Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dear Manu, How come that Sat and Venus is in 1:7 ratio and even then Venus continue to be SD to Saturn? Isnt this contrary to samdharmi rules as described in the lessons? Smthing confusing... really...??? Regards Anup Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: Dear Ramesh, My answers below. Thanks & Regards, Manu , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Manu, Anup and all, > You said Sa antara in Ra main will give marriage coz Sa is SD to Ve LoE. > But law states that if antara of any planet is running and that is aspecting either house A or B or C then that planet will not give the event instead their SD will come forward. > In this chart Sa antara is in progress and Sa aspects house C. Sa is in 1:7 with Ve in navamsa.Sa opposes Ve here so Sa is not SD to Ve here.This is first point. MANU: I have already explained this in my previous post based on my understanding. > Second point is that Sa is weak in WS for 2nd and 5th house so how Sa antara will give the event ? MANU: Ramesh, I think I have seen couple of charts with low points for 2nd house and 5th house, and still the antra giving marriage. Ofcourse I maybe wrong in my understanding or analysis. Still learning. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > Hi Manu, > > Thanxs for your views. > What actually i wrote " it will give result according to SD (Planet X ) rules. > Here " it " word was actually refered as " antra " and not planet Y. > Mistake was mine:) > And yes, you appropriately described how a samdharmi can give result irrespective of its aspect on house A, B or C. > Many a times, we used skip a particular antra due to sight on house A, B or C. and never consider its SD for result. > Again many thanks.. > Regards > Anup > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > Dear Anup, > > If I understood you correctly, I think it is just the opposite of that > actually. > > Say, planet X is SD to planet Y and planet X is giving result for Y > (due to any reason...Y aspecting A/B/C or Y antra in delay period > etc), then even if planet X aspects A/B/C, still it will be able to > give result. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Thanxs for your analysis Manu .So > should we assume that when a planet X is acting as SD to any planet > Y(antra lord), aspect of antra lord (here Y) to the house A, B and C > is neglected, > > and it will give result according to SD (planet X)rules? > > Am i right? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > > > For planets when they give results due to SD-ship, we don't check for > > their aspects to ABC. This is my current understanding. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > Your reasoning is equally good but Sat > > is aspecting house C and its weak in 5th house enabling its SD Jup > > to give result being LoE. > > > Can Saturn give results only coz its LoD in 12th house? > > > Did u chose this antra ...being an earliest one as delay is over? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > I would go for ra/sa 2nd sector for marriage. > > > > > > The reasons being sa is SD to ve (LOE for hs7 and highest > > > significator). Sa is highest significator for 12th house and LoD. > > > Sa is SD to ju (LoE and highest significator for hs5). > > > > > > 2nd sector because there are two zeroes. > > > > > > I would request others to kindly correct if there is any mistake. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Few more hints...... > > > > She never loses temper in public > > > > But suppress her anger & take revenge > > > > she does sure " revenging " > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Can you find out if this girl likes a boy and her father is in > > > > oppsition to that and hence the inquiry? > > > > Can you tell me what is this girls field and occupation? > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right that there is a zero by > > > > Mercury in the 7th house, which may also can drive this delay to > Ketu > > > > antra.I think, this logic is worth.I think Ash will also comment > upon > > > > this for us.Thanxs Ramesh, Sindhu for casting this chart though we > > > > three have three different views upon such a case:) > > > > > It doesnt matter wheather we are wrong or right but everytime we > > > > learn smthing of every chart. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Anup and Sindhu, > > > > > One way you might be correct timing Me antara in Ra main > > > > > But I have doubt in Me antara observing that Me gives zero in 7th > > > > house so Will Me be able to give the event in his antara ? > > > > > Why not Ke antara ? Ke is SD to Ve and Ve is LoE for 7th. Ve is > > > > powerful in all the houses except 6th. > > > > > SAV points in 7th is very low. > > > > > 7th lord Ju aspects its 7th with a malefic sight. > > > > > 7th lord Ju is afflicted by Ra /Ke > > > > > 6th lord Ma occupy 7th in navamsa.Ma is in Ve navamsa .Ve is > NK for > > > > 7th. Ve is in navamsa of 6th lord. There is exchange between the > lords > > > > of 7th and 6th in navamsa. > > > > > Ma who is 6th lord combines with Mo the FK of 7th. > > > > > There is two zeros in SAV chart. > > > > > So after assessing all these circumstances I think delay is > further > > > > enhanced to third sector Ke antara. > > > > > I may be wrong also . I do not know. > > > > > Actually untill we get feed back from the native, it might be > merely > > > > assumption. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Hi Sindhu, > > > > > Yes, Sat is in house A but also aspecting house C obviously. > > > > > I was saying for the Sat delay will be over in July2002 and after > > > > that Jup delay.As you are saying all delays will be over in Sat > antra > > > > which starts from Aug2006.Are you adding 4 years for Jup plus 20% > > delay? > > > > > I go for Mer first sector due to Mercury only. > > > > > It can be in third sector as MD is of Rahu main and respective > > > > delays too. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > Hi Anup, > > > > > In my attempt, all the delays get over by saturn > > > > > antra..However, I don't think Saturn antara can give > > > > > results not because it is in A but because it is > > > > > aspecting C and it is neither LOD or LOE. Mercury > > > > > antara can give results and since there are two zeros > > > > > and complete delay by Sa and Jupiter, I will go for > > > > > the last sector. 2011-2012. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > hI all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another chart here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB 3rd JULY 1976 > > > > > > tob 04.23am > > > > > > lat 20N10 lati 85E42 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc 6 G 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > In which antra the native may marry? > > > > > > > > > > > > Full delay by Sat and by Jup.. > > > > > > Two zero in 7th hosue by MARS and Mer > > > > > > DBCE in lagna and Sun in ascending order > > > > > > 6th lord with FK(moon) in Sun navamsa and in lagna > > > > > > in rashi chart > > > > > > Lagna and 7th lord in 6:8 ratio > > > > > > Venus( Nk)in Mars(6th lord) navamsa > > > > > > Moon with 6th lord in rashi > > > > > > Sat delay ends in arround 15-07-2002 in rahu antra > > > > > > Jup delay added one year plus 20% delay added due > > > > > > to 2 zero > > > > > > Jup wont give the marriage being in house C > > > > > > > > > > > > Can Sat antra will give the marriage in 3rd > > > > > > sector? > > > > > > I think it wont as Sat is in house A.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Mer in first sector give the marriage in june > > > > > > 2009-apr-2010? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is SD to Venus,Sun,Moon > > > > > > Mer is LOd in 7th hosue > > > > > > Venus , being SD to Mercury, LOE in 12th > > > > > > Moon is LOD in 5th.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is aspecting House B,but Mer is LoE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dear Anup and Ramesh, Thanks for your email. I guess I did not properly read Ramesh's point initially. Thanks for the clarification. My understanding is that when planets are in opposition, they stop acting as NSDs. However, in the current case, Sa is also in navamsa of venus. Hence, Sa should continue to be SD to ve. Further, in the current case both Sa and Ve have less than 4 points hence, aspect each other benefically. I don't think this can be treated as opposition. Maybe Ash can guide us. I may be wrong. Kindly correct me if this is the case. Thanks & Regards, Manu , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > How come that Sat and Venus is in 1:7 ratio and even then Venus continue to be SD to Saturn? > Isnt this contrary to samdharmi rules as described in the lessons? > Smthing confusing... really...??? > > Regards > Anup > > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > My answers below. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, Anup and all, > > You said Sa antara in Ra main will give marriage coz Sa is SD to > Ve LoE. > > But law states that if antara of any planet is running and that is > aspecting either house A or B or C then that planet will not give the > event instead their SD will come forward. > > In this chart Sa antara is in progress and Sa aspects house C. Sa > is in 1:7 with Ve in navamsa.Sa opposes Ve here so Sa is not SD to Ve > here.This is first point. > > MANU: I have already explained this in my previous post based on my > understanding. > > > Second point is that Sa is weak in WS for 2nd and 5th house so how > Sa antara will give the event ? > > MANU: Ramesh, I think I have seen couple of charts with low points for > 2nd house and 5th house, and still the antra giving marriage. Ofcourse > I maybe wrong in my understanding or analysis. Still learning. > > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Hi Manu, > > > > Thanxs for your views. > > What actually i wrote " it will give result according to SD (Planet X > ) rules. > > Here " it " word was actually refered as " antra " and not planet Y. > > Mistake was mine:) > > And yes, you appropriately described how a samdharmi can give result > irrespective of its aspect on house A, B or C. > > Many a times, we used skip a particular antra due to sight on house > A, B or C. and never consider its SD for result. > > Again many thanks.. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > > > If I understood you correctly, I think it is just the opposite of that > > actually. > > > > Say, planet X is SD to planet Y and planet X is giving result for Y > > (due to any reason...Y aspecting A/B/C or Y antra in delay period > > etc), then even if planet X aspects A/B/C, still it will be able to > > give result. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > Thanxs for your analysis Manu .So > > should we assume that when a planet X is acting as SD to any planet > > Y(antra lord), aspect of antra lord (here Y) to the house A, B and C > > is neglected, > > > and it will give result according to SD (planet X)rules? > > > Am i right? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > For planets when they give results due to SD-ship, we don't check for > > > their aspects to ABC. This is my current understanding. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Your reasoning is equally good but Sat > > > is aspecting house C and its weak in 5th house enabling its SD Jup > > > to give result being LoE. > > > > Can Saturn give results only coz its LoD in 12th house? > > > > Did u chose this antra ...being an earliest one as delay is over? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > > > I would go for ra/sa 2nd sector for marriage. > > > > > > > > The reasons being sa is SD to ve (LOE for hs7 and highest > > > > significator). Sa is highest significator for 12th house and LoD. > > > > Sa is SD to ju (LoE and highest significator for hs5). > > > > > > > > 2nd sector because there are two zeroes. > > > > > > > > I would request others to kindly correct if there is any mistake. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > Few more hints...... > > > > > She never loses temper in public > > > > > But suppress her anger & take revenge > > > > > she does sure " revenging " > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > Can you find out if this girl likes a boy and her father is in > > > > > oppsition to that and hence the inquiry? > > > > > Can you tell me what is this girls field and occupation? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right that there is a zero by > > > > > Mercury in the 7th house, which may also can drive this delay to > > Ketu > > > > > antra.I think, this logic is worth.I think Ash will also comment > > upon > > > > > this for us.Thanxs Ramesh, Sindhu for casting this chart though we > > > > > three have three different views upon such a case:) > > > > > > It doesnt matter wheather we are wrong or right but everytime we > > > > > learn smthing of every chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anup and Sindhu, > > > > > > One way you might be correct timing Me antara in Ra main > > > > > > But I have doubt in Me antara observing that Me gives zero > in 7th > > > > > house so Will Me be able to give the event in his antara ? > > > > > > Why not Ke antara ? Ke is SD to Ve and Ve is LoE for 7th. Ve is > > > > > powerful in all the houses except 6th. > > > > > > SAV points in 7th is very low. > > > > > > 7th lord Ju aspects its 7th with a malefic sight. > > > > > > 7th lord Ju is afflicted by Ra /Ke > > > > > > 6th lord Ma occupy 7th in navamsa.Ma is in Ve navamsa .Ve is > > NK for > > > > > 7th. Ve is in navamsa of 6th lord. There is exchange between the > > lords > > > > > of 7th and 6th in navamsa. > > > > > > Ma who is 6th lord combines with Mo the FK of 7th. > > > > > > There is two zeros in SAV chart. > > > > > > So after assessing all these circumstances I think delay is > > further > > > > > enhanced to third sector Ke antara. > > > > > > I may be wrong also . I do not know. > > > > > > Actually untill we get feed back from the native, it might be > > merely > > > > > assumption. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sindhu, > > > > > > Yes, Sat is in house A but also aspecting house C obviously. > > > > > > I was saying for the Sat delay will be over in July2002 and > after > > > > > that Jup delay.As you are saying all delays will be over in Sat > > antra > > > > > which starts from Aug2006.Are you adding 4 years for Jup plus 20% > > > delay? > > > > > > I go for Mer first sector due to Mercury only. > > > > > > It can be in third sector as MD is of Rahu main and respective > > > > > delays too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Anup, > > > > > > In my attempt, all the delays get over by saturn > > > > > > antra..However, I don't think Saturn antara can give > > > > > > results not because it is in A but because it is > > > > > > aspecting C and it is neither LOD or LOE. Mercury > > > > > > antara can give results and since there are two zeros > > > > > > and complete delay by Sa and Jupiter, I will go for > > > > > > the last sector. 2011-2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > hI all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another chart here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB 3rd JULY 1976 > > > > > > > tob 04.23am > > > > > > > lat 20N10 lati 85E42 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc 6 G 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In which antra the native may marry? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Full delay by Sat and by Jup.. > > > > > > > Two zero in 7th hosue by MARS and Mer > > > > > > > DBCE in lagna and Sun in ascending order > > > > > > > 6th lord with FK(moon) in Sun navamsa and in lagna > > > > > > > in rashi chart > > > > > > > Lagna and 7th lord in 6:8 ratio > > > > > > > Venus( Nk)in Mars(6th lord) navamsa > > > > > > > Moon with 6th lord in rashi > > > > > > > Sat delay ends in arround 15-07-2002 in rahu antra > > > > > > > Jup delay added one year plus 20% delay added due > > > > > > > to 2 zero > > > > > > > Jup wont give the marriage being in house C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can Sat antra will give the marriage in 3rd > > > > > > > sector? > > > > > > > I think it wont as Sat is in house A.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Mer in first sector give the marriage in june > > > > > > > 2009-apr-2010? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is SD to Venus,Sun,Moon > > > > > > > Mer is LOd in 7th hosue > > > > > > > Venus , being SD to Mercury, LOE in 12th > > > > > > > Moon is LOD in 5th.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is aspecting House B,but Mer is LoE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dear Manu, Anup and all, When Ve and Sa are in 1:7 irrespective of their points they cease to become NSD as 1:7 is opposite signs. In Navamsa we are not considering points in WS for Navamsa chart, we only take A+B+C. So in this case you are correct, that Ve and Sa cease to become NSD however Sa is in navamsa of Ve so it becomes FSD at the same time Ve is in navamsa of Aries so its SD to 6th lord. So here Sa can step in for Venus but Venus won't step in for Saturn. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Anup and Ramesh, > > Thanks for your email. I guess I did not properly read Ramesh's point > initially. Thanks for the clarification. > > My understanding is that when planets are in opposition, they stop > acting as NSDs. However, in the current case, Sa is also in navamsa of > venus. Hence, Sa should continue to be SD to ve. > > Further, in the current case both Sa and Ve have less than 4 points > hence, aspect each other benefically. I don't think this can be > treated as opposition. Maybe Ash can guide us. > > I may be wrong. Kindly correct me if this is the case. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > How come that Sat and Venus is in 1:7 > ratio and even then Venus continue to be SD to Saturn? > > Isnt this contrary to samdharmi rules as described in the lessons? > > Smthing confusing... really...??? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > My answers below. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, Anup and all, > > > You said Sa antara in Ra main will give marriage coz Sa is SD to > > Ve LoE. > > > But law states that if antara of any planet is running and that is > > aspecting either house A or B or C then that planet will not give the > > event instead their SD will come forward. > > > In this chart Sa antara is in progress and Sa aspects house C. Sa > > is in 1:7 with Ve in navamsa.Sa opposes Ve here so Sa is not SD to Ve > > here.This is first point. > > > > MANU: I have already explained this in my previous post based on my > > understanding. > > > > > Second point is that Sa is weak in WS for 2nd and 5th house so how > > Sa antara will give the event ? > > > > MANU: Ramesh, I think I have seen couple of charts with low points for > > 2nd house and 5th house, and still the antra giving marriage. Ofcourse > > I maybe wrong in my understanding or analysis. Still learning. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Hi Manu, > > > > > > Thanxs for your views. > > > What actually i wrote " it will give result according to SD (Planet X > > ) rules. > > > Here " it " word was actually refered as " antra " and not planet Y. > > > Mistake was mine:) > > > And yes, you appropriately described how a samdharmi can give result > > irrespective of its aspect on house A, B or C. > > > Many a times, we used skip a particular antra due to sight on house > > A, B or C. and never consider its SD for result. > > > Again many thanks.. > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > If I understood you correctly, I think it is just the opposite of that > > > actually. > > > > > > Say, planet X is SD to planet Y and planet X is giving result for Y > > > (due to any reason...Y aspecting A/B/C or Y antra in delay period > > > etc), then even if planet X aspects A/B/C, still it will be able to > > > give result. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > Thanxs for your analysis Manu .So > > > should we assume that when a planet X is acting as SD to any planet > > > Y(antra lord), aspect of antra lord (here Y) to the house A, B and C > > > is neglected, > > > > and it will give result according to SD (planet X)rules? > > > > Am i right? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > > > For planets when they give results due to SD-ship, we don't > check for > > > > their aspects to ABC. This is my current understanding. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > Your reasoning is equally good but Sat > > > > is aspecting house C and its weak in 5th house enabling its SD Jup > > > > to give result being LoE. > > > > > Can Saturn give results only coz its LoD in 12th house? > > > > > Did u chose this antra ...being an earliest one as delay is over? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > > > > > I would go for ra/sa 2nd sector for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > The reasons being sa is SD to ve (LOE for hs7 and highest > > > > > significator). Sa is highest significator for 12th house and LoD. > > > > > Sa is SD to ju (LoE and highest significator for hs5). > > > > > > > > > > 2nd sector because there are two zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > I would request others to kindly correct if there is any mistake. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Few more hints...... > > > > > > She never loses temper in public > > > > > > But suppress her anger & take revenge > > > > > > she does sure " revenging " > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > Can you find out if this girl likes a boy and her father is in > > > > > > oppsition to that and hence the inquiry? > > > > > > Can you tell me what is this girls field and occupation? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right that there is a zero by > > > > > > Mercury in the 7th house, which may also can drive this delay to > > > Ketu > > > > > > antra.I think, this logic is worth.I think Ash will also comment > > > upon > > > > > > this for us.Thanxs Ramesh, Sindhu for casting this chart > though we > > > > > > three have three different views upon such a case:) > > > > > > > It doesnt matter wheather we are wrong or right but > everytime we > > > > > > learn smthing of every chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Anup and Sindhu, > > > > > > > One way you might be correct timing Me antara in Ra main > > > > > > > But I have doubt in Me antara observing that Me gives zero > > in 7th > > > > > > house so Will Me be able to give the event in his antara ? > > > > > > > Why not Ke antara ? Ke is SD to Ve and Ve is LoE for 7th. > Ve is > > > > > > powerful in all the houses except 6th. > > > > > > > SAV points in 7th is very low. > > > > > > > 7th lord Ju aspects its 7th with a malefic sight. > > > > > > > 7th lord Ju is afflicted by Ra /Ke > > > > > > > 6th lord Ma occupy 7th in navamsa.Ma is in Ve navamsa .Ve is > > > NK for > > > > > > 7th. Ve is in navamsa of 6th lord. There is exchange between the > > > lords > > > > > > of 7th and 6th in navamsa. > > > > > > > Ma who is 6th lord combines with Mo the FK of 7th. > > > > > > > There is two zeros in SAV chart. > > > > > > > So after assessing all these circumstances I think delay is > > > further > > > > > > enhanced to third sector Ke antara. > > > > > > > I may be wrong also . I do not know. > > > > > > > Actually untill we get feed back from the native, it might be > > > merely > > > > > > assumption. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Sindhu, > > > > > > > Yes, Sat is in house A but also aspecting house C obviously. > > > > > > > I was saying for the Sat delay will be over in July2002 and > > after > > > > > > that Jup delay.As you are saying all delays will be over in Sat > > > antra > > > > > > which starts from Aug2006.Are you adding 4 years for Jup > plus 20% > > > > delay? > > > > > > > I go for Mer first sector due to Mercury only. > > > > > > > It can be in third sector as MD is of Rahu main and respective > > > > > > delays too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Anup, > > > > > > > In my attempt, all the delays get over by saturn > > > > > > > antra..However, I don't think Saturn antara can give > > > > > > > results not because it is in A but because it is > > > > > > > aspecting C and it is neither LOD or LOE. Mercury > > > > > > > antara can give results and since there are two zeros > > > > > > > and complete delay by Sa and Jupiter, I will go for > > > > > > > the last sector. 2011-2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hI all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another chart here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB 3rd JULY 1976 > > > > > > > > tob 04.23am > > > > > > > > lat 20N10 lati 85E42 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc 6 G 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In which antra the native may marry? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Full delay by Sat and by Jup.. > > > > > > > > Two zero in 7th hosue by MARS and Mer > > > > > > > > DBCE in lagna and Sun in ascending order > > > > > > > > 6th lord with FK(moon) in Sun navamsa and in lagna > > > > > > > > in rashi chart > > > > > > > > Lagna and 7th lord in 6:8 ratio > > > > > > > > Venus( Nk)in Mars(6th lord) navamsa > > > > > > > > Moon with 6th lord in rashi > > > > > > > > Sat delay ends in arround 15-07-2002 in rahu antra > > > > > > > > Jup delay added one year plus 20% delay added due > > > > > > > > to 2 zero > > > > > > > > Jup wont give the marriage being in house C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can Sat antra will give the marriage in 3rd > > > > > > > > sector? > > > > > > > > I think it wont as Sat is in house A.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Mer in first sector give the marriage in june > > > > > > > > 2009-apr-2010? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is SD to Venus,Sun,Moon > > > > > > > > Mer is LOd in 7th hosue > > > > > > > > Venus , being SD to Mercury, LOE in 12th > > > > > > > > Moon is LOD in 5th.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is aspecting House B,but Mer is LoE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dear all bonafide members, Thanks Ash ! To night I learnt a new thing. Though Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in navamsa they ceases to be SD to one another. I was aware of this point. Since Sa is in the navamsa of Ve despite Ve being in 7th from Sa in navamsa , Sa may step in for Ve. This new point I learnt tonight. Thank you Ash ! So in this case Sa antara in his third sector 09 Jul 2008 to 20 Jun 2009 may give the event. I thank Manu also because without his intervention it would have not been possible to come to this point. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Manu, Anup and all, When Ve and Sa are in 1:7 irrespective of their points they cease to become NSD as 1:7 is opposite signs. In Navamsa we are not considering points in WS for Navamsa chart, we only take A+B+C. So in this case you are correct, that Ve and Sa cease to become NSD however Sa is in navamsa of Ve so it becomes FSD at the same time Ve is in navamsa of Aries so its SD to 6th lord. So here Sa can step in for Venus but Venus won't step in for Saturn. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Anup and Ramesh, > > Thanks for your email. I guess I did not properly read Ramesh's point > initially. Thanks for the clarification. > > My understanding is that when planets are in opposition, they stop > acting as NSDs. However, in the current case, Sa is also in navamsa of > venus. Hence, Sa should continue to be SD to ve. > > Further, in the current case both Sa and Ve have less than 4 points > hence, aspect each other benefically. I don't think this can be > treated as opposition. Maybe Ash can guide us. > > I may be wrong. Kindly correct me if this is the case. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > How come that Sat and Venus is in 1:7 > ratio and even then Venus continue to be SD to Saturn? > > Isnt this contrary to samdharmi rules as described in the lessons? > > Smthing confusing... really...??? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > My answers below. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, Anup and all, > > > You said Sa antara in Ra main will give marriage coz Sa is SD to > > Ve LoE. > > > But law states that if antara of any planet is running and that is > > aspecting either house A or B or C then that planet will not give the > > event instead their SD will come forward. > > > In this chart Sa antara is in progress and Sa aspects house C. Sa > > is in 1:7 with Ve in navamsa.Sa opposes Ve here so Sa is not SD to Ve > > here.This is first point. > > > > MANU: I have already explained this in my previous post based on my > > understanding. > > > > > Second point is that Sa is weak in WS for 2nd and 5th house so how > > Sa antara will give the event ? > > > > MANU: Ramesh, I think I have seen couple of charts with low points for > > 2nd house and 5th house, and still the antra giving marriage. Ofcourse > > I maybe wrong in my understanding or analysis. Still learning. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Hi Manu, > > > > > > Thanxs for your views. > > > What actually i wrote " it will give result according to SD (Planet X > > ) rules. > > > Here " it " word was actually refered as " antra " and not planet Y. > > > Mistake was mine:) > > > And yes, you appropriately described how a samdharmi can give result > > irrespective of its aspect on house A, B or C. > > > Many a times, we used skip a particular antra due to sight on house > > A, B or C. and never consider its SD for result. > > > Again many thanks.. > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > If I understood you correctly, I think it is just the opposite of that > > > actually. > > > > > > Say, planet X is SD to planet Y and planet X is giving result for Y > > > (due to any reason...Y aspecting A/B/C or Y antra in delay period > > > etc), then even if planet X aspects A/B/C, still it will be able to > > > give result. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > Thanxs for your analysis Manu .So > > > should we assume that when a planet X is acting as SD to any planet > > > Y(antra lord), aspect of antra lord (here Y) to the house A, B and C > > > is neglected, > > > > and it will give result according to SD (planet X)rules? > > > > Am i right? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > > > For planets when they give results due to SD-ship, we don't > check for > > > > their aspects to ABC. This is my current understanding. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > Your reasoning is equally good but Sat > > > > is aspecting house C and its weak in 5th house enabling its SD Jup > > > > to give result being LoE. > > > > > Can Saturn give results only coz its LoD in 12th house? > > > > > Did u chose this antra ...being an earliest one as delay is over? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > > > > > I would go for ra/sa 2nd sector for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > The reasons being sa is SD to ve (LOE for hs7 and highest > > > > > significator). Sa is highest significator for 12th house and LoD. > > > > > Sa is SD to ju (LoE and highest significator for hs5). > > > > > > > > > > 2nd sector because there are two zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > I would request others to kindly correct if there is any mistake. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Few more hints...... > > > > > > She never loses temper in public > > > > > > But suppress her anger & take revenge > > > > > > she does sure " revenging " > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > Can you find out if this girl likes a boy and her father is in > > > > > > oppsition to that and hence the inquiry? > > > > > > Can you tell me what is this girls field and occupation? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right that there is a zero by > > > > > > Mercury in the 7th house, which may also can drive this delay to > > > Ketu > > > > > > antra.I think, this logic is worth.I think Ash will also comment > > > upon > > > > > > this for us.Thanxs Ramesh, Sindhu for casting this chart > though we > > > > > > three have three different views upon such a case:) > > > > > > > It doesnt matter wheather we are wrong or right but > everytime we > > > > > > learn smthing of every chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Anup and Sindhu, > > > > > > > One way you might be correct timing Me antara in Ra main > > > > > > > But I have doubt in Me antara observing that Me gives zero > > in 7th > > > > > > house so Will Me be able to give the event in his antara ? > > > > > > > Why not Ke antara ? Ke is SD to Ve and Ve is LoE for 7th. > Ve is > > > > > > powerful in all the houses except 6th. > > > > > > > SAV points in 7th is very low. > > > > > > > 7th lord Ju aspects its 7th with a malefic sight. > > > > > > > 7th lord Ju is afflicted by Ra /Ke > > > > > > > 6th lord Ma occupy 7th in navamsa.Ma is in Ve navamsa .Ve is > > > NK for > > > > > > 7th. Ve is in navamsa of 6th lord. There is exchange between the > > > lords > > > > > > of 7th and 6th in navamsa. > > > > > > > Ma who is 6th lord combines with Mo the FK of 7th. > > > > > > > There is two zeros in SAV chart. > > > > > > > So after assessing all these circumstances I think delay is > > > further > > > > > > enhanced to third sector Ke antara. > > > > > > > I may be wrong also . I do not know. > > > > > > > Actually untill we get feed back from the native, it might be > > > merely > > > > > > assumption. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Sindhu, > > > > > > > Yes, Sat is in house A but also aspecting house C obviously. > > > > > > > I was saying for the Sat delay will be over in July2002 and > > after > > > > > > that Jup delay.As you are saying all delays will be over in Sat > > > antra > > > > > > which starts from Aug2006.Are you adding 4 years for Jup > plus 20% > > > > delay? > > > > > > > I go for Mer first sector due to Mercury only. > > > > > > > It can be in third sector as MD is of Rahu main and respective > > > > > > delays too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Anup, > > > > > > > In my attempt, all the delays get over by saturn > > > > > > > antra..However, I don't think Saturn antara can give > > > > > > > results not because it is in A but because it is > > > > > > > aspecting C and it is neither LOD or LOE. Mercury > > > > > > > antara can give results and since there are two zeros > > > > > > > and complete delay by Sa and Jupiter, I will go for > > > > > > > the last sector. 2011-2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hI all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another chart here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB 3rd JULY 1976 > > > > > > > > tob 04.23am > > > > > > > > lat 20N10 lati 85E42 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc 6 G 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In which antra the native may marry? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Full delay by Sat and by Jup.. > > > > > > > > Two zero in 7th hosue by MARS and Mer > > > > > > > > DBCE in lagna and Sun in ascending order > > > > > > > > 6th lord with FK(moon) in Sun navamsa and in lagna > > > > > > > > in rashi chart > > > > > > > > Lagna and 7th lord in 6:8 ratio > > > > > > > > Venus( Nk)in Mars(6th lord) navamsa > > > > > > > > Moon with 6th lord in rashi > > > > > > > > Sat delay ends in arround 15-07-2002 in rahu antra > > > > > > > > Jup delay added one year plus 20% delay added due > > > > > > > > to 2 zero > > > > > > > > Jup wont give the marriage being in house C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can Sat antra will give the marriage in 3rd > > > > > > > > sector? > > > > > > > > I think it wont as Sat is in house A.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Mer in first sector give the marriage in june > > > > > > > > 2009-apr-2010? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is SD to Venus,Sun,Moon > > > > > > > > Mer is LOd in 7th hosue > > > > > > > > Venus , being SD to Mercury, LOE in 12th > > > > > > > > Moon is LOD in 5th.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is aspecting House B,but Mer is LoE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dear ASH, MANU, RAMESH AND ALLLLL.... Everytime i learn smthing new, i thanks Kas, Krushnaji, Ash and all associated members who enable me to learn all this.And today was another good day really:)...for all our life we will keep learning ...smthing new. We cant be perfect ...and the day wen we will...we wnt learn nymore Keep guiding us.. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear all bonafide members, Thanks Ash ! To night I learnt a new thing. Though Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in navamsa they ceases to be SD to one another. I was aware of this point. Since Sa is in the navamsa of Ve despite Ve being in 7th from Sa in navamsa , Sa may step in for Ve. This new point I learnt tonight. Thank you Ash ! So in this case Sa antara in his third sector 09 Jul 2008 to 20 Jun 2009 may give the event. I thank Manu also because without his intervention it would have not been possible to come to this point. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Manu, Anup and all, When Ve and Sa are in 1:7 irrespective of their points they cease to become NSD as 1:7 is opposite signs. In Navamsa we are not considering points in WS for Navamsa chart, we only take A+B+C. So in this case you are correct, that Ve and Sa cease to become NSD however Sa is in navamsa of Ve so it becomes FSD at the same time Ve is in navamsa of Aries so its SD to 6th lord. So here Sa can step in for Venus but Venus won't step in for Saturn. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Anup and Ramesh, > > Thanks for your email. I guess I did not properly read Ramesh's point > initially. Thanks for the clarification. > > My understanding is that when planets are in opposition, they stop > acting as NSDs. However, in the current case, Sa is also in navamsa of > venus. Hence, Sa should continue to be SD to ve. > > Further, in the current case both Sa and Ve have less than 4 points > hence, aspect each other benefically. I don't think this can be > treated as opposition. Maybe Ash can guide us. > > I may be wrong. Kindly correct me if this is the case. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > How come that Sat and Venus is in 1:7 > ratio and even then Venus continue to be SD to Saturn? > > Isnt this contrary to samdharmi rules as described in the lessons? > > Smthing confusing... really...??? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > My answers below. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, Anup and all, > > > You said Sa antara in Ra main will give marriage coz Sa is SD to > > Ve LoE. > > > But law states that if antara of any planet is running and that is > > aspecting either house A or B or C then that planet will not give the > > event instead their SD will come forward. > > > In this chart Sa antara is in progress and Sa aspects house C. Sa > > is in 1:7 with Ve in navamsa.Sa opposes Ve here so Sa is not SD to Ve > > here.This is first point. > > > > MANU: I have already explained this in my previous post based on my > > understanding. > > > > > Second point is that Sa is weak in WS for 2nd and 5th house so how > > Sa antara will give the event ? > > > > MANU: Ramesh, I think I have seen couple of charts with low points for > > 2nd house and 5th house, and still the antra giving marriage. Ofcourse > > I maybe wrong in my understanding or analysis. Still learning. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Hi Manu, > > > > > > Thanxs for your views. > > > What actually i wrote " it will give result according to SD (Planet X > > ) rules. > > > Here " it " word was actually refered as " antra " and not planet Y. > > > Mistake was mine:) > > > And yes, you appropriately described how a samdharmi can give result > > irrespective of its aspect on house A, B or C. > > > Many a times, we used skip a particular antra due to sight on house > > A, B or C. and never consider its SD for result. > > > Again many thanks.. > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > If I understood you correctly, I think it is just the opposite of that > > > actually. > > > > > > Say, planet X is SD to planet Y and planet X is giving result for Y > > > (due to any reason...Y aspecting A/B/C or Y antra in delay period > > > etc), then even if planet X aspects A/B/C, still it will be able to > > > give result. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > Thanxs for your analysis Manu .So > > > should we assume that when a planet X is acting as SD to any planet > > > Y(antra lord), aspect of antra lord (here Y) to the house A, B and C > > > is neglected, > > > > and it will give result according to SD (planet X)rules? > > > > Am i right? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > > > For planets when they give results due to SD-ship, we don't > check for > > > > their aspects to ABC. This is my current understanding. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > Your reasoning is equally good but Sat > > > > is aspecting house C and its weak in 5th house enabling its SD Jup > > > > to give result being LoE. > > > > > Can Saturn give results only coz its LoD in 12th house? > > > > > Did u chose this antra ...being an earliest one as delay is over? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > > > > > I would go for ra/sa 2nd sector for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > The reasons being sa is SD to ve (LOE for hs7 and highest > > > > > significator). Sa is highest significator for 12th house and LoD. > > > > > Sa is SD to ju (LoE and highest significator for hs5). > > > > > > > > > > 2nd sector because there are two zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > I would request others to kindly correct if there is any mistake. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Few more hints...... > > > > > > She never loses temper in public > > > > > > But suppress her anger & take revenge > > > > > > she does sure " revenging " > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > Can you find out if this girl likes a boy and her father is in > > > > > > oppsition to that and hence the inquiry? > > > > > > Can you tell me what is this girls field and occupation? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right that there is a zero by > > > > > > Mercury in the 7th house, which may also can drive this delay to > > > Ketu > > > > > > antra.I think, this logic is worth.I think Ash will also comment > > > upon > > > > > > this for us.Thanxs Ramesh, Sindhu for casting this chart > though we > > > > > > three have three different views upon such a case:) > > > > > > > It doesnt matter wheather we are wrong or right but > everytime we > > > > > > learn smthing of every chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Anup and Sindhu, > > > > > > > One way you might be correct timing Me antara in Ra main > > > > > > > But I have doubt in Me antara observing that Me gives zero > > in 7th > > > > > > house so Will Me be able to give the event in his antara ? > > > > > > > Why not Ke antara ? Ke is SD to Ve and Ve is LoE for 7th. > Ve is > > > > > > powerful in all the houses except 6th. > > > > > > > SAV points in 7th is very low. > > > > > > > 7th lord Ju aspects its 7th with a malefic sight. > > > > > > > 7th lord Ju is afflicted by Ra /Ke > > > > > > > 6th lord Ma occupy 7th in navamsa.Ma is in Ve navamsa .Ve is > > > NK for > > > > > > 7th. Ve is in navamsa of 6th lord. There is exchange between the > > > lords > > > > > > of 7th and 6th in navamsa. > > > > > > > Ma who is 6th lord combines with Mo the FK of 7th. > > > > > > > There is two zeros in SAV chart. > > > > > > > So after assessing all these circumstances I think delay is > > > further > > > > > > enhanced to third sector Ke antara. > > > > > > > I may be wrong also . I do not know. > > > > > > > Actually untill we get feed back from the native, it might be > > > merely > > > > > > assumption. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Sindhu, > > > > > > > Yes, Sat is in house A but also aspecting house C obviously. > > > > > > > I was saying for the Sat delay will be over in July2002 and > > after > > > > > > that Jup delay.As you are saying all delays will be over in Sat > > > antra > > > > > > which starts from Aug2006.Are you adding 4 years for Jup > plus 20% > > > > delay? > > > > > > > I go for Mer first sector due to Mercury only. > > > > > > > It can be in third sector as MD is of Rahu main and respective > > > > > > delays too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Anup, > > > > > > > In my attempt, all the delays get over by saturn > > > > > > > antra..However, I don't think Saturn antara can give > > > > > > > results not because it is in A but because it is > > > > > > > aspecting C and it is neither LOD or LOE. Mercury > > > > > > > antara can give results and since there are two zeros > > > > > > > and complete delay by Sa and Jupiter, I will go for > > > > > > > the last sector. 2011-2012. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hI all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another chart here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB 3rd JULY 1976 > > > > > > > > tob 04.23am > > > > > > > > lat 20N10 lati 85E42 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc 6 G 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In which antra the native may marry? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Full delay by Sat and by Jup.. > > > > > > > > Two zero in 7th hosue by MARS and Mer > > > > > > > > DBCE in lagna and Sun in ascending order > > > > > > > > 6th lord with FK(moon) in Sun navamsa and in lagna > > > > > > > > in rashi chart > > > > > > > > Lagna and 7th lord in 6:8 ratio > > > > > > > > Venus( Nk)in Mars(6th lord) navamsa > > > > > > > > Moon with 6th lord in rashi > > > > > > > > Sat delay ends in arround 15-07-2002 in rahu antra > > > > > > > > Jup delay added one year plus 20% delay added due > > > > > > > > to 2 zero > > > > > > > > Jup wont give the marriage being in house C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can Sat antra will give the marriage in 3rd > > > > > > > > sector? > > > > > > > > I think it wont as Sat is in house A.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Mer in first sector give the marriage in june > > > > > > > > 2009-apr-2010? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is SD to Venus,Sun,Moon > > > > > > > > Mer is LOd in 7th hosue > > > > > > > > Venus , being SD to Mercury, LOE in 12th > > > > > > > > Moon is LOD in 5th.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mer is aspecting House B,but Mer is LoE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 {{THIS INFO. STANDS RIGHT!}} , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Few more hints...... > She never loses temper in public > But suppress her anger & take revenge > she does sure " revenging " > > Regards > Anup > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Can you find out if this girl likes a boy and her father is in > oppsition to that and hence the inquiry? > Can you tell me what is this girls field and occupation? > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Yes, you are right that there is a zero by > Mercury in the 7th house, which may also can drive this delay to Ketu > antra.I think, this logic is worth.I think Ash will also comment upon > this for us.Thanxs Ramesh, Sindhu for casting this chart though we > three have three different views upon such a case:) > > It doesnt matter wheather we are wrong or right but everytime we > learn smthing of every chart. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Anup and Sindhu, > > One way you might be correct timing Me antara in Ra main > > But I have doubt in Me antara observing that Me gives zero in 7th > house so Will Me be able to give the event in his antara ? > > Why not Ke antara ? Ke is SD to Ve and Ve is LoE for 7th. Ve is > powerful in all the houses except 6th. > > SAV points in 7th is very low. > > 7th lord Ju aspects its 7th with a malefic sight. > > 7th lord Ju is afflicted by Ra /Ke > > 6th lord Ma occupy 7th in navamsa.Ma is in Ve navamsa .Ve is NK for > 7th. Ve is in navamsa of 6th lord. There is exchange between the lords > of 7th and 6th in navamsa. > > Ma who is 6th lord combines with Mo the FK of 7th. > > There is two zeros in SAV chart. > > So after assessing all these circumstances I think delay is further > enhanced to third sector Ke antara. > > I may be wrong also . I do not know. > > Actually untill we get feed back from the native, it might be merely > assumption. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Hi Sindhu, > > Yes, Sat is in house A but also aspecting house C obviously. > > I was saying for the Sat delay will be over in July2002 and after > that Jup delay.As you are saying all delays will be over in Sat antra > which starts from Aug2006.Are you adding 4 years for Jup plus 20% delay? > > I go for Mer first sector due to Mercury only. > > It can be in third sector as MD is of Rahu main and respective > delays too. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > Hi Anup, > > In my attempt, all the delays get over by saturn > > antra..However, I don't think Saturn antara can give > > results not because it is in A but because it is > > aspecting C and it is neither LOD or LOE. Mercury > > antara can give results and since there are two zeros > > and complete delay by Sa and Jupiter, I will go for > > the last sector. 2011-2012. > > > > Regards, > > Sindhu > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > hI all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Another chart here.... > > > > > > DOB 3rd JULY 1976 > > > tob 04.23am > > > lat 20N10 lati 85E42 IST > > > > > > Asc 6 G 38 > > > > > > In which antra the native may marry? > > > > > > Full delay by Sat and by Jup.. > > > Two zero in 7th hosue by MARS and Mer > > > DBCE in lagna and Sun in ascending order > > > 6th lord with FK(moon) in Sun navamsa and in lagna > > > in rashi chart > > > Lagna and 7th lord in 6:8 ratio > > > Venus( Nk)in Mars(6th lord) navamsa > > > Moon with 6th lord in rashi > > > Sat delay ends in arround 15-07-2002 in rahu antra > > > Jup delay added one year plus 20% delay added due > > > to 2 zero > > > Jup wont give the marriage being in house C > > > > > > Can Sat antra will give the marriage in 3rd > > > sector? > > > I think it wont as Sat is in house A.. > > > > > > Will Mer in first sector give the marriage in june > > > 2009-apr-2010? > > > > > > Mer is SD to Venus,Sun,Moon > > > Mer is LOd in 7th hosue > > > Venus , being SD to Mercury, LOE in 12th > > > Moon is LOD in 5th.. > > > > > > Mer is aspecting House B,but Mer is LoE > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani www.astronathani.com Vedic Astologer Cell +91 98672 14103 (Mumbai,India) palkim12 <palkim12 vedic astrology Tuesday, 12 February, 2008 5:03:18 PM [vedic astrology] delayed marriage namasthe guruji MY daughter is a doctor working in the uk.Her marriage is getting delayed.recently her younger sister got married.we are very much worried.when will she get married? D-O-B 19 NOVEMBER 1976. PLACE-BELIZECITY( 88:12W,17: 30N). COUNTRY-BELIZE. TIME-4:42AM. with regards. worried mother. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to http://in.promos./groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Dear Pushpa Deshpande If u r looking for a doctor husband for ur daughter, then u will hv to wait for some more time. After July 2009, ur daughter will meet someone, who will be a doctor, in her place of work, with whom she will fall in love & get married.  With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) pushpa deshpande <palkim12 vedic astrology Tuesday, 16 September, 2008 6:36:21 PM [vedic astrology] delayed marriage dear friends        my daughter is a doctor working in the uk..we are looking for a suitable doctor groom for her.but it is getting delayed.when will she get married?arranged or love marriage? d-0-b 19 th november 1976. place-belizecity( 88:12w,17: 30n). country-belize. time-4:42am. time zone -6hrs. thanks with regards. worried mother. Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 After july 2009 she has a chance of getting married pushpa deshpande <palkim12 wrote: dear friends my daughter is a doctor working in the uk.we are looking for a suitable doctor groom for her.but it is getting delayed.when will she get married?arranged or love marriage? d-0-b 19 th november 1976. place-belizecity(88:12w,17:30n). country-belize. time-4:42am. time zone -6hrs. thanks with regards. worried mother. Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Dear Pushpa, Your daughter would be getting married next year -mid to end of the year (best time). She would be married to a person from some other caste or a foreigner. It is possible that your daughter may marry the person from her profession, if you are precisely looking for a doctor I feel a psycologist or doctor related to philosophical subjects might be the best choice. If you have any particular person whom you are looking at as a possible choice you may get in touch with me. I feel she might have got some offers at the age of 28 or 31, else 34 is the next good figure. The man could possibly be from a software engineering or teaching or research background as well. Thanks, Barenya Mishra - www.askyourastroquery.com --- On Tue, 16/9/08, pushpa deshpande <palkim12 wrote: pushpa deshpande <palkim12 [vedic astrology] delayed marriage vedic astrology Tuesday, 16 September, 2008, 6:36 PM dear friends        my daughter is a doctor working in the uk.we are looking for a suitable doctor groom for her.but it is getting delayed.when will she get married?arranged or love marriage? d-0-b 19 th november 1976. place-belizecity( 88:12w,17: 30n). country-belize. time-4:42am. time zone -6hrs. thanks with regards. worried mother. Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Dear Biswa Ur lagna has ketu with rahu in ur 7th house, sani in ur 5th house having its aspect to ur 7th house. Rahu, ketu & sani always delay the marragies, ur ketu/rahu dasha is also going on. If u even happen to get married now it will result in divorce. Ur ketu MD will get over in dec 2011. The shukra dasha which starts in jan 2012 will be an ideal time for u to get married. However the antar dasha of rahu, ketu, sani in shukra will always disturb ur marraige & may also give divorce.  GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT INSURANCE ADVISOR CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA)  ________________________________ brpban <brpban vedic astrology Thursday, 13 November, 2008 3:06:27 PM [vedic astrology] delayed marriage Dear Gurus, Kindly have a look on my kundali. I have a question regarding my marriage. Why my marriage is delayed, when will it happen and how would be my married life and spouse. Please answer. name- biswa (male) DOB-28.06.1977 pOB- Baripada (orissa)21n56 86e43 TOB-11.50pm Thanks & regards BISWA Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 this is a chart of girl who is constantly saying no to marriage, nov8,1979, 00.56 , aurangabad(maharashatra) ther are two major curses in chart where significator for husband jup is involved in a brahmin curse, the curse on ven is also there, curently she is under jup-mars period & mer moola dasa is running , regards shan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Dear Shan. Namaskar. Please confirm if there is a problem in a relationship at office front. Best Regards Ashish. , " shan_chou2000 " <shan_chou2000 wrote: > > this is a chart of girl who is constantly saying no to marriage, > nov8,1979, 00.56 , aurangabad(maharashatra) > ther are two major curses in chart where significator for husband jup is involved in a brahmin curse, the curse on ven is also there, curently she is under jup-mars period & mer moola dasa is running , > regards > shan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 , " Ashish " <bondmerama wrote: > > Dear Shan. > Namaskar. > Please confirm if there is a problem in a relationship at office front. > Best Regards > Ashish. > > , " shan_chou2000 " <shan_chou2000@> wrote: > > > > this is a chart of girl who is constantly saying no to marriage, > > nov8,1979, 00.56 , aurangabad(maharashatra) > > ther are two major curses in chart where significator for husband jup is involved in a brahmin curse, the curse on ven is also there, curently she is under jup-mars period & mer moola dasa is running , > > regards > > shan > > > there are problems at profession also, but marriae is not happening , her father is very worried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Dear Shan, Namaskar. There is possibiltity of love marriage,but a conflicted one. Best Regards Ashish. , " shan_chou2000 " <shan_chou2000 wrote: > > > > , " Ashish " <bondmerama@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shan. > > Namaskar. > > Please confirm if there is a problem in a relationship at office front. > > Best Regards > > Ashish. > > > > , " shan_chou2000 " <shan_chou2000@> wrote: > > > > > > this is a chart of girl who is constantly saying no to marriage, > > > nov8,1979, 00.56 , aurangabad(maharashatra) > > > ther are two major curses in chart where significator for husband jup is involved in a brahmin curse, the curse on ven is also there, curently she is under jup-mars period & mer moola dasa is running , > > > regards > > > shan > > > > > > there are problems at profession also, but marriae is not happening , her father is very worried > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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