly specify

which

> Rk a person should recite for any Karma they have based on their

chart,

> but this requires a lot of proficiency and some research.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> chandan486 skrev:

> >

> >

> > sri ganeshaya namah

> >

> > dear all,

> > namaste.

> >

> > would like to ask all learned members on the forum that do

the rik

> > veda mantras mentioned by maharshi parashara in BPHS , need

somekind

> > of initiation before starting japa?

> >

> > aLSO , bhps mentions that after completion of specified

japa,homa with

> > offerings of 28/108 of the same mantra should be performed.

> >

> > considering todays world , where very little geniune people

exsist who

> > can actually do a technically correct homa , how feasible is

this?

> >

> > comments please,

> >

> > humbly,

> > chandan s sabarwal.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

It means you are quite pious and dharmic as now the Dharma Devata is on

the Lagna. Can also mean you will learn a spiritual subject in great

detail. However, as usual with most Jupiter Atmakarakas their self

confidence in matters of knowledge is blameworthy. The tradition will

recommend the worship of Mars as either the Bhimashankara Jyotirlinga

(Sri Kashinatha Ratha's advise) or Mahavidya Sri Bagalamukhi (Sri

Sanjay Ratha's advise).

Hope this clarifies.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

chandan486 skrev:

 

 

dear visti,

namaste.

 

thanks once again . i have ak - jupiter in 5th house in d-9. what does

this indicate?

 

any good news for me ???

 

humbly,

chandan s sabarwal.

 

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> Changing the Rks in ANY way changes the mantra. You need to be

initiated

> for this... yes even aum.

> In Puri they do Homas and Havans all the time and this is a

regular part

> of the Puja. Get someone from there and ask them.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> chandan486 skrev:

> >

> >

> > sri ganeshaya namah

> >

> > dear visti ,namaste.

> >

> > thanks for replying as i had left all hope of receiving a

reply.

> >

> > so are we supposed a add aum before the mantra ? would it not

change

> > the vibration of the original mantra and also its effect?

> >

> > for example mangal mantra would just be recited as is ..:

> >

> > agnirmurdha divah kakut patih

> > prithivya ayam apam retam si jinvati

> >

> > also , the bphs mentions doing a homa with either 28/108

offering

> > after the specifed count has been reached? what if we are

unable to do

> > the home ourselves or cannot find somebody qualified enough

to do a

> > proper homa.

> >

> > i stay in mumbai , india and here it is very rare to find

real

> > qualifed people.

> >

> > humble regards,

> > chandan s sabarwal.

> >

 

> > <%40>,

Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > We can only benefit from getting diksha into the Rks of

the Rg Veda,

> > > however the Rks in the form as they are given in the Rg

Veda require no

> > > initiation and are free from any blemish. People are

encouraged to

> > > recite them. Further, you will find that once initiation

is given into

> > > these Rks certain bijas are added to the mantra, and

this is what

> > > requires initiation.

> > >

> > > It is even possible for the Vedanga Jyotishas to exactly

specify which

> > > Rk a person should recite for any Karma they have based

on their chart,

> > > but this requires a lot of proficiency and some research.

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > chandan486 skrev:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sri ganeshaya namah

> > > >

> > > > dear all,

> > > > namaste.

> > > >

> > > > would like to ask all learned members on the forum

that do the rik

> > > > veda mantras mentioned by maharshi parashara in

BPHS , need somekind

> > > > of initiation before starting japa?

> > > >

> > > > aLSO , bhps mentions that after completion of

specified japa,homa

> > with

> > > > offerings of 28/108 of the same mantra should be

performed.

> > > >

> > > > considering todays world , where very little

geniune people exsist

> > who

> > > > can actually do a technically correct homa , how

feasible is this?

> > > >

> > > > comments please,

> > > >

> > > > humbly,

> > > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Chandan,

Namaste

 

I’d like to add that there are

only certain lunar months in the year for you to be initiated into any gayatri

mantra. Since the period of shraddha arrives tomorrow, shouldn’t your

initial problem be to offer oblations to the pitris to appease them first

before you consider embarking on a search for diksha?

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Visti Larsen

03 September 2009 12:21

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

initiation needed for rik vedic mantras?

 

 

 

 

हरे

राम

कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

Changing the Rks in ANY way changes the mantra. You need to be initiated for

this... yes even aum.

In Puri they do Homas and Havans all the time and this is a regular part of the

Puja. Get someone from there and ask them.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

chandan486 skrev:

 

sri ganeshaya namah

 

dear visti ,namaste.

 

thanks for replying as i had left all hope of receiving a reply.

 

so are we supposed a add aum before the mantra ? would it not change the

vibration of the original mantra and also its effect?

 

for example mangal mantra would just be recited as is ..:

 

agnirmurdha divah kakut patih

prithivya ayam apam retam si jinvati

 

also , the bphs mentions doing a homa with either 28/108 offering after the

specifed count has been reached? what if we are unable to do the home ourselves

or cannot find somebody qualified enough to do a proper homa.

 

i stay in mumbai , india

and here it is very rare to find real qualifed people.

 

humble regards,

chandan s sabarwal.

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> We can only benefit from getting diksha into the Rks of the Rg Veda,

> however the Rks in the form as they are given in the Rg Veda require no

> initiation and are free from any blemish. People are encouraged to

> recite them. Further, you will find that once initiation is given into

> these Rks certain bijas are added to the mantra, and this is what

> requires initiation.

>

> It is even possible for the Vedanga Jyotishas to exactly specify which

> Rk a person should recite for any Karma they have based on their chart,

> but this requires a lot of proficiency and some research.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> chandan486 skrev:

> >

> >

> > sri ganeshaya namah

> >

> > dear all,

> > namaste.

> >

> > would like to ask all learned members on the forum that do the rik

> > veda mantras mentioned by maharshi parashara in BPHS , need somekind

> > of initiation before starting japa?

> >

> > aLSO , bhps mentions that after completion of specified japa,homa

with

> > offerings of 28/108 of the same mantra should be performed.

> >

> > considering todays world , where very little geniune people exsist

who

> > can actually do a technically correct homa , how feasible is this?

> >

> > comments please,

> >

> > humbly,

> > chandan s sabarwal.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

Diksha depends on those who wanto give it to you. Also there is no

price, just Dakshina.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

chandan486 skrev:

 

 

dear visti ,

namaste.

 

well i have access to many hidden and secret knowledges and stotras

that have come to me own their own .one of them is the kamakhya tantra

for instance. no body gave them to me and somehow i feel sometimes as

if they found me.

 

also , i have had amazing psychedelic experinces and vision using

menthods i cannot describe on the forum. just looking for a diksa guru

now.

 

does diksa cost money though?

 

humbly,

chandan s sabarwal.

 

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> It means you are quite pious and dharmic as now the Dharma Devata

is on

> the Lagna. Can also mean you will learn a spiritual subject in

great

> detail. However, as usual with most Jupiter Atmakarakas their self

 

> confidence in matters of knowledge is blameworthy. The tradition

will

> recommend the worship of Mars as either the Bhimashankara

Jyotirlinga

> (Sri Kashinatha Ratha's advise) or Mahavidya Sri Bagalamukhi (Sri

Sanjay

> Ratha's advise).

> Hope this clarifies.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> chandan486 skrev:

> >

> >

> > dear visti,

> > namaste.

> >

> > thanks once again . i have ak - jupiter in 5th house in d-9.

what does

> > this indicate?

> >

> > any good news for me ???

> >

> > humbly,

> > chandan s sabarwal.

> >

> >

 

> > <%40>,

Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > Changing the Rks in ANY way changes the mantra. You need

to be

> > initiated

> > > for this... yes even aum.

> > > In Puri they do Homas and Havans all the time and this

is a regular

> > part

> > > of the Puja. Get someone from there and ask them.

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > @: visti@

> > >

> > > chandan486 skrev:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sri ganeshaya namah

> > > >

> > > > dear visti ,namaste.

> > > >

> > > > thanks for replying as i had left all hope of

receiving a reply.

> > > >

> > > > so are we supposed a add aum before the mantra ?

would it not change

> > > > the vibration of the original mantra and also its

effect?

> > > >

> > > > for example mangal mantra would just be recited as

is ..:

> > > >

> > > > agnirmurdha divah kakut patih

> > > > prithivya ayam apam retam si jinvati

> > > >

> > > > also , the bphs mentions doing a homa with either

28/108 offering

> > > > after the specifed count has been reached? what if

we are unable

> > to do

> > > > the home ourselves or cannot find somebody

qualified enough to do a

> > > > proper homa.

> > > >

> > > > i stay in mumbai , india and here it is very rare

to find real

> > > > qualifed people.

> > > >

> > > > humble regards,

> > > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>,

Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > > > We can only benefit from getting diksha into

the Rks of the Rg Veda,

> > > > > however the Rks in the form as they are given

in the Rg Veda

> > require no

> > > > > initiation and are free from any blemish.

People are encouraged to

> > > > > recite them. Further, you will find that once

initiation is

> > given into

> > > > > these Rks certain bijas are added to the

mantra, and this is what

> > > > > requires initiation.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is even possible for the Vedanga Jyotishas

to exactly specify

> > which

> > > > > Rk a person should recite for any Karma they

have based on their

> > chart,

> > > > > but this requires a lot of proficiency and

some research.

> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

> > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

 

> > <http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>>

> > > > > @: visti@

> > > > >

> > > > > chandan486 skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > > namaste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > would like to ask all learned members on

the forum that do the rik

> > > > > > veda mantras mentioned by maharshi

parashara in BPHS , need

> > somekind

> > > > > > of initiation before starting japa?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > aLSO , bhps mentions that after

completion of specified japa,homa

> > > > with

> > > > > > offerings of 28/108 of the same mantra

should be performed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > considering todays world , where very

little geniune people

> > exsist

> > > > who

> > > > > > can actually do a technically correct

homa , how feasible is this?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > comments please,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > humbly,

> > > > > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>