Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Beatrice, You have also seen the further exchanges on that initial letter of Goravani that I had with Rolf. Just because I quoted a sloka does not mean that I supported all that stuff Raghu wrote. I was just telling him that it is good to have faith in Krishna, but with the real objective of cleansing oneself " Samasta Paapa Khandanam... " . Many people in the west have visualised this as destruction of bad people whereas Paapa refers to one's own sins. In fact I also told Rolf about how much I admire Maharishi and TM, and mentioned some very fine people associated with TM with whom I have had a great time. Tapani is no representative of the TM Movement, at least at present and he needs to personally evolve. Education cannot be a business. This business/barter concept is basically western. Commitment is completely personal. Commitment can be to some cause, to the knowledge, to the teacher or to anything that the individual symbolises as an aspect of the ideal goal. Most Diksha Guru's in the west demand a personal commitment. This is not correct. Surrender must be to God and not to any individual. The Atma is independant and must remain so till Yoga with the Paramatma. Guru, whether Siksha or Diksha is a medium for this Yoga. Thus, the individual is symbolised by the Beejakshara " Hrim " , the Guru by " Shrim " and Isa by " Kleem " , giving the vital mantra " Hrim Shrim Kleem " . Expectation can be different from reality and I do not expect anything. That is the only way that there can be no sorrow in the relationship. Sorrow comes due to misplaced expectations. That is the difference between the two types of learning Para-Vidya and Apara-Vidya. There is no point in any relationship of teacher & taught till the primary thinking is changed from the business/barter system to one of Universal expansion. That is the only way to get and give Para-Vidya (True spiritual knowledge-Jyotish is a Vedanga), else the transfer of knowledge & its growth, if done by means of money or any other form of exchange is largely in a warped or obstructed form. That is why the donation given by the student is in the form of Guru Dakshina and the Guru receives it in the form of DakshinaMurti or the Holy fire that burns the sins (Dakshinamurti is the form of Lord Shiva holding the holy fire to burn the sins). If you go to the SJVC site www.sjvc.net you will see how the two flames are burning on the sides of Sri Jagannath for burning sins and giving the light of knowledge. If the Guru is a female, then she is akin to Dakshina Kali. " Isa " is different as He recieves the prayers and sacrifices and is Narayana or the destiny or Goal of the individual. The " Dakshina " can be anything from money to some work or prayer or teaching others etc. It must come from within the individual and not from outside. Thus, Narasimha gave his Dakshina in the form of a computer program, Yasomati Nandana in the form of translating the Jaimini Sutra into Russian Language, Sarat in the form of Editing the Jyotish News. The giving is not at all important and whether they do so or not does not matter atall to me. What matters is that SJVC should be a vehicle to re-establish true Jyotish. I am sending a copy of this to the classroom for the benefit of all my students. Om Tat Sat Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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