Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Om namaste Ganapataye Dear Bojan, it is probably typo, but never mind, if you take 0 for "na" you get the same result-you get 10, reverse is 01 and when divide by 12 reminder is 1, the same as when you take 6 for "ta". If I saw well it is sutra 22, not 23? Best wishes, Voja sohamsa , "Bojan Vidakovic" <janbovid wrote:>> HARE RAMA KRISHNA> Dear Guruji and list members, I am doing Jaimini Upadesa and in > Chapetr I, 1.3.23. there is written PATNI and number that is got is 61 > adnd remainder is 1, My question is why have you took t - 6, and not > na 0, hence it is half letter? Best wishes, Bojan> OM TAT SAT> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 HARE RAMA KRISHNA Dear Voja, thank you. Yes it is sutra 22, but anyway these two are very connected, second one explains previous...It is clear that we are coming to the same result, but the thing I am interested in is why Guruji took ta instead of na? He used ta also in sutra 1.3.25 , 2.4.26, 3.3.10 etc, maybe it was typo, but maybe not...Best wishes, Bojan OM TAT SAT --- Voya Traykovic <vojatrajananda wrote: > > Om namaste Ganapataye > > Dear Bojan, > > it is probably typo, but never mind, if you take 0 > for " na " you get the > same result-you get 10, reverse is 01 and when > divide by 12 reminder is > 1, the same as when you take 6 for " ta " . If I saw > well it is sutra 22, > not 23? > > Best wishes, > > Voja > > > sohamsa , " Bojan Vidakovic " > <janbovid wrote: > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > Dear Guruji and list members, I am doing Jaimini > Upadesa and in > > Chapetr I, 1.3.23. there is written PATNI and > number that is got is 61 > > adnd remainder is 1, My question is why have you > took t - 6, and not > > na 0, hence it is half letter? Best wishes, Bojan > > OM TAT SAT > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Sarbani Ji,Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha.Guru is Sarveshwara,so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Dear Ramdasji,We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very common under such circumstances although people may have their personal problems alleviating.Sarbani RathSent from my iPhoneOn 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Sarbani Ji,Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha.Guru is Sarveshwara,so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Hi Sarbani ji, Wonderful of you to take time and reply over on iPhone. But i think the jist of what Mr. Rao said was saying, not to use the Guru Chandala yoga for clarifying your ongoing position on " Jaimini " classes. Plus going by your rationale of accepting Guru is chasing Rahu...you can understand what readers should think? Lets take a cue from Sanjay ji and concentrate on what is required. He is a wonderful teacher , great spokesman and done great service to astro community by sharing his knowledge and view points which is a rare quality expressed by scholars of our era. So he has his own reservations to teach ppl of his choice and that should be appreciated.So request you to keep him out of this. For all others i would say , with all due regards world did not end with Jaimini nor did it start with him , there are lots of things to learn and apply. Most of the astrologers in our times use a mix of technique.There are so many wonderful avenues available (KAS, KP, Naadi technique,Kerala PrasnaMargam, even the astounding Card Reader of South India). Nothing substitutes practice , application and sharing. No offence or malice towards anybody. Krishna, Krishna, Krishna sohamsa , Sarbani Rath <sarbani wrote: > > Dear Ramdasji, > We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru > chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru > is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send > across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists > and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very > common under such circumstances although people may have their > personal problems alleviating. > Sarbani Rath > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja > wrote: > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH > > Dear Sarbani Ji, > > Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is > > in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha.Guru is > > Sarveshwara,so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra > > ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also > > presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in > > Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So > > Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala > > Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in > > Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October > > and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in > > Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So > > Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of > > Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on > > 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the > > Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka > > Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event > > which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely > > different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to > > Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place > > which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the > > clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha > > or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say > > there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any > > kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. > > With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath > > <sarbani wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Om Rishibhyo Namah > > > > Dear Sohamsa List, > > > > There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works > > of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology > > disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the > > Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upad > > esha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani Rath > > > > Homepage: http://sarbani.com > > > > Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Shortcut, I am not making any clarifications with respect to Sanjayji’s Jaimini classes. I simply attempted to reply to some acrimonoius emails, which were trying to force some sort of an “SJC Standâ€. I never quite understood what all this was about . But I am taking a cue from Sanjayji. He says that the knowledge of the rishis will be attacked from time to time and it is not unusual under the circumstances. I will not reiterate what I wrote in reply to Ramdasji. You may read it to see my views on the matter. And no Sanjayji cannot be left out of this. This whole thing was about him, you see. It had nothing to do with SJC. What IS required, is to stop these discussions. So please don’t reply to me on this subject. I am open to any non-personalised jyotish discussions, which is a much more fruitful time consumption, to which I am very sure, you will agree. p.s. Sanjayji’s Jaimini Classes were open to all. Finally 26 people were chosen from the applicants. But everyone was free to apply and it was well advertised by him. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of shortcut 09 August 2009 10:57 sohamsa Re: Jaimini Hi Sarbani ji, Wonderful of you to take time and reply over on iPhone. But i think the jist of what Mr. Rao said was saying, not to use the Guru Chandala yoga for clarifying your ongoing position on " Jaimini " classes. Plus going by your rationale of accepting Guru is chasing Rahu...you can understand what readers should think? Lets take a cue from Sanjay ji and concentrate on what is required. He is a wonderful teacher , great spokesman and done great service to astro community by sharing his knowledge and view points which is a rare quality expressed by scholars of our era. So he has his own reservations to teach ppl of his choice and that should be appreciated.So request you to keep him out of this. For all others i would say , with all due regards world did not end with Jaimini nor did it start with him , there are lots of things to learn and apply. Most of the astrologers in our times use a mix of technique.There are so many wonderful avenues available (KAS, KP, Naadi technique,Kerala PrasnaMargam, even the astounding Card Reader of South India). Nothing substitutes practice , application and sharing. No offence or malice towards anybody. Krishna, Krishna, Krishna sohamsa , Sarbani Rath <sarbani wrote: > > Dear Ramdasji, > We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru > chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru > is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send > across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists > and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very > common under such circumstances although people may have their > personal problems alleviating. > Sarbani Rath > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja > wrote: > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH > > Dear Sarbani Ji, > > Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is > > in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha.Guru is > > Sarveshwara,so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra > > ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also > > presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in > > Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So > > Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala > > Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in > > Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October > > and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in > > Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So > > Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of > > Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on > > 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the > > Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka > > Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event > > which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely > > different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to > > Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place > > which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the > > clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha > > or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say > > there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any > > kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. > > With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath > > <sarbani wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Om Rishibhyo Namah > > > > Dear Sohamsa List, > > > > There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works > > of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology > > disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the > > Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upad > > esha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani Rath > > > > Homepage: http://sarbani.com > > > > Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Dear Sarbani Ji,I think one of the members of this list has expressed his views about commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which I also feel that we have to go through such available commentaries and try to get all the informations.I have a great respect for the learned people.Just like Sanjay Ji,Shri Iranganti Rangacharya is also an expert in Jaimini Jyotish.He is also called as Mahamahopadyaya .I read all of his articles published in the Astrological Magazine many years before.All of his articles are educative and self illustrative.You can go through his older articles in that Magazine.Also we have Sri K.N.Rao who has his own views about Jaimini Jyotish.We should not neglect any of the ancient Jyotish writers like Shri Krishna Mishra,his son Somanatha,Nilakantha,Nrisihma Suri,Shri Raghava Bhatta etc.There may be some more commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which we may not know until now and we have to do research on such expert commentaries. So we have to read such commentaries and apply the principles mentioned therein and see the results.I am sure we will get good results.With Regards, Ramadas Rao.On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani wrote: Dear Ramdasji,We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very common under such circumstances although people may have their personal problems alleviating. Sarbani RathSent from my iPhoneOn 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Sarbani Ji,Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha.Guru is Sarveshwara,so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear All, Excuse me for adding a line or two on the current discussions. Debating this and that is fine, but one thing people seem to be forgetting entirely is that this was created by Sanjay Rath. This is from the home page of this discussion group " "This is an open forum for vedic astrologers to discuss the techniques of Parasara, Jaimini and other as taught by Pt.Sanjay Rath. You are welcome to join and share in the knowledge and are expected to maintain decorum." It's his arena, so when you are in another persons house, business, temple, or whatever , guests should be mindful of where they are , and who they are talking , and HOW they are talking to that person. If people have a problem or issue with something here, I say, start your own and get into it on your group. In the mean time , forgive us(me) if some of us get a little irritated when others come into (Sanjays and his students) arena of SOHAMSA or whatever and start trying to argue/disagree in a rude way, and in some cases,, stuff someone elses or their gurus perspective onto us. And also please dont think you are going to make Sanjay jump or explain, or justify his teaching. If he feels like it he will, if you dont like it ,or want to learn some different, go elsewhere. A scholarly discussion is one thing , but just using this group as a way to throw insults is all wrong. Best wishes Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Ramdasji,I am replying to this because this mail is from you. There is no disagreement at all with what you write. In fact I am not even involved in these discussions. So I don't know why you should write this mail to me.I merely got involved because some member was repeatedly writing about a certain "SJC stand". Because this was bandied about so many times in acrimony I had to gently point them to the preface of Sanjayji's book. To be very frank, I do not understand what they were talking about, why there was so much acrimony, why they were forcing some sort of a stand from us. Even after we tried to explain, they continued to be rude, saying our replies were "stupid" and that we did not know what SJC's stand was. This whole conversation was ridiculous, trivial and a waste of time. In fact, it was not an attack on us but an attack on the works of the rishis. As you see it has nothing to do with what you write below. None of us are involved in any discussions related to the jaimini sutras on these lists.Sarbani Rath Sent from my iPhoneOn 09-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote: Dear Sarbani Ji,I think one of the members of this list has expressed his views about commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which I also feel that we have to go through such available commentaries and try to get all the informations.I have a great respect for the learned people.Just like Sanjay Ji,Shri Iranganti Rangacharya is also an expert in Jaimini Jyotish.He is also called as Mahamahopadyaya .I read all of his articles published in the Astrological Magazine many years before.All of his articles are educative and self illustrative.You can go through his older articles in that Magazine.Also we have Sri K.N.Rao who has his own views about Jaimini Jyotish.We should not neglect any of the ancient Jyotish writers like Shri Krishna Mishra,his son Somanatha,Nilakantha,Nrisihma Suri,Shri Raghava Bhatta etc.There may be some more commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which we may not know until now and we have to do research on such expert commentaries. So we have to read such commentaries and apply the principles mentioned therein and see the results.I am sure we will get good results.With Regards, Ramadas Rao.On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Ramdasji,We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very common under such circumstances although people may have their personal problems alleviating. Sarbani RathSent from my iPhoneOn 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja > wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Sarbani Ji,Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha.Guru is Sarveshwara,so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Hare Rama Krsna One can read all the available commentaries, especially if they have a clear mind and can remember what each commentator has said, all the variability’s, take the time to test all these various techniques, and remember what works for them and still be clear about who believes what in scholarly circles.. This is a very high path indeed for one who has the time and intelligence.. Guruji (Sri Sanjay Rath) has read all these commentaries, understood them, tested them, (has rare commentaries not available to the average public), and has the teaching of a living lineage (Parampara) of Jaimini which he was born into and is required to continue. Sanjay’s family lineage was invited to Orissa by the King of Puri because of their jnana. When Guruji teaches, he mentions the various opinions held by other authors, shows his traditions views and uses logic to show why his tradition believes what it does. He uses the shlokas themselves (previous shlokas/concepts), other available texts, and his experience with multiple example charts to show how the sutras work. And to the serious student when you have understood a sutra from Guruji, you are also aware of other opinions (which Guruji always mentions) and can test these right then and there as Guruji teaches. I am a serious scholar, but I have still not fully digested all the Jaimini teachings of Guruji to have any need to read some other commentaries. And by studying the books and books of notes I have from Guruji’s lectures, I am well aware of Nilakantha, Rangacharya, etc and their various divergent opinions from Guruji’s lineage. Sri Achyutananda has taught that there are endless books and teachings in this world but that we must be like Sarasvati’s swan and drink the milk not the water. Guruji has never discouraged anyone from going above and beyond and studying all available literature. He has never limited knowledge, nor been possessive or unreasonably secretive with the giving of his knowledge. But at the same time, it is very rajasic to study other commentaries when you have not fully understood your own guru’s. “One of the members of this list has expressed his viewsâ€, but his words reveal a lack of proper respect for the very host of the forum he has spoken within. It is wonderful that you agree with him. People are welcome to give their opinions, and to receive the opinions of others with respect for each other. Namah Shivaya Freedom Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotrajasohamsa Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 11:11:21 AMRe: Jaimini Dear Sarbani Ji, I think one of the members of this list has expressed his views about commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which I also feel that we have to go through such available commentaries and try to get all the informations. I have a great respect for the learned people..Just like Sanjay Ji,Shri Iranganti Rangacharya is also an expert in Jaimini Jyotish.He is also called as Mahamahopadyaya .I read all of his articles published in the Astrological Magazine many years before.All of his articles are educative and self illustrative. You can go through his older articles in that Magazine.Also we have Sri K.N.Rao who has his own views about Jaimini Jyotish.We should not neglect any of the ancient Jyotish writers like Shri Krishna Mishra,his son Somanatha,Nilakanth a,Nrisihma Suri,Shri Raghava Bhatta etc.There may be some more commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which we may not know until now and we have to do research on such expert commentaries. So we have to read such commentaries and apply the principles mentioned therein and see the results.I am sure we will get good results. With Regards, Ramadas Rao. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org> wrote: Dear Ramdasji, We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very common under such circumstances although people may have their personal problems alleviating. Sarbani RathSent from my iPhone On 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja@ gmail.com> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH Dear Sarbani Ji, Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha. Guru is Sarveshwara, so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications. com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHOn Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Freedomji <freeflowaum wrote: Hare Rama Krsna One can read all the available commentaries, especially if they have a clear mind and can remember what each commentator has said, all the variability’s, take the time to test all these various techniques, and remember what works for them and still be clear about who believes what in scholarly circles.. This is a very high path indeed for one who has the time and intelligence.. Guruji (Sri Sanjay Rath) has read all these commentaries, understood them, tested them, (has rare commentaries not available to the average public), and has the teaching of a living lineage (Parampara) of Jaimini which he was born into and is required to continue. Sanjay’s family lineage was invited to Orissa by the King of Puri because of their jnana. When Guruji teaches, he mentions the various opinions held by other authors, shows his traditions views and uses logic to show why his tradition believes what it does. He uses the shlokas themselves (previous shlokas/concepts), other available texts, and his experience with multiple example charts to show how the sutras work. And to the serious student when you have understood a sutra from Guruji, you are also aware of other opinions (which Guruji always mentions) and can test these right then and there as Guruji teaches. I am a serious scholar, but I have still not fully digested all the Jaimini teachings of Guruji to have any need to read some other commentaries. And by studying the books and books of notes I have from Guruji’s lectures, I am well aware of Nilakantha, Rangacharya, etc and their various divergent opinions from Guruji’s lineage. Sri Achyutananda has taught that there are endless books and teachings in this world but that we must be like Sarasvati’s swan and drink the milk not the water. Guruji has never discouraged anyone from going above and beyond and studying all available literature. He has never limited knowledge, nor been possessive or unreasonably secretive with the giving of his knowledge. But at the same time, it is very rajasic to study other commentaries when you have not fully understood your own guru’s. “One of the members of this list has expressed his views”, but his words reveal a lack of proper respect for the very host of the forum he has spoken within. It is wonderful that you agree with him. People are welcome to give their opinions, and to receive the opinions of others with respect for each other. Namah Shivaya Freedom Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotrajasohamsa Sunday, August 9, 2009 11:11:21 AMRe: Jaimini Dear Sarbani Ji, I think one of the members of this list has expressed his views about commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which I also feel that we have to go through such available commentaries and try to get all the informations. I have a great respect for the learned people..Just like Sanjay Ji,Shri Iranganti Rangacharya is also an expert in Jaimini Jyotish.He is also called as Mahamahopadyaya .I read all of his articles published in the Astrological Magazine many years before.All of his articles are educative and self illustrative. You can go through his older articles in that Magazine.Also we have Sri K.N.Rao who has his own views about Jaimini Jyotish.We should not neglect any of the ancient Jyotish writers like Shri Krishna Mishra,his son Somanatha,Nilakanth a,Nrisihma Suri,Shri Raghava Bhatta etc.There may be some more commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which we may not know until now and we have to do research on such expert commentaries. So we have to read such commentaries and apply the principles mentioned therein and see the results.I am sure we will get good results. With Regards, Ramadas Rao. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org> wrote: Dear Ramdasji, We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very common under such circumstances although people may have their personal problems alleviating. Sarbani RathSent from my iPhone On 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja@ gmail.com> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH Dear Sarbani Ji, Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha. Guru is Sarveshwara, so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications. com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Learned members of this list,I never wrote anything against Sanjay Ji.A good hearted Astrologer will respect another Astrologer of the same caliber and discuss some of the crucial matters.There is no reason get angry with me at all.For me all learned Astrologers are same and I respect everybody.Suppose if I meet such Astrologers, I always question them with certain debatable queries which will enable me to gain more knowledge.Astrology is like an ocean and how much one learns it will not end and one finds more and more new theories,new Shlokas and so one who is interested to learn will surely ask queries pertaining to such new thoeries.I just mentioned the names of such great Astrologers like our Sanjay Ji.Is it a mistake from my part or is it wrong to mention the name of such great Astrologers ?? With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHOn Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Freedomji <freeflowaum wrote: Hare Rama Krsna One can read all the available commentaries, especially if they have a clear mind and can remember what each commentator has said, all the variability’s, take the time to test all these various techniques, and remember what works for them and still be clear about who believes what in scholarly circles.. This is a very high path indeed for one who has the time and intelligence.. Guruji (Sri Sanjay Rath) has read all these commentaries, understood them, tested them, (has rare commentaries not available to the average public), and has the teaching of a living lineage (Parampara) of Jaimini which he was born into and is required to continue. Sanjay’s family lineage was invited to Orissa by the King of Puri because of their jnana. When Guruji teaches, he mentions the various opinions held by other authors, shows his traditions views and uses logic to show why his tradition believes what it does. He uses the shlokas themselves (previous shlokas/concepts), other available texts, and his experience with multiple example charts to show how the sutras work. And to the serious student when you have understood a sutra from Guruji, you are also aware of other opinions (which Guruji always mentions) and can test these right then and there as Guruji teaches. I am a serious scholar, but I have still not fully digested all the Jaimini teachings of Guruji to have any need to read some other commentaries. And by studying the books and books of notes I have from Guruji’s lectures, I am well aware of Nilakantha, Rangacharya, etc and their various divergent opinions from Guruji’s lineage. Sri Achyutananda has taught that there are endless books and teachings in this world but that we must be like Sarasvati’s swan and drink the milk not the water. Guruji has never discouraged anyone from going above and beyond and studying all available literature. He has never limited knowledge, nor been possessive or unreasonably secretive with the giving of his knowledge. But at the same time, it is very rajasic to study other commentaries when you have not fully understood your own guru’s. “One of the members of this list has expressed his views”, but his words reveal a lack of proper respect for the very host of the forum he has spoken within. It is wonderful that you agree with him. People are welcome to give their opinions, and to receive the opinions of others with respect for each other. Namah Shivaya Freedom Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotrajasohamsa Sunday, August 9, 2009 11:11:21 AMRe: Jaimini Dear Sarbani Ji, I think one of the members of this list has expressed his views about commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which I also feel that we have to go through such available commentaries and try to get all the informations. I have a great respect for the learned people..Just like Sanjay Ji,Shri Iranganti Rangacharya is also an expert in Jaimini Jyotish.He is also called as Mahamahopadyaya .I read all of his articles published in the Astrological Magazine many years before.All of his articles are educative and self illustrative. You can go through his older articles in that Magazine.Also we have Sri K.N.Rao who has his own views about Jaimini Jyotish.We should not neglect any of the ancient Jyotish writers like Shri Krishna Mishra,his son Somanatha,Nilakanth a,Nrisihma Suri,Shri Raghava Bhatta etc.There may be some more commentaries on Jaimini Sutras which we may not know until now and we have to do research on such expert commentaries. So we have to read such commentaries and apply the principles mentioned therein and see the results.I am sure we will get good results. With Regards, Ramadas Rao. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org> wrote: Dear Ramdasji, We too follow longitudes quite strictly. The worst period of guru chandal was over by 13th February if I remember correctly. Indeed guru is chasing Rahu now ! No doubts on that. My intention was to send across a message reminding that nevertheless the conjunction exists and we should not forget that. Attacks on the works of rishis is very common under such circumstances although people may have their personal problems alleviating. Sarbani RathSent from my iPhone On 08-Aug-09, at 23:41, Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja@ gmail.com> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH Dear Sarbani Ji, Namaste.Regarding Guru -Chandala Yoga,presently Guru is Vakra and is in Makara Rashi which is called as Eshvaramsha. Guru is Sarveshwara, so he is indicative of Lord Eshwara and Guru is Vakra ie., He is chasing Rahu who is retrograding towards Dhanu Rashi.Also presently Vakra Guru is in Dhanishta-2 nd Pada and Rahu is in Uttarashada -3rd Pada.THis means Lord Shiva is chasing Demon Rahu.So Guru is now more powerful and I dont think there is Guru- Chandala Yoga eventhough by look there is a combination of Guru and Rahu in Makara Rashi.Vakra Guru will be chasing Rahu till 12th of October and he becomes direct on 13th October.On 13th of October,Guru in Makara Rashi will be in Shravana Nakshatra ruled by Lord Vishnu.So Guru will be in the form of Shri Hari Hara.If we see the Navamsha of Guru,He will be in Uccha Navamsha on 12th but Vakra and is direct on 13th October and I am sure there is a big difference between the Vakra Guru in Kataka Navamsha and direct motion Guru in Kataka Navamsha.You and other members of this list can check the event which may happen in 12th and 13th October.They will be completely different.From 13th onwards till Guru in the Navamsha moved to Simha,there will be some very good spiritual event will take place which was supposed to take place before 13th.If Guru is in the clutches of Rahu ie., if both Guru and Rahu are in the same Navamsha or if Guru is having a lesser longitude than Rahu, then we can say there is a Guru-Chandala Yoga.I strictly follow longitudes for any kind of such Yogas.Just observe for few days,the events. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Sohamsa List, There is a Guru Chandala in the skies. During such times, the works of the Rishis come under attack. For those students of astrology disturbed and confused by certain mails on the list, please read the Preface written by Sanjay Rath in his book, Jaimini Maharishi’s Upadesha Sutras. This should dispel doubts on his approach. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications. com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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