Answer to Lesson 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha ji, pranaam and Hare Krishna,

 

Many thanks to you and gurudeva Sanjaya for the progressions lesson. It is

quite amazing and exciting to see how many predictive techniques the two of

you have up in your sleeves.

 

While reading your solution to the Progression puzzle two questions popped

up in my mind:

 

1) Are the saham points something which is specifically used in Tajika

charts and progressed charts or are the sahams to be used in natal astrology

as well.

 

2) In the Gandhi example you took the graha drishti of progressed Sun to

Kali saham, not Rashi drishti. It has been taught here that Graha drishti

indicates a desire while Rashi drishti indicates something which will

definitely manifest. More often than not, it seems that Graha drishti can be

completely ignored and then again, every now and then we do consider it. I

am unable to fully understand how we decide when to consider Graha drishti

and when not? By intuition? By experience?

 

Did Indira Gandhi desire to suffer setbacks (prog. Sun aspects Kali saham by

graha drishti)? It is easy to understand that Graha drishti by Jupiter or

another benefic indicates a desire for a certain favourable result but how

does, say, Saturn´s aspect by graha drishti indicate a desire for something.

Nobody desires misery. I am confused about this.

 

Please enlighten.

 

Regards, Anantarupa

 

 

 

pvr wrote:

 

> We see that Ghati Lagna (seat of power and authority) is at 24Ar10.

> Progressed Sun near natal GL gives power. So the native must be

> experiencing some power and authority. Kali saham is at 27Li01. Kali

> stands for strife, anger, vice etc. Progressed Sun's contact with

> natal kali saham shows some setbacks and strife in one's activities

> in society. The native engages in activities that bring strife to

> oneself and others.

>

> This chart belongs to Indira Gandhi, former PM of India. Those of you

> who know modern Indian history well will realize that I gave the date

> on which emergency was imposed in India.

>

> She became India's PM around the time progressed Sun entered Ar (10th

> house with GL!). When the progressed Sun came close to natal GL, she

> triumphed over dissidents in her party and her party had a huge

> electoral victory. During the time of Sun's exact progression near

> GL, she started to feel very powerful and took up some unpopular

> policy decisions.

>

> Just before progressed Sun's contact with natal kali saham became

> exact, a court gave an unfavorable judgment in a case involving her

> and she declared emergency. All the democratic institutions were

> suspended, political opponents lodged in jails, press shutdown and

> she and her son did whatever they thought was right. Progressed Sun

> close to natal GL and kali saham made her exert power to reduce the

> world's largest democracy to a tyranny.

>

> She paid for it after Sun left Aries.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Anantarupa,

 

> Dear Narasimha ji, pranaam and Hare Krishna,

>

> Many thanks to you and gurudeva Sanjaya for the progressions

lesson. It is

> quite amazing and exciting to see how many predictive techniques

the two of

> you have up in your sleeves.

 

My knowledge is very limited, but Sanjay certainly has a lot of gems

up his sleeve.

 

I am garnering whatever I can in the limited time I get to spend with

him on the phone and trying to share it with others.

 

> While reading your solution to the Progression puzzle two questions

popped

> up in my mind:

>

> 1) Are the saham points something which is specifically used in

Tajika

> charts and progressed charts or are the sahams to be used in natal

astrology

> as well.

 

Yes. Sahams are to be used in natal charts too. Read COVA for example.

 

There is a misconception that Tajaka is a special system. It's not.

 

> 2) In the Gandhi example you took the graha drishti of progressed

Sun to

> Kali saham, not Rashi drishti. It has been taught here that Graha

drishti

> indicates a desire while Rashi drishti indicates something which

will

> definitely manifest. More often than not, it seems that Graha

drishti can be

> completely ignored and then again, every now and then we do

consider it. I

> am unable to fully understand how we decide when to consider Graha

drishti

> and when not? By intuition? By experience?

>

> Did Indira Gandhi desire to suffer setbacks (prog. Sun aspects Kali

saham by

> graha drishti)? It is easy to understand that Graha drishti by

Jupiter or

> another benefic indicates a desire for a certain favourable result

but how

> does, say, Saturn´s aspect by graha drishti indicate a desire for

something.

> Nobody desires misery. I am confused about this.

 

I considered neither graha drishti nor rasi drishti. I only

took " trines and 7th " influence. I am not sure of the importance of

trines and 7th and why progressed Sun influences trines and 7th from

him. When I have some insight, I will share it with you.

 

> Please enlighten.

>

> Regards, Anantarupa

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha