The Roswell Incident

February 4, 2001

Dear Visti,

Before answering your question, I have some observations and comments to offer:-

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"Visti Larsen" <vlarsen

Friday, February 02, 2001 9:31 PM

[sri Guru] The Roswell Incident

Om Namo Narayanaya4th July 1947, a peculiar event happened in Roswell New Mexico, thats been questioned for quite some time.The Solar Ingress into Capricorn in Roswell, New Mexico was;Date of Birth: January 13, 1947Time of Birth: 8:03:00 pmTime Zone of Birth: 7:00 West of GMTLongitude of Birth: 104 W 31Latitude of Birth: 33 N 46+----------------------+| | | | || | | | || | | Rah | || | | | || | | | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| | | SatR || | | || | | BL || | | || | | Glk ||-------------| R A S I |-------------|| | | || | | Mnd || HL | | || | | Asc || | | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| Mer | | | || | Ven | Moo | || Mar | | | GL || | Ket | Jup | || Sun | | | |+----------------------+The event took place slightly north to Roswell in a farming town called Rachel, which I unfortunately do not have the coordinates for at present, however the above chart seems to explain the event well.The aledged event was said to have been a crash of a peculiar aircraft.Airoplane crashes and other disasters are seen from Rudramsa however Rasi should also be examined:Rath: I really cannot see why the Rudramsa has to be seen for this as is this a natural calamity like earthquake or fire or maybe public outrage like a revolution. The trimsamsa would be a better chart to examine the event.

Lagna lord is in Sag, with Mercury and 4th lord. This may have been a succesfull year for the Roswell Militia's war experiments and endeavors in general. 4th house has 3rd and 10th lord conjunct Ketu showing the work of secret organisations, at hand in the work of recovering disasters(Retro-Saturn aspecting from 12th house).Rath: Is this an annual chart? If not how can we say that this was a good year for the experiment for anybody? Lagnesh being the sun will indicate birds and aeroplanes would fit into the category given the fact that the planets Mars (Engineering) and Mercury (Mechanics) conjoin. Where is the disaster indicated? First indicate that and then the work of recovering the same. Venus & Ketu will not indicate the air disaster as Venus the Karaka for Vehicles conjoins co-lord of the 4th house thereby indicating a very fine and very advanced vehicle for air travel (Ketu indicates the aerial direction).Exalted Rahu aspects both Jupiter and Moon in a weak Gajakesari Yoga. Upapada and A6, are also posited here.Guru-Chandala and Shakti Yoga arises from the powerfully Malefic Rahu showing that Breakages of contracts and trust will occur form anything the Shakti Yoga touches. Jupiter is 5th lord, which shows the common civilians of the town, who's trust will be defied.. Also one can expect death surrounding some people due to this.Rath: If evil Rahu is aspecting the Upapada, then this will afflict marriage..not the point here. Coming to A^, this combination will be bad for enemies. So, this is good for the vehicle concerned. Guru-chandala is neither influencing the first nor AL. Shakti Yoga is not present in the chart. Jupiter as 5th Lord will show the civilians ONLY IF this chart is for mundane matters. When the chart is for a vehicle, then the fifth cannot show the people of the town.Mandi is in lagna, along with Guru and Putra Pada, showing that the town will poison itself, and others will loose trust in them. Jupiter excerts Pachak on its own 8th house showing that it will cause disasters. 8th from Lagna is also 12th from Arudha Lagna thus confirming this.Rath: You have indicated Jupiter as a culprit, but have not been able to give a strong reason. As the 8th Lord in 3rd, it causes Vipareeta Rajyoga. This is not bad and with the 12th Lord Moon, this is actually very good Vipareeta rajyoga. You use the term Pachak. Kindly elaborate. The REAL REASON is that guru is in Marana Karaka Sthana being in the 3rd from Lagna and when Jupiter is in such an evil position, then there shall be a TERRIBLE FIRE. The houses owned by Guru shall bring terrible death. Here the Lagna Lord sun Mars and Mercury conjoin (Mechanical-Bird Aeroplane) showing that the cause of the terrible fire shall be the mechanical bird. The sign Sagittarius generally indicates disasters connected with falling from a height. Thus the Mechanical Bird must have fallen from a height and caused a Terible fire. This is the real indication of the disaster.Moon shows the direction of the bad yoga, occuring to the North-West.Rath: Why should Moon show the direction? Do elaborate the reasons behind your observations.The Compressed (1 year) Narayana Dasa of Mesha was running from: 17th June 1947 - 7th July 1947, which contains the Arudha Lagna, and is 7th from the yoga, causing the adverse effects stated.(D-1 Narayana Dasa of Mesha began, 17th June 1947 1:26:58 PM)It was a military officer named Jesse Marcel, that had given a very outstanding report on a newly visited crash site, North of Roswell. The initial statement was that a disc-like object from foreign origin had crashed, and was supposedly out of this world.Rath: Do you have his chart?The Crash itself is seen from the Rudramsa:+----------------------+| | | | BL || | | SatR | || GL | Mer | | Mar || | | HL | || | | | Sun ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| Asc | | || | | || Ven | | || | | || Ket | | ||-------------| D - 1 1 |-------------|| | | || | | Rah || Mnd | | || | | Jup || | | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| | | | || | | | || | | Moo | Glk || | | | || | | | |+----------------------+1st and 4th lords exchange houses, whilst 4th lord is conjunct secret 10th lord Ketu, in the airy house of Aquarius, showing the airy vehicles confusement and later crash. This actually also produces a Dharma-Karmadipahti Yoga, showing that the events dealing with this unfortunate disaster will highten awareness in the world.Again as in Rasi, Guru-Chandala and Shakti Yoga are produced, only the alleviating aspect of Cancer has been denied this time. Rahu and Sag are the natural indicators of Space; Guru and Rahu conjunct with the 4th Arudha Pada showing that the Maya surrounding the Craft is as they said; "Out of this world". Guru also being lord of Ghati Lagna, shows the great problems dealing with this incident, in which the town became famous.The event happened during the D-11 Narayana Dasa of Kumbha.Rath: Narayana Dasa is not preferred in Rudramsa. Stick to Jaimini's advise of using Mandooka Dasa in D-11.Secret military agencies were said to have been involved in recovering the craft and keeping it very hush-hush, to ensure "national security". Many towns people were said to have been threatened by government personel. The incident caused so much hysteria, that even today people are uncertain what exactly happened.So my question is to the gifted people of this board.. What type of aircraft was this? The Arudha Pada of the 4th house shows Maya surrounding the craft, however is it alegable to show the truth?Rath: Use the Trimsamsa and see the answer to the question.Best wishes, Visti.

Good attempt Visti. You try very hard. Keep it up.

Sanjay Rath